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(Saying there's as many loaves of bread as there are TF2 classes is NOT speculation?)
(Saying there's as many loaves of bread as there are TF2 classes is NOT speculation?)
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:: What is pointing?  Most of the selected breads reference a culture and those cultures correspond the cultures represented by the classes.  However, it is not fitting for Trivia, because it is ''observational'' to state the relationships and we can only ''speculate'' about what it means.  At this point, it is only a tease, ''expressly designed'' to generate observation and speculation.  If the bread did not    appear to reference the classes, it would not be as effective at that job as it is. Now, more eyes are on the game anticipating an update.  After all, Summer sale is getting close. So, write no more of it on the page, and see what becomes of the bread.  (IMO, it would be interesting to test if the observed bread references follow the class that teleported, i.e., if the Russian bread only spawns after a Heavy teleports.)  [[User:Mikado282|Mikado282]] ([[User talk:Mikado282|talk]]) 20:57, 12 June 2014 (PDT)
 
:: What is pointing?  Most of the selected breads reference a culture and those cultures correspond the cultures represented by the classes.  However, it is not fitting for Trivia, because it is ''observational'' to state the relationships and we can only ''speculate'' about what it means.  At this point, it is only a tease, ''expressly designed'' to generate observation and speculation.  If the bread did not    appear to reference the classes, it would not be as effective at that job as it is. Now, more eyes are on the game anticipating an update.  After all, Summer sale is getting close. So, write no more of it on the page, and see what becomes of the bread.  (IMO, it would be interesting to test if the observed bread references follow the class that teleported, i.e., if the Russian bread only spawns after a Heavy teleports.)  [[User:Mikado282|Mikado282]] ([[User talk:Mikado282|talk]]) 20:57, 12 June 2014 (PDT)
 
:::Not to mention that there has to be a reason for Valve to add those breads too, They could have just went with any random bread but yet they have breads that have a cultural relation to each of the nine classes. [[User:iAmaNoob|iAmaNoob]] ([[User talk:iAmaNoob|talk]]) 12:14, 13 June 2013 (EST)
 
:::Not to mention that there has to be a reason for Valve to add those breads too, They could have just went with any random bread but yet they have breads that have a cultural relation to each of the nine classes. [[User:iAmaNoob|iAmaNoob]] ([[User talk:iAmaNoob|talk]]) 12:14, 13 June 2013 (EST)
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:::: As stated above, all we can do is speculate, and since the wiki is not the place for speculative things. We should just any "relation" out until further updates by valve. As there is so little info to get any solid evidence. So just wait for Valve. [[User:Ashes|Ashes]] ([[User talk:Ashes|talk]]) 21:18, 12 June 2014 (PDT)

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Chance of bread appearing?

I think now that this can happen, maybe it can be logged how often it happens. Or maybe there's an actual percentage given in the code files. DC64 (talk) 17:18, 11 June 2014 (PDT)

The big question is about the bread randomly appearing. There must be some clue of what's going on in the future. Redconer «C | T» 18:21, 11 June 2014 (PDT)

Mann V. Bread? Bmkw97 (talk) 18:23, 11 June 2014 (PDT)

Wait wait wait, hold on. Each bread represents a class by the type of bread. So that means something is going on. Redconer «C | T» 18:29, 11 June 2014 (PDT)

I was thinking maybe each class gets a Sandvich-like item that is the bread? TheGamerXym (talk) 20:21, 11 June 2014 (PDT)

Weapon, not prop?

The files for the breads are located in the /models/weapons category, wouldnt that make it a weapon/item and not a prop? Because why go through all the trouble to make its own special bread directory if it's just a prop for teleporters? TheGamerXym (talk) 20:20, 11 June 2014 (PDT)

Valve would likely make a bread directory for it anyway to keep all the files together, regardless of what type of model it is. Either way, I've changed it to more generic wording until we know what it is for definite. --Omolong (talk) 20:29, 11 June 2014 (PDT)

One per Customer?

Isn't it incredibly obvious that theres one per class? Some more obvious than others and who would have what is speculative, but IE the burnt belongs to the Pyro, and the Rations the Soldier. Is that worth noting? --Drake3011 (talk) 01:36, 12 June 2014 (PDT)

Unless its backed up with SOLID evidence it is STILL Speculation. And we've had a discussion about this already. There is nothing that points to a bread PER class. Not notable. Ashes (talk) 01:42, 12 June 2014 (PDT)

Saying there's as many loaves of bread as there are TF2 classes is NOT speculation?

Like, seriously, saying it might be linked to the classes is a speculation, and guessing which bread-which class is speculation, but noting that number of classes=number of bread is a simple observation.Minimuslim (talk) 07:58, 12 June 2014 (PDT)

"This may imply..." is definitely speculation, and the "there are 9 types of bread and there are 9 classes" definitely breaks the trivia style guide. 9=9 is not something that goes in a trivia page --User atf412 FoxIcon.png atf412 (talk) 08:07, 12 June 2014 (PDT)
Link to the trivia style guide --User atf412 FoxIcon.png atf412 (talk) 08:10, 12 June 2014 (PDT)
The way Steppe Eagle wrote it was speculation. But to state, "The cultures represented by the 9 breads correspond to the cultures represented by the 9 classes." would be to state fact, however, that would also be obvious and observational, violating other Trivia styles. Mikado282 (talk) 11:32, 12 June 2014 (PDT)
If you guys want to know, this is what I've come up with if each bread represents a class. (See http://steamcommunity.com/app/440/discussions/0/540744299849208754/ )
What class bread represets
Scout: Cinnamon Bread (American, Boston related)
Soldier: Slice of Bread Ration (Army)
Pyro: Burnt Slice of Bread (Burnt)
Demoman: Crumpet (Scottish)
Heavy: Russian Black Bread (Russian, the name)
Engineer: Cornbread? (American, The South)
Medic: Pretzel (German)
Sniper: Normal Bread? (Australian)
Spy: Baguette (French)
DC64 (talk) 20:19, 12 June 2014 (PDT)
Don't take this as criticism, DC64, but an issue is those of us familiar with wheat (and wheat/corn) breads already know it, once all the images are provided.
Here's the thing, What is pointing to the fact that each bread is representing a class? There is no proof showing that the bread points to this. Ashes (talk) 20:23, 12 June 2014 (PDT)
What is pointing? Most of the selected breads reference a culture and those cultures correspond the cultures represented by the classes. However, it is not fitting for Trivia, because it is observational to state the relationships and we can only speculate about what it means. At this point, it is only a tease, expressly designed to generate observation and speculation. If the bread did not appear to reference the classes, it would not be as effective at that job as it is. Now, more eyes are on the game anticipating an update. After all, Summer sale is getting close. So, write no more of it on the page, and see what becomes of the bread. (IMO, it would be interesting to test if the observed bread references follow the class that teleported, i.e., if the Russian bread only spawns after a Heavy teleports.) Mikado282 (talk) 20:57, 12 June 2014 (PDT)
Not to mention that there has to be a reason for Valve to add those breads too, They could have just went with any random bread but yet they have breads that have a cultural relation to each of the nine classes. iAmaNoob (talk) 12:14, 13 June 2013 (EST)
As stated above, all we can do is speculate, and since the wiki is not the place for speculative things. We should just any "relation" out until further updates by valve. As there is so little info to get any solid evidence. So just wait for Valve. Ashes (talk) 21:18, 12 June 2014 (PDT)