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Double Drop Week 2012?

I've missed the first two Double Drop Weeks and I want to know if there will be a third one. So if anyone could give me some info I would appreciate it a lot thank-you

Exploding Potato 10:23, 2 October 2012 (PDT)

PS: My time is 04:19am ,3 October 2012 (EST)

We do not know anything about valve planing (e.g. Halloween event date), please do not ask this type of questions because we all can't find the answer for you. User Hinaomi Hinaomi-sig.png Hinaomi (talk) • (contributions) 11:06, 2 October 2012 (PDT)

tf2wiki.net?

Does anybody know about why there is this official Wiki along with the (seemingly abandoned) Tf2wiki.net? It doesn't make much sense for two of them to exist... Captinchikin 18:08, 3 October 2012 (PDT)

It is the older version of this wiki. Many pages and images were migrated, but you should consider this one to be the official wiki. Darkid (talk|contribs) 18:26, 3 October 2012 (PDT)
Any way to erase the domain? to avoid confusion between 2 sites for normal people. Irufort 04:57, 9 October 2012 (PDT)
Team_Fortress_Wiki:FAQ#Why two wikis? tf2wiki.net and wiki.teamfortress.com? User Moussekateer signature sprite.pngMoussekateer·talk 07:27, 9 October 2012 (PDT)

Should phrase's meaning be added into trivia?

Thing is, not all translators have native understanding of English nor of English phrases. Adding phrase's meaning into trivia section would help translators and people, who read Wiki in English, but don't have native understanding of it nor its phrases. Example can be found here (Lacking Moral Fiber Mask). It wouldn't require much to add phrase's meaning into trivia section, and it would make it clearer and more helpful, while it may seem very obvious to native speakers. Another example would be "K-9 Mane" (in trivia would be added "K-9 Mane is pronounced similar to Canine man" or something like that); although this example was fairly simple, it might still be good addition to make it clearer. -Asplode 13:04, 7 October 2012 (PDT)

Pictogram plus.png Support — Of course, it is not always necessary. But sometimes it is, and it really helps finding a good, adequate name in other languages. I can also mention cases like this: Tail From the Crypt. — Login Soldier.pngStormbird TC 14:00, 7 October 2012 (PDT)
Pictogram plus.png Agree because it makes sense rZ 05:03, 9 October 2012 (PDT)
Pictogram plus.png Support — Thats's a good idea, not all of us have the same understanding. I think I'll agree if we have to simplify the trivia into much compact and easy read pieces.But we will just leave some as it is . Well since i am also like to tamper with trivial things , I'll second this one :) Irufort 05:07, 9 October 2012 (PDT)
Pictogram plus.png Support Sure, why not. I didn't even realize the K-9 pun until I read it just now — Wind 12:47, 13 October 2012 (PDT)

Splitting PDA

This not the first time I've brought this up, but I'd like to bring it up again. I'm going to list the differences between the Construction PDA and the Destruction PDA. Hopefully you'll agree with me.

Construction PDA

  • Constructs buildings
  • Occupies a loadout slot
    • Can be named, described, and traded

Destruction PDA

  • Destructs buildings
  • Doesn't occupy a loadout slot
    • Cannot be named, described, and traded

This is a short list of the differences, but I believe they are notable enough to warrant separate articles. rZ 05:41, 10 October 2012 (PDT)

Pictogram cross.png Not yet The thing is, the two PDAs are basically a pair. IT doesn't make much sense to split the weapon demonstration simply - you really need one to use the other. The two come as a set, even though only the construction PDA uses a loadout slot. I don't doubt that Valve are intending to add new PDAs at some point in the future, so maybe we should just wait until then and decide what's best at the time. » Cooper Kid (blether) • (contreebs) 05:58, 10 October 2012 (PDT)
Pictogram cross.png Nope Maybe if they had their own loadout slots, but as of now, they're essentially the same item just switching to change their function. Balladofwindfishes 06:03, 10 October 2012 (PDT)
Pictogram comment.png Comment Can we at least split the bucket icon into two separate ones?
It doesn't really make sense to combine the two icons into one image when it's not how they are represented in the backpack.User Upgrade Signature.png 01:28, 11 October 2012 (PDT)
Pictogram comment.png Unsure I don't know. On one hand, they aren't seperate weapons, and aren't sperated via any loadout slots. On the other, they serve very different purposes. I don't think we need a new weapon demonstration video, but I don't know if there's enough information for both PDA's to warrant separate articles. --Enthers. (I find this work intriguing. How about yourself, sir?) 18:19, 13 October 2012 (PDT)
Pictogram comment.png Comment Just split the backpack icon to 2 items (Not split the page) because in the stcok backpack view aren't the same weapon. User Hinaomi Hinaomi-sig.png Hinaomi (talk) • (contributions) 11:01, 22 October 2012 (PDT)

Should we add death cries to the response pages?

Honestly, i don't see a reason not to myself. Should we add them and possibly other sounds to the wiki for completion's sake? Shadoo 09:05, 22 October 2012 (PDT)

Pictogram minus.png I disagree, and feel that all (idiotic) cries (i.e. the ones in Special:Unused files) should be removed. Darkid (talk|contribs) 10:23, 22 October 2012 (PDT)
Pictogram plus.png I agree, I think those sound files must be added (or keep added) and added in an category called "Death cries" (or something else) on the response pages. — Robin0van0der0vliet (talk | contributions) - 11:36, 22 October 2012 (PDT)
Pictogram plus.png Yes. Wiki is usually used to list all particular game's game-related things. So, I agree in adding them. -Asplode 13:46, 22 October 2012 (PDT)
Pictogram plus.png Support I don't think this is strictly necessary, but I also don't see why not. I think this is notable enough to be placed in these articles.  –  Epic Eric (T | C) 13:48, 22 October 2012 (PDT)
Pictogram plus.png Agree Not entirely mandatory, but would be useful if only to supply people on websites with response links like some of our other lines are used for. Balladofwindfishes 15:24, 22 October 2012 (PDT)

{{common link}}

I've been meaning to say this some months ago... but well, better late than never!

There are several links in templates with common strings in the entire Wiki: major update titles, comics, but specially nav boxes. These links can also be seen sometimes in languages, to "counter" "unstable" translations (for example, translations subject to changes in the Steam Translation Server) or for other reasons. One way or another, they all currently use the [[Name{{if lang}}|{{common string|name}}]] structure, which is too much for just a link. Instead, I propose we use a {{common link}} template, which works just like the {{item link}} one, by grabbing strings from the common string dictionary and making them into translation-switched links. This would help both when making templates or when you need to translate a piece of text from a link using the dictionary (this is what /pt-br and /de normally do in their articles).

Sure, changing all of these in the entire Wiki would be a difficult and tiring task (unless we were to use bots somehow), but the final result would certainly be great and rewarding. What do you think?  –  Epic Eric (T | C) 11:07, 22 October 2012 (PDT)