Team Fortress Wiki:Anti-Class Strategies

What's this all about?

We have strategy pages for how to play certain classes, so why not strategy pages for how to play against certain classes? Now, I was excited that the idea got support, because I haven't had the chance to do something big on the Wiki, and I went ahead and created some of the pages. They are obviously unsatisfactory. There needs to be a standard for how these pages should work. What is acceptable, and what is not? That's the purpose of this project page. So, discuss away.

Strategy Pages

• Anti-Scout Strategy  Needs Quality Control
• Anti-Soldier Strategy  Needs Quality Control
• Anti-Pyro Strategy  Needs Quality Control
• Anti-Demoman Strategy  Needs Quality Control
• Anti-Heavy Strategy  Needs Work
• Anti-Engineer Strategy  Needs Work
• Anti-Medic Strategy  Needs Work
• Anti-Sniper Strategy  Needs Quality Control
• Anti-Spy Strategy  Needs Quality Control

Standard

(All of this is subject to change)

Which Perspective?

The perspective of strategy should be on the class and his weaknesses, not the class(es) countering him.

Perspective on class' weakness being countered:

• The Sniper has a difficult time hitting targets that evade his shot by strafing, jumping, ducking, and so on.

This is correct. It points out a weakness of the class being discussed. The reader then has the incentive to go to his favorite class' strategy page to best learn how to evade as that class, or he could take a look at more in-depth articles such as Jumping and Strafing.

Perspective on the class doing the countering:

• As a Medic, jump around and strafe to avoid being picked off by the Sniper. You're an asset to your team!

This is incorrect. While it is good advice, it belongs on the Medic strategy page instead of the anti-class strategy page. It focuses more on playing as a class than playing against a class. Don't forget, too, that evading a Sniper's shot is something every class must consider. If we made trivia with the perspective of the class doing the countering, we would have to reiterate the same point a dozen times over for how each class deals with evading the Sniper's shot. That's best left up to pro-class strategy pages.

Comments

I think it should be an extension of the match-ups page. The page should go into detail on how each class can effectively take down the anti-class. I know it's pretty generic: Shoot them. Kill them. But, there are tips and tricks that make it easier for each class to do that. Hey, you play Sniper? You don't always have to go for the headshot. Swallow your pride, a fully charged bodyshot will usually take him down much easier. That sort of stuff. It can then go into the weapons of the anti-class, and how to exploit their downsides or weaknesses, even how to avoid or negate their upsides, because survival is necessary to ensure you are alive to counter the anti-class, right? What say ye? --Bri 06:00, 27 December 2010 (UTC)

Might these pages better be called "Community Anti-Class Strategy"? --Bri 22:48, 27 December 2010 (UTC)

An extension? Perhaps, perhaps not. I think that these pages should be a bit more general. After all, why create these as an extension when we can just rework the Class match-ups pages themselves? I believe that these pages should be focused on highlighting the weaknesses of each class and ways to exploit those weaknesses, regardless of what class one is playing as. -The Neotank ( | Talk) 00:30, 29 December 2010 (UTC)