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== Userpage ==
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== 3D stuff ==
 
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COMPLETELY irrelevant to the wiki altogether, but you are the helpful kind of guy. I need a modeller for my hat idea. I have tried Facebook, Polycount, Facepunch, and my posts just get removed, even when in the right areas. I don't suppose you know of any do you? Yeah, sorry for not being on topic. [[User:Taser9001|Taser9001]] 07:51, 12 June 2012 (PDT)
I wouldn't exactly mind some help :P
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:'''I'm afraid I can't really help you there - 3D modelling is something I've been meaning to have a look into myself as I've done a bit of it at school, but I've never yet found the time. The biggest problem isn't really finding a modeller (anyone can learn to use a modelling program, and your ideas are best implemented by yourself) but finding the right modelling program to use. I've heard 3DSmax is a good one but it's an industrial program so is quite expensive. I'd suggest asking on the [http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=80 forums] to see if anyone can recommend a good program - and if I find out anything more myself I'll let you know.''' '''» [[User:Cooper Kid|<span style="color:red">Coo</span><span style ="color:gray">per</span><span style ="color:blue"> Kid</span>]]''' <small>([[User_talk:Cooper Kid|blether]]) • ([[Special:Contributions/Cooper Kid|contreebs]])</small> 16:49, 15 June 2012 (PDT)
 
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Well I found a modeller. My sister's boyfriend. XD [[User:Taser9001|Taser9001]] 11:00, 23 June 2012 (PDT)
I've been trying to find someone to help me/start it up for about 6 months now, and you're the only one that has ever offered. Thank you. <small>— ''The preceding unsigned comment was added by'' '''[[User:Growncool7|Growncool7]]''' ([[User talk:Growncool7|talk]]) • ([[Special:Contributions/Growncool7|contribs]]) 00:48, 4 March 2012</small>
 
 
 
== Rubik ==
 
There is this new guy agian called Rubik and he changed the whole Demoman biography into ''Hi, MY NAME IS YOGDEEP KALIA, IM FROM INDIA''
 
Please tell him to watch it
 
[[File:Killicon_sandman_ball.png|40px]] [[User:Lockon|<span style="font-family:TF2 Build; color:#461BE0 ">Lo</span><span style="font-family:TF2 Build; color:#B8383B ">ck</span><span style="font-family:TF2 Build; color:#000000  ">on</span>]] 05:05, 4 March 2012 (PST)
 
:'''I'm not an admin so I can't block him or anything, there's nothing more I can do that you can't, so just keep an eye on him.''' '''» [[User:Cooper Kid|<span style="color:red">Coo</span><span style ="color:gray">per</span><span style ="color:blue"> Kid</span>]]''' <small>([[User_talk:Cooper Kid|blether]]) • ([[Special:Contributions/Cooper Kid|contreebs]])</small> 06:54, 4 March 2012 (PST)
 
 
 
== Template:User Item ==
 
 
 
Why not revert it to [http://wiki.teamfortress.com/w/index.php?title=Template:User_Item&oldid=960043 this revision] for now? Wikitext seems to be pretty flaky anyways.--[[User:Fiskie|Fiskie]] <sup>[[User talk:Fiskie|Talk]] :: [[Special:Contributions/Fiskie|Contribs]]</sup>  07:25, 4 March 2012 (PST)
 
:'''Whoops, pretty sure I had reverted it - my internets must have broken =( Thanks for noticing!''' '''» [[User:Cooper Kid|<span style="color:red">Coo</span><span style ="color:gray">per</span><span style ="color:blue"> Kid</span>]]''' <small>([[User_talk:Cooper Kid|blether]]) • ([[Special:Contributions/Cooper Kid|contreebs]])</small> 08:50, 4 March 2012 (PST)
 
Hey, check this out! [[User:GordonFrohman/Item]] '''[[User:GordonFrohman|<span style="color:#32CD32;font-size:15px;font-family:'TF2 Build';text-shadow:#000000 1px 1px 0px;">Limie Pie</span>]]''' [[Image:Painted Sign of the Wolf's School 32CD32.png|25px|link=User:GordonFrohman]] 10:24, 4 March 2012 (PST)
 
:'''Nice, you got the colours working! The only other thing I had a problem with it the item name - the quality and name should be on the same line, in bold, and all the same colour as the quality (e.g. '''<span style="color:#CF6A32">Strange "Lon Lon Milk"</span>''' or '''<span style="color:#476291">Vintage Mad Milk</span>'''). If you're interested, I've been using it to display the items in my loadout; you can see how the old revision works [[User:Cooper Kid/Loadout|here]]. Thanks alot for helping!''' '''» [[User:Cooper Kid|<span style="color:red">Coo</span><span style ="color:gray">per</span><span style ="color:blue"> Kid</span>]]''' <small>([[User_talk:Cooper Kid|blether]]) • ([[Special:Contributions/Cooper Kid|contreebs]])</small> 11:21, 4 March 2012 (PST)
 
:'''OK, ignore me, I see you've already fixed all that and updated the original template. Thanks a million!''' '''» [[User:Cooper Kid|<span style="color:red">Coo</span><span style ="color:gray">per</span><span style ="color:blue"> Kid</span>]]''' <small>([[User_talk:Cooper Kid|blether]]) • ([[Special:Contributions/Cooper Kid|contreebs]])</small> 11:22, 4 March 2012 (PST)
 
Ninja'd me ;D You're welcome. Now I am trying to make the template being able to read pain cans' names, instead of codes. '''[[User:GordonFrohman|<span style="color:#32CD32;font-size:15px;font-family:'TF2 Build';text-shadow:#000000 1px 1px 0px;">Limie Pie</span>]]''' [[Image:Painted Sign of the Wolf's School 32CD32.png|25px|link=User:GordonFrohman]] 11:24, 4 March 2012 (PST)
 
:'''Nice =D Eventually I hope to be able to use named parameters as well, but I think I'll leave it be for a while. I've had enough of that template for a few days XD''' '''» [[User:Cooper Kid|<span style="color:red">Coo</span><span style ="color:gray">per</span><span style ="color:blue"> Kid</span>]]''' <small>([[User_talk:Cooper Kid|blether]]) • ([[Special:Contributions/Cooper Kid|contreebs]])</small> 11:36, 4 March 2012 (PST)
 
Heh, good luck then! But actually I'm done. Look at my [[User:GordonFrohman/Item]] again! '''[[User:GordonFrohman|<span style="color:#32CD32;font-size:15px;font-family:'TF2 Build';text-shadow:#000000 1px 1px 0px;">Limie Pie</span>]]''' [[Image:Painted Sign of the Wolf's School 32CD32.png|25px|link=User:GordonFrohman]] 11:47, 4 March 2012 (PST)
 
:'''By the way, what was actually wrong with my code? I'd be interested to know how you got it to work.''' '''» [[User:Cooper Kid|<span style="color:red">Coo</span><span style ="color:gray">per</span><span style ="color:blue"> Kid</span>]]''' <small>([[User_talk:Cooper Kid|blether]]) • ([[Special:Contributions/Cooper Kid|contreebs]])</small> 13:01, 4 March 2012 (PST)
 
 
 
You wrote <nowiki>{{paint}}</nowiki> and <nowiki>{{name}}</nowiki>, instead of <nowiki>{{paint|}}</nowiki> and <nowiki>{{name|}}</nowiki>, so IF template was not working. With symbol | it began asking for any non-empty definition. (Translation: I have no idea, I just pushed some buttons and somehow it began working. :DD) '''[[User:GordonFrohman|<span style="color:#32CD32;font-size:15px;font-family:'TF2 Build';text-shadow:#000000 1px 1px 0px;">Limie Pie</span>]]''' [[Image:Painted Sign of the Wolf's School 32CD32.png|25px|link=User:GordonFrohman]] 13:08, 4 March 2012 (PST)
 
:'''Great - it's nice to know I was only failing a little bit =) I was worried I'd done something seriously stupid.''' '''» [[User:Cooper Kid|<span style="color:red">Coo</span><span style ="color:gray">per</span><span style ="color:blue"> Kid</span>]]''' <small>([[User_talk:Cooper Kid|blether]]) • ([[Special:Contributions/Cooper Kid|contreebs]])</small> 13:19, 4 March 2012 (PST)
 
:'''I've managed to get those parameters working properly =) And I've also sent a message to everyone else who was using the template so they'll know why it's suddenly stopped working. I did originally leave it unlisted hoping that no-one would try and use it 'till it was finished, but apparently nothing can hide on the wiki =/''' '''» [[User:Cooper Kid|<span style="color:red">Coo</span><span style ="color:gray">per</span><span style ="color:blue"> Kid</span>]]''' <small>([[User_talk:Cooper Kid|blether]]) • ([[Special:Contributions/Cooper Kid|contreebs]])</small> 17:00, 4 March 2012 (PST)
 
 
 
Just wanna say thanks since the new parameter method is pretty neat. Thanks --[[User:Fiskie|Fiskie]] <sup>[[User talk:Fiskie|Talk]] :: [[Special:Contributions/Fiskie|Contribs]]</sup>  14:52, 6 March 2012 (PST)
 
 
 
== Demoman Skin ==
 
 
 
I tend to avoid custom skins, but I really envy your Demoman picture. Did you make it just for the page, or is it a real skin you can download? If so could you post the link?
 
 
 
Thank you for your time.
 
From an American Scot to one in the country.--[[User:Magnum Force-Enforcer|Magnum Force-Enforcer]] 17:06, 5 March 2012 (PST)
 
:'''Haha, I actually just recoloured it using an image editor, it's not a reskin at all =) Glad you like it though!''' '''» [[User:Cooper Kid|<span style="color:red">Coo</span><span style ="color:gray">per</span><span style ="color:blue"> Kid</span>]]''' <small>([[User_talk:Cooper Kid|blether]]) • ([[Special:Contributions/Cooper Kid|contreebs]])</small> 18:21, 5 March 2012 (PST)
 
 
 
Oh. If it was real I would love to use it.--[[User:Magnum Force-Enforcer|Magnum Force-Enforcer]] 18:41, 5 March 2012 (PST)
 
 
 
==Wikichievement==
 
Yay~ Thx =)--[[User:FreeXMan|<font style="text-shadow:green 0px 0px 9px;"><b><font FACE="Times New Roman" color="#008000">FreeXMan</font>]]</b> <font FACE="Times New Roman" color="#808080">[[User_talk:FreeXMan|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/FreeXMan|Cont]]</font></font> 06:55, 7 March 2012 (PST)
 
 
 
== [[Talk:Item sets#Split]] ==
 
 
 
I've modified it a little, so there are now three options. Could you change your message (and opinion) to reflect this? {{n}} [[User:EpicEric|<span style="color:#5885A2;font-size:15px;font-family:'Trebuchet MS';text-shadow:#e3e3e3 1px 1px 0px;"><b>Epic Eric</b></span>]] <small> ([[User talk:EpicEric|T]] <nowiki>|</nowiki> [[Special:Contributions/EpicEric|C]])</small> 13:18, 7 March 2012 (PST)
 
 
 
==Template==
 
He use ([[Special:WhatLinksHere/Template:Misc_of_the_month_image|Template:Misc of the month image]]) on the 3 pages.--[[User:FreeXMan|<font style="text-shadow:green 0px 0px 9px;"><b><font FACE="Times New Roman" color="#008000">FreeXMan</font>]]</b> <font FACE="Times New Roman" color="#808080">[[User_talk:FreeXMan|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/FreeXMan|Cont]]</font></font> 12:04, 26 March 2012 (PDT)
 
:'''I've switched the misc image template to use a new one now, it's just taking a while for the ''What Links Here'' to notice. If you think about it, the only links there are transclusions, which shouldn't be possible unless another page is linked to it directly.''' '''» [[User:Cooper Kid|<span style="color:red">Coo</span><span style ="color:gray">per</span><span style ="color:blue"> Kid</span>]]''' <small>([[User_talk:Cooper Kid|blether]]) • ([[Special:Contributions/Cooper Kid|contreebs]])</small> 12:06, 26 March 2012 (PDT)
 
 
 
== Alba gu bràth! ==
 
 
 
I complied with your request and changed my signature to a link. The reason I initially did that was because I accidentally used my real name when I signed up and I'm trying to shy away from using it (or revealing it) without having to start over. You raise a good point, so I linked my signature.
 
 
 
Anyway, cheers, and long live Scotland!
 
 
 
[[User:Jfrederickson|Reverend]] 12:20, 29 March 2012 (PDT)
 
:'''Great :) It's also handy to link your talk page in your sig, for anyone who wants to get in touch with you. And if it helps you can change the title of your userpage to match your new name by putting '''<nowiki>{{DISPLAYTITLE:Reverend}}</nowiki>''' somewhere on it (I've done a similar thing on this talk page), though it will still list your real profile name in the [[Special:RecentChanges|Recent Changes log]] when you make an edit, so if you're that worried about using it then you're best just to make a new one.''' '''» [[User:Cooper Kid|<span style="color:red">Coo</span><span style ="color:gray">per</span><span style ="color:blue"> Kid</span>]]''' <small>([[User_talk:Cooper Kid|blether]]) • ([[Special:Contributions/Cooper Kid|contreebs]])</small> 07:21, 30 March 2012 (PDT)
 
 
 
== Loadout: How to ==
 
 
 
I wanted to put up a Loadout on the bottom of my page like you have and was wondering if you could help me out. I would really appreciate it!--[[User:Magnum Force-Enforcer|Magnum Force-Enforcer]] 15:25, 8 April 2012 (PDT)
 
:'''Not a problem :) It's easy enough to do, but does require quite a lot of code so to make things simpler it's a good idea to make a separate loadout page (something like '''[[User:Magnum Force-Enforcer/Loadout]]''' would do) so that you can edit and play around with the code without having to worry about messing up your user page. You can display it on your userpage the same way you'd do so with a template on any article on the wiki, with the code '''<nowiki>{{User:Magnum Force-Enforcer/Loadout}}</nowiki>'''. You can see I've done a similar thing [[User:Cooper Kid/Loadout|here]].'''
 
:''' The next step is to get the code you need - the easiest thing to do is just copy the code from my one and edit it to suit your loadout. It's actually pretty basic - the table and tabs on the left are all done by the '''<nowiki>{{ClassTabs}}</nowiki>''' template, so all you need to change are the parameters in each of the '''<nowiki>{{User Item}}</nowiki>''' templates, the same way you use the parameters in a userbox. There's a list of parameters you can use [[Template:User Item|here]].'''
 
:'''That's really all there is to it - just keep playing around with the code till you get it right - and remember that Show Preview button =P One small word of caution though - the '''<nowiki>{{User Item}}</nowiki>''' template is still a work in progress so it might be altered in the future. I've been letting everyone who uses the template know whenever I change anything major but as more and more people are using it that's becoming more trouble than it's worth. Just don't worry if one day it suddenly goes haywire and stops working properly - that'll just be me messing around with it. It'll be fixed soon enough :) Let me know if you need any more help setting everything up!''' '''» [[User:Cooper Kid|<span style="color:red">Coo</span><span style ="color:gray">per</span><span style ="color:blue"> Kid</span>]]''' <small>([[User_talk:Cooper Kid|blether]]) • ([[Special:Contributions/Cooper Kid|contreebs]])</small> 16:28, 8 April 2012 (PDT)
 
 
 
No problems. Thanks for the help you are credit to team.--[[User:Magnum Force-Enforcer|Magnum Force-Enforcer]] 12:01, 9 April 2012 (PDT)
 
  
== Thanks ==
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== Issues regarding old discussion topics ==
  
Reads better now. [[User:TheDoctor|TheDoctor]] 15:54, 13 May 2012 (PDT)
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I understand your point on older discussions generally being disregarded by most people, and I don't do this for fun... but wouldn't it be acceptable if the discussion at hand was important (read: archive worthy) in the first place and is likely to be read by anyone despite being old? I considered doing as you said before this whole thing even happened; starting a new topic and linking it to the old. But in some cases, I think some important discussions are made to last, especially if they're unfinished/unanswered (a to-do/to-test list being a prime example). I do suppose I'm not one to change the wiki's policies, but wouldn't you agree? —[[BobMathrotus]] ([[User talk:BobMathrotus|talk]]) 14:14, 9 July 2012 (PDT)
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:'''You're absolutely right about that discussion still being relevant and I can completely understand why you thought it would be better to continue the old one, but the fact is that it was almost 2 years old, and as the subject involved testing fairly crucial aspects of the weapon, it's reasonable to assume that they've been done. The original poster hasn't even been online for over a year.'''
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:'''The bottom line is that people don't tend to go back and read old discussions. Theis one sadly is unquestionable proof of that; only 2 people replied, neither of whom actually asnwered your question, which indicates that none of the editors involved with weapon testing and weapon demonstrations even saw it.''' {{User:Cooper Kid/Signature}} 15:36, 9 July 2012 (PDT)
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Well, since I'm new to the wiki, I can't say I know long it takes to get an answer when the page itself is pretty old and stagnant (Valve hasn't touched L'Étranger in forever, so there's really no need for anyone to watch that page), but I reckon my post wasn't that old yet, and odds are someone would've answered eventually. As for assuming they've been done... I'm not sure why you would assume that, the list clearly said two of the tests were "Not done". I'm not going to lie, the original poster not being active anymore is something I was kind of expecting. However, I didn't specifically want HIM to answer. Anyone could have; this is a wiki! In the same regards, his list was left undone; anybody could finish it - just like anything on any wiki, it's a group project, after all. That's why I figured I might as well add to it (don't get me wrong, had I owned L'Étranger and known he was inactive, I would've tested it myself and edited that list to include the information, and even do the remaining tests - though you probably wonder why I even asked that if I don't own L'Étranger; well, to keep it simple, I just can't stand a wiki that's missing information, even seemingly unimportant information! That and curiosity; I have an unusually strong interest for random, nearly-useless trivia - knowing whether L'Étranger works on disguised spies would fall into that.)  
  
== This week's hat is... ==
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You're probably not one to change the wiki's policies either (I don't know how much power you have... nor if you're even an admin), but one should ponder, isn't the point of a wiki to be constantly growing and perfecting itself due to the sheer amount of people working on it? I don't think it's ever too late to answer something. New people will always be joining, and what may seem old to you may be completely new and interesting to newer members.
  
So where are these decisions coming from? If they're organized: How so? If they aren't: How do you prevent repetition? [[User:Darkid|Darkid]] ([[User talk:Darkid|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Darkid|contribs]]) 20:05, 14 May 2012 (PDT)
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Anyway, long story short: I respectfully disagree with you. I don't think my post was old enough to safely assume that nobody would have answered, and I don't think it's reasonable to assume those tests have been done. I can barely even agree on your claim that people don't read old discussions; hell, all you have to do is look at the talk page's history or the wiki's recent changes page. What section the new message is in is automatically included in the summary; it shouldn't be hard to find it from that point. Then again, maybe I'm unknowingly ranting about laziness being part of human nature (/headache). [[BobMathrotus|<font color=#CC2200>BobMathrotus</font>]] ([[User talk:BobMathrotus|talk]])
:'''I've coded a [[User:Cooper Kid/Hat image generator|number generator]] which automatically selects a random hat from a list every week. All I need to do is add new items to the list now and then, and change the [[Template:The hat of the month|template]] on the hats page at the beginning of every week. Same for miscs. There's nothing preventing items from being repeated, but there are 228 hats and 117 miscs, so the chances of the same item being picked more than once are pretty slim. It's been almost half a year since the system started and nothing's been repeated yet!''' '''» [[User:Cooper Kid|<span style="color:red">Coo</span><span style ="color:gray">per</span><span style ="color:blue"> Kid</span>]]''' <small>([[User_talk:Cooper Kid|blether]]) • ([[Special:Contributions/Cooper Kid|contreebs]])</small> 03:29, 15 May 2012 (PDT)
 
Slim is actually wrong, there. If you haven't, look at the {{w|Birthday problem}}. 228+117=345, so less than the days in the year. Sheer luck, no less, has brought us this far. That or there's a bit about the way randomness works. Regardless, if you have the time you might consider (or I might consider) attributing that duty to [[User:WindBOT|WindBOT]] or some other such bot. [[User:Darkid|Darkid]] ([[User talk:Darkid|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Darkid|contribs]]) 04:23, 15 May 2012 (PDT)
 
<br>Aha! Your random number generator is not random at all. Since it keeps the same year, and cycles through weeks, it will run through a non-repeating list of 50 hats (and miscs). However, next year there is no such guarantee, and a hat from the previous year might appear. This is likely within the tolerance of such a program. And, since hats (and miscs) keep being released, it increases the modulo. Albeit these changes *could* cause issue, but it is not likely. If you were using a random number generator, collisions become much more likely. [[User:Darkid|Darkid]] ([[User talk:Darkid|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Darkid|contribs]]) 04:34, 15 May 2012 (PDT)
 
:'''Ah, but it uses the current year as a factor in the calculation, so it ''does'' change each year. Like you said though, the number of hats and miscs changes almost every week, so that doesn't really matter. The randomness factor is of course all down to luck. One option would be to remove an item from the list once it comes up, but I decided it doesn't really matter if the same hat is picked twice - the chances of it happening for two weeks in a row are still minimal. It's an interesting experiment nonetheless - I've been expecting an item to repeat for some weeks now. <br>I had originally intended for the generator to be a duty assigned to a bot, or even to link it directly to the template so that it updated itself, but there was an issue involving the cache and increased loading times that comes with using such a complex template. Some of the mods were happy to just forget the whole thing, so I volunteered to look after it manually.''' '''» [[User:Cooper Kid|<span style="color:red">Coo</span><span style ="color:gray">per</span><span style ="color:blue"> Kid</span>]]''' <small>([[User_talk:Cooper Kid|blether]]) • ([[Special:Contributions/Cooper Kid|contreebs]])</small> 06:16, 15 May 2012 (PDT)
 
::You seem to be manually updating [[Template:The hat of the month]] and [[Template:The misc of the month]] despite the fact that they read identically to the randomness template you have. Why not link directly to the template? Additionally, since I'd like to use this template, could you(I) change the template to simply put out the name of the hat/misc, and allow for it to be used however? {{User:Darkid/Sig}} 11:14, 19 June 2012 (PDT)
 
::Edit: I actually refer to [[User:Cooper_Kid/Hat_image_generator]] and [[User:Cooper_Kid/Misc_image_generator]]. {{User:Darkid/Sig}} 11:27, 19 June 2012 (PDT)
 
:::'''I had originally intended to link the templates directly so that they updated automatically, but one of the mods (seb if I recall correctly) explained that such a big template would cause cache issues and make the Hats and Misc items pages load slowly for some users. At the time they were just about ready to scrap the whole idea so in order to keep it going I elected to look after it manually, at least until we figure out a more efficient method.'''
 
:::'''What exactly are you wanting to use the template for? It would mean an awful lot of tedious work to replace every item with a simple text entry. If it's the image box you're wanting to display you can use {{tl|Item image}} to get the same format.''' '''» [[User:Cooper Kid|<span style="color:red">Coo</span><span style ="color:gray">per</span><span style ="color:blue"> Kid</span>]]''' <small>([[User_talk:Cooper Kid|blether]]) • ([[Special:Contributions/Cooper Kid|contreebs]])</small> 12:23, 19 June 2012 (PDT)
 
::It would ideally have been for a signature; putting the hat as a link to my talk page and the misc as a link to my contribs. Using an embedded SUBST: to eliminate template calls. It strikes me that you could get one of the admins to configure their bot to do said update. Also, the removal of {{tl|item image}} can be done by me--it's just find/replace, not too hard. {{User:Darkid/Sig}} 14:58, 19 June 2012 (PDT)
 
:::'''Nice idea - though it occurred to me that I do still use the images on the random generator pages. Removing the last double-bracket from the template causes an error which actually displays all of the items on the one page, allowing me to check that all the images are working correctly. Why not just copy+paste the code into a page in your own namespace? Then you can do what you want with it.''' '''» [[User:Cooper Kid|<span style="color:red">Coo</span><span style ="color:gray">per</span><span style ="color:blue"> Kid</span>]]''' <small>([[User_talk:Cooper Kid|blether]]) • ([[Special:Contributions/Cooper Kid|contreebs]])</small> 16:12, 19 June 2012 (PDT)
 
  
==RE about the plagiarism:==
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==Thank you, kind sir==
Cooper Kid, Please let me remind you that this issue had been discussed many times in the TF2 Wiki, and I have to say that any of your concern and dissatisfaction does not happen, and will not happen in the future. After much discussion, what the Chinese did is surely not acceptable, even though with the Terms of Use. Please understand that no matter how perfect any laws and rules are, they are rigid, and need to be executed flexibly by administer. That's why admins and moderators exist, because they have to apply the rules with their careful judgment. In order to use the rules smoothly and without controversy, the moderators and admins have to learn to be flexible, so that the rules can be used with flexibility, and prevent someone to use it improperly and unjustly. That's why even though with the Terms of Use, I still need to delete those pages. Stopping the copy acts and prevent any moral injustice is my responsibility and my duty in the Wiki. So please do not think of my act as the improper act, I have to stop these act from continuing happen. It is not because I ''"feel"'', it's because I ''"have to"''.<br>Plus, even though you do not agree with any of my act, I am still a moderator. The admins gave me the power and right to delete and protect the pages, is because they trust me and my own judgment. If my acts are considered improper act, then why they still help me delete the pages when I was NOT a moderator yet? That's because they have understood the whole situation and know my requests are reasonable and commendable. Chinese is a really complicated language, I do not have the confidence to explain and make you understand. You have to trust my judgment, I did not and will not delete all the zh-hans pages just for fun or vengeance. If you still think that I am evil or outlaw, then feel free to think in that way, I will still continue blocking the users who are copying pages and delete those copied pages, and do everything that I consider right and just.<br>[[File:User ~www~ Avatar cont clear.jpg|100px|link=User:~www~|~www~]] 07:06, 19 May 2012 (PDT)
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Uh... you answered my question on the discussion of the scattergun. Was that appropriate for the discussion? I dunno, and you seem like you know this hand like the back of your wiki. A lot of people seem to like you, and I do too. [[User:GeneStealer|GeneStealer]] 08:20, 13 July 2012 (PDT)
:'''Whoa, I didn't say you were evil, did I? ;-) I wasn't fully involved with the other discussions you had about this matter, so I never heard the results - I just wanted to make sure pages weren't being deleted without good reason as the edit summary simply stated "plagiarism". I can see now that you've given it all the consideration it requires, and I'm perfectly happy with that - I really didn't mean to doubt your judgement as a moderator, and you have my apologies for the misunderstanding. Thanks for clearing everything up :)''' '''» [[User:Cooper Kid|<span style="color:red">Coo</span><span style ="color:gray">per</span><span style ="color:blue"> Kid</span>]]''' <small>([[User_talk:Cooper Kid|blether]]) • ([[Special:Contributions/Cooper Kid|contreebs]])</small> 09:56, 20 May 2012 (PDT)
 
  
== Pile O'Gifts player receiving Secret Saxton and additional item ==
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== MtM ==
  
I have used 4 [[Pile o' Gifts]] on servers with at least 24 active players to ensure the maximum efficiency of my Pile o' Gifts. The last three times using a pile every player who got a Secret Saxton (respectively 1 - 1 - 2) also got a normal weapon '''in addition to the Saxton'''. This can be confirmed by reading the server logs. Please undo the removal of the trivia on the Pile o' Gifts page. [[User:Wiethoofd|Wiethoofd]] 04:12, 28 May 2012 (PDT)
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Oh geez.
:'''You said it yourself - if you've used 4 and only in the last 3 were extra gifts given, that's not consistent enough to be deemed as regular behaviour. It's just coincidence that those four players happened to get their next drop at the same time that you used your Pile o' Gifts. There may be some hidden code which makes it more likely for drops to occur immediately after receiving a gift; I don't know, but it will take more testing to figure out for sure.''' '''» [[User:Cooper Kid|<span style="color:red">Coo</span><span style ="color:gray">per</span><span style ="color:blue"> Kid</span>]]''' <small>([[User_talk:Cooper Kid|blether]]) • ([[Special:Contributions/Cooper Kid|contreebs]])</small> 04:16, 28 May 2012 (PDT)
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What was wrong with the trivia in meet the medic?
In the chat box it said:
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Is it not fact enough, intriguing, interesting or good enough?
* Player was gifted: Secret Saxton
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I pointed out things that might have been hard to spot (not the armored authority, but jumper's jeepcap at least.)
* Player was gifted: Boston Basher
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How can you expect new editors to learn if all you 2 year veteran editors keep undoing edits without giving a proper explanation? <small>— ''The preceding unsigned comment was added by'' '''[[User:Hoboharry|Hoboharry]]''' ([[User talk:Hoboharry|talk]]) • ([[Special:Contributions/Hoboharry|contribs]]) 00:51, 17 October 2012</small>
Only the last three times there were Saxtons gifted, but when they were there was the additional line for another gift in the chat/server log.
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:'''Sorry about that, I tried to be a little more specific in my edit summary. In a nutshell, something purely observational (i.e. something that can simply be seen in the video) doesn't count as trivia. The fact that those hats are there has been added several times in the past, and it's always been removed.'''
If it had been a drop it would have said: Player found: Mannthreads, uncrating has it's own response rule in chat, as does trading and unwrapping gifts. [[User:Wiethoofd|Wiethoofd]] 04:40, 28 May 2012 (PDT)
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:'''Take a look at the [[Help:Style guide/Trivia|Trivia Style Guide]] for some more info.''' {{User:Cooper Kid/Signature}} 17:03, 16 October 2012 (PDT)
:'''That is a bit odd. Start a discussion on the [[Talk:Pile o' Gifts|Pile o' Gifts talk page]] then; if the fundamental rules of the item have indeed changed then more people will notice soon enough.''' '''» [[User:Cooper Kid|<span style="color:red">Coo</span><span style ="color:gray">per</span><span style ="color:blue"> Kid</span>]]''' <small>([[User_talk:Cooper Kid|blether]]) • ([[Special:Contributions/Cooper Kid|contreebs]])</small> 04:49, 28 May 2012 (PDT)
 
Today I used 2 Pile o' Gifts (generous mood) and the first gifted someone a Secret Saxton and additional gift. I copied the complete chat log, wrote down previous gifts given counters and will analyse my findings. Also I will start the discussion on the [[Talk:Pile o' Gifts|Pile o' Gifts talk page]] if my hypothesis is right so the Trivia section can be reinstated. [[User:Wiethoofd|Wiethoofd]] 15:02, 29 May 2012 (PDT)
 
:'''Excellent - that's the way to do it =)''' '''» [[User:Cooper Kid|<span style="color:red">Coo</span><span style ="color:gray">per</span><span style ="color:blue"> Kid</span>]]''' <small>([[User_talk:Cooper Kid|blether]]) • ([[Special:Contributions/Cooper Kid|contreebs]])</small> 15:54, 29 May 2012 (PDT)
 
  
== Bored? ==
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== Template stuff ==
  
Gender switching that important to you? Just curious because there are far more important things which could be done with a man of your intelect. [[User:TheDoctor|TheDoctor]] 07:49, 28 May 2012 (PDT)
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I guess you could say I'm hell-bent on getting rid of unnecessary templates, because they slow down the wiki (it takes longer for the script to generate the page that you see). [[User:R4wrz0rz0r|<span style="background:black;color:white;border:2px solid cyan;font-variant:small-caps;padding:2px">rZ</span>]] 13:46, 25 October 2012 (PDT)
: '''I'm unwell and it's sunny outside so I'm at a bit of a loose end. Copy + pasting a tiny line of code is easy XD How was your Wikibreak?''' '''» [[User:Cooper Kid|<span style="color:red">Coo</span><span style ="color:gray">per</span><span style ="color:blue"> Kid</span>]]''' <small>([[User_talk:Cooper Kid|blether]]) • ([[Special:Contributions/Cooper Kid|contreebs]])</small> 07:51, 28 May 2012 (PDT)
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:'''Fair enough - can't help thinking a bot would make the task a little easier mind.''' {{User:Cooper Kid/Signature}} 14:35, 25 October 2012 (PDT)
I'm also unwell but only now because my holidays are over and i sweat a lot and it's hot hot hot. Sooo my wikibreak was great but i sweat way to much atm. [[User:TheDoctor|TheDoctor]] 08:00, 28 May 2012 (PDT)
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::New script for WindBOT, I guess? [[User:Darkid|<span style="color:red">Darkid</span>]] ([[Image:Item icon Tin-1000.png|21px|link=User_talk:Darkid|alt=talk]]|[[Image:Item icon Couvre Corner.png|21px|link=Special:Contributions/Darkid|alt=contribs]]) 14:39, 25 October 2012 (PDT)
: '''This global warming, eh? ;-) Hope you feel better soon!''' '''» [[User:Cooper Kid|<span style="color:red">Coo</span><span style ="color:gray">per</span><span style ="color:blue"> Kid</span>]]''' <small>([[User_talk:Cooper Kid|blether]]) • ([[Special:Contributions/Cooper Kid|contreebs]])</small> 09:05, 28 May 2012 (PDT)
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:::WindBOT shall not disturb user/talk pages
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:::WindBOT shall not disturb user/talk pages
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:::WindBOT shall not disturb user/talk pages
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:::Those are WindBOT's Laws of WindBOTs — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 19:07, 25 October 2012 (PDT)
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::::Do not make me run a copy that doesn't give a damn about mainspaces when it comes to {{tl|w}} [[User:R4wrz0rz0r|<span style="background:black;color:white;border:2px solid cyan;font-variant:small-caps;padding:2px">rZ</span>]] 19:11, 25 October 2012 (PDT)
  
== Bad Trivia ==
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== Your signature ==
I see you removed some of my trivia on the Demoman page. Was wondering why? I did read the reason, but the fact you said, "the Demoman is obviously not of Scottish Origin," when the bio says, "Location of origin :Ullapool, Scotland, United Kingdom," seemed a bit contradicting to me. I'm not annoyed, just trying to understand if that makes sense. [[User:Taser9001|Taser9001]] 05:20, 30 May 2012 (PDT)
 
:'''OK, that was maybe a bad example - basically I was trying to say that the characters' names are irrelevant. The fact that DeGroot is a Dutch name pales into insignificance when you consider that, being black, the Demoman is obviously not of Scottish origin. There are no 'native' black Scots, so to speak. That's not to say he isn't Scottish though. The fact is that if the Medic's name was John Smith there wouldn't be a piece of trivia stating that Smith isn't a German name - it's just not that interesting.''' '''» [[User:Cooper Kid|<span style="color:red">Coo</span><span style ="color:gray">per</span><span style ="color:blue"> Kid</span>]]''' <small>([[User_talk:Cooper Kid|blether]]) • ([[Special:Contributions/Cooper Kid|contreebs]])</small> 07:41, 30 May 2012 (PDT)
 
  
== On another note ==
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Hey there. Can I ask that you subst your signature in the future, as there are long term issues with users transcluding their signatures. Thanks. '''<span style="font-family:Georgia;font-size:83%;">—[[File:User Moussekateer signature sprite.png|31px|link=User:Moussekateer]][[User:Moussekateer|<span style="color:black">Moussekateer</span>]]·[[User talk:Moussekateer|<span style="color:black;font-size:82%;">talk</span>]]</span>''' 08:10, 28 October 2012 (PDT)
I really hate to be cheeky, but could you help me set up my profile page? I've done minor edits here and there to the wiki, but I would like a decent profile page. Only problem is I'm a bit of a noob when it comes to doing so.... :/ [[User:Taser9001|Taser9001]] 05:39, 30 May 2012 (PDT)
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:'''Sure thing, just trying to keep talk pages a little tidier. Did I break something?''' '''» [[User:Cooper Kid|<span style="color:red">Coo</span><span style ="color:gray">per</span><span style ="color:blue"> Kid</span>]]''' <small>([[User_talk:Cooper Kid|blether]]) • ([[Special:Contributions/Cooper Kid|contreebs]])</small> 08:20, 28 October 2012 (PDT)
Main problem is uploading a picture and icon to my info box. [[User:Taser9001|Taser9001]] 06:17, 30 May 2012 (PDT)
 
:'''> Reply on your talk page.''' '''» [[User:Cooper Kid|<span style="color:red">Coo</span><span style ="color:gray">per</span><span style ="color:blue"> Kid</span>]]''' <small>([[User_talk:Cooper Kid|blether]]) • ([[Special:Contributions/Cooper Kid|contreebs]])</small> 07:41, 30 May 2012 (PDT)
 
::Thanks mate. Quick question. How did you do the loadout thing? I'd like that on my page. Same goes for the collection thing. [[User:Taser9001|Taser9001]] 08:22, 30 May 2012 (PDT)
 
::What I mean by that is do you have to do it manually or can you link it to your Steam profile so it automatically updates? [[User:Taser9001|Taser9001]] 08:35, 30 May 2012 (PDT)
 
:'''The [[Template:Item checklist|item checklist]] can be set up to be updated automatically by WindBOT - see [[User:WindBOT/Item checklists|here]] for full details.'''
 
:'''The loadout one is one of my own creations and a little more difficult as the only way to do it is to fill the whole thing out manually. It uses a template I made called {{tl|User Item}} which acts a bit like a userbox. The easiest way I think would be to go to my [[User:Cooper Kid/Loadout|Loadout page]], copy the code there, and paste it onto a seperate page for yourself. Then edit the values to whatever you want. There's a more detailed description on how to use {{tl|User Item}} on its page.'''
 
:'''By the way, both these pages use templates to display on your user page, to make them easier to edit. This works the same way as any template on the wiki; for example you should make your loadout page at [[User:Taser9001/Loadout]], and display it on your userpage by pasting the code <code><nowiki>{{User:Taser9001/Loadout}}</nowiki> </code>somewhere on it.''' '''» [[User:Cooper Kid|<span style="color:red">Coo</span><span style ="color:gray">per</span><span style ="color:blue"> Kid</span>]]''' <small>([[User_talk:Cooper Kid|blether]]) • ([[Special:Contributions/Cooper Kid|contreebs]])</small> 09:46, 30 May 2012 (PDT)
 
  
== Sandman Trivia ==
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== Spahcrab ==
Sorry to bug you... AGAIN. Could you have a quick look at the discussion page for the Sandman? I feel that I may have found the actual reference for the name. [[User:Taser9001|Taser9001]] 11:11, 4 June 2012 (PDT)
 
:'''No bother at all - it's why I'm here =) I've replied to your discussion post.''' '''» [[User:Cooper Kid|<span style="color:red">Coo</span><span style ="color:gray">per</span><span style ="color:blue"> Kid</span>]]''' <small>([[User_talk:Cooper Kid|blether]]) • ([[Special:Contributions/Cooper Kid|contreebs]])</small> 09:35, 5 June 2012 (PDT)
 
  
== Ye Olde Signature ==
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I see you fixed it! Generations to come for millennium shall benefit from what you have done today, I salute you!
Now then, I have sort of fixed it and it should be better now :Y [[File:User Ravecrib9t4 Signature Logo.JPG |35px]] [[User:Ravecrib9t4|<span style="font-family:TF2 Build; color:#141414 ">TNS</span>]] 06:38, 5 June 2012 (PDT)
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<small>— ''The preceding unsigned comment was added by'' '''[[User:RobTheStarCollector|RobTheStarCollector]]''' ([[User talk:RobTheStarCollector|talk]]) • ([[Special:Contributions/RobTheStarCollector|contribs]]) 21:00, 12 September 2013</small>
:'''Thankee kind sir!''' '''» [[User:Cooper Kid|<span style="color:red">Coo</span><span style ="color:gray">per</span><span style ="color:blue"> Kid</span>]]''' <small>([[User_talk:Cooper Kid|blether]]) • ([[Special:Contributions/Cooper Kid|contreebs]])</small> 09:23, 5 June 2012 (PDT)
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:'''Well, one doesn't like to blow one's own trumpet, but I do believe I've made the world a better place today ;)''' '''» [[User:Cooper Kid|<span style="color:red">Coo</span><span style ="color:gray">per</span><span style ="color:blue"> Kid</span>]]''' <small>([[User_talk:Cooper Kid|blether]]) • ([[Special:Contributions/Cooper Kid|contreebs]])</small> 13:02, 12 September 2013 (PDT)
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:: I didnt sign ;-; [[File:Critical hit.png|45px]] [[User:RobTheStarCollector|Star]][[User_talk:RobTheStarCollector|Horder]] [[File:Critical hit.png|45px]] 13:05, 12 September 2013 (PDT)
  
== I hate bad puns, but I still must give you this ==
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== Hat and Misc of the week templates ==
  
{{User:R4wrz0rz0r/rZchieve|For knowing a thing or two about {{w|lucky number}}s.}}
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Allo. Since there is no longer a real hats or miscs distinction in the game anymore, could you merge these templates into a single template in anticipation of merging the hat and misc articles? Also preferably named something like 'Featured Cosmetic', as the current names give the wrong ideas. Thanks. '''<span style="font-family:Georgia;font-size:83%;">—[[File:User Moussekateer signature sprite.png|31px|link=User:Moussekateer]][[User:Moussekateer|<span style="color:black">Moussekateer</span>]]·[[User talk:Moussekateer|<span style="color:black;font-size:82%;">talk</span>]]</span>''' 21:45, 23 December 2013 (PST)
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:'''Should've seen this coming :) Aye, I'll look into it at some point this week.''' '''» [[User:Cooper Kid|<span style="color:red">Coo</span><span style ="color:gray">per</span><span style ="color:blue"> Kid</span>]]''' <small>([[User_talk:Cooper Kid|blether]]) • ([[Special:Contributions/Cooper Kid|contreebs]])</small> 06:54, 24 December 2013 (PST)
  
I'm glad ''somebody'' got it. [[User:R4wrz0rz0r|<span style="background:black;color:white;border:2px solid cyan;font-variant:small-caps;padding:2px">rZ</span>]] 16:23, 5 June 2012 (PDT)
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== The Apoligy ==
:'''The sad thing is I failed my final maths exam in school :`( I'll take my prize in cash, thanks.''' '''» [[User:Cooper Kid|<span style="color:red">Coo</span><span style ="color:gray">per</span><span style ="color:blue"> Kid</span>]]''' <small>([[User_talk:Cooper Kid|blether]]) • ([[Special:Contributions/Cooper Kid|contreebs]])</small> 17:13, 5 June 2012 (PDT)
 
  
== Dammit ==
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Hello, I'm sorry about the covered wiki movement thingy. I was thinking about nominating the sydney sleeper when I saw a link to the [http://wiki.teamfortress.com/wiki/Covering "covered"] page. when I went to the link I saw it needed to be moved to soaked page, (at the time I forgot to read the whole disscusion thing...I'm so stupid) I wanted to help move the page so I copied the page with some minor editing from "covered" to "soaked". [[User:DrewPDrawerz|DrewPDrawerz]] ([[User talk:DrewPDrawerz|talk]]) 14:02, 17 January 2014 (PST)
 
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:'''Don't worry about it! You're doing the right thing by being bold, that's how we learn ;)''' '''» [[User:Cooper Kid|<span style="color:red">Coo</span><span style ="color:gray">per</span><span style ="color:blue"> Kid</span>]]''' <small>([[User_talk:Cooper Kid|blether]]) • ([[Special:Contributions/Cooper Kid|contreebs]])</small> 14:32, 17 January 2014 (PST)
{{User:R4wrz0rz0r/rZchieve|For making me realize the riddles I make are as easy as [insert analogy here].}}
 
Reluctantly, [[User:R4wrz0rz0r|<span style="background:black;color:white;border:2px solid cyan;font-variant:small-caps;padding:2px">rZ</span>]] 18:56, 5 June 2012 (PDT)
 
 
 
== 3D stuff ==
 
COMPLETELY irrelevant to the wiki altogether, but you are the helpful kind of guy. I need a modeller for my hat idea. I have tried Facebook, Polycount, Facepunch, and my posts just get removed, even when in the right areas. I don't suppose you know of any do you? Yeah, sorry for not being on topic. [[User:Taser9001|Taser9001]] 07:51, 12 June 2012 (PDT)
 
:I'm afraid I can't really help you there - 3D modelling is something I've been meaning to have a look into myself as I've done a bit of it at school, but I've never yet found the time. The biggest problem isn't really finding a modeller (anyone can learn to use a modelling program, and your ideas are best implemented by yourself) but finding the right modelling program to use. I've heard 3DSmax is a good one but it's an industrial program so is quite expensive. I'd suggest asking on the {{forums}} to see if anyone can recommend a good program - and if I find out anything more myself I'll let you know. '''» [[User:Cooper Kid|<span style="color:red">Coo</span><span style ="color:gray">per</span><span style ="color:blue"> Kid</span>]]''' <small>([[User_talk:Cooper Kid|blether]]) • ([[Special:Contributions/Cooper Kid|contreebs]])</small> 16:49, 15 June 2012 (PDT)
 

Latest revision as of 22:32, 17 January 2014

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Less yappin', more zappin'!
The Soldier on idle chit-chat.

3D stuff

COMPLETELY irrelevant to the wiki altogether, but you are the helpful kind of guy. I need a modeller for my hat idea. I have tried Facebook, Polycount, Facepunch, and my posts just get removed, even when in the right areas. I don't suppose you know of any do you? Yeah, sorry for not being on topic. Taser9001 07:51, 12 June 2012 (PDT)

I'm afraid I can't really help you there - 3D modelling is something I've been meaning to have a look into myself as I've done a bit of it at school, but I've never yet found the time. The biggest problem isn't really finding a modeller (anyone can learn to use a modelling program, and your ideas are best implemented by yourself) but finding the right modelling program to use. I've heard 3DSmax is a good one but it's an industrial program so is quite expensive. I'd suggest asking on the forums to see if anyone can recommend a good program - and if I find out anything more myself I'll let you know. » Cooper Kid (blether) • (contreebs) 16:49, 15 June 2012 (PDT)

Well I found a modeller. My sister's boyfriend. XD Taser9001 11:00, 23 June 2012 (PDT)

Issues regarding old discussion topics

I understand your point on older discussions generally being disregarded by most people, and I don't do this for fun... but wouldn't it be acceptable if the discussion at hand was important (read: archive worthy) in the first place and is likely to be read by anyone despite being old? I considered doing as you said before this whole thing even happened; starting a new topic and linking it to the old. But in some cases, I think some important discussions are made to last, especially if they're unfinished/unanswered (a to-do/to-test list being a prime example). I do suppose I'm not one to change the wiki's policies, but wouldn't you agree? —BobMathrotus (talk) 14:14, 9 July 2012 (PDT)

You're absolutely right about that discussion still being relevant and I can completely understand why you thought it would be better to continue the old one, but the fact is that it was almost 2 years old, and as the subject involved testing fairly crucial aspects of the weapon, it's reasonable to assume that they've been done. The original poster hasn't even been online for over a year.
The bottom line is that people don't tend to go back and read old discussions. Theis one sadly is unquestionable proof of that; only 2 people replied, neither of whom actually asnwered your question, which indicates that none of the editors involved with weapon testing and weapon demonstrations even saw it. » Cooper Kid (blether) • (contreebs) 15:36, 9 July 2012 (PDT)

Well, since I'm new to the wiki, I can't say I know long it takes to get an answer when the page itself is pretty old and stagnant (Valve hasn't touched L'Étranger in forever, so there's really no need for anyone to watch that page), but I reckon my post wasn't that old yet, and odds are someone would've answered eventually. As for assuming they've been done... I'm not sure why you would assume that, the list clearly said two of the tests were "Not done". I'm not going to lie, the original poster not being active anymore is something I was kind of expecting. However, I didn't specifically want HIM to answer. Anyone could have; this is a wiki! In the same regards, his list was left undone; anybody could finish it - just like anything on any wiki, it's a group project, after all. That's why I figured I might as well add to it (don't get me wrong, had I owned L'Étranger and known he was inactive, I would've tested it myself and edited that list to include the information, and even do the remaining tests - though you probably wonder why I even asked that if I don't own L'Étranger; well, to keep it simple, I just can't stand a wiki that's missing information, even seemingly unimportant information! That and curiosity; I have an unusually strong interest for random, nearly-useless trivia - knowing whether L'Étranger works on disguised spies would fall into that.)

You're probably not one to change the wiki's policies either (I don't know how much power you have... nor if you're even an admin), but one should ponder, isn't the point of a wiki to be constantly growing and perfecting itself due to the sheer amount of people working on it? I don't think it's ever too late to answer something. New people will always be joining, and what may seem old to you may be completely new and interesting to newer members.

Anyway, long story short: I respectfully disagree with you. I don't think my post was old enough to safely assume that nobody would have answered, and I don't think it's reasonable to assume those tests have been done. I can barely even agree on your claim that people don't read old discussions; hell, all you have to do is look at the talk page's history or the wiki's recent changes page. What section the new message is in is automatically included in the summary; it shouldn't be hard to find it from that point. Then again, maybe I'm unknowingly ranting about laziness being part of human nature (/headache). —BobMathrotus (talk)

Thank you, kind sir

Uh... you answered my question on the discussion of the scattergun. Was that appropriate for the discussion? I dunno, and you seem like you know this hand like the back of your wiki. A lot of people seem to like you, and I do too. GeneStealer 08:20, 13 July 2012 (PDT)

MtM

Oh geez. What was wrong with the trivia in meet the medic? Is it not fact enough, intriguing, interesting or good enough? I pointed out things that might have been hard to spot (not the armored authority, but jumper's jeepcap at least.) How can you expect new editors to learn if all you 2 year veteran editors keep undoing edits without giving a proper explanation? The preceding unsigned comment was added by Hoboharry (talk) • (contribs) 00:51, 17 October 2012

Sorry about that, I tried to be a little more specific in my edit summary. In a nutshell, something purely observational (i.e. something that can simply be seen in the video) doesn't count as trivia. The fact that those hats are there has been added several times in the past, and it's always been removed.
Take a look at the Trivia Style Guide for some more info. » Cooper Kid (blether) • (contreebs) 17:03, 16 October 2012 (PDT)

Template stuff

I guess you could say I'm hell-bent on getting rid of unnecessary templates, because they slow down the wiki (it takes longer for the script to generate the page that you see). rZ 13:46, 25 October 2012 (PDT)

Fair enough - can't help thinking a bot would make the task a little easier mind. » Cooper Kid (blether) • (contreebs) 14:35, 25 October 2012 (PDT)
New script for WindBOT, I guess? Darkid (talk|contribs) 14:39, 25 October 2012 (PDT)
WindBOT shall not disturb user/talk pages
WindBOT shall not disturb user/talk pages
WindBOT shall not disturb user/talk pages
Those are WindBOT's Laws of WindBOTs — Wind 19:07, 25 October 2012 (PDT)
Do not make me run a copy that doesn't give a damn about mainspaces when it comes to {{w}} rZ 19:11, 25 October 2012 (PDT)

Your signature

Hey there. Can I ask that you subst your signature in the future, as there are long term issues with users transcluding their signatures. Thanks. User Moussekateer signature sprite.pngMoussekateer·talk 08:10, 28 October 2012 (PDT)

Sure thing, just trying to keep talk pages a little tidier. Did I break something? » Cooper Kid (blether) • (contreebs) 08:20, 28 October 2012 (PDT)

Spahcrab

I see you fixed it! Generations to come for millennium shall benefit from what you have done today, I salute you! The preceding unsigned comment was added by RobTheStarCollector (talk) • (contribs) 21:00, 12 September 2013

Well, one doesn't like to blow one's own trumpet, but I do believe I've made the world a better place today ;) » Cooper Kid (blether) • (contreebs) 13:02, 12 September 2013 (PDT)
I didnt sign ;-; Critical hit.png StarHorder Critical hit.png 13:05, 12 September 2013 (PDT)

Hat and Misc of the week templates

Allo. Since there is no longer a real hats or miscs distinction in the game anymore, could you merge these templates into a single template in anticipation of merging the hat and misc articles? Also preferably named something like 'Featured Cosmetic', as the current names give the wrong ideas. Thanks. User Moussekateer signature sprite.pngMoussekateer·talk 21:45, 23 December 2013 (PST)

Should've seen this coming :) Aye, I'll look into it at some point this week. » Cooper Kid (blether) • (contreebs) 06:54, 24 December 2013 (PST)

The Apoligy

Hello, I'm sorry about the covered wiki movement thingy. I was thinking about nominating the sydney sleeper when I saw a link to the "covered" page. when I went to the link I saw it needed to be moved to soaked page, (at the time I forgot to read the whole disscusion thing...I'm so stupid) I wanted to help move the page so I copied the page with some minor editing from "covered" to "soaked". DrewPDrawerz (talk) 14:02, 17 January 2014 (PST)

Don't worry about it! You're doing the right thing by being bold, that's how we learn ;) » Cooper Kid (blether) • (contreebs) 14:32, 17 January 2014 (PST)