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With info about Vintage and Unusual etc? {{n}}[[User:Smashman|<span class="bur">Smashman</span>]]<sub>&nbsp;([[User_talk:Smashman|talk]])</sub> {{bur}} 23:35, 1 October 2010 (UTC)
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:{{c|Support}}: Never heard of Unusual, though. -[[User:The Neotank|<font color="#FF8C00">'''The Neotank'''</font>]]&nbsp;({{mod}}<small> | [[User talk:The Neotank|Talk]]</small>) [[File:User The Neotank Signeotank.jpg]] 23:37, 1 October 2010 (UTC)
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::{{c}} [[Crate]]. {{n}}[[User:Smashman|<span class="bur">Smashman</span>]]<sub>&nbsp;([[User_talk:Smashman|talk]])</sub> {{bur}} 23:55, 1 October 2010 (UTC)
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:{{c|Support}} I say yes. There are quite a few different types now of rarity. Normal, common, uncommon/rare, community, valve, vintage, "Mann Co crate purple rare", and "Mann Co crate ultra rare". A handy style table would be lovely. [[File:Infisig.png|60x60px|link=User:Infi^|Infi^]] {{adm}} 23:58, 1 October 2010 (UTC)
 
 
 
There are alot of players wanting to get rid of their rare hats now, possibly due to having traded alot to apprehend them for themselves, be on the lookout if you want to get them yourselves.<small>--''The preceding unsigned comment was added by'' [[User:FPSAndy|FPSAndy]] ([[User talk:FPSAndy|talk]]) • [[Special:Contributions/FPSAndy|contribs]]) </small>
 
 
 
== Unusual effects ==
 
 
 
Reminder to self, create table with the different effects possible. ([http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1461352]) --[[User:Firestorm|<font color="#FF6600"><tt><big><u>'''Firestorm'''</u></big></tt></font>]] {{mod}} 23:41, 2 October 2010 (UTC)
 
::There's a currently unused particle effect "Circling Skull". I just thought I'd like to point that out [[User:Nanosheep|(nanosheep_inc)]] 12:29, 22 October 2010 (UTC)
 
 
 
== Unusual Hats Gallery ==
 
 
 
As you can probably tell, we don't have many images and the images are poor quality. If anyone who has an Unusual hat could send me a link to a high-quality picture of their Unusual hat, they will be immortalized on the Wiki! (It's awesome, honest).
 
 
 
Before sending me a picture, be sure to check the page to make sure a better image isn't already on there.
 
 
 
For effects that only surround the hat, a head-and-shoulders picture on a blank background would be best. Taunts are fine as long as they don't obscure the effect.
 
 
 
For effects that surround the player, a full-body picture at a slightly downward angle of the class is best. Again, taunts are fine, but please make sure the effect is visible in front and slightly to the side, to show that it circles the class.
 
 
 
Send me the link either here, on my userpage or by sending me a steam message --[[User:Firestorm|<font color="#FF6600"><tt><big><u>'''Firestorm'''</u></big></tt></font>]] {{mod}} 20:34, 5 October 2010 (UTC)
 
:I'll take a screencap of my Unusual hat. :) -- [[User:En_Ex|En Ex]] {{bur}}  <sub>([[User_talk:En_Ex|talk]])</sub> 07:02, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
 
::Do you think we could be ambitious enough to document every ''possible unusual hat combination'' and post its image here? [[User:Nanosheep|(nanosheep_inc)]] 14:21, 21 October 2010 (UTC)
 
 
 
== Random leveled weapons? ==
 
 
 
Perhaps a note about random leveled weapons. eg Period when they dropped, what they are etc...
 
--[[User:Riz|Riz]] 14:41, 12 October 2010 (UTC)
 
:While they are rare, they don't have a unique item quality. The information on randomly leveled items can be found [[Item levels|here]]. -- [[User:Pilk|Pilk]] <sub>([[User talk:Pilk|talk]])</sub> 14:43, 12 October 2010 (UTC)
 
 
 
== Can we get the effect's code numbers back? ==
 
 
 
When looking at someone's backpack on tf2items or other backpack examiners all you see is the number of the effect, not any sort of descriptor. I used to come here to find what the effect actually was, but suddenly it's just a number, not the actual code. (also, why does it start at 6?)<small>--''The preceding unsigned comment was added by'' [[User:FPSAndy|FPSAndy]] ([[User talk:FPSAndy|talk]]) • [[Special:Contributions/FPSAndy|contribs]]) </small>
 
:When I look on TF2Items, TF2B or OPTF2 I see the effect's name, not a number.  And the article does list the effects and their numbers, so I'm not sure what your comment is about.-[[User:RJackson|<span style="background-color:#FF0000;color:white;font-size:0.7em;padding: 0 2px;">RJ</span>]]{{mod}} 13:06, 18 October 2010 (UTC)
 
 
 
== Unusual Amount. ==
 
 
 
There are 63 Possible hats at the moment that can have Unusual Effects. Hatless and Ol' Snaggletooth are not 'Unusual Able'. There are also 14 effects currently in the game. I've corrected the number accordingly.
 
6*14=882
 
[[User:Spar13|Spar13]] 22:24, 18 October 2010 (UTC)
 
 
 
:Can we get a list of which hats are 'Unusual Able'? [[User:AileTheAlien|AileTheAlien]] 26:00, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
 
 
 
== Rare/Common/Normal Weapons ==
 
 
 
There are variants of developers weapons with rarity like "Rare", "Common" and "Normal" - should they be added here too? Should the [[Developer weapons]] page be merged with this page? [[User:BarnabasHale|BarnabasHale]] 11:08, 20 October 2010 (UTC)
 
 
 
==Standard Items section==
 
This section in regards to the quality + use of nametags is technically incorrect. The Items now viewable as part of the name-tag system are already assigned unique quality and are discrete items with their own definition indicies, aka "upgradable" weapons. "Standard" items (retaining their original quality) are still not present in backpacks.
 
Should this distinction be made, or would it be considered too technical for the purview of the article? [[User:Ath|Ath]] 22:15, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
 
: No, I agree completely and didn't notice this before. Thanks. -- [[User:Lagg|Lagg]] [[File:Backpack_Stickybomb_Launcher.png|24px|link=User:Lagg]] 12:01, 30 October 2010 (UTC)
 
 
 
== "Failure" Crafting Two Unusuals... ==
 
 
 
I think it should state that any two unusuals crafted together yeild a Normal hat not an Unusual vice-versa with an unusual batters as its used with two bonks. [[User:Gamecrazy009|Gamecrazy009]] 09:15, 31 October 2010 (UTC)
 
 
 
== Gallery? In my Unusuals? ==
 
 
 
Should we keep adding Pictures of other unusuals not listed? or just the effects, ive got two friends with Bonk Helm Confetti and pananma energy :l [[User:Gamecrazy009|Gamecrazy009]] 21:51, 2 November 2010 (UTC)
 
:We have a picture of every effect. Don't think we need 896 pictures of every hat with every effect :P [[User:Moussekateer|Moussekateer]] 22:05, 2 November 2010 (UTC)
 
 
 
== Unusual Hat Possibilities ==
 
 
 
{{Template:User_hat_checklist
 
|batters helmet=yes
 
|bonk helm=yes
 
|baker boy=yes
 
|beanie=yes
 
|whoopee cap=yes
 
|scout hatless=no
 
|milkman=yes
 
|bombing run=yes
 
|stash=yes
 
|tyrant helm=yes
 
|stainless pot=yes
 
|kabuto=yes
 
|drill hat=yes
 
|lumbricus=no
 
|softcap=yes
 
|chief=yes
 
|shako=yes
 
|topper=yes
 
|medal=no
 
|pyro beanie=yes
 
|brigade helmet=yes
 
|rubber glove=yes
 
|brain slug=yes
 
|merryweather=yes
 
|whiskered gentleman=no
 
|attendant=yes
 
|old=yes
 
|napper=yes
 
|handyman=yes
 
|fro=yes
 
|stovepipe=yes
 
|bonnet=yes
 
|hallmark=yes
 
|tricorne=yes
 
|stuntman=yes
 
|capotain=yes
 
|raincatcher=yes
 
|football helmet=yes
 
|ushanka=yes
 
|toque=yes
 
|hound dog=yes
 
|heavy duty rag=yes
 
|protector=yes
 
|hard counter=yes
 
|cranium=yes
 
|mining light=yes
 
|ten gallon=yes
 
|hotrod=yes
 
|safe=yes
 
|hatless engineer=no
 
|engineer cap=yes
 
|pickelhaube=yes
 
|tyrolean=yes
 
|mirror=yes
 
|gatsby=yes
 
|goggles=yes
 
|procedure mask=no
 
|trophy belt=yes
 
|panama=yes
 
|sola topi=yes
 
|bucket hat=yes
 
|yellow belt=yes
 
|sniper hatless=no
 
|snaggletooth=yes
 
|fedora=yes
 
|billycock=yes
 
|spy mullet=yes
 
|frenchmans beret=yes
 
|camera beard=no
 
|fez=yes
 
|halo=no
 
|gibus=no
 
|gibus2=no
 
|halloween=no
 
|bill hat=no
 
|max=no
 
|modest=yes
 
|noble=yes
 
|towering=yes
 
|earbuds=no
 
|parasite=no
 
|mannco=no
 
|ellis=no
 
|wikicap=no
 
|polycount pin=no
 
|hhhh=no
 
|voodoo=no
 
|headsplitter=yes
 
|skull=no
 
|scout mask=no
 
|soldier mask=no
 
|pyro mask=no
 
|demoman mask=no
 
|heavy mask=no
 
|engineer mask=no
 
|medic mask=no
 
|sniper mask=no
 
|spy mask=no
 
|saxton mask=no
 
|badge=no
 
|duelbadge=no
 
 
}}
 
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So I thought it would be easier to keep track of which hats are 'unusual-able' and which are not in a table like this. Obtained means yes they can be found, unobtained means no they can't. From what I understand no unusual promo/misc/hatless hats can be found. The Horrific Headsplitter and Cadaver's Cranium I am not 100% sure about, but I see no reason logically why they can't be. As you can see, I believe there are currently 66 'unusual-able' hats. [[User:Moussekateer|Moussekateer]] 19:22, 3 November 2010 (UTC)
 
 
:Impressive :D, but isnt the Texas Slim Unusual as well? ive seen someone with sunshine effect (lol) [[User:Gamecrazy009|Gamecrazy009]] 21:49, 4 November 2010 (UTC)
 
::I don't know I haven't seen an unusual hatless in game and I keep reading that they can't exist. I'd love to see some evidence otherwise. [[User:Moussekateer|Moussekateer]] 23:42, 4 November 2010 (UTC)
 
== "Normal" items is incorrect ==
 
As we've seen ingame, in the backpack, "normal" items are called "stock" items. Given that that is a fact, should we change that bit of article to reflect this? [[User:TomReeds|TomReeds]] 01:12, 14 November 2010 (UTC)
 
:I see your point but the first line of the 'Normal' section states 'Normal items are also called 'stock' items.' [[User:Moussekateer|Moussekateer]] 01:15, 14 November 2010 (UTC)
 
: Calling them Normal is correct and this will not be changed. Internally the quality for normal/stock items is localized to "Normal", you simply don't see it in game. See http://optf2.com/item/from_schema/1 -- [[User:Lagg|Lagg]] [[File:Backpack_Stickybomb_Launcher.png|24px|link=User_talk:Lagg]] 01:20, 14 November 2010 (UTC)
 
 
== What about not used types? ==
 
Sorry for my english, but what about "Rare" and "Common" rarity? (http://www.tf2items.com/id/jlesamiz?time=1256873790 ).
 
Will it mention in article? [[User:Darmarok|Darmarok]] 09:22, 14 November 2010 (UTC)
 
: This page is about qualities, and I believe what you are referring to as Common and Rare are already described under different names. -- [[User:Lagg|Lagg]] [[File:Backpack_Stickybomb_Launcher.png|24px|link=User_talk:Lagg]] 09:27, 14 November 2010 (UTC)
 
::Actually, Common and Rare were separate from Unique and Unusual and all that. Though they never seem to end up outside of Valve employees or the like. Usually had absurd stats, much like the Valve quality weapons, when they were first spotted. --[[User:Vaught|<span style="text-shadow:pink 0px 0px 3px;"><font color=" #FFA6C9"><tt><big>'''Vaught'''</big></tt></font>]]</span> 09:33, 14 November 2010 (UTC)
 
::: I'm aware of that, but they are no longer in any of the localization files or the schema because they've been replaced by the normal and Valve qualities. There's no reason to document them if they no longer exist. -- [[User:Lagg|Lagg]] [[File:Backpack_Stickybomb_Launcher.png|24px|link=User_talk:Lagg]] 09:43, 14 November 2010 (UTC)
 
:::: For history, maybe? [[User:Darmarok|Darmarok]] 10:04, 14 November 2010 (UTC)
 

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