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'Reissued' items
With the announcement of the new Poker Night promo items, there's now an identical version of the Lugermorph and Iron Curtain. These are identical in every way to the original one, except they're renamed from 'Lugermorph' to 'Reissued Lugermorph'. This is a first in Team Fortress 2, which means we're now wondering on how to display these:
- Remove the backpack item from the infobox and place it into a separate section somewhere, as is done on tournament medal articles such as this.
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- Keep the backpack item in the infobox, but have a separate section display either only the Reissued or displaying both (similar to Spine-Twisting Skull or Roasted Goldfish).
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- Keep the article as-is, with only the backpack item in the infobox.
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Please add your vote to the suggested idea, and feel free to comment under here.
| s | GrampaSwood
(talk) (contribs) 15:04, 11 February 2026 (UTC)
- I somehow vote the second option. The tournament medal thing seems messy and unecessary. ⋆˚࿔ ♕ 𝑅𝑒𝑔𝒶𝓁 ♕ ࿔˚⋆
𝕋𝕒𝕝𝕜 𝕥𝕠 𝕞𝕖! ⊹₊˚‧︵‿₊୨♕୧₊‿︵‧˚₊⊹ 𝕄𝕪 𝕤𝕥𝕦𝕗𝕗 𝕟 𝕖𝕕𝕚𝕥𝕤 15:25, 11 February 2026 (UTC)
The first and second options will work. But the second option is more preferable and attractive.
Second option.
Liverfull
Talk ㆍ Contributions 15:44, 11 February 2026 (UTC)
- Was thinking about #2 and #4. Both have great examples. Can't decide between two. Sorry. Revote for #2 and #4.
Liverfull
Talk ㆍ Contributions 16:56, 11 February 2026 (UTC)
- It is worth noting that whatever happens will happen to all Poker Night 1 promo items, including the Dealer's Visor, Lugermorph, License to Maim, Iron Curtain, Dangeresque, Too?, and Enthusiast's Timepiece. —
15:59, 11 February 2026 (UTC)
- Option #4:
- Can I change my votes for 1 and 2 to a vote for this? This is what I want. It's exactly what I wanted option 1 to be, but cleaner. —
16:28, 11 February 2026 (UTC)
- The issue is that the only difference is 'Reissued'. The Fire Retardant Suit has separate stats that more justify having a backpack item shown, having two different practically identical backpack items for just a single word change that's not even in the stats would be just be too much.
| s | GrampaSwood
(talk) (contribs) 16:35, 11 February 2026 (UTC)
- I would like to point out that every single vote so far has wanted the Reissued items to be displayed somewhere using their own backpack item template. Why does it matter that it specifically shouldn't be below the old one? —
16:40, 11 February 2026 (UTC)
- A discussion is for giving opinions, I gave my opinion on a newly-presented idea. I also explained why in the message.
| s | GrampaSwood
(talk) (contribs) 16:42, 11 February 2026 (UTC)
- How about like this? – BrazilianNut (talk) 17:08, 11 February 2026 (UTC)
- I don't like this second version of it. It feels disjointed and without a proper place there, the way it's separated from the loadout section, just diagonally away from it. I'd have picked option 2, having it in its own section, before I would vote for New 4. —
18:55, 11 February 2026 (UTC)
- I vote for 4 too. ⋆˚࿔ ♕ 𝑅𝑒𝑔𝒶𝓁 ♕ ࿔˚⋆
𝕋𝕒𝕝𝕜 𝕥𝕠 𝕞𝕖! ⊹₊˚‧︵‿₊୨♕୧₊‿︵‧˚₊⊹ 𝕄𝕪 𝕤𝕥𝕦𝕗𝕗 𝕟 𝕖𝕕𝕚𝕥𝕤 18:06, 12 February 2026 (UTC)
- I vote for option 2, it's the cleanest imo because it leaves the classic infobox layout untouched and just adds info about the reissued version in the article. Option 4 is second and I think which of both is purely cosmetic preference. 1 and 3 is a no-no for me. – shots fired by: Nikno {Talk | Contribs} 17:11, 13 February 2026 (UTC)
- Voting for option 4, but maybe put them in a table to make it look nicer.
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Steam
19:03, 13 February 2026 (UTC)
- You can't put it in a table with option 4, because one is in the infobox and one is outside of it (in the example, article, anyway).
| s | GrampaSwood
(talk) (contribs) 19:05, 13 February 2026 (UTC)
- Maybe put an option to have multiple backpack items in the template?
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Steam
19:22, 13 February 2026 (UTC)
- I want to clarify: option four, before it was changed, was specifically about putting the Reissued Lugermorph box exactly like the Fire Retardant Suit article, which has them together, as a somewhat conjoined backpack item part. That's the one I actually voted for, and then it changed. —
20:05, 13 February 2026 (UTC)
- I don't see any reason to create a dedicated backpack section for the "reissued version" instead of simply noting the prefix in the same paragraph that explains how to unlock it. — Tark 20:10, 13 February 2026 (UTC)
- I agree with tark. Simply note the prefix. Mediarch
♥ Talk ♥ My Edits 12:07, 28 February 2026 (UTC)
- Hey, all! I just wanted to stop by and throw my two cents into this. I'm going to vote for option 4. My concern with option 2 is that the reissued items' backpack box would be at inconsistent spots on the page. For example, the Rosted Goldfish page has the original backpack item under the trivia section, which would be way down at the bottom of most Poker Night item pages. Option 4 feels much more concise, and I think it just makes more sense to have the two backpack items together in the infobox. H20verdrive (talk) 22:25, 18 February 2026 (UTC)
'Reissued' items, take 2?
After the first three options were presented in the topic above, essentially another three were presented; not only that, one of the new options was presented as an updated version of one of the new ones (my bad). I can see this causing confusion to editors wanting to participate, as half of the options are amongst the comments and two of them are presented as one when they're different from each other (my bad). As such, I was wondering if we could start the voting anew presented in a manner that's easier to understand and contribute to:
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Remove the backpack item from the infobox and place it into a separate section somewhere.
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Keep the backpack item in the infobox, but have a separate section display the Reissued version.
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| #3 |
Keep the backpack item in the infobox, but have a separate section display both versions.
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Keep the article as-is, with only the backpack item in the infobox.
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Include both loadouts in the item infobox.
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Add the Reiussed item's loadout below the infobox in a separate box.
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Simply note the prefix in the same paragraph that explains how to unlock it.
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Feel free to edit this table to add new options at the bottom.
Mods, feel free to remove this topic if you prefer to keep this matter limited to just the previous one. – BrazilianNut (talk) 00:05, 14 February 2026 (UTC)
- The previous one is the one that'll decide the outcome. If people want to vote for a different presentation of the same basic idea (i.e., separate backpack box or 2nd in the item infobox) we can have a vote afterwards (if necessary). But currently, it seems like votes are evenly split on two ideas in the previous one.
| s | GrampaSwood
(talk) (contribs) 13:18, 14 February 2026 (UTC)
- The votes in this one at least tell us that most of the people that voted for number four previously meant the one like the Fire Retardant Suit article. We should probably take that as what number four is; if it wins, I don't think we'll have to do another vote for what it actually entails. —
13:30, 14 February 2026 (UTC)
- I like the 6th option, but I feel like it should be attached to the infobox.
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Steam
22:06, 27 February 2026 (UTC)
New sound media page proposal
Felicitations Malefactors,
I think it would beneficial for there to be a new page for miscellaneous community voice lines.
There are now several instances of non-categorical community map specific characters having voice lines. Granted, some of these characters such as the Robot Butlers and the Blood lusted voice only have voice line counts of 1-20 would be perfectly fine in the way they are presented on their map pages, but some characters like Krampus and the Boardwalk Barker their voice lines take up as much as 60% of the page. The space these voice lines take up cloud their pages to an extent that it seems to me more worthwhile to just create a new page for all of them. It'd be easy to do and would be easy to upkeep as it'd just be what we were already doing for map pages in a different location. Here is an unfinished mockup of what it could look like. What do yall think? 

22:00, 17 February 2026 (UTC)
- Map-specific content should go into the map article imo, I don't see much of a reason to note these separately. If they take up most of the article, we can simply find a way to make them collapsible.
| s | GrampaSwood
(talk) (contribs) 22:43, 17 February 2026 (UTC)
- Community announcers are map-specific content though and they have their own specific page as well though. The aforementioned examples listed Krampus and the Boardwalk Barker have 65 and 55 voice lines respectively which individually have higher amounts of voice lines than most community announcers. I believe this combined with what else I mentioned mirror the circumstances for what lead to the creation of the community announcers page from what I interpreted of the discussion that was had about that page's creation. I think it'd be good for consistency.


00:02, 18 February 2026 (UTC)
- The difference is that community announcers are all one group of a particular NPC type. 'Misc NPCs' essentially only being NPCs with voice lines while not covering other community NPCs would be odd. I don't think a consistency argument works here when the article itself would be inconsistently covering community NPCs.
| s | GrampaSwood
(talk) (contribs) 00:48, 18 February 2026 (UTC)
- I suppose thats fair. I am not entirely sure how to make a collapsible sound lists template, but in the future I’ll do that.


23:03, 18 February 2026 (UTC)