User talk:JoblessScout/Balloon race

Marked for deletion

I believe this article should be deleted due to its incompleteness and the fact that it isn't up to standards for our articles about third-party mods and maps. It's only a stub (though not marked as such), but it's also inaccurate. Since the article hasn't been created before now, I don't expect it will get filled out in large detail beyond its current stub state. Can we delete this and then maybe it can be created later (as Balloon Race) when someone wants to make it a full-blown article? Thoughts? – fashnek _(talk·c) 11:34, 11 December 2011 (PST)

 Agree I too think that this page should be deleted; I don't think there is going to be enough information to make a page for it, as it is not really a mod but just a payload race map with giant carts. The current page is mostly just walls of text containing information that doesn't need to be noted. Maybe in the future this page can be made, but not right now. 11:41, 11 December 2011 (PST)

I agree, I personally do not think that this merits a page until it has gained some notoriety. Everyone has heard of AW, VS Saxton Hale, and Zombie Fortress, for example, but this seems rather obscure. Fyahweather 12:53, 11 December 2011 (PST)

Actually, I find Balloon Race quite commonly and is quite a popular mod. And fyi, I was still working on the page. I just saved it occasionally to make sure nothing gets deleted. — The preceding unsigned comment was added by JoblessScout (talk) • (contribs)

Balloon race is not a mod, it is a map. We are considering allowing the page as a map page. You can save your work in a word or text document instead of saving it as well. Please tab over your comments with colons and sign your talk comments with ~~~~. -- Firestorm

Actually, it is a different type of mod due to it's unusual style of gameplay. Sure it is a map, but then that leaves the question: What type of game is it then? The answer: it's a custom mod called "Balloon Race". --JoblessScout

If it was a mod, there would be several maps designed around it. Also, please sign your comment literally with four tildes, and use the "Show Preview" button to ensure it looks like it is supposed to - Firestorm 14:16, 11 December 2011 (PST)

Well, what about TF2ware? There's one map for it. And remember, there are 4 versions of balloon race maps that have significant changes in their map design and gameplay. So technically, there are multiple maps for it. And just saying, I didn't make one of those signature icons yet -JoblessScout 14:25, 11 December 2011 (PST)

When I originally marked this for deletion, it was just a tiny stub and I didn't anticipate it growing. Now there is a lot more information, so I am having doubts. I do find Balloon Race to be notable as a map; I know dozens of people who have played it a lot (verifiably). It's definitely not a mod, though -- TF2ware is a mod, even though it happens to use one specific map. I do think this article would need more information (like pictures) and fewer trivial things (like differences between versions). More importantly, just wanted to point out that [this article has been deleted before] when it had the properly capitalized name (Balloon Race). That doesn't necessarily mean this one should be deleted, but it does demonstrate precedent. If this article does stay around, it needs to be revamped as I said before. I'm adding back the mark for deletion -- it shouldn't have been removed while there was still a discussion going. JoblessScout, it's a better idea to finish as much of an article as possible before you create it. The initial edit is generally considered to the final created version, which is why a few of us jumped on it as soon as it went up. – fashnek _(talk·c) 16:40, 11 December 2011 (PST)

Ok sure, I do admit now. After thinking about it, it is just a map, so I could try informing that it is a map with those boats and stuff to be with it. And I was going to expand it with pictures, but it is locked. so, are yo unable to unlock the page so I can make the edits. I will make all of the corrections in a go and the pictures and other info. The reason I kept saving was to make sure nothing gets deleted in case if the internet crashes or something. I'm sorry I caused that confusion. - JoblessScout

If it were to be classed as just a map then it wouldn't be worthy of an article then I'm afraid. The (unwritten I'm afraid) guidelines for maps worthy of articles are those that are featured on the blog, used competitively or were highly ranked in a mapping competion. Also all maps should follow the TF2 art style (ie, non-whimsical or out of place ones). —Moussekateer·talk 18:48, 11 December 2011 (PST)

Aww, I wasted my whole day then, writing about this stupid balloon race thing. Fine, just delete it if that's the case if the "thing" can't be classed as anything. - JoblessScout

I'm personally of the opinion that it's a gamemode and should be covered by mods. —Moussekateer·talk 18:58, 11 December 2011 (PST)

JoblessScout, if you want we can simply move the article to your userpage for you to continue to work on it. When it's of good enough quality to be added to the main page, we'll add it. And please, put --~~~~ after all your posts on talk pages. --Piemanmoo 19:09, 11 December 2011 (PST)

 Agree – fashnek _(talk·c) 19:12, 11 December 2011 (PST)