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==knockback or knock back?==
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This is pretty petty, but in the Force-A-Nature's notes it says 'knockback'.  Shouldn't that be knock back, or even Knock back?
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Are knockback and knock back interchangeable? [[User:Atty|Atty]] 13:05, 17 January 2011 (UTC)
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: ''Knockback'' sounds and looks better in my opinion, but wait until someone else says something about it --[[User:ScoutKast|ScoutKast]] 20:47, 29 July 2011 (PDT)
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== {{Patch name|10|24|2024}} and BLU Scout pants  ==
: I'd say "knockback" sounds better as well. Best let sleeping dogs lie.  [[User:Ryftt|Ryftt]] 00:53, 14 August 2011 (PDT)
 
: I agree knockback is good for now but im sure someone will want it changed sooner or later... Twili Sparkle 10:37, 29 September 2012 (PDT)
 
: I agree that you didn't look about this discussion was ended about 1 year. [[File:User Hinaomi Hinaomi-sig.png]] [[User:Hinaomi|Hinaomi]] <small>([[User talk:Hinaomi|talk]]) • ([[Special:Contributions/Hinaomi|contributions]])</small> 12:30, 29 September 2012 (PDT)
 
I don't see how it makes a difference. [[User:LinusBro|LinusBro]] 17:27, 7 April 2013 (PDT)
 
  
Knockback and Knock back are the same thing, just seperated. [[user:DMSomeGuy|DMSomeGuy] 9:34, 7 September 2013 (PDT)
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Assuming that the pants fix is permanent, should a text string template be made with default text for the undoubtedly countless instances in items, media, etc, where BLU Scout will have the old RED pants? I.e. "Since the {{Patch name|10|24|2024}} fixing a longstanding bug since release, the BLU Scout's pants are colored incorrectly"--[[File:Leaderboard class allclass.png|15px|link=]] [[User:Akolyth|<span style="font-size: 14px; font-family: Trebuchet MS">'''Akolyth'''</span>]] ([[User_talk:Akolyth|talk]]) 05:49, 25 October 2024 (UTC)
  
==Team Photo Trivia==
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:I don't think it's worth noting and it would get incredibly repetitive to put on basically everything. We don't note that any pre-Meet the Spy Sniper appearances are missing the cut on his cheek. The plan is to only note this on cosmetic items which clash with the new pants, but only doing so after the next 2 patches. This is to give time to the creators of the cosmetic items to actually fix it due to the out-of-the-BLU nature of the change. Of course this would be assuming that this patch is a reasonable time away and not this evening.<br>[[File:BLU Wiki Cap.png|20px|link=List of Wiki Cap owners]] {{!}} [[Help:Group rights|<span style="color:green;font-family:TF2 Build;">s</span>]] {{!}} [[User:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">GrampaSwood</font>]] [[File:PraisetheSun.png|20px|alt=Praise the Sun!]] ([[User talk:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) ([[Special:Contributions/GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">contribs</font>]]) 14:01, 25 October 2024 (UTC)
The Scout's pose in the Team Photo is very similar to his [[Home Run]] taunt. Currently, the Scout is the only class to have a Taunt resembling his Team Photo pose. [[User:Danton|Danton]] 02:20, 15 July 2010 (UTC)
 
:Why don't you put that in the "Trivia" section of the page then so other people know? [[User:Legomaster445|Legomaster445]] ([[User talk:Legomaster445|talk]]) 20:07, 17 July 2014 (PDT)
 
  
==Very fast running?==
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:: You were right, I surrender. ( • ᴖ • 。) (Reverted, but I wonder if maybe Valve would ask the conflicting item creators to use that BLU workshop fix so they can do it again at some point.) is it true Valve can't edit community items without asking permission? And if so, is that just a courtesy or legal trouble?--[[File:Leaderboard class allclass.png|15px|link=]] [[User:Akolyth|<span style="font-size: 14px; font-family: Trebuchet MS">'''Akolyth'''</span>]] ([[User_talk:Akolyth|talk]]) 23:47, 25 October 2024 (UTC)
It said very fast running :P just fixed that. <small>— ''The preceding unsigned comment was added by'' '''[[User:TheChickenMonkey|TheChickenMonkey]]''' ([[User talk:TheChickenMonkey|talk]]) • ([[Special:Contributions/TheChickenMonkey|contribs]]) 14:22, 7 October 2010</small>
 
:Actually the Discussion page is for people to talk about whether something should or should not be changed or added to the article; changes that you have made should be typed in the Summary section at the Edit page. Also, remember to sign off with the 4 tildes. [[User:Tkj|Tkj]] 09:22, 29 August 2011 (PDT)
 
  
==Administrator comic==
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::: Per the SSA, Valve can modify accepted Workshop submissions in some cases. We can only speculate the details, but that's outside the scope of wiki talk. — [[User:Tark|<span style="font-weight:bold;color: #5BC236">Tark</span>]] 03:38, 26 October 2024 (UTC)
The BLU Scout did in fact die as revieled in the Adminstrator comic during the war update (second page) in the screen on the bottem left.[[Yoshisonic|Yoshisonic]] 10:12 10/14/10
 
:Considering the number of characters who have died in the "Meet the Team" videos, the various comics and the game itself, this probably isn't the best indicator... [[User:Kane.malakos|Kane.malakos]] 07:23, 9 November 2010 (UTC)
 
 
 
Even though this relates to the BLU soldier (right?). In meet the spy the Soldier (along with the Heavy) were backstabbed
 
multiple times and the Soldier was still able to wage war and the heavy was able to listen to some Earbuds in the mac update. [[User:Gamecrazy009|Gamecrazy009]] 01:16, 31 October 2010 (UTC)
 
 
 
Much like Kenny in South Park, all Meet the Team characters come back to life in time for the next video (or are replaced). Otherwise, the Soldier, Heavy, Medic, and many others would not be in any videos.  [[User:Ryftt|Ryftt]] 00:54, 14 August 2011 (PDT)
 
 
 
:It says in ''Poker Night'' that the Heavy is blissfully unaware of respawning - he thinks they are bad dreams. I know that's not canon, but still. Also remember that at the end of ''Meet the Medic'' there are about 30 BLU Soldiers. You shouldn't assume that there are only one of each class. '''» [[User:Cooper Kid|<span style="color:red">Coo</span><span style ="color:gray">per</span><span style ="color:blue"> Kid</span>]]''' <small>([[User_talk:Cooper Kid|blether]]'''·'''[[Special:Contributions/Cooper Kid|contreebs]])</small> 09:11, 14 August 2011 (PDT)
 
 
 
==New Image for Bonk and Crit-a-Cola==
 
 
Would we like to use these to match the Mad Milk, or keep the cans that are currently being used? [[User:Hobolegs|Hobolegs]] 19:29, 16 October 2010 (UTC)
 
:We should, the current icons are our of place since this site switch to Hugo's icons and those two icons do not match Hugo's icons from TF2B. But ultimately this is the admin's call [[User:Z Overlord|Z Overlord]] 07:17, 9 November 2010 (UTC)
 
 
 
== New York ==
 
 
 
I personally asked some people who have been to New York and Boston, as well as a couple of Bostonians. Not a single one of them said he was from Boston based on his accent, and all of them said New York.
 
 
 
Someone pointed out that all the classes accents are faked based on stereotypes. Well, someone got their stereotypes mixed up, and now we have a Bostonian with a New York accent.
 
 
 
[[User:SalaComMander|SalaComMander]] 02:52, 8 November 2010 (UTC)
 
 
 
I think the Bios are non-cannon to be honest. They were written before the game was out (and looked allot more like a comic book) Allot of them do not match up with the character's in game. [[User:Z Overlord|Z Overlord]] 07:12, 9 November 2010 (UTC)
 
 
 
And this is not trivia-worthy? Need I define "trivia"?
 
[[User:SalaComMander|SalaComMander]] 08:02, 11 November 2010 (UTC)
 
 
 
I would agree that the Bios might not be Cannon, but there are several references to him being from Boston, most notable the achievement the year to remember which it the the year that  the Boston Red Sox one the world series. Another being his you of the term "frickin" which is used by Bostonian and could be a way of chaining the truly Bostonian term "wicked" to be more understanding to people outside of New England. The finale  reference that I can think of off the top of my head would be in his "meet the..." video his accent is nasally which I would say is more Bostonian then a New York accent.[[User:Schrodingerscat|Schrodingerscat]] 03:52, 14 November 2010 (UTC)
 
 
 
 
 
Irrelevent, irrelevent, and not entirely true. The references to him being from Boston are not the point. He ''is'' from Boston, Valve said so, and what they say goes. The problem here is the fact that his accent is that of a New Yorker, not a Bostonian.
 
[[User:SalaComMander|SalaComMander]] 06:40, 19 November 2010 (UTC)
 
 
 
== Lack of uniformity ==
 
 
 
Between the English page and a wide number of Scout pages in a different language, there seems to be a huge lack of uniformity, especially with some images, such as this image.[[File:Crazylegs.jpg|thumb|Bacon in a wind tunnel]]. Any ideas? --[[User:Vaught|<span style=" 0px 0px 3px;"><font color=" #FFA6C9"><tt><big>'''Vaught'''</big></tt></font>]]</span> 04:38, 12 November 2010 (UTC)
 
 
 
== New strategy? ==
 
 
 
Should I add a new strategy to the strategy section?
 
 
 
*Using your melee weapon you can hit enemies quickly and avoid fire with your speed.
 
 
 
Or is it obsolete for the time being because melee isn't as useful?
 
:--[[User:Boregano|Boregano]] 23:44, 15 November 2010 (UTC)
 
 
 
:Using melee is about as useful as any other class, since his damage per hit and low health compensate for the speed.  [[User:Ryftt|Ryftt]] 00:58, 14 August 2011 (PDT)
 
 
 
==Bonk==
 
:The most handsome, adorable, charismatic, cocky person in the entire game. [[User:Rong|Rong]] 15:50, 16 November 2010 (UTC)
 
::Rong go away no one likes you- [[User:Bpc908|Bpc908]] 02:46, 3 December 2010 (UTC)
 
:::Nah. [[User:Rong|Rong]] 08:19, 3 December 2010 (UTC)
 
::::This is not relevant to the article. I suggest discussing this on Facepunch or SPUF. -- [[User:Pilk|Pilk]] <sub>([[User talk:Pilk|talk]])</sub> 08:23, 3 December 2010 (UTC)
 
:::::You're very mean. [[User:Rong|Rong]] 08:37, 3 December 2010 (UTC)
 
::::::Yes, yes we are. [[User:Bluh Bluh|BLUH]] 17:00, 4 December 2010 (UTC)
 
:::::::Hey guys saw the party was in here [[User:CounterTunes|CounterTunes]] 17:02, 4 December 2010 (UTC)
 
::::::::Remind me how is this relevant.  Oh yeah, by the way, love how the comments are posted Thespy 22:41, 5 December 2010 (UTC)
 
:::::::::Can we just delete this bit altogether? [[User:Pierow|Pierow]] 09:21, 16 March 2011 (UTC)
 
:::::::::::No  [[User:Thespy|Thespy]] 18:50, 20 March 2011 (UTC)
 
 
 
== Poker Night suit card ==
 
 
 
The card of the scout in this game is the same suits for the clubs and spades aswell ? I was just very curious because I didn't get the game and this is killing me. I wanted to know to get more info on this game and make my personal research in other values other than the card alone and merge it with personal info. Do anyone have this info please ? If the jack of clubs tf2 deck card is a scout in both the spade and club suits ?
 
--[[User:Copo|Copo]] 06:43, 12 February 2011 (UTC)
 
 
 
 
 
== Sandman Ammo ==
 
 
 
Currently, an infinity sign is listed as the "ammo carried" (for the ball). Since the only number for the actual ammo sign is 1 or 0, should it be listed as one? Also, since its not technically ammo, should it just say N/A as well?
 
 
 
[[User:BASEBALLFURIES|BASEBALLFURIES]] 01:11, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
 
 
 
:Yes, but it magically recharges. With... magic... [[User:GeminiViRiS|<font color="green" size="2px">GeminiViRiS</font>]] [[Image:User GeminiViRiS Doubleface.jpg|20px]] [[User_talk:GeminiViRiS|Talk]] [[Special:Contributions/GeminiViRiS|Contribs]] 01:15, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
 
 
 
I think that the ball should count as Ammo Loaded, but not Ammo Carried, because as previously stated, it does recharge on its own, unlike most other weapons, which to replenish the Ammo Carried requires an ammo crate or a resupply cabniet. [[User:DJNerd|DJNerd]] 14:23, 4 July 2011 (PDT)
 
 
 
== Knock back range ==
 
 
 
I've been noticing that you have to be about 5 feet away from an enemy to actually have them be shot backwards when fired upon. Does anyone know the exact distance you need to be to put the knock back into effect?
 
[[User:GRiM US|GRiM US]] 02:25, 19 June 2011 (UTC)
 
 
 
== "Anyone up for Taco's?" ==
 
 
 
Well, according to the comics. The Scout likes tacos. Now i dont know if this is actually a trivia thing to add but i just mentioned it :D [[File:Stunned.png|45px]] [[User:Ravecrib9t4|<span style="font-family:TF2 Build; color:#990099 ">The Noble Scout</span>]] <sub><sub>([[User talk:Ravecrib9t4|T]]/[[Special:Contributions/Ravecrib9t4|C]])</sub></sub> 14:53, 19 June 2011 (UTC)
 
 
 
:The question should be: Who ''doesn't'' like tacos?  [[User:Ryftt|Ryftt]] 01:00, 14 August 2011 (PDT)
 
 
 
:: Weird people. [[User:weirdduder10|Weirdduder10]] 14:11:40, 14 October 2012
 
 
 
== "Atomizer" ==
 
 
 
Should the 10 damage on the third jump be labbled as a positive? I know it is on the blog, but is it really a positive attribute? <small>— ''The preceding unsigned comment was added by'' '''[[User:MEDUNN|MEDUNN]]''' ([[User talk:MEDUNN|talk]]) • ([[Special:Contributions/MEDUNN|contribs]]) </small>
 
:It is unknown whether that damage will apply to the Scout or others, so we're leaving it as-is. Please sign all your comments on talk pages with <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>. Thank you. --{{User:Firestorm/sig}} 05:23, 22 June 2011 (UTC)
 
::The damage is applied to himself, so it should be a negative [[User:Sondii789x|Sondii789x]] 06:59, 27 June 2011 (PDT)
 
::: Yeah, why would a third jump be applied to enemies? :| [[User:Weirdduder10|Weirdduder10]] 11:12, 14 October 2012 (PDT)
 
 
 
== #1 fan ==
 
 
 
The in-game reading for the scout lists "Bonk Boy" as an item in the #1 Fan's item set. The mask from the poster. Just figured it should have a posted pic here.
 
 
 
-First post and I feel like I'm being helpful YAY
 
 
 
Everman 02:46, 24 June 2011 (PDT)
 
 
 
== Party like its 2004 ==
 
 
 
You gotta say, "When you kill 2004 people, you must party".
 
 
 
[[User:ArabianKnight|ArabianKnight]] 17:52, 25 June 2011 (PDT)
 
 
 
well 2004 was a year for any redsox fan to remember(therapist's voice) and thats were we get the term
 
[[User:Tt3socal|Peter Antonio Filippis]] 3:25 24 march 2012 (PST)
 
:But... It's currently 1972 in Tf2... So... MY MIND! [[User:Plzwork1122|Plzwork1122]] 23:39, 14 October 2012 (PDT)
 
 
 
==Winger is automatic==
 
The winger is automatic, should I add that to the abilities and trivia?
 
--[[User:BsiGio|BsiGio]] 15:18, 21 July 2011 (PDT)
 
 
 
:No, all the weapons are automatic, hold the trigger down and they will keep firing until all the ammo in the weapon is used up, then depending on the reload (if there is one), the user reloads and continues to fire. (The exceptions are the Scattergun, Shotgun, Frontier Justice, and Family Business, if the fire button is held, only one round is loaded, then fired.) [[User:DJNerd|DJNerd]] 20:24, 21 July 2011 (PDT)
 
 
 
== Scout's Bloody (Sweaty?) Armpits ==
 
My brother noticed today that the Scout has bloody armpits, and he was playing on an official Valve server. I don't often play Scout; has this always been the case? [[User:InsanityOnABun|InsanityOnABun]] 13:12, 5 August 2011 (PDT)
 
 
 
:It might have been because he was shot and the random blood splatters happened to be on his armpits. Gross.  [[User:Ryftt|Ryftt]] 01:01, 14 August 2011 (PDT)
 
 
 
== Missing Gallery Pic ==
 
 
 
The gallery is missing the jack of clubs card from Poker Night that the Scout is on. [[User:SS2R|SS2R]] 11:02, 12 September 2011 (PDT)
 
: Done. [[User:SS2R|SS2R]] 12:13, 13 September 2011 (PDT)
 
 
 
== Smissmas Story, scouts name? ==
 
 
 
In the new smissmass story comic, the blu soldier refers to scout as "Judas", possibly his name? I thought it might just be a "joke" or an insult in refrence to Judas from the 12 apostles, who in similar manner to scout betrays his "friends", so I've yet to add it. [[User:EvilHolyGuy|EvilHolyGuy]] 20:37, 15 December 2011 (PST)
 
 
 
Edit: it seems someone already has, so I guess it's pretty much accepted then. [[User:EvilHolyGuy|EvilHolyGuy]] 20:39, 15 December 2011 (PST)
 
:The Demoman refers to the Soldier as Brutus Benedict Arnold Judas Bloody Iscariot. I highly doubt this is his real name. [[File:Painted_Vintage_Merryweather_803020.png|24px|link=User talk:Fyahweather]][[User:Flamborsia|<span style="text-shadow:orange 0px 0px 3px;"><font color="#FF6600"><tt><big><u>'''Fyahweather'''</u></big></tt></font></span>]] 20:42, 15 December 2011 (PST)
 
 
 
::That's what I was thinking, it really seemed like more of an insult than anything. *shrug* [[User:EvilHolyGuy|EvilHolyGuy]] 20:48, 15 December 2011 (PST)
 
:::It's undoubtedly just an insult, as the Scout had just "grassed" on him in court. '''» [[User:Cooper Kid|<span style="color:red">Coo</span><span style ="color:gray">per</span><span style ="color:blue"> Kid</span>]]''' <small>([[User_talk:Cooper Kid|blether]]) • ([[Special:Contributions/Cooper Kid|contreebs]])</small> 04:05, 16 December 2011 (PST)
 
 
 
::::No in this context, I think it's possible that the Scout'd name is actually Judas. <span style="color: #cc6600; font-family: Tf2 Build;"><big>[[User:Smashbrother101|Smash]][[User Talk:Smashbrother101|brother]][[User:Smashbrother101#Bios|1]][[User:Smashbrother101#Gallery|0]][[User:Smashbrother101#Loadout|1]]</big></span> 04:17, 17 December 2011 (PST)
 
 
 
:::::I highly doubt it. That was clearly an insult, and if his name was actually Judas, the Soldier is very unlikely to call him that in such a angry situation. —[[File:User Rocket Ship BBQ Awesomepyro.png|24px]][[User:Rocket Ship BBQ|Rocket Ship BBQ]]([[File:Speech voice.png|20px|link=User talk:Rocket Ship BBQ]]•[[File:Intel neutral pickedup.png|20px|link=Special:Contributions/Rocket Ship BBQ]]) 10:46, 17 December 2011 (PST)
 
 
 
::::::No... Judas is the name of the man who turned in Jesus... It's used as a insult for Traders....
 
 
 
== Health problem ==
 
The scout info box incorrectly shows the scout as having 125 hp when the milkman set is equipped.
 
:The ability changed from Hp to calling card because the scout was stronger than he was supposed to be. Plus you forgot your 4 tildes. [[User:ZombieNubMaster|ZombieNubMaster]] ([[User talk:ZombieNubMaster|talk]]) 17:23, 30 January 2014 (PST)
 
 
 
== Conspiracy Theory ==
 
 
 
Guys.
 
It's canon that Scout has eight brothers, right?
 
And there's nine mercs.
 
......
 
''/cannot be unseen
 
''
 
Although it's nigh-impossible they're all related, it's just a fun little coincedence. :P  -[[User:Chocolate Shotgun|Chocolate Shotgun]] 09:16, 4 July 2012 (PDT)
 
:In Meet The Spy, it was revealed that the Spy was having an affair with Scout's Mom... So if you're right and Spy really is one of Scout's siblings, then that's pretty fucked up. And if he's not a sibling, then who's the eighth? [[User:Pakaku|Pakaku]] 19:33, 12 July 2012 (PDT)
 
::I'm afraid to burst your bubbles, but it says Scout is of 8 children, and that he does not have 8 other siblings. Spy could be his father though if you are implying that. [[User:Legomaster445|Legomaster445]] ([[User talk:Legomaster445|talk]]) 19:59, 17 July 2014 (PDT)
 
 
 
== Health Problem ==
 
 
 
The Pretty Boy's Pocket Pistol incorrectly displays 125 health when it should be 140 regular and I checked the Overheal on the 140 scout which comes out to 210 for max overheal. [[User:Guardian|Guardian]] 21:08, 4 July 2012 (PDT)
 
:It works for me. It shows 140 health, but maybe that's just because I'm using PVHUD. I have no idea what the original hud looks like anymore.[[User:GeneStealer|GeneStealer]] 19:44, 12 July 2012 (PDT)
 
 
 
== I don't understand the reload of this weapon ==
 
 
 
He (Scout) is just ejecting a spent shell. Unless he is carrying all 32 rounds in the container, how is this considered reloading?
 
[[User:GeneStealer|GeneStealer]] 19:40, 12 July 2012 (PDT)
 
:In the same way that the Sticky Launcher's reload animation doesn't show any new ammunition being added to the weapon, it's considered reloading as it's when the ammo counter at the bottom-right is increased. {{User:Cooper Kid/Signature}} 01:55, 13 July 2012 (PDT)
 
::Alright, thanks. [[User:GeneStealer|GeneStealer]] 08:02, 13 July 2012 (PDT)
 
::: Whenever i look at something like at, i always think that the weapon is creating the ammo, but when it runs out of whatever it needs to create it, then they are all out. Yet i'm still confused :| [[User:Weirdduder10|Weirdduder10]] 11:17, 14 October 2012 (PDT)
 
:::: The stickybomb launcher and the scattergun just confuse me. If you look at the ammo counter, you can see that, for the scattergun, you can fire 5.33 whole clips of ammo (i have to thank my computer calculator). How does that gun even hold that much ammo? Same with the stickybomb launcher. Also, in a DB shotgun, you have to remove the bullet shell before you can load in the next bullet. But the scout can load 6 bullets into his DB shotgun without having to remove the shells. He only removes the shells when reloading. [[User:ZombieNubMaster|ZombieNubMaster]] ([[User talk:ZombieNubMaster|talk]]) 17:21, 30 January 2014 (PST)
 
 
 
== Scout's abilities in MvM ==
 
 
 
My infos about the innate abilities in MvM were removed because deemed as "strategies". The bit was:
 
 
 
''In [[Mann vs. Machine (game mode)|Mann vs. Machine]] matches he additionally has a larger [[credits|money]] collect range, gains health from said pickups and, upon death, respawns instantly.''
 
 
 
I think they fit the article since they refer to the class' abilities, not unlike the double capture rate. Not how one should use them.[[User:Kid Of The Century|Kid Of The Century]] 01:25, 21 August 2012 (PDT)
 
 
 
:I think that this all happens because he has a cup of caffeine everyday. seriously, how is scout the weakest and yet still the fastest at doing everything? Well, i think there was one more thing in MvM for scout, is that when you upgrade his speed, it goes up to like, 170%, and stacked with the baby faces blaster, it's almost like he has a charge'n'targe. [[User:Weirdduder10|Weirdduder10]] 11:19, 14 October 2012 (PDT)
 
 
 
== Add the scouts age to bio? ==
 
 
 
Could someone who knows what their doing add it? <small>— ''The preceding unsigned comment was added by'' '''[[User:1112e|1112e]]''' ([[User talk:1112e|talk]]) • ([[Special:Contributions/1112e|contribs]]) 22:42, 9 September 2012</small>
 
:I assume you're taking his age from the description of the [[Track Terrorizer]]? Because that's written in past-tense, so it's not necessarily his current age. {{User:Cooper Kid/Signature}} 13:42, 11 September 2012 (PDT)
 
:: If i could remember, it said somewhere that scout was 13. [[User:Weirdduder10|Weirdduder10]] 11:17, 14 October 2012 (PDT)
 
:::It should just be trivia. We don't know his exact age, so it would be useless to put it under bio. [[File:Killicon maul.png|40px]] [[User:Bruss48|'''Bruss48''']] [[User talk:Bruss48|T]] [[Special:Contributions/Bruss48|C]] [[File:Killicon maul.png|40px]] 11:29, 14 October 2012 (PDT)
 
::::From the Track Terrorizer description: "''...He was kicked off the team after three days when everyone realized he was 23-years-old and also not enrolled in the school.''" That's the only reference to his age I can find, and even then it still doesn't really say what his ''current'' age is. Best to leave it as unknown until some better proof comes along. {{User:Cooper Kid/Signature}} 13:28, 14 October 2012 (PDT)
 
 
 
== Incorrect BFB ammo count ==
 
 
 
The weapon list says that the Baby Face's Blaster carries 36 bullets, though it only carries 32, like all the Scout's other shotguns (excluding the Shortstop, which is a pistol/shotgun hybrid). [[User:Citizen Shane|Citizen Shane]] 14:44, 30 September 2012 (PDT)
 
: {{c|Done}}, thanks for telling this. [[File:User Hinaomi Hinaomi-sig.png]] [[User:Hinaomi|Hinaomi]] <small>([[User talk:Hinaomi|talk]]) • ([[Special:Contributions/Hinaomi|contributions]])</small> 16:33, 30 September 2012 (PDT)
 
 
 
== Scout Description ==
 
 
 
Who added in the "He has a snarky ""In-you-face" additude, is very rude, and thinks he can do just about everything.""? it sounds like whoever did that kinda hates scout. :| [[User:Weirdduder10|Weirdduder10]] 11:22, 14 October 2012 (PDT)
 
:If you're trying to say that it's too biased, then I can see why you'd think that. In my opinion, I think that it's fine with me. [[File:Killicon maul.png|40px]] [[User:Bruss48|'''Bruss48''']] [[User talk:Bruss48|T]] [[Special:Contributions/Bruss48|C]] [[File:Killicon maul.png|40px]] 11:34, 14 October 2012 (PDT)
 
::Yeah, it kinda looks hateful to be exact. [[User:Weirdduder10|Weirdduder10]] 17:04, 16 October 2012 (PDT)
 
:::I meant that the description for Scout now is fine. It doesn't feel hateful to the Scout for me. [[File:Killicon maul.png|40px]] [[User:Bruss48|'''Bruss48''']] [[User talk:Bruss48|T]] [[Special:Contributions/Bruss48|C]] [[File:Killicon maul.png|40px]] 17:06, 16 October 2012 (PDT)
 
:There used to be a taunt for the scout (you can get it back using reskins) that kinda follows up on the snarky in yo face attitude.  He steps his left book back to his right foot, leans back but still keeps his body up, and he waves his hands around like he saying "Come at me bro" [[User:ZombieNubMaster|ZombieNubMaster]] ([[User talk:ZombieNubMaster|talk]]) 17:16, 30 January 2014 (PST)
 
 
 
== Headset ==
 
 
 
The RED Scout's Headset is orange but the BLU headset is yellow, when a hat is seen on BLU (eg:Front Runner) the headset is still orange as if it was on RED.
 
Is this from the hat itself or a pic error? [[User:TugaMiguelPT|<span style="color: #990000; font-style:italic;font-weight: bold; text- shadow-red 3px 3px 5px;">TugaMiguelPT</span>]]      [[File:Buffed_red_sniper.jpg|27px]] -'''BOOM''' ''Headshot'' 04:16, 15 December 2012 (PST)
 
:: This is a problem that have appeared from the hat model itself. Sounds like a problem with the style model though. [[File:User Ravecrib9t4 Signature Logo.JPG |35px]] [[User:Ravecrib9t4|<span style="font-family:TF2 Build; color:#141414 ">TNS</span>]] 04:31, 15 December 2012 (PST)
 
::: Im pretty sure that the models for his headset are darker orange on red, as of the color guide that Valve sent for hats. [[User:Weirdduder10|Weirdduder10]] 07:09, 6 February 2013 (PST)
 
 
 
== Scout's Name ==
 
 
 
On the scout's bio, you can see this:
 
Name: Unknown.
 
I think us, the community, should think of names for the scout. [[User:ZombieNubMaster|ZombieNubMaster]] ([[User talk:ZombieNubMaster|talk]]) 17:11, 30 January 2014 (PST)
 
: No. The wiki is for OFFICIAL content. Only valve can come up with the names. Not the community as it is considered speculation. [[User:Ashes|Ashes]] ([[User talk:Ashes|talk]]) 17:32, 30 January 2014 (PST)
 
 
 
== The Real Name of the Scout ==
 
 
 
In the TF2 comic "A Smissmas Story", on page 4, you can see the Soldier yelling "JUDAS!" towards Scout. Could this actually be the Scout's real name? [[User:Fawful117|Fawful117]] ([[User talk:Fawful117|talk]]) 07:04, 17 March 2014 (PDT)
 
: We've had many speculations on this, however we're assuming its not as its not really valid proof as of now. It needs to be solid evidence, not speculation. Also to add, If you did a bombing, you wouldn't yell their real name. The scout doesn't name the soldier properly either so its just massive speculation regarding the Scout's name. Better to wait for Valve to announce it properly. [[User:Ashes|Ashes]] ([[User talk:Ashes|talk]]) 07:05, 17 March 2014 (PDT)
 
:: Well, we can't really use Soldier as the source for information on this because he isn't too smart, and can be a little delusional sometimes. [[User:Legomaster445|Legomaster445]] ([[User talk:Legomaster445|talk]]) 20:03, 17 July 2014 (PDT)
 
::: Isn't the idea that Soldier is calling the Scout "Judas" because he betrayed them as Judas did in the Bible? I'm pretty sure that this has nothing to do with his name in the slightest. [[User:CaptainCupcakez|CaptainCupcakez]] ([[User talk:CaptainCupcakez|talk]]) 02:40, 27 July 2014 (PDT)
 
 
 
== melee swing time ==
 
 
 
nowhere on his page does it mention that the scouts melee swings faster than everyone elses. this is pretty important and should be mentioned.
 
 
 
<small>— ''The preceding unsigned comment was added by'' '''[[User:DJLO|DJLO]]''' ([[User talk:DJLO|talk]]) • ([[Special:Contributions/DJLO|contribs]]) </small>
 
: We don't note the scout's melee swing is faster is because it varies on the melee weapon he uses. We can't assume its all constant. That and its kind of obvious just by pulling it out and and holding down the left mouse button. Simple comparisons. [[User:Ashes|Ashes]] ([[User talk:Ashes|talk]]) 07:56, 9 April 2014 (PDT)
 
 
 
::any aspect of the game is "obvious" if you go into the game and test it yourself. the point of an encyclopedia is to be a source of knowledge /without/ having to test something yourself. the fact that it is based on his the weapon used is a good reason, but it should still be mentioned that a stock scout swings faster. also which weapons slow him down? i didnt know there were any. [[User:DJLO|DJLO]] ([[User talk:DJLO|talk]]) 16:22, 12 May 2014 (PDT)
 
 
 
:::I think that and much else are already completely covered [[Weapons|here]] and [[Bat|here (second paragraph)]]. [[User:Mikado282|Mikado282]] ([[User talk:Mikado282|talk]]) 09:47, 27 July 2014 (PDT)
 
 
 
== Scout Weapons - Soda Popper ==
 
 
 
In the listing for all of the Scout's weapons, the Soda Popper is still listed with the negative attribute "No random Critical hits.". However, as of the patch from the 7th February, the "no random critical hits" attribute was removed (Undocumented though). Someone should correct that.
 
[[User:DatWut|DatWut]] ([[User talk:DatWut|talk]]) 04:23, 25 April 2014 (PDT)
 
 
 
== Mad Milk ==
 
 
 
As seen on the Sniper's page, the jarate '''Partially''' nullifies a spy's cloak. The Mad Milk undergoes the same process, however, it is stated that it completely nullifies it, I feel that's not the case, would anyone else agree?
 
[[User:Sargent¥|Sargent¥]] ([[User talk:Sargent¥|talk]]) 16:03, 20 May 2014 (PDT)
 
 
 
== Outdated information in Health table ==
 
 
 
Currently, the table is listing the Pretty Boy's Pocket Pistol on the table, despite its current stats not changing the Scout's base health stat. It looks a little redundant, and I'm too afraid to edit the table myself or without a go-ahead from someone. Does it need to be changed?
 
[[User:Bxtros|Bxtros]] ([[User talk:Bxtros|talk]]) 20:39, 27 June 2016 (PDT)
 
:{{c|Done}} Thanks for telling. [[File:User Hinaomi Hinaomi-sig.png|link=User:Hinaomi]] [[User:Hinaomi|Rikka Takanashi]] <small>([[User talk:Hinaomi|talk]]) • ([[Special:Contributions/Hinaomi|contributions]])</small> 02:01, 28 June 2016 (PDT)
 
 
 
== Prinny machete ==
 
 
 
Why do we have 2 seperate prinny machete's in the weapon table? I see that one is crafted and the other is promotional, but shouldn't we just have ! prinny machete and have it say crafted/promotional like the other weapons?
 
<small>— ''The preceding unsigned comment was added by'' '''[[User:Redindy|Redindy]]''' ([[User talk:Redindy|talk]]) • ([[Special:Contributions/Redindy|contribs]]) </small>
 
 
 
:Firstly, please remember to sign your posts with four tildes. Secondly, thanks for the report, I just fixed it. --[[File:User Dr. Scaphandre Golden Ghastly Gibus.png|50px|link=User talk:Dr. Scaphandre]] [[User:Dr. Scaphandre|<font color="FFDF00"><big>''Dr. Scaphandre''</big></font>]] 09:59, 4 August 2016 (PDT)
 
 
 
 
 
==Illiterate?==
 
 
 
Why does the trivia say Scout can't read? He is seen reading in the comics (In the jail cell) and he has proven that he can write in some capacity (Writing "blah blah blah" and "BANG" on his picture of the spy in the ED short is the first thing that comes to mind).  The only time he can't is when he has just been hit on the head with a giant heavy box falling from plane height. Don't you think this could just be a joke rather than an actual problem the Scout has?
 
[[User:Vibri|Vibri]] ([[User talk:Vibri|talk]]) 06:14, 10 March 2017 (PST)
 
:If you look at this [http://www.teamfortress.com/tf02_unhappy_returns/#f=24 page], you can see that he is reading a book for "Young Readers".  We could say he has a basic elementary knowledge of reading.  I will make the changes. [[Image:User Twolfe Signature.png|25px]]  ||  [[User:Twolfe|twolfe's page]]  ||  [[User talk:Twolfe|twolfe's talk page]] 07:12, 10 March 2017 (PST)
 
 
 
Ok, but what about [https://puu.sh/uFr65/71fb63a264.jpg] [https://puu.sh/uFr6w/8da6ab147e.jpg] [https://puu.sh/uFr7d/cebfcb5555.jpg] these which all show him reading full books in the ED short which is made by Valve and not a third party. Also considering that teufort is a town populated entirely by people with brain damage its quite possible that Young Readers were the only thing available.[[User:Vibri|Vibri]] ([[User talk:Vibri|talk]]) 05:44, 12 March 2017 (PDT)
 
:The first image was a book on pickup lines. Second was Dating [Something] Girls, and it also shows a tiny bit of the book's content, which looks like 3 bullet points followed by a diagram. The third is just another book, not sure about the title/content. Just putting this out here. ⇒ [[File:Leaderboard class spy.png|16px|link=]] [https://wiki.teamfortress.com/wiki/User:Anyar <span style="font-size:16px; line-height:16px;<!--
 
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::Regardless of the content of the books he is still quite confidently reading them and he has a pencil which implies he is taking notes and understands what he is reading. I think basing a characters ability to read on an interaction where they have been hit on the head,are quite possibly trying to read upside down judging from the crate and is in a comic made by a third party is a mistake.[[User:Vibri|Vibri]] ([[User talk:Vibri|talk]]) 12:27, 12 March 2017 (PDT)
 
 
 
:::First of all, make sure to write colons before your response to indent it. Second of all, he must've been hit pretty hard to not know to at least read right-side-up. The comic wasn't third party, either, it was made by Valve too. Also, "quite confidently reading them" and "taking notes and understands" can not be completely assumed from the comic. We see him looking at the open book in deep thought, but we can't be sure if he's struggling to read or if he's even reading it right. ⇒[[File:Leaderboard class spy.png|16px|link=]] [[User:Anyar|<span style="font-size: 16px; font-family: TF2 Build">Anyar</span>]] ([[User_talk:Anyar|talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Anyar|contributions]]/[[User:Anyar/No|giveaway]]) 13:12, 12 March 2017 (PDT)
 
 
 
::::Well yeah, he was hit with a box of machine guns falling from plane height. That's being hit pretty hard. Also the comic is made by a third party but is hosted by Valve.[[User:Vibri|Vibri]] ([[User talk:Vibri|talk]]) 15:40, 12 March 2017 (PDT)
 
 
 
:::::The box did have a parachute on it, and he only showed mild initial pain/shock from the collision but otherwise didn't seem to be affected at all.
 
:::::Also, there really isn't much difference between being hosted and being by Valve, otherwise we'd have to delete so much speculation on the Wiki that's based off of the comics. ⇒[[File:Leaderboard class spy.png|16px|link=]] [[User:Anyar|<span style="font-size: 16px; font-family: TF2 Build">Anyar</span>]] ([[User_talk:Anyar|talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Anyar|contributions]]/[[User:Anyar/No|giveaway]]) 17:05, 12 March 2017 (PDT)
 
 
 
::::::From what I have seen, the update comics/movies take place in a "different universe" because they don't follow the comic lore.  Also, given the fact that he can't pronounce "machine", and since he is known to "read" books, we can say that he knows how to read at the least a little bit.  That is why I put down "basic elementary knowledge of reading". [[Image:User Twolfe Signature.png|25px]]  ||  [[User:Twolfe|twolfe's page]]  ||  [[User talk:Twolfe|twolfe's talk page]] 04:26, 13 March 2017 (PDT)
 
 
 
== Dog Tag  ==
 
 
 
Dog Tag 
 
The Dog Tag saw in Scout's Neck. There is nothing but probably in there Scout's name, adress and number written (probably).
 
If you want to buy it you can buy it from Valve Store for 12 dollars. [[User:ByHiOne|ByHiOne]] ([[User talk:ByHiOne|talk]]) 16:55, 16 April 2018 (UTC)
 
: No text on [https://valvestore.forfansbyfans.com/valve-tf2-dog-tags-8845.html it]. [[User:Mikado282|<span style="font-family: Impact">'''MIKADO282'''</span><span style="font-family: Arial">'''
 
  oOOOOo oo oo  '''</span>]] 23:42, 16 April 2018 (UTC)
 
 
 
== Nathan Vetterlein ==
 
Nathan Vetterlein regularly plays in Team Fortress 2 and stream on Twitch as [https://www.twitch.tv/chiliofdestiny Chili Of Destiny]. Can anyone add this information to "Trivia"? [[User:PtokoPies|PtokoPies]] ([[User talk:PtokoPies|talk]]) 21:07, 21 October 2018 (UTC)
 
 
 
Is it really needed to add his twitch platform? i think his Youtube is more sufficent. [[File:User MrJohnson Signature.png|link=User:MrJohnson]] [[User:MrJohnson|MrJohnson]] ([[User talk:MrJohnson|talk]]) 21:12, 21 October 2018 (UTC)
 
 
 
== Shouldn't we add that Spy is (heavily implied to be) his dad? ==
 
 
 
I think the fact that Spy admits to being Scout's dad is significant enough to put on his wiki entry. Jay Pinkerton confirmed that was his intention, and even if you don't believe Spy, I think him saying that he is is worth being included. [[User:Gee|Gee]] ([[User talk:Gee|talk]]) 02:27, 21 December 2018 (UTC)
 
 
 
I honestly think it could be in trivia, but thats about it. [[File:User MrJohnson Signature.png|link=User:MrJohnson]] [[User:MrJohnson|MrJohnson]] ([[User talk:MrJohnson|talk]]) 06:15, 21 December 2018 (UTC)
 
 
 
: Not so much. What Jay has said is one thing. What has been published is another thing. Whatever is eventually published may well be a third thing. A statement of Jay's intention is Trivia. The ambiguity that has been published is [[Storyline]] rather than Trivia ( notwithstanding that actual Storyline content has been put under Trivia occasionally). Any future unambiguous statement of parentage in the media could belong under Bio. What has been published is ambiguous -- a reasonable discussion could be found under [[Storyline#The Scout's parentage]]. [[User:Mikado282|<span style="font-family: Impact"><font color="70B04A">'''M I K A D O 282'''</font></span><span style="font-family: Arial "><font color="70B04A">''' oOOOOo oo oo  '''</font></span>]] ([[User_talk:Mikado282|talk]]) ([[User:Mikado282/To Do|To Do]]) 19:32, 21 December 2018 (UTC) 19:46, 21 December 2018 (UTC)
 
 
 
== Incorrect listings for Rate of Fire on Pistols ==
 
 
 
Stock Listed as 6 r/s, winger as 5 r/s despite no reference to lesser RoF, PBPP as 4.7 r/s which is incorrect as it should be higher than stock if the firing speed is indeed increased.
 
 
 
[[User:KiNaBren|KiNaBren]] ([[User talk:KiNaBren|talk]]) 21:49, 16 March 2019 (UTC)
 
 
 
==Jerma Trivia==
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aSLf7uuMFuA
 
At around 44min, Tyler confirms that the Scout was named after Jerma985. Should we add this somewhere? [[User:Bracker|Bracker]] ([[User talk:Bracker|talk]]) 20:56, 17 September 2020 (UTC)
 
 
 
: Unless a Valve employee confirms it, no. — [[User:Tark|<span style="font-weight:bold;color: #5BC236">Tark</span>]] [[Help:Group rights#Moderators|<span class="locbg">lm</span>]][[Help:Language_translation|<span class="locbg">(pt-br)</span>]] 22:03, 17 September 2020 (UTC)
 

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October 24, 2024 Patch and BLU Scout pants

Assuming that the pants fix is permanent, should a text string template be made with default text for the undoubtedly countless instances in items, media, etc, where BLU Scout will have the old RED pants? I.e. "Since the October 24, 2024 Patch fixing a longstanding bug since release, the BLU Scout's pants are colored incorrectly"--Leaderboard class allclass.png Akolyth (talk) 05:49, 25 October 2024 (UTC)

I don't think it's worth noting and it would get incredibly repetitive to put on basically everything. We don't note that any pre-Meet the Spy Sniper appearances are missing the cut on his cheek. The plan is to only note this on cosmetic items which clash with the new pants, but only doing so after the next 2 patches. This is to give time to the creators of the cosmetic items to actually fix it due to the out-of-the-BLU nature of the change. Of course this would be assuming that this patch is a reasonable time away and not this evening.
BLU Wiki Cap.png | s | GrampaSwood Praise the Sun! (talk) (contribs) 14:01, 25 October 2024 (UTC)
You were right, I surrender. ( • ᴖ • 。) (Reverted, but I wonder if maybe Valve would ask the conflicting item creators to use that BLU workshop fix so they can do it again at some point.) is it true Valve can't edit community items without asking permission? And if so, is that just a courtesy or legal trouble?--Leaderboard class allclass.png Akolyth (talk) 23:47, 25 October 2024 (UTC)
Per the SSA, Valve can modify accepted Workshop submissions in some cases. We can only speculate the details, but that's outside the scope of wiki talk. — Tark 03:38, 26 October 2024 (UTC)