Talk:Galleria

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What American is not going to call it a Zamboni ...

... even from the famous scene in Rocky.

"An ice resurfacer is often referred to by its genericized trademark, a "Zamboni"."

I was going to change "ice resurfacer" to the very much more common "Zamboni", but it seem the proper thing to do is confirm Trivia that Valve required the voice lines to be redone to avoid Trademark conflict.

M I K 🎄 D O 1 8 Ho Ho Ho .🦌🦌🦌🦌🦌🎅 (contact)(Help Wanted!) 20:39, 10 December 2023 (UTC)

I've never heard anyone use Zamboni before, I think it should stay as ice resurfacer. Based on the topic name it also seems to be a US-only thing, which we should avoid.
BLU Wiki Cap.png | s | GrampaSwood Praise the Sun! (talk) (contribs) 20:45, 10 December 2023 (UTC)

Gallery & posters

I think we should remove some of the posters currently in the Gallery, most of them aren't really notable for anything Trivia-related and it just seems like a bit of a texture dump at the moment. The Gallery is probably takes over 50% of the page at this point.
BLU Wiki Cap.png | s | GrampaSwood Praise the Sun! (talk) (contribs) 13:35, 28 December 2023 (UTC)

Maybe remove all that locate out of the playable area and also don't have a reference? Profiteer(奸商)the tryhard (talk) 13:39, 28 December 2023 (UTC)
I say we keep the movie posters with clear real-life equivalents, which are already on display in the gallery, and anything else deemed necessary as referential material (I see we've already made mention of the Eric Smith door elsewhere, for example), but we don't need most of the mall signs or the computer readout texture, and things like that to be displayed on this article in particular, if you ask me. We can move the signs to something like the Companies article, as secondary images for the companies in question. — User ThatHatGuy Signature Icon.png 06:02, 29 December 2023 (UTC)
Yeah, the movie posters are fine, it's mostly the non-movie posters and company signs.
BLU Wiki Cap.png | s | GrampaSwood Praise the Sun! (talk) (contribs) 12:53, 29 December 2023 (UTC)
There's value in the company signs, I just don't think it all has to be shown here. I maintain that we should move them to the Companies article, especially the ones for new businesses featured only in the mall, like Barney's Book Shop, and Crummy's Burgers & Malts; those are new businesses in officially-accepted media now, they should have a column on the companies page, and we can use the signs for existing businesses, like Conquistador Fried Giblets, as alternate logos. — User ThatHatGuy Signature Icon.png 04:08, 30 December 2023 (UTC)
It was a lot of images, yes, but not necessarily a texture dump, as we can all see most make confirmed tributes or historical references. There just hasn't been the stolen time for me to deal with all of them yet.
  • We also see that within the texture files that Profiteer recovered that a number of images are much higher quality than viewable in game; so, it conforms to our usefulness charter to provide users access to the better forms in some way.
  • I had already intended to move a select few to the right side of Trivia to reduce the gallery size a little, but that location would be a better context for certain images.
  • Furthermore, thanks to Profiteer's effort, they are all available for use (maybe some uses that present editors have not seen yet) so I can link them where they can be used.
What is to be done? Thoughts to broader solutions should be considered, because large numbers of quality and notable images are not a transient thing. We should expect quantities high quality art textures, tributes and references. I think we can accommodate this movement. I have some suggestions:
  1. Generously download art, posters, and signs from Community and new Valve maps, companies or not. If these can have a place in this wiki, a Community map's quality art can have a place closely associated with the map's page.
  2. Naturally, that map's image category is a simple enough and well-worn way to collect the images.
  3. When there are several signs in the category that can't fit into the Gallery then a hatnote can be added to the direct readers to the image category; e.g.,
    For additional images see Category:Galleria images
  4. Following the Community map strategies example, an additional subpage could be made for large galleries, so that the large number of images could be curated (sorted and captioned) without cluttering the main article; e.g.,
    For additional images see Galleria/Images
@ThatHatGuy': I have certain agreement with not adding Community map company signs to Companies; same with not adding Community map signs to Signs. Regardless of any question of Canonicity, with 3-4 events a year each adding 3-7 Community maps each adding 10-30 worthy images, List of Companies and List of Signs will explode. I say keep the Community map images close to the Community Map pages where they clearly belong at a minimum (according to the above suggestions,).
M I K 🎄 D O 1 8 Ho Ho Ho .🦌🦌🦌🦌🦌🎅 (contact)(Help Wanted!) 04:30, 30 December 2023 (UTC)