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== Demoman's Fro ==
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Should this be considered hatless or not? --[[User:Jordan|Jordan]] 22:57, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
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Needs proper capitalization for names of hats. They're proper nouns. Words after the first one deserve a capital letter.
 
 
 
--[[User:Mhmm|Mhmm]] 03:40, 1 July 2010 (UTC)
 
:No. -- [[User:Smashman|Smashman...]] <sub>([[User_talk:Smashman|t]] • <span class="plainlinks">[http://www.steamcommunity.com/id/smashman2004 s])</span></sub> 03:47, 1 July 2010 (UTC)
 
 
 
: I have a copy of the HatNav with capitalisation.  All that's needed is the capitalised versions of all the hats to be moved to the non-capitalised ones before I implement it.  I see you're getting on with some of that now, I'll help you. --[[User:RJackson|RJackson]] 03:56, 1 July 2010 (UTC)
 
::It seems consensus has been reach to change to proper capitalisation. Previously the policy was different to keep consistency. Feel free to update this template. -- [[User:Pilk|Pilk]] <sub>([[User talk:Pilk|talk]])</sub> 04:01, 1 July 2010 (UTC)
 
 
 
== Category: Hats ==
 
 
 
Currently the template includes [[:Category:Hats]] on every page it is transcluded in. While this is, for the most part, a good thing, there are a number of miscellaneous items where including Cat:Hats is probably a bad thing, as they are not hats. It's been a while since I've used parserfunctions, and I'm a little rusty with them, but I believe something like the below would not include Cat:Hats if the parameter category was passed to the template args, and was not blank? I guess it could be expanded so that if the category parameter is passed then the value of the category parameter '''is''' the name of the category included, but I cant remember how the switch statements worked either.
 
<pre>{{#if:{{{category|}}}|<includeonly>{{lang cat|Hats}}</includeonly>|}}</pre>
 
 
 
In other words, could someone a little more experienced check it over before I go causing havok? Cheers. [[User:Lamb|Lamb]] 22:08, 2 October 2010 (UTC)
 
:Your syntax would work perfectly, however, it'd probably be better if we just remove {{tl|lang cat}} from the hat nav altogether, considering that pages are placed in Hat and Misc categories automatically by the infobox. Thanks for the suggestion, though. [[User:Seb26|<font color="#0B61A4">'''seb26'''</font>]] [[User talk:Seb26|<span style="font-size:95%;">[talk]</span>]] 22:12, 2 October 2010 (UTC)
 
::Fair enough, I had not noticed that the infobox also included the categories. [[User:Lamb|Lamb]] 22:15, 2 October 2010 (UTC)
 
 
 
== Splitting badges from misc. items ==
 
Just like hatless and polycount are separated from hats. Looks like crap here but you'll get the point.
 
 
 
{| class="wikitable collapsible" cellpadding="1" align="center" style="text-align:center; font-size:90%; margin-bottom:1em;"
 
! style="background-color:#FFCC66;" rowspan="1" | Misc. Items
 
| valign="top" | -
 
| valign="top" | [[Gentle Manne's Service Medal]]
 
| valign="top" | [[Whiskered Gentleman]]
 
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| valign="top" | [[Physician's Procedure Mask]]
 
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| valign="top" | [[Camera Beard]]
 
| valign="top" | [[Earbuds]]
 
| valign="top" | [[Polycount Pin]]
 
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! style="background-color:#FFCC66;" rowspan="4" | Badges
 
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| valign="top" | [[Primeval Warrior|Primeval<br/>Warrior]]
 
| valign="top" | [[Platinum Dueling Badge|Platinum<br/>Dueling badge]]
 
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| valign="top" | [[Grizzled Veteran|Grizzled<br/>Veteran]]
 
| valign="top" | [[Gold Dueling Badge|Gold<br/>Dueling badge]]
 
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| valign="top" | [[Soldier of Fortune|Soldier<br/>of Fortune]]
 
| valign="top" | [[Silver Dueling Badge|Silver<br/>Dueling badge]]
 
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| valign="top" | [[Mercenary]]
 
| valign="top" | [[Bronze Dueling Badge|Bronze<br/>Dueling badge]]
 
|}
 
--[[User:Kid Of The Century|Kid Of The Century]] 16:34, 4 October 2010 (UTC)
 
 
 
== Consider changing? This template is getting huge ==
 
 
 
Should we consider splitting this into several class-specific templates or similar? After the Polycount update, this has mutated out of control. It often takes up more space than the content of the actual pages now. ~ <code>[[User:Lhavelund|<font color=red><span style="font-size: 1.2em;">'''lhavelund'''</span></font>]]</code> <sup>([[User_talk:lhavelund|t]] ▪ [[Special:Contributions/lhavelund|c]])</sup> 19:14, 13 October 2010 (UTC)
 
:At the very least, I think the template should have a separate section for hatless items, like there's a category at the bottom for Misc. items. What bothers me most about this template isn't its size so much as it is flatout unorganized and just looks messy. I feel like just shifting things around and organizing the template would make it much more manageable in terms of size, but honestly I don't know much about editing templates so I'm afraid to mess with it myself. [[User:Evang7|Evang7]] 17:57, 21 October 2010 (UTC)
 
 
 
== Change from vertical table to horizontal list ==
 
 
 
I'm thinking that with the number of stuff there is now (and it'll only get bigger), it may be a good idea to lose the table format and put this tempalte into more of a row-list format like this:
 
 
 
{{Navbox
 
| name  = HatNav
 
| title = [[Hats]] and [[Miscellaneous items]]
 
| state = {{{coluncolstate|uncollapsed}}}
 
| bodystyle  = width: 100%; margin: 1em 0em;
 
| titlestyle = font-size: 1.025em;
 
| groupstyle = background: #f9d483; width: 5%; text-align: center; font-size: 105%;
 
| group1 = [[Scout]]
 
| list1  = '''Hats:''' [[Batter's Helmet]] • [[Bonk Helm]] • [[Ye Olde Baker Boy]] • [[Troublemaker's Tossle Cap]] • [[Whoopee Cap]] • [[Baseball Bill's Sports Shine]] • [[Milkman]] • [[Bombing Run]]
 
| group2 = [[Soldier]]
 
| list2 = '''Hats:''' [[Soldier's Stash]] • [[Tyrant's Helm]] • [[Stainless Pot]] • [[Killer's Kabuto]] • [[Sergeant's Drill Hat]] • [[Lumbricus Lid]] • [[Grenadier's Softcap]] • [[Chieftain's Challenge]] • [[Stout Shako]] • [[Dr's Dapper Topper]]<br>'''Misc:''' [[Gentle Manne's Service Medal]]
 
| group3 = [[Pyro]]
 
| list3 = '''Hats:''' [[Pyro's Beanie]] • [[Brigade Helm]] • [[Respectless Rubber Glove]] • [[Triboniophorus Tyrannus]] • [[Vintage Merryweather]] • [[Attendant]] • [[Handyman's Handle]] • [[Napper's Respite]] • [[Old Guadalajara]]<br>'''Misc:''' [[Whiskered Gentleman]]
 
| group4 = [[Demoman]]
 
| list4 = '''Hats:''' [[Demoman's Fro]] • [[Glengarry Bonnet]] • [[Scotsman's Stove Pipe]] • [[Hustler's Hallmark]] • [[Tippler's Tricorne]] • [[Carouser's Capotain]] • [[Sober Stuntman]] • [[Rimmed Raincatcher]]
 
| group5 = [[Heavy]]
 
| list5 = '''Hats:''' [[Football Helmet]] • [[Officer's Ushanka]] • [[Tough Guy's Toque]] • [[Hound Dog]] • [[Heavy Duty Rag]] • [[Pugilist's Protector]] • [[Hard Counter]] • [[Cadaver's Cranium]]
 
| group6 = [[Engineer]]
 
| list6 = '''Hats:''' [[Mining Light]] • [[Texas Ten Gallon]] • [[Engineer's Cap]] • [[Hotrod]] • [[Safe'n'Sound]] • [[Texas Slim's Dome Shine]]
 
| group7 = [[Medic]]
 
| list7 = '''Hats:''' [[Prussian Pickelhaube]] • [[Vintage Tyrolean]] • [[Otolaryngologist's Mirror]] • [[Ze Goggles]] • [[Gentleman's Gatsby]]<br>'''Misc:''' [[Physician's Procedure Mask]]
 
| group8 = [[Sniper]]
 
| list8 = '''Hats:''' [[Trophy Belt]] • [[Professional's Panama]] • [[Master's Yellow Belt]] • [[Shooter's Sola Topi]] • [[Bloke's Bucket Hat]] • [[Ritzy Rick's Hair Fixative]] • [[Ol' Snaggletooth]]
 
| group9 = [[Spy]]
 
| list9 = '''Hats:''' [[Fancy Fedora]] • [[Backbiter's Billycock]] • [[Magistrate's Mullet]] • [[Frenchman's Beret]] • [[Familiar Fez]]<br>'''Misc:''' [[Camera Beard]]
 
| group10 = All classes
 
| list10 = '''Hats:''' [[Cheater's Lament]] • [[Ghastly Gibus]] • [[Mildly Disturbing Halloween Mask]] • [[Bill's Hat]] • [[Alien Swarm Parasite]] • [[Modest Pile of Hat]] • [[Noble Amassment of Hats]] • [[Towering Pillar of Hats]] • [[Max's Severed Head]] • [[Wiki Cap]] • [[Mann Co. Cap]] • [[Ellis' Cap]] • [[Horseless Headless Horsemann's Head]] • [[Horrific Headsplitter]] • [[Spine-Chilling Skull]] • [[Voodoo Juju]] • [[Halloween Masks]] • [[Saxton Hale Mask]] • [[Ghastlier Gibus]]<br>'''Misc:''' [[Earbuds]] • [[119th Update|119th Medals]] ([[Primeval Warrior|{{tooltip|P|Primeval Warrior}}]]{{md}}[[Grizzled Veteran|{{tooltip|G|Grizzled Veteran}}]]{{md}}[[Soldier of Fortune|{{tooltip|S|Soldier of Fortune}}]]{{md}}[[Mercenary|{{tooltip|M|Mercenary}}]]) • [[Dueling Mini-Game|Dueling Badges]] ([[Platinum Dueling Badge|{{tooltip|P|Platinum}}]]{{md}}[[Gold Dueling Badge|{{tooltip|G|Gold}}]]{{md}}[[Silver Dueling Badge|{{tooltip|S|Silver}}]]{{md}}[[Bronze Dueling Badge|{{tooltip|B|Bronze}}]]) • [[Polycount Pin]]
 
 
}}
 
}}
Looking at the current template, this idea takes up three-fifths the space (approximately) and doesn't have large blank chunks in the middle of nowhere. Maybe we could even use small icons, although that would look pretty cluttered. [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] 17:54, 28 October 2010 (UTC)
 
:Uh, shall I bump this? (Large recent edit numbers have probably hidden this suggestion.) [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] 20:40, 29 October 2010 (UTC)
 
(Maybe [[Template:Allweapons Nav]] could also benefit from this idea, although since weapons need to be organized a bit more than just a bunch of rows it may not work out.) [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] 20:58, 29 October 2010 (UTC)
 
::{{c|support}}-[[User:Shine|<font color="#666666">'''Shine'''</font>]]<nowiki>[</nowiki>{{mod}}<nowiki>]</nowiki> 20:44, 29 October 2010 (UTC)
 
::{{c|support}}: Also, maybe try adding mini-icons like for the weapons? {{Icon weapon|weapon=Force-A-Nature|Force-A-Nature|icon-size=40x40px}} Or would that make it too big again? --[[User:CruelCow|CruelCow]] 20:48, 29 October 2010 (UTC)
 
:::Icons would look cool, but I think it would look too big again if we have both icons and text. So it'd look like [[Template:Achievements]]. [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] 20:54, 29 October 2010 (UTC)
 

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