Talk:Los Muertos

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Catedral de la Santísima Trinidad

At some point, some editor(s) will (have) become curious about the plaque for

Catedral de la Santísima Trinidad

or

Cathedral of the Holy Trinity

which is the name of several cathedrals, if not outright basilicas, world wide, mostly Roman Catholic.

The impressive design of the map's cathedral strikes me as consistent with the many famous Spanish/Portuguese Roman Catholic cathedrals if Latin America. I grew up in a Kansas county with many similar, but German, Catholic cathedrals.

But something is interesting on the plaque:

"la iglesia episcopal te da la bienvenida"

or

"The Episcopal Church Welcomes You"

which has been a particular invitational phrase of the Episcopal Church for over 55 years.

This is complex, but in short, the United States "Episcopal Church" is a Revolutionary War split from the "Church of England", which is a split from the "Catholic Church".

And, the Catedral de la Santísima Trinidad in Kingston, Jamaica (British Colony taken over from Spain) is Episcopalian and was Consagrada/Consecrated in 1911. But the Kingston CHT looks nothing like the Los Muertos cathedral.

M I K A D O 282 🎃🎃🎃🎃🎃🎃 🎃🎃 🎃🎃 (talk | contribs) (Help Wanted!) 19:20, 10 October 2021 (UTC)

P.S. No, really. When I first saw the cathedral, I immediately thought of Cathedral Basilica of the Assumption of the Virgin in Cusco, Peru ("Indiana Jones", Secret of the Incas). The map's cathedral also has features seen in Cathedral Basilica of St. Francis of Assisi (Tuefort).

Make what Trivia of any of this you think you can.

M I K A D O 282 🎃🎃🎃🎃🎃🎃 🎃🎃 🎃🎃 (talk | contribs) (Help Wanted!) 02:49, 12 October 2021 (UTC)

Pickup images

Are these pickup images necessary? They'd have to be made for every single map previously and from now on, and I don't think they're really necessary to begin with (They'd have to be improved if so).
GrampaSwood (talk) 12:41, 17 October 2021 (UTC)

Pictogram plus.png Agree Unnecessary, and ironic, given how particularly obvious and easy to find as they are on this map. OTOH, I can only guess the inspiration is from the Gargoyle pick up maps, which I do appreciate, especially for the new convoluted maps.
M I K A D O 282 🎃🎃🎃🎃🎃🎃 🎃🎃 🎃🎃 (talk | contribs) (Help Wanted!) 17:12, 17 October 2021 (UTC)

Plaza de Armas

Plaza de Armas (literally Weapons Square) are standard features of Spanish colonial settlements, especially colonial capitals like Santa Fe, New Mexico, or Chihuahua City, Mexico.

Spanish Colonial Baroque cathedrals typically face the settlement's Plaza de Armas:

M I K A D O 282 🎃🎃🎃🎃🎃🎃 🎃🎃 🎃🎃 (talk | contribs) (Help Wanted!) 17:02, 17 October 2021 (UTC)

Personally, I think it's a lot less confusing if there aren't words used that entirely accurately describe what these locations are. When I read this stuff, I have absolutely no connection with these places unless I translated all the names and looked up what they generally look like. I think they should be scrapped in favour of more descriptive names that everyone can understand without having to do a ton of research.
GrampaSwood (talk) 17:08, 17 October 2021 (UTC)