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:The staff decide when they want to change the article. Last time I had to go to them and ask. If you want, you can go to the staff IRC channel and talk to them about it as well. --[[File:User Dr. Scaphandre Golden Ghastly Gibus.png|50px|link=User talk:Dr. Scaphandre]] [[User:Dr. Scaphandre|<font color="FFDF00"><big>''Dr. Scaphandre''</big></font>]] 07:38, 27 November 2015 (PST)
 
:The staff decide when they want to change the article. Last time I had to go to them and ask. If you want, you can go to the staff IRC channel and talk to them about it as well. --[[File:User Dr. Scaphandre Golden Ghastly Gibus.png|50px|link=User talk:Dr. Scaphandre]] [[User:Dr. Scaphandre|<font color="FFDF00"><big>''Dr. Scaphandre''</big></font>]] 07:38, 27 November 2015 (PST)
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In response to that, I'd like to hear a staff members comment, because it really doesn't seem like they're changing it regularly enough, so I think there needs to either be renewed effort on the part of the staff, or we need to have a serious conversation about the processes by which front page content is updated, because the current article is still the Duck Journal! That's End of The Line, how many updates have we had between then and now! I'd love to hear a staff member's thoughts on this, because @Dr, while yes, the staff do decide when that article changes, I think if that system isn't working (a fact which I'd love to be corrected on if I'm wrong), then it needs to be discussed, with whatever conclusion that discussion results in being enacted. --[[User:Sleetwolf|<span style="color: #7A0029">'''Sleet'''wolf</span>]]<span style="color: #7A0029"><sup><small>[[User talk:Sleetwolf|Talk]]-[[Special:Contributions/Sleetwolf|Contribs]]</small></sup></span> 19:56, 27 November 2015 (PST)

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Possible overhaul

As recently highlighted on the discussion page, the featured article project needs help. Currently anyone who feels a page is eligible can simply make a tiny submission under 'it's awesome' or to that extent, without placing the required template on the article's talk page. Additionally, voting on these candidates is sparse and no general discussion is made. In fact the discussion appears to stray from the required 'is it in good form/layout' to 'do we really want people to see this on the front page?', a form of policy which is not even considered in the guidelines.

I therefore propose an overhaul of the current system with the possible implementation of the following:

  • Only open up featured article candidacy at the end of a month, with a possible grace period, where people may make submissions and vote on the page candidates. Less pages will appear in limbo waiting for a vote, and it sets a regime for when the featured article will change.
  • The winning page with the most votes should be featured for a month only, until the next voting period begins.
  • Put all previous candidate discussions in an archive, so as not to clutter up the page or imply the discussion is still ongoing.
  • Have the featured article template on the main page of the candidates. This is a more observable space and will encourage editors to vote.
  • Rework the entry requirements. If policy decisions are a key requirement, it should be listed as such. If all pages have an equal chance of being featured, then it should be specified as such. Currently the requirements are vague on this point.

I feel these are all simple suggestions that require little expenditure from moderators or administrators to upkeep, whilst bringing quality and organisation to the project. --Focusknock 10:33, 8 March 2011 (UTC)

Me likey. Shock394 22:54, 8 March 2011 (UTC)
Pictogram plus.png Support Makes sense to me. I do not know if it is currently the case (it may be), but it might be a good idea if one of the bots added the feature article to the Main page automatically, rather than requiring a staff member to "promote" it manually. The bot would simply select the article with the most votes, which would help to automate the system and ensure that, even if only six people out of the entire Wiki voted within the nominated period, the candidate with the most support would be automatically selected. I do not know how feasible this is, but I thought that I would submit it for consideration. Esquilax 23:44, 8 March 2011 (UTC)
Pictogram plus.png Support Not a bad idea at all. Pierow 07:24, 9 March 2011 (UTC)
I believe the following things need further clarification:
  • The 'grace period', in which editors are able to vote on candidates. Essentially this needs to open up before a featured article is made, and should be sufficiently long enough so that enough votes are collected. At the minute, I'm considering a week to be ample enough time.
  • The backlog of featured articles from the unofficial TF Wiki needs cleaning. I'm sorry, but the current pages differ greatly from what they once were, and do not help in showing viewers that this wiki is completely segregated from the unofficial one.
  • Expanding on Esquilax's point, an automated featuring process would be beneficial. However, there may be certain issues regarding whether the bot can actually tell the difference between votes for and against, and whether general comments would be taken into account. There's also the issue of whether the staff are willing to update the featured article on their own.

Please bear in mind these are only suggestions of my own. If you feel you have a better idea or believe something I have stated is in question, put forward your opinion.--Focusknock 10:41, 21 March 2011 (UTC)

Pictogram plus.png Support That's a great idea, because I think that everyone is bored to see the old "backstab" page featured in the main page. And then, after what the people before me said, there's only a problem to care about: What if no page is elected or the votes aren't enough? --Pratolli 20:27, 25 April 2011 (UTC)
Pictogram plus.png Support But we'll want to establish protocol for how many votes a majority needs, what to do if not enough, etc.   Hooper   talk    contribs    email   17:45, 27 June 2011 (PDT)

Featured article: current update?

I Believe that the featured article should be about the current update, And when there hasn't been any updates for a while, It can then be a completely different article. I'm sure this has been brought up before but I'm just putting it out there. Ihasnotomato

Pictogram minus.png Oppose No, we have the Latest updates tab and the Patches page for that. -- Denmax (talk|contributions|sandbox) Item icon Soldier's Stash.png 17:53, 25 July 2011 (PDT)

Project?

Is this a project á la 3D Models and Weapon Demonstration? Rolandius 05:36, 6 October 2011 (PDT)

Don't think so. 3D model project is recent, and I do believe Featured Articles existed before the Weapon Demos as well. SS2R 05:37, 6 October 2011 (PDT)
About the move... Pictogram minus.png Disagree It's part of all Wikis and it's named as "Featured articles" on all of them.  –  Epic Eric (T | C) 13:45, 6 October 2011 (PDT)

Reinvigoration?

Is there some time limit on how often this changes? Because to have the featured article update what would be at this point once a year (last was 4 months ago, and before that was almost 12) seems odd at best. I'd like to look into reinvigorating this, and perhaps work on a new system for making sure there's the best content showcased on the front page. Surely between July and now there've been some great articles that could be featured on our revered front page.

If there's been some back end staff decision about the featured article, just let me know, but otherwise, I might try and reinvigorate it.

Thanks --SleetwolfTalk-Contribs 03:12, 27 November 2015 (PST)

The staff decide when they want to change the article. Last time I had to go to them and ask. If you want, you can go to the staff IRC channel and talk to them about it as well. --User Dr. Scaphandre Golden Ghastly Gibus.png Dr. Scaphandre 07:38, 27 November 2015 (PST)

In response to that, I'd like to hear a staff members comment, because it really doesn't seem like they're changing it regularly enough, so I think there needs to either be renewed effort on the part of the staff, or we need to have a serious conversation about the processes by which front page content is updated, because the current article is still the Duck Journal! That's End of The Line, how many updates have we had between then and now! I'd love to hear a staff member's thoughts on this, because @Dr, while yes, the staff do decide when that article changes, I think if that system isn't working (a fact which I'd love to be corrected on if I'm wrong), then it needs to be discussed, with whatever conclusion that discussion results in being enacted. --SleetwolfTalk-Contribs 19:56, 27 November 2015 (PST)