Template talk:StoryTimeline

November 28, 2014 edits

• Unknown year - April 14th : The third machine was made after the second … and remove speculation
• 1971 – December : Grammar
• 1972 - March  : Grammar, readability, and correctness
• 1972 – September 7th : “most” not “half”
• 1972 – September 7th : spelling and structure

Don’t have time to figure out what is missing in 1972 – September 8th , link is to A Cold Day in Hell, but we don’t have precise day dates for events therein.

Mikado282 (talk) 18:21, 28 November 2014 (PST)

TF Comics items

(I actually had this typed up before Le's edits) For months now, I have been thinking about a major refactoring of the Template:StoryTimeline. There are multiple issues with the items that were added on the release of the last few TF Comics. As this is a heavily translated article with translation switching, so I feel some coordination is needed before I make changes that will greatly reduce the content and possibly remove, add, or change the dates.

I may commit to these actions some time after I have completed the Halloween revisions. Mikado282 (talk) 06:01, 11 July 2017 (PDT)

1972 Content

In the edits from the last few Comics, content was added far in excess of that appropriate for the Timeline style. Sometime in the last two years, there was a sudden departure from the Timeline style as some editors started writing Comic synopses. There is no need to duplicate the effort of synopses of any Comic article here. The point of a timeline is only to list the relative timing of events, not to describe the events. {{Main| }} links to the relevant Comic synopses should replace the excessive synopses in this Template.

• "1971 - that evening/night" has much that is unnecessary for a timeline, should not be much more than "The ghosts of Redmond and Blutarch Mann enlist the final services of their mercenaries, each to carry the other's body to Hell.
• Much of "1972 - "at least six hours" later" could be replaced with not much more than "The TF2 team, supported by Saxton, Mags, and Jerry, defeat the TFC mercenaries." Mikado282 (talk) 06:01, 11 July 2017 (PDT)

1972 Dating

The overly-thought dates in the template surrounding September 7 of 1972 are in error, that is, they are overly precise and are not consistent with the context. Assuming absence of blatant continuity error, the 9 7 72 date of the mugshots should not be assumed to be the date of the trial or even the date of the newspaper edition. Neither is that mugshot date the date of the arrest, as Scout's arms needed a month or two to heal enough to remove the casts, placing the date of the bank vault arrest weeks if not months before September 7. Rather, the mugshot date only establishes a maximum 10 month range to contain the dates of both the arrest and the trial: March 1972 to January 1973. A trial date in or about November is suggested in the TF2 Comics:

• Christmas decorations are seen in the veterinarian's office, Sniper's family home, and Heavy's family home (here, too).
• Lasting snow cover does not settle into the Dzhugdzhur Mountains until early November, suggesting the first day of November, December, or January (at the very latest) as the likely dates for Heavy's visit to the store and, by extension, the date of Miss Pauling getting the band back together . (A colleague at the office actually grew up northwest of Dzhugdzhur). Until the next Comic, a date of "Early Winter" should suffice. Mikado282 (talk) 06:01, 11 July 2017 (PDT) 12:25, 21 August 2019 (UTC)

August 25, 2019 edit

Dang, been at this 5 years.

• Made additional timeline divisions (Gravel War/Robot War/Australium Chase)
• The overly detailed (and conflicting) March/September 1972 dates made certain assumptions about the 9 7 72 date on the mugshots.
  • It is speculation to use the date of the mugshots for anything other than to presume the trial is sometime after that date.
  • The symbols Trial at Teufort and Takeover are defined only in the broadest of terms, and the reminder of dates in that year are only stated in the relative terms expressed in the Comics, e.g., "two weeks later", "six hours".

• The presumed style for the timeline is simple statements of events.
  • In the last few years, eager editors have written unnecessary synopses, these have been refactored to the original timeline style.
  • In particular synopsis details not relevant to salient storyline development were removed.
• Details of the library birth records needed clarification/correction.

• Translations:
  • Where the dates were modified, I deleted the translations.
  • Where I corrected the style, I left the translations alone but will tag the template for translation update.

M I K A D O 282 oOOOOo oo oo (talk) (Help Wanted!) 19:08, 25 August 2019 (UTC)