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I suggest we should state those items which ones are useful during a gameplay like the Disciplinary action for the soldier or the high five taunt or director's vision to scout around the corners.  
 
I suggest we should state those items which ones are useful during a gameplay like the Disciplinary action for the soldier or the high five taunt or director's vision to scout around the corners.  
 
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Any ideas or input? [[User:Ashes|Ashes]] ([[User talk:Ashes|talk]]) 22:11, 15 January 2015 (PST)
 
Any ideas or input? [[User:Ashes|Ashes]] ([[User talk:Ashes|talk]]) 22:11, 15 January 2015 (PST)
  
*I think the Bosses and Maps parts should be updated to contain a picture of the said boss or map, also I think we should insert a newer demonstration video, as of this is a quiet old one. And a side note, tag your posts. [[User:Kori1997|Kori1997]] ([[User talk:Kori1997|talk]]) 22:08, 15 January 2015 (PST)
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: I think the Bosses and Maps parts should be updated to contain a picture of the said boss or map, also I think we should insert a newer demonstration video, as of this is a quiet old one. And a side note, tag your posts. [[User:Kori1997|Kori1997]] ([[User talk:Kori1997|talk]]) 22:08, 15 January 2015 (PST)
  
== Underscoring sections. ==
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: Before I reedited it on 17:00, 1 March 2015 (PST), the grammar was horrid, missing period and "s" everywhere. If someone wants to redo this page, please do it correctly. [[User:Dark Prelate Mohandar|Dark Prelate Mohandar]] ([[User talk:Dark Prelate Mohandar|talk]]) 17:10 1 March 2015 (EST).
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:: Do note, Hinaomi was the one who reformatted the page, and english is their best language. So please do not be too aggressive regarding grammar and what not. [[User:Ashes|Ashes]] ([[User talk:Ashes|talk]]) 14:28, 1 March 2015 (PST)
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:: I am currently adding to the page every day, however, it may take a while as I only have 30 minutes to do it every day.  [[User:Dark Prelate Mohandar|Dark Prelate Mohandar]] ([[User talk:Dark Prelate Mohandar|talk]]) 22:32 1 March 2015 (EST).
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::: Keep in mind that a large part of the content of the page was removed as it's not part of the default mod. We shouldn't list every single boss or every single map that's available, as the content on each server can differ, whereas whatever is included in the mod by default should be consistent between servers. The default bosses/maps/class abilities are all that should be listed, really. The rest of the page still needs a massive overhaul, as it's hardly fitting with the rest of the wiki's style, and it looks quite messy. I think that it could really do with being remade by someone that knows the mod well, and can stick to the wiki's style.
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::: However, I'm still not really sure that this mod is notable enough to even have a page. I've just done a search for servers with "slender_" maps on Steam, and of the 21 servers I've found, only two of them had any people on them, and even then one of those servers only had 3 people on it. I personally only knew that this mod existed through edits on the page, as well. A few other opinions on this would needed before any action was taken, though. --[[User:Omolong|Omolong]] ([[User talk:Omolong|talk]]) 20:11, 1 March 2015 (PST)
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:::: You are wrong, my friend.  The Lunar Republic Gaming Server runs with over 20 people all the time, and Glubbale's servers have 4 slender fortress servers, each packed with at least 10 people at a time.  Another thing, most maps have Slender Man as the boss, but some have a specific boss (i.e. Weeping Angels on slender_weepers)  and also have a boss such as Woody every third round. [[User:Dark Prelate Mohandar|Dark Prelate Mohandar]] ([[User talk:Dark Prelate Mohandar|talk]])23:45 1 March 2015 (EST)
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::::: I don't really see how I'm wrong when [http://puu.sh/giRB7.png this] is what I saw when I searched for it. While it's likely that more people have joined the servers since I looked, at the time it was correct. In your image (which would have been fine on Imgur or something, it really didn't need uploading to the wiki), there are still less than 150 in total on those servers, which really doesn't make it that a popular mod. Additionally, I'm not sure what you're trying to point out with the second bit. If it's not part of the default content of the mod, it doesn't need to be included on the page. It doesn't matter what bosses turn up on custom maps, it only matters what bosses there are on the default maps. --[[User:Omolong|Omolong]] ([[User talk:Omolong|talk]]) 20:57, 1 March 2015 (PST)
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:::::: You looked in the wrong group.  The servers I have on my favorites are always populated with at least 5 people.  Lunar Republic and Glubbable's servers are the main groups that host this gamemode.  [[User:Dark Prelate Mohandar|Dark Prelate Mohandar]] ([[User talk:Dark Prelate Mohandar|talk]]) 0:03 2 March 2015 (EST)
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::::::: I didn't look in any group, I used the Servers window on Steam to search for any TF2 servers that had "slender_" in the map name. I waited until Steam stopped loading the servers before working out how many servers showed up in the list. --[[User:Omolong|Omolong]] ([[User talk:Omolong|talk]]) 21:21, 1 March 2015 (PST)
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:::::::: Not literal group, figurative group.  I meant the kind of servers that are always populated.  At least 6 have at least 20 people at any given time. [[User:Dark Prelate Mohandar|Dark Prelate Mohandar]] ([[User talk:Dark Prelate Mohandar|talk]]) 11:24 2 March 2015 (EST)
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::::::::: Ok so, two groups running servers. Ok that accounts for how much in the TF community... less than 1%. Only two groups are running active servers. So i don't see how its popular if its two groups running it. Compare it to the VSH mod. There's multiple servers/groups running it with active players. So i don't see how your argument really stands honestly. Even now i'm questioning the notability of Slender Fortress itself now. [[User:Ashes|Ashes]] ([[User talk:Ashes|talk]]) 08:46, 2 March 2015 (PST)
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:::::::::: It is still a popular gamemode, if you want to see gameplay, their are YouTube Channels nearly devoted to this gamemode. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCEuzizvleavS2VUo1fuROSg https://www.youtube.com/user/HinomaruGaming https://www.youtube.com/user/FestiveCoder/ [[User:Dark Prelate Mohandar|Dark Prelate Mohandar]] ([[User talk:Dark Prelate Mohandar|talk]]) 13:49 2 March 2015 (EST)
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{{Outdent|10}} I'm still not really seeing any evidence of it being that popular or notable. None of those three Youtube channels really have a notable number of views on the majority of videos, which does show that it's not that popular or notable. Additionally, I've noticed that a lot of your recent edits have added in bosses that don't seem to be part of the mod by default, so they shouldn't be on here at all. We should really only have the default bosses. Additionally, a lot of the content on the page isn't really written up to the standards of the wiki, and could do with being improved if the page is kept. Finally, the mod is full of content that comes from other games and mods, and I doubt that anybody ever got permission for most of the content. I'm not sure if there is an issue with including that sort of thing on here, though I would personally go on the side of caution and not include it. --[[User:Omolong|Omolong]] ([[User talk:Omolong|talk]]) 14:22, 4 March 2015 (PST)
  
I tested with underscores and I saw that it helped with the whole "word Wall" idea
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Well I agree that some of the bosses that are from other games/mods aren't really necessary, I will include some of the most popular bosses, such as Paranoia, Villar, Woody, SCP-173 and others.  I did not plan to write about all the bosses but particularly the special ones.  [[User:Dark Prelate Mohandar|Dark Prelate Mohandar]] ([[User talk:Dark Prelate Mohandar|talk]]) 20:00 5 March 2015 (EST)
  
ex: Subject here
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== Notability ==
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The Smissmas 2014 update was a major content update for Team Fortress 2, released on December 22, 2014 Patch. It was a sequel of past community-made updates before, by Valve's request in coincidence of the Christmas Workshop submissions.
 
The update added 28 new Winter-themed cosmetics and 7 new Festive weapons. The highlights of the update were a new beta game mode, Mannpower, along with two new beta maps, Foundry (Capture the Flag) and Gorge (Capture the Flag). Many already existing Demoman weapons had changes in their functions. Also added were three entirely new weapons, the Quickiebomb Launcher, the Iron Bomber, and the Panic Attack.
 
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It helps the reader to focus in those lines, It also help with multiple subjects
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I'm having trouble believing that this mod is notable enough to merit a page on the Wiki. The links to the YouTube accounts is not particularly convincing, and a server search gives me only a half-dozen servers that are actually populated, with a bare two dozen total even running this mod. Additionally, I have noted that it's only two or three people who are trying to add to this article, which seems to indicate a lack of interest and notability; if this mod truly were notable, there would be more activity from multiple users, rather than just a couple. There's also the issue of lifting resources from other games (with or without permission), which seems to be part of the reason that this page was once deleted in the past, to say nothing of the general quality of the page itself that seems to be causing issues.<br>
ex: Pyro Undate
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I would like to point out that the Wiki is not an advertising platform, and should not be attempted to be used as such (it's not that good at doing so anyways). If a mod is not notable, then it's not notable, and creating an article on the Wiki in an attempt to increase exposure won't help that. Most of the information in the article seems to be lifted straight from the unofficial guide anyways, and if people want to learn how to play the mod they can just read that guide instead.<br>
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Unless there is sufficient proof presented that this mod truly is notable, I'm going to just simply delete this page and associated images. It's caused a fair amount of trouble as it is, and we frown upon attempting to use the Wiki as an advertising platform (which is one of the primary reasons why community sites were removed from the Wiki some time ago). --[[Image:User LordKelvin Signature.png|link=User talk:LordKelvin|80px]] [[User:LordKelvin|<span style="text-shadow:#0031CF 0px 0px 3px;"><font color="#000087"><big>'''LordKelvin'''</big></font>]]</span> 13:17, 12 March 2015 (PDT)
*Pyro Update
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:After giving around 10 or 11 days for presentation of evidence, nobody stepped forward to testify for the value of this page, and thus it and associated images were removed. If someone wants to create this page again in the future, I would advise checking for notability, and ensuring that the page itself is up to quality and not just a copy-paste of the game's guide. The purpose of articles on the Wiki is to document information, not to advertise or give in-depth walkthroughs (which people can just go to the mod's home site for anyways). --[[Image:User LordKelvin Signature.png|link=User talk:LordKelvin|80px]] [[User:LordKelvin|<span style="text-shadow:#0031CF 0px 0px 3px;"><font color="#000087"><big>'''LordKelvin'''</big></font>]]</span> 12:17, 24 March 2015 (PDT)
  
The Pyro Update was the second major content update for Team Fortress 2.
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== It's gone? ==
The Pyro class was the focus of this update. In addition to three new weapons, the latent Hadouken taunt was upgraded to become the first Kill taunt. The update also added compression blast to the Stock Flamethrower, an ability that would become a core technique for the class.
 
Two community-made maps, Fastlane and Turbine, were made official and included in the update, along with a link to the Valve Developer Community site. Meet the Sniper was also introduced in a similar manner to Meet the Scout. Additionally, many improvements and fixes were included.
 
The update was released in the June 19, 2008 Patch
 
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*Haunted Hallowe'en special
 
  
The Haunted Hallowe'en Special, officially known as the Terrifying Team Fortress Haunted Hallowe'en Special, was the first update in what would later become an annual event. The update was first revealed in a blog post on October 29, 2009, and the update was released on the same day. Aside from fixing a few issues, the update introduced two new maps: Harvest and Harvest Event. The release of these maps was unique as it was the first time that the same map had been released in both a standard and an event variety. The patch also introduced two new hazards: the ghost of Zepheniah Mann, which was exclusive to Harvest Event, and the Pumpkin Bomb, which only appears on Halloween-themed maps. Two new cosmetics were also introduced, the Mildly Disturbing Halloween Mask and the Ghastly Gibus, as was a pack of five Halloween-themed achievements known as Scarechievements. Finally, the patch introduced the Halloween pumpkin; a special pickup item that only appears on Halloween-themed maps and randomly drops when a player is killed.
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I was looking around and noticed the slender fortress page is gone! And I was just about to contribute a load of new stuff that I had found out, I really liked this page and relied on it for help, either it doesn't show up in the search and really is gone, or i've gone nuts
In addition to the new content, three hidden pages were discovered shortly after the update was launched; the Last Will and Testament of Zepheniah Mann, the Mann Family Portrait, and the Ghastly Gibus page. The Last Will and Testament page related the history of Zepheniah Mann and his acquisition of land in frontier America. The Will also hinted at the rivalry between Redmond Mann and Blutarch Mann, which has fuelled the conflict between RED and BLU for more than a century. The Will also left complete control of Mann & Sons Munitions Concern to Barnabus Hale, ancestor of Saxton Hale, CEO of Mann Co.
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The third hidden page first revealed the Ghastly Gibus which, like the Gentle Manne's Service Medal, was a limited edition item made available to players outside the game itself. It was awarded to the first 10,319 users who accessed the hidden page and entered their Steam ID. Unlike the Service Medal however, all players had the opportunity to acquire the Gibus, as it was later revealed in a blog post (also posted on October 29, 2009) that players could receive their own Ghastly Gibus if they completed the Ghastly Gibus Grab Scarechievement, which could be obtained by dominating an enemy player wearing the hat.
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: Read the discussion  topic above. It was deleted for reasons. [[User:Ashes|Ashes]] ([[User talk:Ashes|talk]]) 12:48, 15 April 2015 (PDT)
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What do you think? Comment on this thread to let me know, If it is better, I personally will make the whole SF wiki use it.
 
 
 
[[User:Miro k|Miro_k (the Croc)]] ([[User talk:Miro k|talk]]) 14:35, 15 February 2015 (PST)
 
 
 
*I don't think it's a good idea, it's just annoying the viewer, at last it's annoying me.
 

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