Talk:Huntsman

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Airblast

Airblast isn't a WEAPON though, unless we consider it to be part of the flamethrower, in which case the flamethrower would have the honor --Firestorm 23:40, 25 August 2010 (UTC)

It's part of the flamethrower like you said. -- OluapPlayer (t) Howdy, pardner! 00:00, 26 August 2010 (UTC)

Flaming Arrows

Would it be bad idea to have a first person view of a flaming Huntsman and its flaming projectile? --CWalkthroughs

That's a very good idea. ORG! Get to it! --Firestorm 15:58, 27 August 2010 (UTC)
Is Org the guy who does all the first person views? -- CWalkthroughs
Yep.  – Smashman (talk) 13:56, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
Erh... Doesn't lowering the arrow after pulling back the Huntsman unlit it? Ziom236 22:00, 2 December 2010 (UTC)
It unlights it visually, but it will still flame the enemy. Only switching weapons or dying gets rid of the flame Balladofwindfishes 22:24, 2 December 2010 (UTC)

Underwater arrow firing

Though the weapon cannot be fired underwater, it can still be fired INTO the water at the cost of a heavily deflected trajectory. Enemies CAN be killed in this fashion. Would this fit better under Trivia or into Huntsman Strategy? --Atylonisus 03:30, 7 October 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for pointing this out. Looking at the Flare Gun page, a similar issue (firing into water) was covered as part of the introduction. I would suggest the same applies to this information. --Focusknock 19:35, 7 October 2010 (UTC)

Height-independent headshots?

I theorized the other day that, because arrows use the projectile hitbox, they cannot know where a class' head bullet-hitbox is, and that they use a system somewhat like "if hit in the upper sixth of the box then arrow in skull". Since all classes have the same size of projectile hitbox, this would mean that you can always get headshots by firing at a particular height, regardless of how tall the target actually is. Can this be tested? Do you get headshots by aiming at heads or at the top bit of the hitbox (which guys like the Engineer are rather shorter than)? Toomai Glittershine 02:59, 8 October 2010 (UTC)

The arrows use the top bit of the projectile hitboxes. That's why the Huntsman causes so much rage: The "head" portion of the projectile hitbox is significantly larger than the player's actual head. -The Neotank ( | Talk) User The Neotank Signeotank.gif 03:10, 8 October 2010 (UTC)

Okay, that didn't exactly answer the question, so I'll clarify with a diagram.

Huntsman theories.png

Basically, there are three options here - which one is it?

  1. Headshot range is the same for all classes regardless of model.
  2. Headshot range is lower for shorter classes, but still reaches to the top of the projectile hitbox.
  3. Headshot range is lower for shorter classes and shots that are still in the hitbox but too high are misses; the total size of the headshot area is the same for all classes.

Toomai Glittershine 12:07, 8 October 2010 (UTC)

Option 4. The hitboxes are different for each classes.

Hit.png

-- Vi3trice (talk) 13:33, 8 October 2010 (UTC)

Uh, yeah, but those are the bullet hitboxes. We're talking about how the Huntsman, which uses the projectile hitbox, which is the same for all classes, decides whether a hit is a headshot. Toomai Glittershine 23:30, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
Not sure there's a difference besides the projectile also has a hitbox and contact (Example: Rockets exploding) occurring when both hitboxes collide. Danton 14:16, 19 October 2010 (UTC)

Half-Life Weapon Similarity

I know I've added this previously and it seems to have been taken down, so lets discuss it before I go adding it again. The Huntsman seems to be very similar to the Half-Life 2 Crossbow. Both are projectiles and seem primitive. The both have large projectile hitboxes, causing the "it looked like it missed" kill. And the main similarity it, it pins enemies to objects if killed with it. Again, I'm not sure why this piece of trivia was removed. Danton 14:13, 19 October 2010 (UTC)

Maybe it just seems to be very irrelevant. to the TF2 universe. - Meter1060 07:33, 11 November 2010 (UTC)

Reference

Is there enough correlation to add trivia that the Huntsman is named after the Freakazoid character[1]? Then again, my "Bushwacka refers to Crocodile Dundee" trivia got removed... JaffaCakeLover 11:53, 28 November 2010 (UTC)

The huntsman is also a large type of spider in Australia, and bows and arrows these days tend to be used for hunting instead of killing. Those are the two references I pulled from the name, anyway. I don't see any actual similarities between the Freakazoid huntsman and the sniper. -Unapologetically Bad 14:17, 28 November 2010 (UTC)