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Pyro knockback sources vs Giant Robots
In vanilla MvM, Pyro can easily knockback Giants with airblast and Scorch Shot, which is not intended behavior since they have built-in knockback resistance.
Are these considered bugs? If yes, are there any other pages that I should add these bug information?
Here are video links as proof:
- Airblast vs. Giants comparison (current vs Pre-Jungle Inferno)
- Scorch Shot vs. Giants comparison (vanilla MvM vs community MvM)
--Bot Rot (talk) 10:08, 14 August 2025 (UTC)
- This would just be a bug on this article + the airblast article, but the videos aren't enough to prove it. Some kind of reference to the knockback resistance + a video from before Jungle Inferno would suffice. As the first video just seems to be modified to mimic the behaviour instead of actually showing the behaviour. Same with the Scorch Shot video, that's on a modified server and doesn't really mean anything when it comes to proving the bug, just that Potato.tf has some kind of knockback reduction on giants against the Scorch Shot.
| s | GrampaSwood
(talk) (contribs) 11:06, 14 August 2025 (UTC)
- The built-in knockback resistance for all Giants is found in the robot template files that is declared in their character attributes, in particular robot_giant.pop; all Robot pages also show these knockback resistance values. In addition, the Robots page itself already mentions the knockback resistance on their section ("All Giant Robots also have resistance to knockback, except for the Loose Cannon, which pushes them either back or directly up while slowing them.").
- For the Scorch Shot, wanted to bring this bug up specifically because a patch from 2015 has fixed this issue, but the bug resurfaced in the current version so yes, Potato.TF had to modify it for their own purposes. Unfortunately I do not know when did this bug come up again.
- For the videos, I could probably find old gameplay videos somewhere that shows old airblast and Scorch Shot behavior, may take a while though so I'll ask around in the Potato community.
- Remember to indent your replies with colons.
- For the Giant resistance, that reference is fine. For the others, the video would be good.
| s | GrampaSwood
(talk) (contribs) 11:24, 14 August 2025 (UTC)
- After some digging, I have found 2 videos from almost 10 years ago from sigsegv; would they suffice? I would be glad to recreate the footage here on the current version if needed.
- Here are the video links: