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The '''Engineer''' (oftentimes shortened to "'''engy'''", "'''engie'''", "'''engi'''", or "'''engee'''") is a situational [[Standard competitive lineup#Utility|utility]] class sometimes used in the [[standard competitive lineup]], valued for his defensive support and area denial capabilities.
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The '''Engineer''' (oftentimes shortened to "'''engy'''", "'''engie'''", "'''engi'''", or mispelled to "'''engine'''") is a situational [[Standard competitive lineup#Utility|utility]] class sometimes used in the [[standard competitive lineup]], valued for his defensive support and area denial capabilities.
  
 
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== Usage ==
 
== Usage ==
The dynamic gameplay of competitive Team Fortress 2 on 5-CP maps makes the Engineer, with his need for time to set up his buildings and slow move speed less than useful. On the flip side of things, Engineers' usefulness increases dramatically on attack/defend maps such as [[Gravel Pit]], due to his Sentry Gun's ability to counter the opposing team's [[Scout (competitive)|Scouts]]. Because the enemy team's two [[Soldier (competitive)|Soldiers]] and [[Demoman (competitive)|Demomen]] are very capable of destroying an Engineer's buildings, Sentry Guns are usually considered temporary measures to stall an enemy team. Using a Sentry to aid a defense is very useful for buying time, which is essential for defenders on maps played in the Stopwatch format.
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The dynamic gameplay of competitive Team Fortress 2 on 5-CP maps makes the Engineer, with his need for time to set up his buildings and slow move speed less than useful. On the flip side of things, Engineers' usefulness increases dramatically on Attack/Defend maps such as [[Gravel Pit (competitive)|Gravel Pit]], due to his [[Sentry Gun]]'s ability to counter the opposing team's [[Scout (competitive)|Scouts]]. Because the enemy team's two [[Soldier (competitive)|Soldiers]] and single [[Demoman (competitive)|Demoman]] are very capable of destroying an Engineer's buildings, Sentry Guns are usually considered temporary measures to stall an enemy team. Using a Sentry Gun to aid a defense is very useful for buying time, which is essential for defenders on maps played in the [[Standard competitive format#Stopwatch|Stopwatch]] format.
  
 
=== Common Tactics ===
 
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The Dispenser is also important, not only does it allow players to quickly and easily replenish used ammo, the Medic can also hide within the Dispenser if a Scout attacks. Though this might not get rid of the damage completely, it will reduce it and give the Medic's team mates longer to kill the intruder.
 
The Dispenser is also important, not only does it allow players to quickly and easily replenish used ammo, the Medic can also hide within the Dispenser if a Scout attacks. Though this might not get rid of the damage completely, it will reduce it and give the Medic's team mates longer to kill the intruder.
  
=== 5-CP Push Strategies ===
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=== Standard Control Point Push Strategies ===
When Engineers are used in 5-CP matches, they are usually used to defend the final point of 5-CP maps, preventing back-capping by Scouts, as well as stalling the enemy Soldiers. The main idea behind using a Sentry Gun is that the enemy team will have to focus on killing it before they can attack anything else, this can give you the time to build up an Ubercharge and push against the enemy now that they have used their Ubercharge.
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When Engineers are used in Control Point matches, they are usually used to defend the final point within the teams' base, preventing back-capping by Scouts, as well as stalling the enemy Soldiers and Demoman. The main idea behind using a Sentry Gun is that the enemy team will have to focus on killing it before they can attack anything else, this can give the Medic time to build up an Ubercharge and push forward.
  
An aware enemy Demoman, however, will easily dispatch the Engineer's Sentry Gun with sticky bombs on most maps, meaning that the Engineer will need a great deal of support from his team simply to keep his Sentry up. Outside of the last point, Engineers rarely see play, due to his [[Building]]s' slow haul speed and the need to keep up with the rest of the team.
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An aware enemy Demoman, however, will easily dispatch the Engineer's Sentry Gun with relative ease using either the [[Grenade Launcher]] or [[Stickybomb Launcher]]. Outside of the last point, Engineers rarely see play, due to his [[Building]]s' slow haul speed and the need to keep up with the rest of the team.
  
=== Attack-Defend Strategies ===
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=== Attack/Defend Strategies ===
 
One of the most significant uses of the Engineer in competitive play is on Attack/Defend maps. [[Setup time]] allows the Engineer to build his base up without being harassed by the enemy team. This makes starting off the map with one Engineer a popular choice for defending teams. Because competitive Attack/Defend maps are played with the Stopwatch format, Engineers will want their Sentry Guns to stall the enemy team for as long as possible. While it is important to actively participate in the defense of [[Control Point (Objective)|control point]]s, a level 3 Sentry Gun is not as disposable as it is in other game-types, due to its effectiveness against enemy Scouts. Thus, it is important to keep a Sentry up for as long as possible, providing a safe zone where teammates need not fear attack from enemy Scouts.
 
One of the most significant uses of the Engineer in competitive play is on Attack/Defend maps. [[Setup time]] allows the Engineer to build his base up without being harassed by the enemy team. This makes starting off the map with one Engineer a popular choice for defending teams. Because competitive Attack/Defend maps are played with the Stopwatch format, Engineers will want their Sentry Guns to stall the enemy team for as long as possible. While it is important to actively participate in the defense of [[Control Point (Objective)|control point]]s, a level 3 Sentry Gun is not as disposable as it is in other game-types, due to its effectiveness against enemy Scouts. Thus, it is important to keep a Sentry up for as long as possible, providing a safe zone where teammates need not fear attack from enemy Scouts.
  
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=== 6 vs 6 strategies ===
 
=== 6 vs 6 strategies ===
When playing Engineer in 6 vs 6 play it is best to play when defending the last point. In 6 vs 6 last it is common that a [[Scout (competitive)|Scout]] switches to a class that is good at defending points such as the Engineer. A good strategy to do is use the [[Gunslinger]]. You can use the Combat Mini-Sentry to distract enemy players from attacking your teammates. When using a level 3 Sentry Gun it is good to put it in a sneaky position so the enemy doesn't find it and destroy it.
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When playing Engineer in 6 vs 6 play it is best to play when contesting your team's last point. In this format, it is common that a [[Scout (competitive)|Scout]] switches to a class that is good at defending points such as the Engineer. A good strategy to do is use the [[Gunslinger]] for a quick building, disposable Sentry. When using a level 3 Sentry Gun, it is best to hide it in a position out of your enemies' line of sight.
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== See also ==
 
* [[Engineer weapons (competitive)]]
 
* [[Engineer weapons (competitive)]]
 
* [[Buildings (competitive)]]
 
* [[Buildings (competitive)]]

Revision as of 04:05, 6 April 2013

Engineer.png
This article is for competitive play, based on the standard community competitive format. For the generic article on this topic, see: Engineer.
The community competitive scene changes frequently. Some or all info may be outdated.

The Engineer (oftentimes shortened to "engy", "engie", "engi", or mispelled to "engine") is a situational utility class sometimes used in the standard competitive lineup, valued for his defensive support and area denial capabilities.

Information

Health

Class Health Overheal Quick-Fix Overheal
Leaderboard class scout.png Scout 125 185 158
With the Sandman equipped 110 165 139
Leaderboard class soldier.png Soldier 200 300 251
With the Battalion's Backup equipped 220 330 276
Leaderboard class pyro.png Pyro 175 260 220
Leaderboard class demoman.png Demoman 175 260 220
With weapon slot boots equipped 200 300 251
With a head-taking melee weapon equipped with 0 heads 150 225 189
With a head-taking melee weapon equipped with 1 head 165 245 208
With a head-taking melee weapon equipped with 2 heads 180 270 226
With a head-taking melee weapon equipped with 3 heads 195 290 245
With a head-taking melee weapon with 4 or more heads 210 315 264
With weapon slot boots and a head-taking melee weapon equipped with 0 heads 175 260 220
With weapon slot boots and a head-taking melee weapon equipped with 1 head 190 285 239
With weapon slot boots and a head-taking melee weapon equipped with 2 heads 205 305 258
With weapon slot boots and a head-taking melee weapon equipped with 3 heads 220 330 276
With weapon slot boots and a head-taking melee weapon equipped with 4 or more heads 235 350 295
Leaderboard class heavy.png Heavy 300 450 376
Under the effects of the Dalokohs Bar or Fishcake 350 500 426
With the Fists of Steel equipped 300 390 346
With the Fists of Steel equipped and while under the effects of the Dalokohs Bar or Fishcake 350 440 396
Leaderboard class engineer.png Engineer 125 185 158
With the Gunslinger equipped 150 225 189
Leaderboard class medic.png Medic 150 225 189
With the Vita-Saw equipped 140 210 176
Leaderboard class sniper.png Sniper 125 185 158
Leaderboard class spy.png Spy 125 185 158
With the Big Earner equipped 100 150 126
With Conniver's Kunai equipped 70 105 89
Maximum overheal from Conniver's Kunai backstabs N/A 210 N/A

Theoretical value. Overheal does not exceed 150% of the classes' maximum health.

Speed

Condition Normal Backward Crouched Swimming
Leaderboard class engineer.png Engineer
100 %
90 %
33 %
80 %
Hauling a building
90 %
81 %
30 %
72 %

Weapons

Main article: Engineer weapons (competitive)

The Engineer uses his PDA Build and Destroy tools to construct buildings to help his team. He uses his melee Wrenches to upgrade, repair, and re-stock them.

Weapon Notes / Special abilities
PDA Build
Standard
Primary PDA

Construction PDA

Pictogram info.png Allows the player to place the Sentry Gun, Dispenser, and both Teleporters in the world.

PDA Destroy
Standard
Secondary PDA

Destruction PDA

Pictogram info.png Allows the player to destroy his Sentry Gun, Dispenser, and both Teleporters.

Melee

Note that all the Engineer's melee weapons are capable of building, repairing and upgrading buildings, as well as removing Sappers.

Weapon Kill icon Ammo
Loaded
Ammo
Carried
Damage Range Notes / Special Abilities
Wrench
Stock
Wrench
Killicon wrench.png N/A N/A Base: 65

Crit: 195

Necro Smasher
Unlock
Necro Smasher
Killicon necro smasher.png
Prinny Machete
Promotional
Prinny Machete
Killicon prinny machete.png
Golden Wrench
Distributed
Golden Wrench
Killicon golden wrench.png Limited item from the Engineer Update.

Pictogram info.png Killed enemies freeze into solid Australium statues (purely cosmetic feature).

Saxxy
Distributed
Saxxy
Killicon saxxy.png Limited item from the Replay Update.

Pictogram info.png Killed enemies freeze into solid Australium statues (purely cosmetic feature).

Golden Frying Pan
Distributed
Golden Frying Pan
Killicon golden frying pan.png Limited item from the Two Cities Update.

Pictogram info.png Killed enemies freeze into solid Australium statues (purely cosmetic feature).

Gunslinger
Unlock
Gunslinger
Killicon gunslinger.png N/A N/A Base: 65

Crit: 195

Pictogram info.png Replaces standard Sentry Gun with Combat Mini-Sentry Gun.
Compared to a level one Sentry:
Pictogram plus.png Build speed increased by 150%.
Pictogram plus.png Metal cost is reduced by 23% (total cost of 100 metal).
Pictogram plus.png +35% faster rotation.
Pictogram plus.png +50% faster firing speed.
Pictogram minus.png -33% health.
Pictogram minus.png -50% damage.
Pictogram info.png For more information, go here.

Pictogram plus.png Increases maximum health by 25 points.
Pictogram plus.png Guarantees a Critical hit on a third consecutive punch.
Pictogram minus.png No random Critical hits.

Killicon gunslinger triple punch.png
Southern Hospitality
Craft
Southern Hospitality
Killicon southern hospitality.png N/A N/A Base: 65

Crit: 195

Bleeding:

8 / sec. × 5 secs.
Pictogram plus.png On hit: causes opponent to bleed for 5 seconds.

Pictogram minus.png +20% fire vulnerability.
Pictogram minus.png No random Critical hits.

Jag
Craft
Jag
Killicon jag.png N/A N/A Base: 49

Crit: 146

Pictogram plus.png Construction hit speed boost increased by 30%.

Pictogram plus.png +15% faster firing speed.
Pictogram minus.png -20% slower repair rate.
Pictogram minus.png –25% damage penalty.
Pictogram minus.png –33% damage penalty vs buildings.

Eureka Effect
Craft
Eureka Effect
Killicon eureka effect.png N/A N/A Base: 65

Crit: 195

Pictogram plus.png Press reload key to either teleport to your spawn area or teleporter exit.

Pictogram plus.png -50% metal cost when constructing or upgrading teleporters.
Pictogram minus.png Construction hit speed boost decreased by 50%.
Pictogram minus.png 20% less metal from Dispensers and Pickups.

Buildings

Main article: Buildings (competitive)
Building Stats Functions Special
Sentry Gun
RED Level 3 Sentry Gun.png
Build Time: 10s
Metal Cost: 130
Scrap Return: 60
Fires bullets at 4|8|8 per second for 16 damage each (Mini-Crit 22).
Rocket packs fire once per 5 sec for ~100 damage (Mini-Crit ~135).
Holds 100|120|145 bullets and 0|0|20 rocket packs.
Can Mini-Crit if target is Jarate'd or Engineer is Banner Buffed.
Can hit its owner if he gets in line of fire.
Combat Mini-Sentry
Red Mini Sentry.png
Build Time: 2.5s
Metal Cost: 100
Scrap Return: 28
Fires bullets at 4 per second for 8 damage each (Mini-Crit 11). Can Mini-Crit if target is Jarate'd or Engineer is Banner Buffed.
Can hit its owner if he gets in line of fire.
Cannot be repaired or upgraded, but can be reloaded.
Dispenser
Lvl2dispenser.png
Build Time: 20s
Metal Cost: 100
Scrap Return: 50
Heals for 10|15|20 health per second.
Dispenses 20|30|40 ammo per second.
Stocks 40|50|60 Metal every 5s, holding up to 400 Metal.
Dispenses to disguised enemy Spies (even cloaked ones).
Teleporter
Telespin.png
Build Time: 20s
Metal Cost: 125
Scrap Return: 60
Provides one teleport every 10|5|3 seconds. Can be upgraded from either side, but destroying either side resets level to 1.
Sappers are placed and applied to both simultaneously.
Can be taken by enemy Spies (which can telefrag).

Damages and times are approximate and determined by community testing.

Usage

The dynamic gameplay of competitive Team Fortress 2 on 5-CP maps makes the Engineer, with his need for time to set up his buildings and slow move speed less than useful. On the flip side of things, Engineers' usefulness increases dramatically on Attack/Defend maps such as Gravel Pit, due to his Sentry Gun's ability to counter the opposing team's Scouts. Because the enemy team's two Soldiers and single Demoman are very capable of destroying an Engineer's buildings, Sentry Guns are usually considered temporary measures to stall an enemy team. Using a Sentry Gun to aid a defense is very useful for buying time, which is essential for defenders on maps played in the Stopwatch format.

Common Tactics

When building their Sentry Guns, Engineers must keep in mind the fact that they are mainly building it to ward off jumping Soldiers or Demomen and to take the brunt of the enemy Ubercharge. An aware Soldier or Demoman will have little trouble destroying buildings. Sentry Guns should be placed in a location relatively safe from pipes and rockets spammed from afar, but useful against any enemies who try to flank or try to capture the point.

Engineers need to keep a look out for Spies who can easily destroy their buildings. The Teleporter is an important building, it negates part of the defending teams longer respawn time by allowing them to quickly get to the point and defend it, without it, each loss that the defending team takes is harder to replace and weakens their grip on the point.

The Dispenser is also important, not only does it allow players to quickly and easily replenish used ammo, the Medic can also hide within the Dispenser if a Scout attacks. Though this might not get rid of the damage completely, it will reduce it and give the Medic's team mates longer to kill the intruder.

Standard Control Point Push Strategies

When Engineers are used in Control Point matches, they are usually used to defend the final point within the teams' base, preventing back-capping by Scouts, as well as stalling the enemy Soldiers and Demoman. The main idea behind using a Sentry Gun is that the enemy team will have to focus on killing it before they can attack anything else, this can give the Medic time to build up an Ubercharge and push forward.

An aware enemy Demoman, however, will easily dispatch the Engineer's Sentry Gun with relative ease using either the Grenade Launcher or Stickybomb Launcher. Outside of the last point, Engineers rarely see play, due to his Buildings' slow haul speed and the need to keep up with the rest of the team.

Attack/Defend Strategies

One of the most significant uses of the Engineer in competitive play is on Attack/Defend maps. Setup time allows the Engineer to build his base up without being harassed by the enemy team. This makes starting off the map with one Engineer a popular choice for defending teams. Because competitive Attack/Defend maps are played with the Stopwatch format, Engineers will want their Sentry Guns to stall the enemy team for as long as possible. While it is important to actively participate in the defense of control points, a level 3 Sentry Gun is not as disposable as it is in other game-types, due to its effectiveness against enemy Scouts. Thus, it is important to keep a Sentry up for as long as possible, providing a safe zone where teammates need not fear attack from enemy Scouts.

Capture the Flag Strategies

In a Capture-the-flag game, Scouts are valuable, as they are able to pick up the intelligence and run off unharmed. They are fast and agile enough to avoid prolonged combat with their enemies, and for this reason, a team will generally need to be able to counter any attack on the Intelligence by Scouts. The Engineer is thus used at the beginning of most Capture-the-flag games, and sent to their teams' Intelligence room to build. The large distance between the Intelligence room and the enemy's spawn room gives the Engineer time to set up a base and stall an enemy attack on the intelligence with a level 3 Sentry Gun. The Sentry is effective against incoming Scouts, and, with enough support, can become the cornerstone of a successful defense of the Intelligence room.

6 vs 6 strategies

When playing Engineer in 6 vs 6 play it is best to play when contesting your team's last point. In this format, it is common that a Scout switches to a class that is good at defending points such as the Engineer. A good strategy to do is use the Gunslinger for a quick building, disposable Sentry. When using a level 3 Sentry Gun, it is best to hide it in a position out of your enemies' line of sight.

See also