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** It can't be something related with the current TF2 problems. [[File:User Denied signature.jpg|50px|link=User:Denied]] [[User:Denied|<font color="DB9C1F">Denied</font>]] [[User talk:Denied|<font color="DB9C1F">(Talk)</font>]] 06:36, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
  
 
== Patch page ==
 
== Patch page ==

Revision as of 06:36, 29 March 2020

Staff Disclaimer

Everything should settled on and ready by March 31. Take all the time you need until then to discuss, organize, and put together everything you'd like to show up in the fake update.

Please try to avoid the following:

New weapons or balance changes that are based on actual problems with TF2
Bug fixes or game changes that address actual TF2 problems
Anything regarding matchmaking or promised features

Try to make something that is very obviously a joke update, it's better to go over the top than to be subtle. It's okay to make fun of other Valve games, as long as it's done in jest rather than out of malice. — Tark lm(pt-br) 20:54, 21 March 2020 (UTC)

Other discussions

Timestamp

  • At what time will these pranks go live? Should they cater to people in all timezones or just washington time? The first meaning that it may start at 2pm on March 31st for people in the US, and the second meaning that there could be no pranks when its april first in other countrie's time. Naleksuh (talk) 22:19, 22 March 2020 (UTC)
I don't know what our policy is on things like this, but I think common sense tells to apply it to all timezones - go live as soon as it's April 1st somewhere, and stay live for as long as April 1st still lasts somewhere. Washington time or any other timezone shouldn't be considered 'superior' or more important than others. Killicon flaming huntsman.png VasyaTheWizard (talk) • (contributions) 15:35, 24 March 2020 (UTC)
The day switches on the far east Russian island of Big Diomede
GrampaSwood (talk) 20:11, 24 March 2020 (UTC)
Thing is the timezones can span by a while. According to my calculations, in order to ensure it's up for the entirety of April 1st in every timezone, we would need to put it up at 3am on march 31st, then take it down at 4am on april 2nd, which is a span of two entire days total. But I don't see that as a huge problem. We could also save a bit of time by guaranteeing it up at 8am instead of Midnight, meaning it would be put up at 11am march 31st washington time. I'll save the details for later on, but right now it's just to worry about and make sure everything is ready on the 31st to go live then (washington time). Naleksuh (talk) 21:31, 24 March 2020 (UTC)
My friend on Steam suggested to do Eastern Time, then he added that it should be on "March 31st @ midnight Washington time" (Washington time = EDT). I think we should keep at least April 2, 2020 @ midnight Washington time. User Gabrielwoj Signature Icon.png - User Gabrielwoj Signature 1.pngUser Gabrielwoj Signature 2.png - User Gabrielwoj Signature 3.png 20:38, 27 March 2020 (UTC)
No, when I say washington time I'm referring to the time in Valve HQ, where all dates on this wiki are measured from. That's pacific time, three hours behind eastern time. March 31st at midnight would be about three hours before it's april 1st anywhere on earth, unless you meant March 31st at 11:59.
Anyway, I checked using the Samoas and we need to put it up at March 31st at 11am (Washington/Pacific/GMT-8 time), and take it down on April 2nd, at 4am (same time). Naleksuh (talk) 21:14, 27 March 2020 (UTC)

Half-Life: Alyx

Does anyone have any good idea for Half Life:alyx? Dereko thinks we should not miss this hot topic. User Dereko Name.png 13:44, 26 March 2020 (UTC)
Absolutely i think too. Maybe "Valve Corporation decided to develop a VR game for the Team Fortress series due Half Life: Alyx's success". Something like this might be good ManyaKadir (talk) 14:23, 26 March 2020 (UTC)

Translation work

  • If we are going to make translation pages as well, that means we have to create another sub page in the user pages. Is this all right?
  • What's the best time to create the translation pages, will there be any deadline?
  • Chinese Mainland people cannnot visit Youtube without a VPN, so maybe we can upload same videos in Bilibili (a popular Chinese video webite) and link to them in the Chinese pages?

User Dereko Name.png 03:46, 29 March 2020 (UTC)

Ideas

Accepted

Pictogram comment.png Once an idea gets 5 or more Pictogram plus.png  votes with little to no Pictogram minus.png  votes, it should be moved here.

Proposed

Pictogram comment.png Put your ideas here. Please treat this like a talk page and put your ideas under Proposed with your signature under it.

GrampaSwood's ideas

Patch note ideas:

  • Turned all classes into pickles. Funniest shit we've ever seen. Pictogram plus.png 5 | Pictogram minus.png 1 Pictogram tick.png Added
  • Depending on the value of the cosmetics a class is wearing, the class will receive a damage bonus ranging from -5% when there's no hats to +50% with expensive Unusuals. Pictogram plus.png 3 | Pictogram minus.png 0
  • All servers now host a 100% crit cp_orange or trade_minecraft map. Pictogram plus.png 5 | Pictogram minus.png 0 Pictogram tick.png Added
  • Removed "Report" button because it was used too much. (Credit to Fiat_Seicento for this one). Pictogram plus.png 4 | Pictogram minus.png 0
  • Players often complained that matches don't last long enough on maps like 2Fort and Hightower. To fix this, we put invisible walls in the middle of the map to make it impossible to do the objectives. Pictogram plus.png 5 | Pictogram minus.png 0 Pictogram tick.png Added

These are just some of my ideas, feel free to vote on it. Idk what the threshold is for accepting one, I guess we'll have to figure that out based on the amount of people that want to participate
GrampaSwood (talk) 18:46, 21 March 2020 (UTC)

Some of these don't sound like real patch notes. They should sound like real patch notes unless the goal is explicitly not to. Naleksuh (talk) 18:51, 21 March 2020 (UTC)
In Jungle Inferno they added some explanation, patch notes can just be general gameplay changes and don't have to be "added 10% extra damage to Iron Bomber".
GrampaSwood (talk) 18:53, 21 March 2020 (UTC)
I'm talking about stuff like instead of "Due to an increase in reports that matches don't last long enough on maps like 2Fort and Hightower, we put invisible walls in the middle of the map to make it impossible to do the objectives." it would be something like "Added invisible walls to prevent pushing the payload in Hightower" or "Fixed a bug where the intelligence could be picked up in 2Fort". Because it doesn't sound like valve's writing style. However, a possible exception to this could be "FIX BUG w/ h1gh tower cart being pushed" (something they obviously would not write, as part of the joke) Naleksuh (talk) 20:26, 21 March 2020 (UTC)
I'll change it a bit. Though please vote on them.
GrampaSwood (talk) 20:33, 21 March 2020 (UTC)
I also propose a possible hoax in addition to the main page changes. For example, about the heavy update dropping. Just like with previous years, there can be articles about it (that will be moved into Project namespace once it's April 2nd US time, April 3rd EU time), and YouTube demonstrations as well. Naleksuh (talk) 20:26, 21 March 2020 (UTC)
IIRC no speculation like "heavy update about to drop" or something similar, because there was something against plausible things like that I don't remember exactly what it was though.
GrampaSwood (talk) 20:33, 21 March 2020 (UTC)
How about "Dropped the heavy update" as a patch note with no furthur explanation like Fiat Seicento suggests, and we'll come up with a new "big hoax"? Naleksuh (talk) 20:45, 21 March 2020 (UTC)

Fiat Seicento's ideas

Here are mine:

  • Adjusted inflation of MvM money Pictogram plus.png 3 | Pictogram minus.png 0
  • Due to COVID-19 outbreak (also called Coronavirus) all upcoming matches between RED & BLU teams have been suspended until further notice Pictogram plus.png 4 | Pictogram minus.png 0
  • Fixed a bug in which Sun-on-a-Stick and Sharpened Volcano Fragment could be useful Pictogram plus.png 4 | Pictogram minus.png 1
  • Diary products such as Mad milk will now deal more damage to non lactose tolerant players Pictogram plus.png 5 | Pictogram minus.png 0 Pictogram tick.png Added
  • You can now apply war paints to Classic Pictogram plus.png 1 | Pictogram minus.png 4 Pictogram nope.png Nope
  • Added Artifact promotional items Pictogram plus.png 4 | Pictogram minus.png 0 Pictogram nope.png Nope. Need actual content (see discussion).
  • Updated localisation files Pictogram plus.png 4 | Pictogram minus.png 1
  • Removed in-game medals Pictogram plus.png 4 | Pictogram minus.png 1
  • Team Fortress 2 has been ported to new Valve's engine! GoldSRC! Pictogram plus.png 3 | Pictogram minus.png 0
  • Added dynamic weather and day & night cycle (mostly noticeable in Hightower/2fort matches) Pictogram plus.png 1 | Pictogram minus.png 0
  • Fixed a bug allowing Engineer with The Danger to cook meth for money Pictogram plus.png 2 | Pictogram minus.png 0
  • Cp_orange has been added to competetive map pool Pictogram plus.png 4 | Pictogram minus.png 0
  • Fixed a bug where killing another player will result in anger of killed player Pictogram plus.png 3 | Pictogram minus.png 0
  • Fixed Sniper's piss which was incorrectly yellow instead of red Pictogram plus.png 4 | Pictogram minus.png 0
  • Heavy's miniguns and SMG's can now overheat Pictogram plus.png 3 | Pictogram minus.png 0
  • 01101000 01110100 01110100 01110000 01110011 00111010 00101111 00101111 01110111 01101001 01101011 01101001 00101110 01110100 01100101 01100001 01101101 01100110 01101111 01110010 01110100 01110010 01100101 01110011 01110011 00101110 01100011 01101111 01101101 00101111 01110111 01101001 01101011 01101001 00101111 01010101 01110011 01100101 01110010 00111010 01000110 01101001 01100001 01110100 01011111 01010011 01100101 01101001 01100011 01100101 01101110 01110100 01101111 00101111 01110011 01100101 01100011 01110010 01100101 01110100 (Link to here) (could also be a QR code) Pictogram plus.png 1 | Pictogram minus.png 1 Pictogram nope.png Nope

Killicon hhg.pngFiatSeicentoKillicon hhg.png 20:41, 21 March 2020 (UTC)

Most of these are good except the party and covid pandemic. For these I would like some changes. Keep in mind that keeping them on the same team is already the option, you may mean to have them not on the team. And for COVID-19, how about "players can't get within 10 feet of each other" instead of all matches suspended? Naleksuh (talk) 20:45, 21 March 2020 (UTC)
Personally I'm in favour of suspending the matches instead of being 1,5m from each other.
GrampaSwood (talk) 21:43, 21 March 2020 (UTC)
Hmmm, perhaps it would be better as a banner instead of a patch note, as it would be out of place then. Naleksuh (talk) 19:02, 22 March 2020 (UTC)
"Artifact promotional items" Only if someone is willing to actually create them (eg.: Ricochet 2 promo items). — Tark lm(pt-br) 19:58, 22 March 2020 (UTC)
Not really. We don't need to repeat the same steps from previous April fools events. If we ever go to the point of making pages for these "so-called" Artifact promotional items, we mark them as "unused content" that was only found on tf_english.txt with no materials/models, problem solved. User Gabrielwoj Signature Icon.png - User Gabrielwoj Signature 1.pngUser Gabrielwoj Signature 2.png - User Gabrielwoj Signature 3.png 22:25, 22 March 2020 (UTC)

Denied's changes

  • Fixed a bug causing the community to constantly complain about the game being dead. Pictogram plus.png 4 | Pictogram minus.png 1 Pictogram tick.png Added
  • Added the Spring Cleaning Cosmetic Case<ref>Currently cannot be opened, because the key used to open it wasn't implemented to the game yet</ref> Pictogram plus.png 0 | Pictogram minus.png 0 Pictogram nope.png Nope

User Denied signature.jpg Denied (Talk) 20:57, 21 March 2020 (UTC)

"Spring Cleaning Cosmetic Case" would imply an update. We will need at least some joke items, maps, etc. — Tark lm(pt-br) 19:58, 22 March 2020 (UTC)

Gabrielwoj's ideas

I've made these long ago, somewhere in February. They are how it'd look on a patch note, so some items have "extra items" below them:

  • Introducing the Unusual Trade Up system
    • Players can now change 5 untradable Gen I and Gen III Unusuals in exchange to a tradable Gen II Unusual Pictogram plus.png 4 | Pictogram minus.png 0
  • Fixed a bug that certain crates weren't giving a 100% guarantee Unusual upon opening it Pictogram plus.png 5 | Pictogram minus.png 0 Pictogram tick.png Added
  • Updated the Vote System
    • Players can no longer vote while playing on plr_hightower and plr_hightower_event Pictogram plus.png 4 | Pictogram minus.png 0
  • Weapon changes
    • Market Gardener: Now a reskin to the Shovel
      • Developer notes: We felt that players wielding the Market Gardener was forgeting the core mechanics of TF2, the teamplay. Many players with the Market Gardner would completely forget their teammates, and go just for the Twitch clips. We are still keeping the models and textures untouched, but the weapon now works exactly like the Shovel Pictogram plus.png 4 | Pictogram minus.png 0
    • Phlogistinator: Added back full heatlh refill upon using MMPH
      • Developer notes: We felt that the Phlogistinator wasn't very powerful yet, so we are adding more buffs to it Pictogram plus.png 2 | Pictogram minus.png 0

* Added two new Bot names

Regarding the items, we'll need to contact the creators beforehand. — Tark lm(pt-br) 19:58, 22 March 2020 (UTC)
Why? I'm sure item creators will be more than happy for having their items advertised in any way on the Wiki. Plus, we don't need to have each page for each new cosmetic with an image preview because the Wiki doesn't have everything set up on the first day, it usually takes some time for people to add info to it, no need if the stuff we're putting on this update is all fake. The Dab taunt isn't even on the Workshop, people will figure out it's fake as soon they click on the video and read the intro. User Gabrielwoj Signature Icon.png - User Gabrielwoj Signature 1.pngUser Gabrielwoj Signature 2.png - User Gabrielwoj Signature 3.png 22:25, 22 March 2020 (UTC)
The wiki is not for advertisement and we nor Valve "own" these items. Period.
Also, I'd rather not host this event if all we'll be doing is just create a bunch of fake patchnotes and treat the cool stuff as "we just found this on tf_english.txt, but can't create a page right now, sorry :D". — Tark lm(pt-br) 03:48, 26 March 2020 (UTC)
Not to sound mean or anything, but I feel like this one isn't going anywhere. As Tarko said, it's just a bunch of fake patchnotes, most of them not even being that good, and that's pretty much all we have. Unless someone comes up with some really cool extra stuff for the event, I'd be in favour of skipping it as well. The prank could be that there is no prank. Killicon flaming huntsman.png VasyaTheWizard (talk) • (contributions) 06:15, 26 March 2020 (UTC)
Yeah I'm in full agreement with Tark on that one, I just didn't know how to word it. However, I feel like in addition to these patch notes there can also possibly be item pages, which might make it a bit cooler. There will also be a COVID-19 banner, edited homepage, and (possibly) some YouTube videos. So I think it's a bit more than some patch notes. Does that make it a better april fools? Naleksuh (talk) 07:57, 26 March 2020 (UTC)
Personally, I think a corona theme would be nice. However, I can't do any of the editing of the main page but I could give some ideas.
GrampaSwood (talk) 09:01, 26 March 2020 (UTC)

* New 02-22-2020: Added Smash Bros. promotional item

    • The Battle Ballot - Awarded in Genuine quality for those who pre-purchase Heavy as a DLC fighter in Super Smash Bros. Ultimate. Pictogram plus.png 1 | Pictogram minus.png 0 Pictogram nope.png Nope

Note from the author suggestion: The Smash Bros. promo item would work well if Nintendo doesn't announce any new character on the game before April 1st, although there's rumors that there might be a Nintendo Direct soon.

Note 2: Because it's a purchase from a store that isn't Steam, probably there should be a mention saying that players who purchased Heavy in Smash should redeem the code that comes with the purchase.

Nintendo is very protective with their IPs, I'd rather not. — Tark lm(pt-br) 19:58, 22 March 2020 (UTC)
It's a joke, it's not meant to be real information. If anything, discard the part about "buying the Fighter Pass Vol. 2" so people won't buy it thinking they'll get the item. Everyone is going to stop at "buy Heavy DLC" because (most likely) there'll be none. User Gabrielwoj Signature Icon.png - User Gabrielwoj Signature 1.pngUser Gabrielwoj Signature 2.png - User Gabrielwoj Signature 3.png 22:25, 22 March 2020 (UTC)
I did acquired permission and taunt files from the creator of the Lab Rats Dab taunt. Naleksuh (talk) 03:00, 26 March 2020 (UTC)
That's great. Are you able to make a fake taunt page for it? I think that'd be really cool. — Tark lm(pt-br) 03:48, 26 March 2020 (UTC)
Yeah that should be very easy. A taunt demonstration YouTube video would be harder but still possible. Naleksuh (talk) 07:57, 26 March 2020 (UTC)

Gabrielwoj's ideas (Part 2)

After consideration, this suggestion is removed as it is the only content in the entire patch notes that WILL actually happen. However, the page for said event, along with its content, is planned to be on the wiki regardless. Bot Rot (talk) 03:03, 28 March 2020 (UTC)

Naleksuh's ideas

  • Fixed a bug where Heavy could take damage Pictogram plus.png 3 | Pictogram minus.png 0
  • Added the tenth class Pictogram plus.png 2 | Pictogram minus.png 0
  • Removed 2fort Pictogram plus.png 1 | Pictogram minus.png 2
  • Added a vote to enable cheats Pictogram plus.png 3 | Pictogram minus.png 0
  • Removed the ability to join community servers Pictogram plus.png 1 | Pictogram minus.png 1

I feel like the last one falls under something that addresses a problem in TF2, there's been a problem with community servers declining in the last few years.
GrampaSwood (talk) 08:14, 22 March 2020 (UTC)

Dereko personally dislike the last one, as it sounds more creepy instead of funny. User Dereko Name.png 13:36, 26 March 2020 (UTC)

Dereko's ideas

  • You can now type "heavyisdead" in the console to suicide. Pictogram plus.png 1 | Pictogram minus.png 0

BrazilianNut's ideas

  • Fixed an issue where the Spy would be unable to attack enemies or attach sappers to buildings while invisible Pictogram plus.png 0 | Pictogram minus.png 1
  • Sappers can now be attached to sappers Pictogram plus.png 2 | Pictogram minus.png 0
Undocumented changes
or the plain but good and old

* Updated the localization files. Pictogram plus.png 0 | Pictogram minus.png 1 Pictogram nope.png Nope. Duplicate, see above

I have removed the top two, which violate Tark's rules. Rest are cool though. Naleksuh (talk) 04:04, 27 March 2020 (UTC)

Tekinz's idea

* Added an official new taunt for the Scout

    • The Dustbowl Default Pictogram plus.png 2 | Pictogram minus.png 0 Pictogram tick.png Added. Please improve the description a little bit.

I've prepared a few images and a joke demonstration video to create a page for this april fools joke.
I currently have a concept in my sandbox at User:Tekinz/Sandbox/AF2020 though I'm not sure how to create a proper page for the idea.I'm sure we'll be able to get
this working if someone experienced were to take some of these assets and put them together only thing missing right now is a Summary, trivia, and some touch ups.

I think it would be best if the demonstration was serious, like all other demonstrations, except containing a joke taunt. Sort of like how the circular circlesaw demonstration was. If you send me the taunt files, I could take care of that for you. Naleksuh (talk) 00:49, 28 March 2020 (UTC)
I'd prefer to keep the current video instead as the joke is built around being silly and absurd. E.g. the victory royale image I made is completely out of place and informal which is generally what I'm going for. I believe it would be more enjoyable to have this fake taunt page not taken seriously/formally. Tekinz (talk) 01:52, 28 March 2020 (UTC)
Also I should mention that there is already The Lab Rats Dab taunt which will have a regular demonstration. If there is a second one, shouldn't it be like the first? If this particular version is used though, I don't think there will be a huge problem. Naleksuh (talk) 02:02, 28 March 2020 (UTC)
While I do favor having continuity, overall I don't think these issues should matter too much as it is all a joke. I enjoy my current video as it acts like a small trick, deceving the viewer into believing it was a standard demonstration. Something to say dang I got fooled ya' know? Tekinz (talk) 02:22, 28 March 2020 (UTC)

404UNF's Idea

  • "We heard your cries and we have the answer. To solve the current overwhelming number of aimbots, we decided to level the playing field by removing Valve Anti-Cheat from Team Fortress 2. Now everyone can cheat!" Pictogram plus.png 0 | Pictogram minus.png 1
    • It can't be something related with the current TF2 problems. User Denied signature.jpg Denied (Talk) 06:36, 29 March 2020 (UTC)

Patch page

It appears Tark created an April 1, 2020 patch just a couple minutes before mine. However, I believe that mine is formatted better and more accurately reflects the discussions here. Is it possible to merge them? Naleksuh (talk) 22:41, 28 March 2020 (UTC)
And now Tark has also decided to delete the other one because authoritarianism Naleksuh (talk) 22:42, 28 March 2020 (UTC)
It's an official page and Tark's page is on his own user domain. It's not authoritarianism it's that you created it a good 11 minutes later.
GrampaSwood (talk) 22:44, 28 March 2020 (UTC)