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== Should this be mentioned? ==
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While I was rummaging through the weapon files, when I looked at the Medigun file, it says that it deals 24 damage. But as you know already, it only HEALS. Should this be mentioned in the Trivia? [[User:AbeX300|AbeX300]] 18:26, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
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: There's a lot of random, un-noteworthy outdated/unused/development stuff in the weapon files. I wouldn't add it. -- [[User:Nineaxis|<span style="color:#FF8C00;font-weight:bold">Nineaxis</span>]] {{mod}} [[File:User Nineaxis sig duck.png|12px]] 18:30, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
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::''From 10 to 15 seconds, this rate increases linearly from '''24''' up to a maximum of 72 health per second.'' Maybe you read it wrong? --[[User:Picard|Picard]] {{loc|de}} 18:35, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
 
::: @Nineaxis If that's the case, why is there a mention on Jarate about it's 5-Damage? @Picard I suppose. I'll check it out by changing the "damage". [[User:AbeX300|AbeX300]] 18:38, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
 
:::: Alright, I tested out on changing the damage. Apparently, it is the heal rate. Thanks Picard for telling me. [[User:AbeX300|AbeX300]] 18:42, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
 
::::About the Jarate, why don't you try throwing it directly on an enemy, then check its health? -- [[User:Vi3trice|<font color=#771d6d>'''Vi3trice'''</font>]] {{adm}} <sub>([[User_talk:Vi3trice|talk]])</sub> 18:44, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
 
:::::Errr, yeah. Normally, I would test it myself, but I crafted my only Jarate. -- [[User:Vi3trice|<font color=#771d6d>'''Vi3trice'''</font>]] {{adm}} <sub>([[User_talk:Vi3trice|talk]])</sub> 19:05, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
 
:::::: It doesn't do damage --[[User:Firestorm|<font color="#FF6600"><tt><big><u>'''Firestorm'''</u></big></tt></font>]] {{mod}} 19:21, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
 
:::::::If it did, it would add a new sense to "it hurts when I pee". -- [[User:Vi3trice|<font color=#771d6d>'''Vi3trice'''</font>]] {{adm}} <sub>([[User_talk:Vi3trice|talk]])</sub> 19:24, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
 
 
 
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== Requested move ==
 
:{{c|note}}: A month has passed since the rename was proposed, however, it is clear that a consensus has not yet been reached. I'd ask that everyone who has participated in the discussion above re-evaluate their position before a final decision is made. [[User:Seb26|<font color="#0B61A4">'''seb26'''</font>]] [[User talk:Seb26|<span style="font-size:95%;">[talk]</span>]] 10:35, 18 September 2010 (UTC)
 
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This quote should help those still undecided to make their decision. -- [[User:Benjamuffin|'''Benjamuffin''']] [[File:BenjamuffinSig.png|Om nom nom!]] 05:22, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
 
{{Quotation|'''Robin Walker''' on titles/weapon names|Looking at the in-game localization text, I can see we’re already inconsistent ourselves, so I don’t think it’s a big issue. I’d pick whichever one you want to go with, and call it that. If you get nitpickers complaining about it, add a note to the pages saying that the game itself is inconsistent.}}
 
 
 
'''Medigun vs Medi Gun'''
 
 
 
This one is probably more controversial than other move requests. In-game, in the backpack/inventory this weapon is referred to as the Medi Gun. However in the tips section it is referred to as a "medigun". This is an example of Valve being rather inconsistent. Should this page be moved to [[Medi Gun]]?
 
:{{C|Support}} I think we should go with what's official in-game, not what we think intuitively should be correct. -- [[User:Pilk|Pilk]] <sub>([[User talk:Pilk|talk]])</sub> 15:58, 17 August 2010 (UTC)
 
:{{C|Support}}: Probably short for "Medical gun" --[[User:Firestorm|<font color="#FF6600"><tt><big><u>'''Firestorm'''</u></big></tt></font>]] {{mod}} 16:01, 17 August 2010 (UTC)
 
:{{C|Support}}: We should match what is displayed in-game. -- [[User:Nineaxis|<span style="color:#FF8C00;font-weight:bold">Nineaxis</span>]] {{mod}} [[File:User Nineaxis sig duck.png|12px]] 16:43, 17 August 2010 (UTC)
 
:{{C|Support}} [http://www.tf2items.com/id/jlesamiz?time=1256873790 JL's Backpack] also says Medi Gun, so I think we should move it. --[[User:Picard|Picard]] {{loc|de}} 18:44, 17 August 2010 (UTC)
 
:{{C|Support}}: -[[User:Shine|<font color="#666666">'''Shine'''</font>]]&nbsp;({{mod}}) 01:08, 18 August 2010 (UTC)
 
:{{C|Neutral}}: While I think you guys are right, a change like this would be annoying because the community pretty much always calls it the "Medigun." -[[User:The Neotank|<font color="#FF8C00">'''The Neotank'''</font>]]&nbsp;({{mod}}<small> | [[User talk:The Neotank|Talk]]</small>) [[File:User The Neotank Signeotank.jpg]] 01:20, 18 August 2010 (UTC)
 
:{{C|Neutral}}: Am fine with either, just used to type Medigun. Oh well, bot can clean stuff up :3 </shameless plug> — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] {{adm}} 01:27, 18 August 2010 (UTC)
 
:{{C|Support}}: I don't see where Valve refers to it as the "Medigun" other than the names of its model and textures.--[[User:Nelson340|Nelson340]] 21:36, 19 August 2010 (UTC)
 
:{{C|Support}}: If the backpack uses two words, so should we.--[[User:Piemanmoo|Piemanmoo]] 19:20, 25 August 2010 (UTC)
 
:{{C|Support}}: per the reasons above. [[User:MK|MK]] 06:36, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
 
:{{C|Oppose}}: Medigun seems more tidy to me. You might as well just call it the Medic Gun if you're planning to go all the way.--[[User:Focusknock|Focusknock]] 17:19, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
 
:{{C|Oppose}}: Like flamethrower, even though this is how it's written in the loadout menu, "medigun" is used almost exclusively everywhere else. [[User:Dragonsbrethren|Dragonsbrethren]] 20:44, 10 September 2010 (UTC)
 
:{{C|Oppose}}: It's a medigun. It's a portmanteau of medic and gun. It no longer is a portmanteau when you have it as Medi Gun. Plus it looks odd. Here's another thought, what would gamers wanting to know more about the gun search for in Google? They'll search it like it appears in game, so to help SEO (and accessibility) ratings, just set it as Medigun. [[User:RogueDarkJedi|-- RogueDarkJedi]] 01:46, 11 September 2010 (UTC)
 
:: {{C}} It appears in-game as Medi Gun. Hence the discussion here. -- [[User:Nineaxis|<span style="color:#FF8C00;font-weight:bold">Nineaxis</span>]] {{mod}} [[File:User Nineaxis sig duck.png|12px]] 01:49, 11 September 2010 (UTC)
 
::: {{C}} Well, color me surprised. It's been awhile since I've played TF2. [[User:RogueDarkJedi|-- RogueDarkJedi]] 03:13, 11 September 2010 (UTC)
 
 
 
:{{c|comment}} Another week has passed...  I think it'd be best to drop the move suggestion and leave the article as is.  -[[User:RJackson|<span style="background-color:#FF0000;color:white;font-size:0.7em;padding: 0 2px;">RJ</span>]] 11:15, 26 September 2010 (UTC)
 
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{{c|Info}} It has been decided that the move will not go ahead for logistical reasons (too much work for such a minor change). -[[User:RJackson|<span style="background-color:#FF0000;color:white;font-size:0.7em;padding: 0 2px;">RJ</span>]] 13:55, 27 September 2010 (UTC)
 
 
 
== overheal with über ==
 
 
 
''* The Medigun overheals faster when an [[ubercharge]] is ready.''
 
 
 
 
 
Never heard that one, any citations? --[[User:CruelCow|CruelCow]] 12:42, 3 October 2010 (UTC)
 
 
 
:No. It isn't true. With Uber ready it takes roughly 9.5 seconds to get a Soldier from 18 health to 300 health. This time differs ''slightly'' without it ready to 9.6 seconds, although I'm accounting this for human error (phone stopwatch ftw!). Hopefully, I'm a reliable enough source for you, Mr. Cow. ;-) --[[User:Leftism|Leftism]] 12:40, 11 October 2010 (UTC)
 
 
 
== Bug ==
 
Is it a bug that the Medi Gun can no longer overheal targets on a dispenser or cart since the addition of the QuickFix or is that an "as intended" breaking of the game? <small>— ''The preceding unsigned comment was added by'' '''[[User:Marid|Marid]]''' ([[User talk:Marid|talk]]) • ([[Special:Contributions/Marid|contribs]]) 22:39, 25 July 2011</small>
 
 
 
It's A bug and has been fixed. Overheal can be applied with other healing devices. [[User:GOLDENTRIANGLES|GOLDENTRIANGLES]] 16:40, 3 September 2011 (PDT)GOLDENTRIANGLES
 
 
 
==No Weapon Demonstration==
 
Why isnt there an entry of this in the weapon demonstration project? It is a very major weapon it seems to be a diservice. also, how should it be formatted? we cant do the usual red pyro, soldier, medic, spy. [[User:Dr. Blutengott|Dr. Blutengott]] 08:26, 26 July 2011 (PDT)
 
 
 
==Strange Variant Section==
 
This section was removed, I have reincluded it for the time being. Should it be on the page? Please discuss. [[User:Dr. Blutengott|Dr. Blutengott]] 08:58, 3 September 2011 (PDT)
 
:I don't think it merits an entire section just for that - maybe a trivia note or something. '''» [[User:Cooper Kid|<span style="color:red">Coo</span><span style ="color:gray">per</span><span style ="color:blue"> Kid</span>]]''' <small>([[User_talk:Cooper Kid|blether]]'''·'''[[Special:Contributions/Cooper Kid|contreebs]])</small> 11:43, 3 September 2011 (PDT)
 
 
 
== Pipe or Hose? ==
 
 
 
On the main page it says "It is connected via a pipe to the Medic's backpack" I think it's more of a hose since pipes are usually not bendable. I changed word to hose. [[User:GOLDENTRIANGLES|GOLDENTRIANGLES]] 16:50, 3 September 2011 (PDT)GOLDENTRIANGLES
 
:Ok but that wasn't really necessary, pipes can be bent or straight in exactly the same way that hoses can. '''» [[User:Cooper Kid|<span style="color:red">Coo</span><span style ="color:gray">per</span><span style ="color:blue"> Kid</span>]]''' <small>([[User_talk:Cooper Kid|blether]]'''·'''[[Special:Contributions/Cooper Kid|contreebs]])</small> 17:03, 3 September 2011 (PDT)
 
::There is such a thing as a bent pipe, but that's the not important distinction. The main difference that GOLDENTRIANGLES was trying to get across was the flexibility of a hose versus the rigidity of a pipe. Pipes are generally fixed structures, unlike the wobbly thing the Medic has. I believe that "hose" is the right term here. -- [[Image:User Alex2539 Sig.png|47px|link=User:Alex2539|Alex2539]] - {{mod}} <sub>([[User_talk:Alex2539|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Alex2539|contribs]])</sub> -- 18:37, 3 September 2011 (PDT)
 
:::If pipes are rigid, why are pipe cleaners bendy? =P I know, I know, you're right, I'll be quiet now. '''» [[User:Cooper Kid|<span style="color:red">Coo</span><span style ="color:gray">per</span><span style ="color:blue"> Kid</span>]]''' <small>([[User_talk:Cooper Kid|blether]]'''·'''[[Special:Contributions/Cooper Kid|contreebs]])</small> 03:17, 4 September 2011 (PDT)
 
 
 
== Uber ==
 
 
 
a suggestion- it doesn't matter how much percent your uber is fill, you can still activate one. Lets say you were at 15%, then that's how long the uber would last just shorter.[[User:TubbyMonster|TubbyMonster]] 14:59, 2 May 2012 (PDT)
 

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