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==Should each war paint on this page also mention what grade it is?== | ==Should each war paint on this page also mention what grade it is?== | ||
They are sorted by case, but there is no easy to look at place that will tell the users what grade each paint comes in. The item grades are important, determining rarity and price in the trading community, and even in-game, it affects which ones are compatible for use in a Mann Co. Trade Up. Also, I am brand new to wiki editing, and this is my first time using a talk page. Please tell me whether I am actually doing this correctly or just making a mess here. --[[User:Dork Sauls 4|Dork Sauls 4]] ([[User talk:Dork Sauls 4|talk]]) 05:15, 9 January 2019 (UTC) | They are sorted by case, but there is no easy to look at place that will tell the users what grade each paint comes in. The item grades are important, determining rarity and price in the trading community, and even in-game, it affects which ones are compatible for use in a Mann Co. Trade Up. Also, I am brand new to wiki editing, and this is my first time using a talk page. Please tell me whether I am actually doing this correctly or just making a mess here. --[[User:Dork Sauls 4|Dork Sauls 4]] ([[User talk:Dork Sauls 4|talk]]) 05:15, 9 January 2019 (UTC) | ||
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+ | : Hmmm, I don't know much about War Paints and Grades. Does each War Paint have one grade? Then maybe the names in the galleries can be color-coded by grade, thus: | ||
+ | <gallery> | ||
+ | File:Backpack War Paint Anodized Aloha.png|{{tf2b|1=<span style="background:#2a2725; text-shadow:2px 1px 1px #24201B; text-align:center;"><small>Anodized Aloha</small></span>|color=#4B69FF}} | ||
+ | File:Backpack War Paint Yeti Coated.png|{{tf2b|1=<span style="background:#2a2725; text-shadow:2px 1px 1px #24201B; text-align:center;"><small>Yeti Coated</small></span>|color=#D32CE6}} | ||
+ | </gallery> | ||
+ | : Some templating could be done to simplify the formatting, maybe a derivative of Template:tf2b. | ||
+ | : Could also include <nowiki>{{Template:Decorated grade table}}</nowiki>. | ||
+ | : [[User:Mikado282|<span style="font-family: Impact"><font color="70B04A">'''M I K A D O 282'''</font></span><span style="font-family: Arial "><font color="70B04A">''' oOOOOo oo oo '''</font></span>]] ([[User_talk:Mikado282|'''''talk''''']]) ([[User:Mikado282/Help Wanted!|'''''Help Wanted!''''']]) 03:07, 12 January 2019 (UTC) | ||
+ | ::Maybe add <nowiki>"<br>(Mercenary)", "<br>(Elite)"</nowiki> etc after the names? - [[User:BrazilianNut|BrazilianNut]] ([[User talk:BrazilianNut|talk]]) 20:12, 25 December 2019 (UTC) | ||
+ | |||
+ | == Rename the images for the Winter 2019 Collection? == | ||
+ | |||
+ | Up until the Scream Fortress X Collection, backpack icon images for the War Paints have been named like "Backpack War Paint [paint name]", but, for a reason unknown to me, the Winter 2019 Collection paints were named like "Backpack [paint name] War Paint Factory New". | ||
+ | |||
+ | While this does not affect the article in any way, shape or form (except for this one translation where they had it ready for when the images were uploaded by following the conventional naming format, only to have them be named in a different one, though that has already been fixed), it does feel kind of weird to have<br> | ||
+ | <small> | ||
+ | File:Backpack War Paint [paint name].png<br> | ||
+ | File:Backpack War Paint [paint name].png<br> | ||
+ | File:Backpack War Paint [paint name].png<br> | ||
+ | File:Backpack War Paint [paint name].png<br> | ||
+ | File:Backpack [paint name] War Paint Factory New.png<br> | ||
+ | File:Backpack [paint name] War Paint Factory New.png<br> | ||
+ | File:Backpack [paint name] War Paint Factory New.png<br> | ||
+ | File:Backpack [paint name] War Paint Factory New.png<br> | ||
+ | </small> | ||
+ | |||
+ | Opinions? - [[User:BrazilianNut|BrazilianNut]] ([[User talk:BrazilianNut|talk]]) 14:26, 24 December 2019 (UTC) | ||
+ | |||
+ | : I'll reupload the old ones later this week. No worries. — [[User:Tark|<span style="font-weight:bold;color: #5BC236">Tark</span>]] [[Help:Group rights#Moderators|<span class="locbg">lm</span>]][[Help:Language_translation|<span class="locbg">(pt-br)</span>]] 15:01, 24 December 2019 (UTC) | ||
+ | :: Actually, scrap that. I'll just redirect "{{code|Backpack War Paint [paintkit]}}" to "{{code|Backpack [paintkit] War Paint Factory New}}", it's easier. | ||
+ | :: Just for the record, the naming convention for decorated items is "{{code|[paintkit] [item] [wear]}}". — [[User:Tark|<span style="font-weight:bold;color: #5BC236">Tark</span>]] [[Help:Group rights#Moderators|<span class="locbg">lm</span>]][[Help:Language_translation|<span class="locbg">(pt-br)</span>]] 20:07, 24 December 2019 (UTC) | ||
+ | |||
+ | == About the application of new template == | ||
+ | |||
+ | While I personally love the new design and appreciate the nice work, there are Chinese visitors who would like to use the page to search the English names by corresponding Chinese names. | ||
+ | |||
+ | To meet their needs, I used to put the names together like this: | ||
+ | <gallery> | ||
+ | File:Backpack War Paint Anodized Aloha.png|椰林风光<br />Anodized Aloha | ||
+ | </gallery> | ||
+ | |||
+ | I wonnder if there could be a solution for it. If it's not possible, perhaps I could add another section on the Chinese page for the searching? | ||
+ | [[File:User Dereko Name.png|100px|link=User:Dereko]] 16:19, 18 March 2020 (UTC) | ||
+ | |||
+ | :[https://wiki.teamfortress.com/w/index.php?title=Template:War_Paint_Gallery&diff=2738975&oldid=2735691 Done]. =) | ||
+ | :- [[User:BrazilianNut|BrazilianNut]] ([[User talk:BrazilianNut|talk]]) 20:29, 18 March 2020 (UTC) | ||
+ | |||
+ | {{Quotation|'''Dereko''' is thanking '''BrazilianNut''' for effiectness and kindness.<br />[[File:User Dereko Name.png|100px|link=User:Dereko]] 05:04, 19 March 2020 (UTC)|Amazing, kamerad!}} | ||
+ | |||
+ | == Hard to identify grades == | ||
+ | |||
+ | I apologize to whoever came up with this article's current design for the paints' names and grades, but it's not good; having the grade be limited to a thin line makes it hard to differentiate some grades, like Civilian and Freelance, and Mercenary and Commando. | ||
+ | |||
+ | The same happens with the style adopted in update pages; it makes it hard to both read the paints' names and differentiate Mercenary and Commando grades. | ||
+ | |||
+ | Here are some comparisons along with my suggestion. | ||
+ | |||
+ | This is how it is in this article: | ||
+ | <div class="warpaint item-grade commando">{{Decorated name|kill covered}}{{lang|en=|zh-hans=<br>(Kill Covered)}}</div> | ||
+ | <div class="warpaint item-grade mercenary">{{Decorated name|bloom buffed}}{{lang|en=|zh-hans=<br>(Bloom Buffed)}}</div> | ||
+ | While easy to read at a distance, it can be hard to tell the grades. | ||
+ | |||
+ | This is how it is in articles for updates: | ||
+ | <div style="display:inline-block; padding:0px 3px; font-weight:bold; border-radius:4px; color:#8847FF;background:#24201B;">{{Decorated name|Kill Covered}}</div> | ||
+ | <div style="display:inline-block; padding:0px 3px; font-weight:bold; border-radius:4px; color:#4B69FF;background:#24201B;">{{Decorated name|Bloom Buffed}}</div> | ||
+ | There is little contrast between the text and the background, making it hard to both read at a distance and to differentiate grades in galleries. | ||
+ | |||
+ | This is my suggestion: | ||
+ | <div style="display:inline-block; padding:0px 3px; font-weight:bold; border-radius:4px; color:#F9F9F9;background:#8847FF;">{{Decorated name|Kill Covered}}</div> | ||
+ | <div style="display:inline-block; padding:0px 3px; font-weight:bold; border-radius:4px; color:#F9F9F9;background:#4B69FF;">{{Decorated name|Bloom Buffed}}</div> | ||
+ | <div style="display:inline-block; padding:0px 3px; font-weight:bold; border-radius:4px; color:#F9F9F9;background:#5E98D9;">{{Decorated name|plaid potshotter mk.ii}}</div> | ||
+ | <div style="display:inline-block; padding:0px 3px; font-weight:bold; border-radius:4px; color:#F9F9F9;background:#B0C3D9;">{{Decorated name|civil servant mk.ii}}</div> | ||
+ | The Strong contrast makes it easy to read at a distance, and the predominance of the grade's color makes identifying the grade a breeze. | ||
+ | |||
+ | Opinions? - [[User:BrazilianNut|BrazilianNut]] ([[User talk:BrazilianNut|talk]]) 14:06, 8 October 2020 (UTC) | ||
+ | |||
+ | : Dereko prefers your new design as it provides more space for distinguishing color. [[File:User Dereko Name.png|100px|link=User:Dereko]] 07:49, 9 October 2020 (UTC) | ||
+ | |||
+ | == Dereko requests help with bug confirmation == | ||
+ | The case mentioned in the [https://wiki.teamfortress.com/w/index.php?title=War_Paint&type=revision&diff=3048460&oldid=3047905 latest edit] under the "Bugs" section doesn't seem to happen in my backpack, may I ask someone else to have it confirmed? | ||
+ | [[File:User Dereko Name.png|100px|link=User:Dereko]] 12:25, 12 October 2021 (UTC) | ||
+ | :I recall this happening to me, however, it seems like this doesn't happen anymore. Burden of proof lies on the editor adding it, not the people reviewing it. I can't get it to trigger anymore when it happened every other inspect for me.<br>[[User:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">GrampaSwood</font>]] ([[User talk:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) 12:37, 12 October 2021 (UTC) | ||
+ | |||
+ | == Ubercharge texture bug? == | ||
+ | |||
+ | Does the bug with the Ubercharges still happen? Personally I have War Paints for every class and I have not ever encountered this bug once. And, looking at the update history, there's actually a patch that specifically says there was a fix for conflicts with ''Ubercharge''. Can anyone verify this bug is still happening for people?--[[User:ShadowMan44|ShadowMan44]] ([[User talk:ShadowMan44|talk]]) 22:46, 30 May 2024 (UTC) | ||
+ | :Don't recall it, was added w/o any proof https://wiki.teamfortress.com/w/index.php?title=War_Paint&diff=2360915&oldid=2359273 by an editor who did like 20 bug edits in 1 day then dipped so doubt we can follow up with them either to see if it's a texture related setting or sumthin. However, the github issue for this is still open (#2531), left a response to maybe reach more people for comment. [[User:Jh34ghu43gu|Jh34ghu43gu]] ([[User talk:Jh34ghu43gu|talk]]) 00:56, 24 June 2024 (UTC) | ||
+ | |||
+ | == Trivia section? == | ||
+ | |||
+ | Considering that there are some War Paints like Neo Tokyo (Akira), Skull Study (JoJo's Bizarre Adventure), Cabin Fevered (The Shining) or Jazzy ("Jazz"), I feel like it'd be appropriate to have a trivia section much the same way the [[Unusual]] page has. Of course keeping in mind about the guidelines and everything.--[[User:ShadowMan44|ShadowMan44]] ([[User talk:ShadowMan44|talk]]) 22:50, 4 September 2024 (UTC) |
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Should each war paint on this page also mention what grade it is?
They are sorted by case, but there is no easy to look at place that will tell the users what grade each paint comes in. The item grades are important, determining rarity and price in the trading community, and even in-game, it affects which ones are compatible for use in a Mann Co. Trade Up. Also, I am brand new to wiki editing, and this is my first time using a talk page. Please tell me whether I am actually doing this correctly or just making a mess here. --Dork Sauls 4 (talk) 05:15, 9 January 2019 (UTC)
- Hmmm, I don't know much about War Paints and Grades. Does each War Paint have one grade? Then maybe the names in the galleries can be color-coded by grade, thus:
- Backpack War Paint Anodized Aloha.png
Anodized Aloha
- Backpack War Paint Yeti Coated.png
Yeti Coated
- Some templating could be done to simplify the formatting, maybe a derivative of Template:tf2b.
- Could also include {{Template:Decorated grade table}}.
- M I K A D O 282 oOOOOo oo oo (talk) (Help Wanted!) 03:07, 12 January 2019 (UTC)
- Maybe add "<br>(Mercenary)", "<br>(Elite)" etc after the names? - BrazilianNut (talk) 20:12, 25 December 2019 (UTC)
Rename the images for the Winter 2019 Collection?
Up until the Scream Fortress X Collection, backpack icon images for the War Paints have been named like "Backpack War Paint [paint name]", but, for a reason unknown to me, the Winter 2019 Collection paints were named like "Backpack [paint name] War Paint Factory New".
While this does not affect the article in any way, shape or form (except for this one translation where they had it ready for when the images were uploaded by following the conventional naming format, only to have them be named in a different one, though that has already been fixed), it does feel kind of weird to have
File:Backpack War Paint [paint name].png
File:Backpack War Paint [paint name].png
File:Backpack War Paint [paint name].png
File:Backpack War Paint [paint name].png
File:Backpack [paint name] War Paint Factory New.png
File:Backpack [paint name] War Paint Factory New.png
File:Backpack [paint name] War Paint Factory New.png
File:Backpack [paint name] War Paint Factory New.png
Opinions? - BrazilianNut (talk) 14:26, 24 December 2019 (UTC)
- I'll reupload the old ones later this week. No worries. — Tark lm(pt-br) 15:01, 24 December 2019 (UTC)
About the application of new template
While I personally love the new design and appreciate the nice work, there are Chinese visitors who would like to use the page to search the English names by corresponding Chinese names.
To meet their needs, I used to put the names together like this:
- Backpack War Paint Anodized Aloha.png
椰林风光
Anodized Aloha
I wonnder if there could be a solution for it. If it's not possible, perhaps I could add another section on the Chinese page for the searching? 16:19, 18 March 2020 (UTC)
- Done. =)
- - BrazilianNut (talk) 20:29, 18 March 2020 (UTC)
“ | ” |
Hard to identify grades
I apologize to whoever came up with this article's current design for the paints' names and grades, but it's not good; having the grade be limited to a thin line makes it hard to differentiate some grades, like Civilian and Freelance, and Mercenary and Commando.
The same happens with the style adopted in update pages; it makes it hard to both read the paints' names and differentiate Mercenary and Commando grades.
Here are some comparisons along with my suggestion.
This is how it is in this article:
While easy to read at a distance, it can be hard to tell the grades.
This is how it is in articles for updates:
There is little contrast between the text and the background, making it hard to both read at a distance and to differentiate grades in galleries.
This is my suggestion:
The Strong contrast makes it easy to read at a distance, and the predominance of the grade's color makes identifying the grade a breeze.
Opinions? - BrazilianNut (talk) 14:06, 8 October 2020 (UTC)
- Dereko prefers your new design as it provides more space for distinguishing color. 07:49, 9 October 2020 (UTC)
Dereko requests help with bug confirmation
The case mentioned in the latest edit under the "Bugs" section doesn't seem to happen in my backpack, may I ask someone else to have it confirmed? 12:25, 12 October 2021 (UTC)
- I recall this happening to me, however, it seems like this doesn't happen anymore. Burden of proof lies on the editor adding it, not the people reviewing it. I can't get it to trigger anymore when it happened every other inspect for me.
GrampaSwood (talk) 12:37, 12 October 2021 (UTC)
Ubercharge texture bug?
Does the bug with the Ubercharges still happen? Personally I have War Paints for every class and I have not ever encountered this bug once. And, looking at the update history, there's actually a patch that specifically says there was a fix for conflicts with Ubercharge. Can anyone verify this bug is still happening for people?--ShadowMan44 (talk) 22:46, 30 May 2024 (UTC)
- Don't recall it, was added w/o any proof https://wiki.teamfortress.com/w/index.php?title=War_Paint&diff=2360915&oldid=2359273 by an editor who did like 20 bug edits in 1 day then dipped so doubt we can follow up with them either to see if it's a texture related setting or sumthin. However, the github issue for this is still open (#2531), left a response to maybe reach more people for comment. Jh34ghu43gu (talk) 00:56, 24 June 2024 (UTC)
Trivia section?
Considering that there are some War Paints like Neo Tokyo (Akira), Skull Study (JoJo's Bizarre Adventure), Cabin Fevered (The Shining) or Jazzy ("Jazz"), I feel like it'd be appropriate to have a trivia section much the same way the Unusual page has. Of course keeping in mind about the guidelines and everything.--ShadowMan44 (talk) 22:50, 4 September 2024 (UTC)