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== Engineer update ==
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Did anyone notice that they added a second Misc. slot? — [[User:WindPower|WindPower]] 03:16, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
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:Bitches don't know 'bout my earbuds and Primeval Warrior. --[[User:Vi3trice|Vi3trice]] 03:19, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
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== Polycount Buttin ==
 
 
 
Anyone know where the file for Polycount Buttin is? --[[User:Hobbes348|Hobbes348]] 18:45, 16 July 2010 (UTC)
 
: I don't believe it has actually been released yet. --[[User:Firestorm|<font color="#FF6600"><tt><big><u>'''Firestorm'''</u></big></tt></font>]]&nbsp;{{mod}}&nbsp;[[File:User Firestorm Nuke Sig.jpg]] 18:50, 16 July 2010 (UTC)
 
::Oh...--[[User:Hobbes348|Hobbes348]] 18:55, 16 July 2010 (UTC)
 
:::If we're including the four ETF2L Highlander medals, all of which are unreleased, them we may as well include the Polycount button. -- [[User:En_Ex|En Ex]] {{bur}}  <sub>([[User_talk:En_Ex|talk]])</sub> 14:04, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
 
 
 
== So... ==
 
 
 
Who wants to bet that the Misc2 will be for the Gentle Manne's Service Medal, Mercenary, Soldier of Fortune, Grizzled Veteran, Primeval Warrior, Earbuds, and Greentooth pin? [[User:AbeX300|AbeX300]] 18:13, 17 July 2010 (UTC)
 
:I'm assuming it will let you use two misc. items at once. They're probably working on finalizing it, like getting the Soldier fixed so he can wear two medals. -- [[User:En_Ex|En Ex]] {{bur}}  <sub>([[User_talk:En_Ex|talk]])</sub> 19:48, 17 July 2010 (UTC)
 
 
 
== ETF2L Badges? ==
 
Any idea when we'll put them up too? [[User:Nanosheep|(nanosheep_inc)]] 08:10, 4 October 2010 (UTC)
 
:Don't think they're even in the game yet. [[User:Seb26|<font color="#0B61A4">'''seb26'''</font>]] [[User talk:Seb26|<span style="font-size:95%;">[talk]</span>]] 08:14, 4 October 2010 (UTC)
 
 
 
== Discrepancy on Polycount Pin Release ==
 
 
 
Only eight people have Polycount Pins, yet seventy people entered the competition. Now on the page, it says twice that it was released, once before the 30th, and on the 30th, yet only eight people have them. The Polycount Pin page itself says the 30th... so which is it? Released before, released on, or not released yet? This needs to be fixed ASAP. --[[User:Skunk|Skunk]] 10:24, 6 October 2010 (UTC)
 
:''June 28th, 2010 ...'' lists it as "revealed".  ''Mann-Conomy Update ...'' lists it as "released".  So the latter is when it was released. -[[User:RJackson|<span style="background-color:#FF0000;color:white;font-size:0.7em;padding: 0 2px;">RJ</span>]]{{mod}} 11:13, 6 October 2010 (UTC)
 
 
 
== Images for dueling badges ==
 
 
 
We could use them. You know, like the ones from other hat/misc pages, with a class wearing it making a pose and stuff. And here's a tip: stop using the Soldier for every page that has to do with an all-class item. Be more original and use classes like the Heavy, Medic or Demoman. -- [[User:OluapPlayer|<font color="red">'''OluapPlayer'''</font>]] <sub>([[User_talk:OluapPlayer|t]])</sub> {{adm}} [[File:User OluapPlayer Sig.png|Howdy, pardner!]] 00:47, 12 October 2010 (UTC)
 
: Why does everyone always forget the Pyro? --[[User:Firestorm|<font color="#FF6600"><tt><big><u>'''Firestorm'''</u></big></tt></font>]] {{mod}} 00:58, 12 October 2010 (UTC)
 
:: True. The Pyro and the Demo are yet to appear on a page about an all-class item. -- [[User:OluapPlayer|<font color="red">'''OluapPlayer'''</font>]] <sub>([[User_talk:OluapPlayer|t]])</sub> {{adm}} [[File:User OluapPlayer Sig.png|Howdy, pardner!]] 01:00, 12 October 2010 (UTC)
 
::: Hey Engy has only gotten one appearance! I'll try to whip up something, including Pyro and Demo. --[[User:Vaught|Vaught]] 01:09, 12 October 2010 (UTC)
 
::: Odd, I can't seem to change the medal skins at all. They all seem stacked on top of each other in the viewer, the Golden Medal taking precedence. Anyone else getting that odd error? --[[User:Vaught|Vaught]] 01:23, 12 October 2010 (UTC)
 
 
 
== Misc Section on Class Pages==
 
Right now we have all class misc items listed with hats on the Class Pages, while on classes that have a class specific item (like Pyro), we have a whole section for the 1 item, but doesn't mention the classless ones. I made this quite MS Paint edit to show a slight change to the template I'd like to see [http://i53.tinypic.com/r072gn.png here]. Basically, I'd like to see all the Misc items grouped in the misc items section of the Class Articles, and not placed in the hats section like they currently are -- [[User:Balladofwindfishes|Balladofwindfishes]] 13:08, 31 October 2010 (UTC)
 
 
 
== Misc item template ==
 
 
 
I'm not very wiki savvy but is there a template for the misc items like the ones for hats? I'm asking this mainly for translating purposes.[[User:Hassun|Hassun]] 02:57, 8 November 2010 (UTC)
 
 
 
== Should "Dangeresque, Too?" be renamed to Dangeresque Shades? ==
 
 
 
As the Article is called the latter. --[[User:Z Overlord|Z Overlord]] 08:05, 10 November 2010 (UTC)
 
:The article's name is "Dangeresque, Too?". Someone moved it do "Dangeresque's Shades" which is incorrect. Both the TF2 blog and the newest trailer for Poker Night at the Inventory call it "Dangeresque Too". -- [[Image:User Alex2539 Sig.png|47px|link=User:Alex2539|Alex2539]] - {{mod}} <sub>([[User_talk:Alex2539|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Alex2539|contribs]])</sub> -- 08:14, 10 November 2010 (UTC)
 
 
 
== etf2l buttons ==
 
 
 
becuase the other not yet released stuff is also here i made the codes for the medals of etf2l:
 
===All class===
 
{| class="wikitable collapsible" cellpadding=2 align="left" style="text-align:center; font-size:90%"
 
|-  <!-- All -->
 
| width="40px" style="background-color:#ffbd7e;" rowspan="4" | '''All'''
 
| align="center" style="background-color:#FFDDAD;" | {{Icon item|item=Primeval Warrior|icon-size=75px}}
 
| width="100px" | [[Primeval Warrior]]
 
| align="center" style="background-color:#FFDDAD;" | {{Icon item|item=Grizzled Veteran|icon-size=75px}}
 
| width="100px" | [[Grizzled Veteran]]
 
| align="center" style="background-color:#FFDDAD;" | {{Icon item|item=Soldier of Fortune|icon-size=75px}}
 
| width="100px" | [[Soldier of Fortune]]
 
| align="center" style="background-color:#FFDDAD;" | {{Icon item|item=Mercenary|icon-size=75px}}
 
| width="100px" | [[Mercenary]]
 
|-
 
| align="center" style="background-color:#FFDDAD;" | {{Icon item|item=Platinum Dueling Badge|icon-size=75px}}
 
| width="100px" | [[Platinum Dueling Badge]]
 
| align="center" style="background-color:#FFDDAD;" | {{Icon item|item=Gold Dueling Badge|icon-size=75px}}
 
| width="100px" | [[Gold Dueling Badge]]
 
| align="center" style="background-color:#FFDDAD;" | {{Icon item|item=Silver Dueling Badge|icon-size=75px}}
 
| width="100px" | [[Silver Dueling Badge]]
 
| align="center" style="background-color:#FFDDAD;" | {{Icon item|item=Bronze Dueling Badge|icon-size=75px}}
 
| width="100px" | [[Bronze Dueling Badge]]
 
|-
 
| align="center" style="background-color:#FFDDAD;" | {{Icon item|item=Earbuds|icon-size=75px}}
 
| width="100px" | [[Earbuds]]
 
| align="center" style="background-color:#FFDDAD;" | {{Icon item|item=Polycount Pin|icon-size=75px}}
 
| width="100px" | [[Polycount Pin]]
 
| align="center" style="background-color:#FFDDAD;" | '''No Image'''
 
| width="100px" | [[License to Maim]]
 
| align="center" style="background-color:#FFDDAD;" | '''No Image'''
 
| width="100px" | [[Mapper's Medallion]]
 
|-
 
| align="center" style="background-color:#FFDDAD;" | '''No Image'''
 
| width="100px" | [[ETF2L Highlander Community Challenge|ETF2L highlander medal Gold]]
 
| align="center" style="background-color:#FFDDAD;" | '''No Image'''
 
| width="100px" | [[ETF2L Highlander Community Challenge|ETF2L highlander medal Silver]]
 
| align="center" style="background-color:#FFDDAD;" | '''No Image'''
 
| width="100px" | [[ETF2L Highlander Community Challenge|ETF2L highlander medal Bronze]]
 
| align="center" style="background-color:#FFDDAD;" | '''No Image'''
 
| width="100px" | [[ETF2L Highlander Community Challenge|ETF2L highlander medal Participant]]
 
|-
 
|}
 
 
 
{{clr}}
 
 
 
can you may help with the pictures? the dangerescue icon works for some reason. may it can also be done for the 6 "no image" things here.
 
 
 
should i edit this to the page?
 
 
 
[[User:Jem|Jem]] 11:35, 18 November 2010 (UTC)
 
 
 
== Discrepency about unreleased items ==
 
 
 
There's been some back and forth on if the Mapper's Medallion should be listed on the Misc. Page or not.
 
 
 
My thinking is that, with other things such as the Dangeresque, Too? shades and the Portal Pin being listed, then there's no reason not to list the Medallion too; others say it is mis-leading and says that putting there indicates that the item has been released when it hasn't.
 
 
 
Maybe we could make a separate section on the listing items that are found in the game files but are not obtainable; I noticed there's a hat like that as well for Soldier, which I had no idea was in the game...and I wasn't even aware of the 'Unreleased' page of stuff here on the wiki itself. <small>--''The preceding unsigned comment was added by'' [[User:The Lunatic25|The Lunatic25]] ([[User talk:The Lunatic25|talk]]) • ([[Special:Contributions/The Lunatic25|contribs]]) </small>
 
 
 
:Please sign your comments with 4 ~ please.  Thank you. [[User:Thespy|Thespy]] 19:29, 23 December 2010 (UTC)
 
::That was pretty useless, considering he posted that over one month ago. &ndash; [[User:Smashman|<font color=#507D2A>Smashman</font>]]<sub>&nbsp;([[User_talk:Smashman|talk]])</sub> 19:35, 23 December 2010 (UTC)
 
 
 
== New Table ==
 
 
 
I have an animosity towards wasting space. Looking at the large horizontal waste of space [[User:M-NINJA/Projects/Miscellaneous_items|i made this]] for the classes miscellaneous items. -= [[User:M-NINJA|<font color="Blue">'''M-NINJA'''</font>]] [[File:Burger_Gib.png|24px|link=User_talk:M-NINJA]] =- 04:00, 26 December 2010 (UTC)
 
:{{c|Support}} Eh, why not. -= [[User:M-NINJA|<font color="Blue">'''M-NINJA'''</font>]] [[File:Burger_Gib.png|24px|link=User_talk:M-NINJA]] =- 19:34, 30 December 2010 (UTC)
 
:{{c|Support}} With the addition of the [[Blighted Beak|Beak]] and [[Le Party Phantom|Phantom]], let's make it horizontal before it gets out of hand and we have a giant column of miscs. [[User:Stbeecher|Stbeecher]] 19:39, 30 December 2010 (UTC)
 
:*if you looked at my first post you would've seen this page: [[User:M-NINJA/Projects/Miscellaneous_items]]. bored. did it a while ago.:3 -= [[User:M-NINJA|<font color="Blue">'''M-NINJA'''</font>]] [[File:Burger_Gib.png|24px|link=User_talk:M-NINJA]] =- 23:22, 30 December 2010 (UTC)
 
:{{c|Support}} Seems like a good idea, the vertical list is causing a lot of wasted space. [[User:Elementhol|Elementhol]] 04.35, 15/01/2011 (GMT)
 
 
 
:{{c|Oppose}}, I don't really like either design, sorry. #1 would be plagued by the same set of problems that [[Hats]] faced a while ago (would get too wide too easily), and #2 looks just messy. I agree, the way the table is set up at the moment could be improved but I don't like the alternatives for the moment. [[User:Seb26|<font color="#000">'''seb26'''</font>]] [[User talk:Seb26|<span style="font-size:95%; color:#0070FF;">[talk]</span>]] 04:50, 15 January 2011 (UTC)
 
 
 
I did another [[User:KillerKooK/Misc|Example]] table that uses a style that is on the Hats page. It still has the same problem of wasted space, but at least it keeps the same flow of the Hats page. [[User:KillerKooK|KillerKooK]] 03:11, 2 February 2011 (UTC)
 
 
 
== Name ==
 
 
 
Why is "Miscellaneous" capitalized for "Miscellaneous item"? Why aren't others like "action" for "action item"? [[User:Rolandius|Rolandius]] 22:17, 28 September 2011 (PDT)
 
 
 
== Wear slots(?) ==
 
With 2 misc items, the game now restricts wearing two certain items at the same time, depending on where they were worn. Can we gather some data so we can make a chart for it or something? --[[User:TheJohns|TheJohns]] 00:04, 15 October 2011 (PDT)
 
:I compiled a list of all the misc items except for the all-class medals and glasses.
 
*Essential Accessories: Feet, Arms
 
*Sign of the Wolf's School: Necklace
 
*Planeswalker Goggles: Glasses
 
*Bonk Boy: Glasses
 
*Flip-Flops: Feet
 
*Lucky No. 42: Backpack
 
*Ball-Kicking Boots: Feet
 
*Stereoscopic Shades: Glasses
 
*Gentle Manne's Service Medal: Medal
 
*Fancy Dress Uniform: Shirt
 
*Lord Cockswain's Novelty Mutton Chops and Pipe: Beard
 
*Whiskered Gentleman: Face, Beard
 
*Foster's Facade: Face
 
*Stockbroker's Scarf: Shirt
 
*Sight for Sore Eyes: Glasses
 
*Cremator's Conscience: Shirt
 
*Dangeresque, Too?: Glasses
 
*A Whiff of the Old Brimstone: Bombs
 
*Pocket Medic: Pocket
 
*Big Steel Jaw of Summer Fun: Beard
 
*Security Shades: Glasses
 
*Purity Fist: Arms
 
*Builder's Blueprints: Pocket
 
*Wingstick: Belt
 
*Pip-Boy: None, apparently
 
*Prairie Heel Biters: Feet
 
*Googly Gazer: Glasses
 
*Teddy Roosebelt: Pocket
 
*Physician's Procedure Mask: Beard
 
*Blighted Beak: Face
 
*Couvre Corner: Pocket
 
*Surgeon's Stethoscope: Necklace
 
*Villain's Veil: Beard
 
*Sniper's Snipin' Glass: Glasses
 
*Crocodile Smile: Necklace
 
*Camera Beard: Beard
 
*Le Party Phantom: Face
 
*Noh Mercy: Face
 
*Made Man: Medal
 
*Rogue's Col Roule: Shirt, arms
 
*Spectre's Spectacles: Glasses
 
*Earbuds: Ears
 
*Merc's Pride Scarf: Necklace
 
*Flair!: Flair
 
:[[User:Limeaide|Limeaide]] 00:38, 17 October 2011 (PDT)
 
 
 
== Page for Equip Regions? ==
 
 
 
Should we have a separate page for Equip Regions listing what they are and what misc items are what group in a list or table so people can quickly glance over the list and see what items are incompatible. It's just an issue I've seen people ask, "Can I use this item with this item" and while they can, in theory, just check the 2 item pages, it may be easier to us to make a quick page that is easy to scan. [[User:Balladofwindfishes|Balladofwindfishes]] 18:02, 17 October 2011 (PDT)
 
:This is a good idea, I'll get on it. '''<span style="font-family:Georgia;font-size:83%;">—[[File:User Moussekateer signature sprite.png|31px|link=User:Moussekateer]][[User:Moussekateer|<span style="color:black">Moussekateer</span>]]·[[User talk:Moussekateer|<span style="color:black;font-size:82%;">talk</span>]]</span>''' 16:24, 18 October 2011 (PDT)
 
 
 
== All class hats ==
 
The all class miscs are currently refered to as 'All class hats'. This should probably be changed.[[User:MEDUNN|MEDUNN]] 05:43, 23 October 2011 (PDT)
 
 
 
== Misc. Item of the Month ==
 
 
 
Just for consistency with the [[Hats]] page, and for some fun, I think there should be a Misc item of the month on this page. —[[File:User Rocket Ship BBQ Awesomepyro.png|24px]][[User:Rocket Ship BBQ|Rocket Ship BBQ]]([[File:Speech voice.png|20px|link=User talk:Rocket Ship BBQ]]•[[File:Intel neutral pickedup.png|20px|link=Special:Contributions/Rocket Ship BBQ]]) 20:37, 6 November 2011 (PST)
 
 
 
:{{c|Support}} But dont remove the image of the soldier with medals. <small>[[User:Dio|<span style="color:#404040">Dio ★</span>]] | [[User talk:Dio|<span style="color:#616161">talk</span>]]</small> 15:10, 18 November 2011 (PST)
 
:{{c|Support}} Yea, this could work, as long as it's updated fairly regularly without much hassle like HotM sometimes doesn't have happen. [[User:Balladofwindfishes|Balladofwindfishes]] 15:20, 18 November 2011 (PST)
 
:{{c|Support}} Alright, alright, I'll get to work on another [[User:cooper Kid/Hat of the Month|generator]] then... '''» [[User:Cooper Kid|<span style="color:red">Coo</span><span style ="color:gray">per</span><span style ="color:blue"> Kid</span>]]''' <small>([[User_talk:Cooper Kid|blether]]) • ([[Special:Contributions/Cooper Kid|contreebs]])</small> 17:37, 18 November 2011 (PST)
 
::{{c|yes|[[User:Cooper Kid/Misc of the Month|Done]]}} '''» [[User:Cooper Kid|<span style="color:red">Coo</span><span style ="color:gray">per</span><span style ="color:blue"> Kid</span>]]''' <small>([[User_talk:Cooper Kid|blether]]) • ([[Special:Contributions/Cooper Kid|contreebs]])</small> 05:27, 19 November 2011 (PST)
 
 
 
== Halloween Miscs ==
 
 
 
There are 88 miscellaneous items currently, of which 20 are new Halloween items. So statistically, for a quarter of the year the Misc of the Month will be a Halloween item, which I don't think is a good idea. Does anyone else agree that all the Halloween items should be separated, and I can re-write the code so that they can only be chosen in October? It's a similar case for the Hat of the Month as well - there are a disproportionate amount of Halloween hats. '''» [[User:Cooper Kid|<span style="color:red">Coo</span><span style ="color:gray">per</span><span style ="color:blue"> Kid</span>]]''' <small>([[User_talk:Cooper Kid|blether]]) • ([[Special:Contributions/Cooper Kid|contreebs]])</small> 04:04, 24 November 2011 (PST)
 
:But where would you draw the line? There are plenty of non-holiday specific hats that are seasonal in theme (eg Cadaver's Cranium, Rather Festive Tree) would these also be excluded?[[User:MEDUNN|MEDUNN]] 04:23, 24 November 2011 (PST)
 
::Those items you had example are hats MEDUNN, I think yes but should we do the flip flop and lucky no.42 to summer time like halloween items in halloween time? [[User:Hinaomi|Hinaomi]] [[File:Killicon_unarmed_combat.png]] 04:38, 24 November 2011 (PST)
 
::: Has everyone forgotten all the Halloween items are wearable once a month during the full moon?  Nothing needs to be tweaked. [[User:SS2R|SS2R]] 04:50, 24 November 2011 (PST)
 
 
 
:Seems fine to show the Halloween ones whenever they pop up. -- [[User:Pilk|Pilk]] <sup>([[User talk:Pilk|talk]])</sup> 04:53, 24 November 2011 (PST)
 
::I chose the Halloween ones because, as it's the biggest event on the TF2 calendar, it has the most event-themed hats. And, as SS2R said, they can only be worn a few times a month. It hardly seems right that, statistically, 4 months out of 12 are likely to have an "Item of the Month" you can't even wear. '''» [[User:Cooper Kid|<span style="color:red">Coo</span><span style ="color:gray">per</span><span style ="color:blue"> Kid</span>]]''' <small>([[User_talk:Cooper Kid|blether]]) • ([[Special:Contributions/Cooper Kid|contreebs]])</small> 08:49, 24 November 2011 (PST)
 
::: I'm so confused.  If a Halloween item gets picked as the misc of the month, it can be worn that month, during the full moon.  Why remove these?  I thought the idea was to showcase the items, not put a concern with them being worn.  Did I miss something?  [[User:SS2R|SS2R]] 18:05, 26 November 2011 (PST)
 
:::: It was just an idea, seeing as there are so many Halloween items which most people will hardly ever wear. I'm going to leave it for now anyway, and we'll just have to wait and see what comes round for December =)<br>'''» [[User:Cooper Kid|<span style="color:red">Coo</span><span style ="color:gray">per</span><span style ="color:blue"> Kid</span>]]''' <small>([[User_talk:Cooper Kid|blether]]) • ([[Special:Contributions/Cooper Kid|contreebs]])</small> 18:15, 26 November 2011 (PST)
 

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