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:::  Until somebody like them uploads all of the interesting stuff and all of the (presumably) uninteresting stuff, we can't have any discussion as to the best place to put these things.  There were interesting things that I wasn't even aware of that I didn't see until it until they Uploaded the textures.
 
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Open the pod bay doors

Please locate and upload the textures for the "HAL9000" cameras.

Are these cameras unique to Bread Space? I don't remember seeing them before. The active reflection is a good touch!

M I K A D O 282 ⊙⊙⊙⊙⊙ ⊙⊙ ⊙⊙ (Contact Mikado282 (SM)) | contribs) (Help Wanted!) 02:37, 10 February 2022 (UTC)

Luno reminds us that these textures originated in Asteroid. They showed me the textures; screenshots are much better in this case.
M I K A D O 282 ⊙⊙⊙⊙⊙ ⊙⊙ ⊙⊙ (Talk with Mikado282 (SM)) | contribs) (Help Wanted!) 19:03, 19 June 2022 (UTC)

Gallery Section

I suggest, having only in the image gallery any miscellaneous images relevant to the map (like easter egss), any other images related to the map, such as image posters, blackboard drawings, etc. can be put in a separate image category, similar to Jeff's, this way we can keep the article "clean" from unecesary information.

What do you guys think? Or just leave it as it is ? Yossef | Talk | Contributions 19:37, 18 June 2022 (UTC)

That's the point of the recent uploads, they are images relevant to if not exclusively associated with the map. The storyline is told through many of those, so they belong nowhere else. IIUC, even the RED/BLU logos are unique (correct me if I am wrong). The Hatman graffiti belongs no other place; yes, players can find it, but clear illustration by use of the game files is appropriate. They could be screenshots of the signs in the map, but policy prefers uploads from the game files. I am about to make a pass on the captions and organization.
M I K A D O 282 ⊙⊙⊙⊙⊙ ⊙⊙ ⊙⊙ (Talk with Mikado282 (SM)) | contribs) (Help Wanted!) 19:00, 19 June 2022 (UTC) 19:30, 19 June 2022 (UTC)
Unless the pictures are notable (such as the Portal reference for the Hatmann stuff), not every single poster should be listed on the page, it's making the page unnecessarily large. I vote to remove them from this page and move them somewhere else. If you wanna keep them on this page, I'd suggest making a separate template for it but for consistency it would have to be done on every map page which is a lot of work. I'd rather keep them on List of posters instead.
GrampaSwood (talk) 21:27, 19 June 2022 (UTC)
@Yossef : this edit help?
The images are tied into the lead; or more to the point, the outlandish claims of the lead are now substantiated with links to the relevant gallery. The storyline images are very difficult to read in the game, and IMO the uploaded images should be directly in the page of the storyline they are telling. I want to improve the Trivia with links to the gallery anchors, since much of the Trivia relies on verbal descriptions of these textures that are hard to find, read, or see in the game.
@Yossef & @GrampaSwood :
1) Two of the new galleries now topically associate the particular storyline images. These were done as texture uploads rather than the usual screenshot because (a) image quality is horrible in these screenshots and (b) wiki policy is to use uploaded textures when available.
2) The Portal reference of the Hatman stuff is trivial, rather the real importance of the the Hatman stuff is that it supports the storyline with the tie-ins to Expiration Date and the Bread ARG. The fact that the tie-in is entirely restricted to the map (that is, not canon) strengthens their placement in Bread Space over List of signs. Another point is to give the person wanting to read about the map a good, clear, and conventient look at the textures, not obscured screenshots, not textual directions to their locations, not a Google search to find where the images are hidding in the wiki.
3) Concider the example of the galleries of 2Fort Invasion. They give a propper place to the unique posters of the map. (a) How would it improve either 2Fort Invasion or List of posters to move all of those posters to List of posters? (c) How is a template needed in 2Fort Invasion? I know one of the 2Fort Invasion posters recently snuck into list of poster, does it look like it is in the right place?
4) I personally dislike loading up either List of posters or List of companies with one-off signs that appear on and have sigificant meaning to only one map. If it has notability only with one map, I feel it should be worked in to that one map's page; not lost in a totally unrelated list.
5) I could give on the first gallery (company signs). That said, there are so many RED and BLU logos, List of companies really isn't the place for them, and they are one-offs AFAICT. They could go to the RED/BLU galleries. Normally, one of the Tyco logos could go into the List of companies, as there is a precedent for one-offs there. But, optimally, the Tycho poster would be worked into the margin somewhere on the page as a relevant beautification.
6) I'm not sure what sort of template you are thinking of and why it would be needed on any map not having such thematic textures. Did/does 2Fort Invasion need a template?
7) The List of posters' job is to include the mostly unnotable signs. IMO, it is a poor place to load up with 10 storyline signs from one map (worse yet, if someone insists that they be alphabetized).
8) The bottom gallery is more like the poster gallery of 2Fort Invasion; but I suspect that two of these are developer signatures.
Enough for now. Please Read.
M I K A D O 282 ⊙⊙⊙⊙⊙ ⊙⊙ ⊙⊙ (Talk with Mikado282 (SM)) | contribs) (Help Wanted!) 23:47, 19 June 2022 (UTC)


I would add that we are overlooking the obvious here. We would not even be having this conversation if it weren't for Luno and Andrew360 stepping up to this long-neglected TF2wiki function!
GJ!
Until somebody like them uploads all of the interesting stuff and all of the (presumably) uninteresting stuff, we can't have any discussion as to the best place to put these things. There were interesting things that I wasn't even aware of that I didn't see until it until they Uploaded the textures.
M I K A D O 282 ⊙⊙⊙⊙⊙ ⊙⊙ ⊙⊙ (Talk with Mikado282 (SM)) | contribs) (Help Wanted!) 00:26, 20 June 2022 (UTC) 02:41, 20 June 2022 (UTC)