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{{Map infobox
 
{{Map infobox
| game-type=Payload
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  | map-status                = official
| file-name=pl_thundermountain
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  | map-game-type             = Payload
| map-image=PL Thunder Mountain.png
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  | map-file-name             = pl_thundermountain
| map-multiple-stages = 3
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  | map-image                 = PL Thunder Mountain.png
| map-environment = Alpine
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  | map-released              = {{Patch name|7|8|2010}}
| map-setting = Daylight, raining
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  | map-released-major        = Engineer Update
| map-deep-water = {{tooltip|Yes| Stage 2 only}}
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  | map-has-n-stages         = 3
| map-hazards = [[Environmental_death#Pitfalls|Pitfall]]
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  | map-environment           = Alpine
| map-health-pickups-small = 25
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  | map-setting               = Daylight, raining
| map-health-pickups-medium = 24
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  | map-has-deep-water       = {{tooltip|Yes|Stage 2 only}}
| map-health-pickups-large = 1
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  | map-hazards               = [[Environmental_death#Pitfalls|Pitfall]]
| map-ammo-pickups-small = 7
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  | map-pickups-health-small = 25
| map-ammo-pickups-medium = 9
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  | map-pickups-health-medium = 24
| map-ammo-pickups-large = 21
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  | map-pickups-health-large = 1
| map-bots = 1
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  | map-pickups-ammo-small   = 7
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  | map-pickups-ammo-medium   = 9
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  | map-pickups-ammo-large   = 21
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  | map-has-bots             = yes
 
}}
 
}}
  
{{Quotation|'''The Engineer''' finding the Sniper's hidden camping spot|Aw, now you don't look like a happy camper.|sound=Engineer_dominationsniper07.wav}}
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{{Quotation|'''The Engineer''' finding the Sniper's hidden camping spot|Aw, now you don't look like a happy camper.|sound=Engineer dominationsniper07.wav}}
{{Map Variant}}
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'''Thunder Mountain''' is a Valve-developed [[Payload]] map included with the [[Engineer Update]], [http://www.teamfortress.com/post.php?id=4048 revealed] on Day 4 thereof. It is the third official Payload map to be developed and released since the [[Heavy Update]], and one of three Payload-based maps released during the Engineer Update, the others being [[Upward]] and [[Hightower]] (a [[Payload Race]] map).
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'''Thunder Mountain''' is a Valve-developed [[Payload]] map included with the [[Engineer Update]], [https://www.teamfortress.com/post.php?id=4048 revealed] on Day 4 thereof. It is the third official Payload map to be developed and released since the [[Heavy Update]], and one of three Payload-based maps released during the Engineer Update, the others being [[Upward]] and [[Hightower]] (a [[Payload Race]] map).
  
 
Thunder Mountain is a multi-stage Payload map, like [[Gold Rush]] and [[Hoodoo]]. Unlike other Payload maps, Thunder Mountain features new gameplay mechanisms not used in earlier maps, including a bridge which must be raised in order for the cart to cross, and sloped tracks, marked with yellow and black caution stripes.
 
Thunder Mountain is a multi-stage Payload map, like [[Gold Rush]] and [[Hoodoo]]. Unlike other Payload maps, Thunder Mountain features new gameplay mechanisms not used in earlier maps, including a bridge which must be raised in order for the cart to cross, and sloped tracks, marked with yellow and black caution stripes.
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=== Stage 1 ===
 
=== Stage 1 ===
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[[File:Thunder Mountain_stage_one.png|thumb|right|Details of stage 1 (large file).]]
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* '''[[BLU]] Spawn''': A spawn with two exits, one on the left and one on the right wall leading to courtyard.
 
* '''First Courtyard''': Just outside BLU spawn is a courtyard that resembles Gold Rush's Stage A, Checkpoint 1.
 
* '''First Courtyard''': Just outside BLU spawn is a courtyard that resembles Gold Rush's Stage A, Checkpoint 1.
 
* '''Bridge''': At the end of the First Courtyard is a small, tighter section of woodwork that leads to an unraised bridge. By pushing the cart onto the point the bridge raises slowly until it is high enough for the Payload to cross.
 
* '''Bridge''': At the end of the First Courtyard is a small, tighter section of woodwork that leads to an unraised bridge. By pushing the cart onto the point the bridge raises slowly until it is high enough for the Payload to cross.
[[Image:Thunder Mountain_stage_one.png|thumb|right|Details of stage 1 (large file).]]
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* '''[[RED]] Spawn''': A large spawn room with windows overviewing the entire courtyard and outside of BLU spawn. Leads down a couple of staircases to a singular exit near Stage A, Checkpoint 2.
  
 
=== Stage 2 ===
 
=== Stage 2 ===
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[[File:Thunder Mountain_stage_two.png|thumb|right|Details of stage 2 (large file).]]
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* '''BLU Spawn''': A large spawn room with staircases leading to equipment and furniture which is purely cosmetic. It has two main exits, with one exit on the left and right walls, respectively.
 
* '''Tunnel''': After crossing a bridge at BLU spawn, the cart is then pushed among a bottleneck track and to the first capture point.
 
* '''Tunnel''': After crossing a bridge at BLU spawn, the cart is then pushed among a bottleneck track and to the first capture point.
 
* '''Final Cap''': The final capture point is right after the first capture point. The cart is pushed into a tunnel and among a ramp, and after the ramp lies the final capture point.
 
* '''Final Cap''': The final capture point is right after the first capture point. The cart is pushed into a tunnel and among a ramp, and after the ramp lies the final capture point.
[[Image:Thunder Mountain_stage_two.png|thumb|right|Details of stage 2 (large file).]]
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* '''RED Spawn''': A spawn room with two exits. One exit leads to the dropdown to the final cap, and the other inside a sheltered building to A.  
  
 
=== Stage 3 ===
 
=== Stage 3 ===
* '''First Cap''': Just below the final tower is the bomb cart's start, it is pushed into a covered track and back around to the second point.
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[[File:Thunder Mountain_stage_three.png|thumb|right|Details of stage 3 (large file).]]
* '''Second Cap''': The second cap is on a bridge on the outskirts of the map. The cart then proceeds up a ramp to the final cap.
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* '''Final Spiral''': In Thunder Mountain's final stage is a large tower, which the BLU team slowly climbs over the course of the round until they push it into a hole in the center, detonating the cart.
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* '''BLU Spawn''': A spawn room that leads to two small areas with staircases. Each room has two exits; one of each serves as a quick route of shortcuts to B and A, left and right room respectively. The other two exits lead to the bomb cart's start.
[[Image:Thunder Mountain_stage_three.png|thumb|right|Details of stage 3 (large file).]]
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* '''Payload Starting Point''': Just below the final tower is the bomb cart's start. This position is very vulnerable to enemy fire due to the lack of cover and most places on the map being able to fire on this area.
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* '''Checkpoint B''': The second cap is on a bridge on the outskirts of the map. The cart then proceeds up a ramp to the final cap.
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* '''Final Spiral''': In Thunder Mountain's final stage is a large tower, which the BLU team slowly climbs over the course of the round until they push the cart into a hole in the center, detonating it.
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* '''RED Spawn''': A spawn room with a similar design to BLU's spawn, though with more shallow staircases. The left room has a shortcut to A, and the right room a shortcut to B. Similarly to BLU's spawn, there are also two doors on each side that head towards the final tower.
  
 
== Strategy ==
 
== Strategy ==
 
{{main|Community Thunder Mountain strategy}}
 
{{main|Community Thunder Mountain strategy}}
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{{community strategy stub link}}
  
 
== Gallery ==
 
== Gallery ==
 
<gallery widths=150px heights=90px>
 
<gallery widths=150px heights=90px>
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File:Thunder Mountain stage1.png|Overview of stage 1
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File:Thunder Mountain stage2.png|Overview of stage 2
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File:Thunder Mountain stage3 tunnels.png|Overview of stage 3
 
File:thunder_pl_01.png|Stage 1 Checkpoint 1
 
File:thunder_pl_01.png|Stage 1 Checkpoint 1
 
File:thunder_pl_02.png|Stage 1 Checkpoint 2
 
File:thunder_pl_02.png|Stage 1 Checkpoint 2
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File:thunder_pl_06.png|Stage 3 Checkpoint 2
 
File:thunder_pl_06.png|Stage 3 Checkpoint 2
 
File:thunder_pl_07.png|Stage 3 Checkpoint 3
 
File:thunder_pl_07.png|Stage 3 Checkpoint 3
File:Pl_thundermountainst1blu.png|The BLU characters as seen on Thunder Mountain, Stage 1, from BLU spawn.
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File:Pl_thundermountainst1blu.png|The BLU characters as seen on Thunder Mountain, Stage 1, from BLU Spawn.
 
File:Pl_thundermountainst1.png|The train as seen on Stage 1 of Thunder Mountain.
 
File:Pl_thundermountainst1.png|The train as seen on Stage 1 of Thunder Mountain.
 
File:Thundermountaineastereggswimmingpoolcloseup.jpg|The RED team in the swimming pool, as seen from inside the swimming pool as seen on Stage 2.
 
File:Thundermountaineastereggswimmingpoolcloseup.jpg|The RED team in the swimming pool, as seen from inside the swimming pool as seen on Stage 2.
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== Bugs ==
 
== Bugs ==
* Players can get stuck on Stage 1 of the map if they crouch at the end of the bridge near the control point whilst it rises. The bridge will rise halfway and the player will rise with it, but then the player will stop rising while the bridge continues on.
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* Players can get stuck on Stage 1 of the map if they crouch at the end of the bridge near the control point whilst it rises. The bridge rises halfway and the player rises with it, but then the player stops rising while the bridge continues on.
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* On Stage 3, a player's view can glitch out if they rub against Checkpoint 3's sign on top of the roof.
  
 
== Trivia ==
 
== Trivia ==
*On Stage 1, in the BLU spawn, the player may see some BLU characters in an area similar to the [[Target|Soldier Training]] map, around a blackboard. They will occasionally [[taunt]], albeit with no weapons, and will also occasionally do the [[Taunts#Thriller taunt|Thriller taunt]] regardless of the time of the year. [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91vNOPehRjU]
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* On Stage 1, in the BLU spawn, the player may see some BLU characters in an area similar to the [[Target|Soldier Training]] map, around a blackboard. They occasionally [[Taunts|taunt]], albeit with no weapons, and also occasionally do the [[Taunts#Thriller taunt|Thriller taunt]] regardless of the time of the year.
*On Stage 2, in the [[RED]] spawn, one may see the RED team swimming in a pool.
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* On Stage 2, in the [[RED]] spawn, one may see the RED team swimming in a pool.
*On Stage 3, near the second checkpoint (third dot), off in the distance the [[Sniper]] can be seen near his camper van (the same one seen in [[Meet the Sniper]]), a tent, and a fire. He only appears after BLU team has pushed the Payload past the first checkpoint.
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* On Stage 3, near the second checkpoint (third dot), off in the distance the [[Sniper]] can be seen near his camper van (the same one seen in [[Meet the Sniper]]), a tent, and a fire. He only appears after BLU team has pushed the Payload past the first checkpoint.
 
* Thunder Mountain was originally teased on Day 1 of the Engineer Update, on the map of [[Map of Badlands|''Badlands'']], an area that a number of game maps occupy.
 
* Thunder Mountain was originally teased on Day 1 of the Engineer Update, on the map of [[Map of Badlands|''Badlands'']], an area that a number of game maps occupy.
 
* There is an actual mountain named Thunder Mountain in [[w:Thunder Mountain (California)|Sierra Nevada, California]].
 
* There is an actual mountain named Thunder Mountain in [[w:Thunder Mountain (California)|Sierra Nevada, California]].
** However, this map's name references the history of nuclear weapon development at [[Map of Badlands#Correspondence to Actual New Mexico Geography|Los Alamos National Laboratory]] (see also the mushroom cloud reference on the [http://www.teamfortress.com/engineerupdate/ Engineer Update page]), with a few underground nuclear tests occurring just north of where this map is located.
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** However, this map's name references the history of nuclear weapon development at [[Map of Badlands#Correspondence to actual New Mexico geography|Los Alamos National Laboratory]] (see also the mushroom cloud reference on the [http://www.teamfortress.com/engineerupdate/ Engineer Update page]), with a few underground nuclear tests occurring just north of where this map is located.
{{anchor|ADME105}}
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* A train can be seen occasionally pulling a logging train across a trestle off the map near the lumbering near Stage 1 BLU Spawn.
* A.D.M.E. locomotive 105, seen as a static model on many previous maps, is animated here, occasionally pulling a logging train across a trestle off the map near Stage 1 BLU Spawn:
 
** In spite of the playback of steam exhaust and steam whistle sounds, A.D.M.E. 105 is in fact a model of a [[w:Davenport Locomotive Works|Davenport]] ''diesel'' locomotive.
 
** It is modeled on [http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=2191439 D&RGW #50], the only narrow gauge diesel locomotive that the D&RGW railroad ever owned.  
 
** This model is particularly identified by the ''unique'' custom mounting of an airbrake cylinder as a coupler-adjusting device on the front, which allowed #50 to be coupled to cars of different gauge. While the real #50 was a narrow gauge locomotive that could couple to standard gauge cars, the in-game A.D.M.E. 105 is usually rendered oversized as a standard gauge locomotive coupled to narrow gauge cars (check the undercarriages with noclip in [[Badwater Basin]]).
 
** In 1968<!-- http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=2191439 -->, the D&RGW operated this locomotive in [[w:Durango, Colorado|Durango, Colorado]], which is across the mountains northwest of Valles Caldera, and so, corresponds with the label "Thunder Mountains" on the [[Map of Badlands]].
 
** [[w:Archer Daniels Midland|Archer Daniels Midlands]] ([[w:List of reporting marks: A|A.D.M.X.]]) operated a few [http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=1264362 superficially similar locomotives.]
 
  
 
== External links ==
 
== External links ==
*[http://www.teamfortress.com/engineerupdate/ The Engineer Update]
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* [https://www.teamfortress.com/engineerupdate/ The Engineer Update]
  
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{{Engineer Update Nav}}
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{{Maps Nav}}
  
{{EngineerUpdateNav}}
 
{{Maps nav}}
 
 
[[Category:Quickplay maps]]
 
[[Category:Quickplay maps]]

Latest revision as of 07:42, 13 April 2024

Thunder Mountain
PL Thunder Mountain.png
Basic Information
Map type: Payload
File name: pl_thundermountain
Released: July 8, 2010 Patch
(Engineer Update)
Variants: Mannpower
Developer(s): Valve
Map Info
No. of Stages: 3
Environment: Alpine
Setting: Daylight, raining
Hazards: Pitfall
Deep Water: Yes
Bot support: Yes
Map Items
Healthico.png Health Kits: Smallhealth.png ×25  •  Mediumhealth.png ×24  •  
Largehealth.png ×1
Ammoico.png Ammo Boxes: Smallammo.png ×7   •   Mediumammo.png ×9   •  
Largeammo.png ×21
Map Photos
Loading screen photos.
Aw, now you don't look like a happy camper.
The Engineer finding the Sniper's hidden camping spot

Thunder Mountain is a Valve-developed Payload map included with the Engineer Update, revealed on Day 4 thereof. It is the third official Payload map to be developed and released since the Heavy Update, and one of three Payload-based maps released during the Engineer Update, the others being Upward and Hightower (a Payload Race map).

Thunder Mountain is a multi-stage Payload map, like Gold Rush and Hoodoo. Unlike other Payload maps, Thunder Mountain features new gameplay mechanisms not used in earlier maps, including a bridge which must be raised in order for the cart to cross, and sloped tracks, marked with yellow and black caution stripes.

Locations

Stage 1

Details of stage 1 (large file).
  • BLU Spawn: A spawn with two exits, one on the left and one on the right wall leading to courtyard.
  • First Courtyard: Just outside BLU spawn is a courtyard that resembles Gold Rush's Stage A, Checkpoint 1.
  • Bridge: At the end of the First Courtyard is a small, tighter section of woodwork that leads to an unraised bridge. By pushing the cart onto the point the bridge raises slowly until it is high enough for the Payload to cross.
  • RED Spawn: A large spawn room with windows overviewing the entire courtyard and outside of BLU spawn. Leads down a couple of staircases to a singular exit near Stage A, Checkpoint 2.

Stage 2

Details of stage 2 (large file).
  • BLU Spawn: A large spawn room with staircases leading to equipment and furniture which is purely cosmetic. It has two main exits, with one exit on the left and right walls, respectively.
  • Tunnel: After crossing a bridge at BLU spawn, the cart is then pushed among a bottleneck track and to the first capture point.
  • Final Cap: The final capture point is right after the first capture point. The cart is pushed into a tunnel and among a ramp, and after the ramp lies the final capture point.
  • RED Spawn: A spawn room with two exits. One exit leads to the dropdown to the final cap, and the other inside a sheltered building to A.

Stage 3

Details of stage 3 (large file).
  • BLU Spawn: A spawn room that leads to two small areas with staircases. Each room has two exits; one of each serves as a quick route of shortcuts to B and A, left and right room respectively. The other two exits lead to the bomb cart's start.
  • Payload Starting Point: Just below the final tower is the bomb cart's start. This position is very vulnerable to enemy fire due to the lack of cover and most places on the map being able to fire on this area.
  • Checkpoint B: The second cap is on a bridge on the outskirts of the map. The cart then proceeds up a ramp to the final cap.
  • Final Spiral: In Thunder Mountain's final stage is a large tower, which the BLU team slowly climbs over the course of the round until they push the cart into a hole in the center, detonating it.
  • RED Spawn: A spawn room with a similar design to BLU's spawn, though with more shallow staircases. The left room has a shortcut to A, and the right room a shortcut to B. Similarly to BLU's spawn, there are also two doors on each side that head towards the final tower.

Strategy

Main article: Community Thunder Mountain strategy

Gallery

Update history

July 8, 2010 Patch (Engineer Update)
  • Added Thunder Mountain to the game.

August 17, 2010 Patch

  • Clipped off sticky outcrops for smoother movement.
  • Clipped various exploit ledges.
  • Increased environment ambient exterior light level.
  • Stage 1
    • Fixed hole in respawn room brushes in RED spawn.
    • Shifted respawn times to favor BLU by two seconds.
  • Stage 3
    • Clipped rocks off by BLU's spawn exit that leads to building B. (allowed Snipers to snipe the entire area)
    • Removed embedded displacement. (building B interior roof)
    • Removed rogue clip brush from building A balcony.

February 14, 2011 Patch

  • Updated the final stage to have the train begin receding after 25 seconds. (15 seconds on the final stretch)
  • [Undocumented] Reduced the cart speed on the final two ramps in the final stage to 1/2 normal speed.

May 3, 2012 Patch

  • Fixed a build-in-spawn exploit in the Blue spawn room for stage 2.

July 10, 2013 Patch

  • Fixed gate visible through ceiling in stage 3
  • Fixed clipping in stage 3 Blu spawn
  • Prevented players from building in the cliffside kill zone in stage 1

March 17, 2016 Patch

  • Fixed being able to build on rocks outside of the fence by the capture points.

July 7, 2016 Patch #1 (Meet Your Match Update)

  • Fixed the first and second cap points of stage 3 each awarding 2 points to the capturing team instead of 1.

Bugs

  • Players can get stuck on Stage 1 of the map if they crouch at the end of the bridge near the control point whilst it rises. The bridge rises halfway and the player rises with it, but then the player stops rising while the bridge continues on.
  • On Stage 3, a player's view can glitch out if they rub against Checkpoint 3's sign on top of the roof.

Trivia

  • On Stage 1, in the BLU spawn, the player may see some BLU characters in an area similar to the Soldier Training map, around a blackboard. They occasionally taunt, albeit with no weapons, and also occasionally do the Thriller taunt regardless of the time of the year.
  • On Stage 2, in the RED spawn, one may see the RED team swimming in a pool.
  • On Stage 3, near the second checkpoint (third dot), off in the distance the Sniper can be seen near his camper van (the same one seen in Meet the Sniper), a tent, and a fire. He only appears after BLU team has pushed the Payload past the first checkpoint.
  • Thunder Mountain was originally teased on Day 1 of the Engineer Update, on the map of Badlands, an area that a number of game maps occupy.
  • There is an actual mountain named Thunder Mountain in Sierra Nevada, California.
    • However, this map's name references the history of nuclear weapon development at Los Alamos National Laboratory (see also the mushroom cloud reference on the Engineer Update page), with a few underground nuclear tests occurring just north of where this map is located.
  • A train can be seen occasionally pulling a logging train across a trestle off the map near the lumbering near Stage 1 BLU Spawn.

External links