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== Icon items template ==
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<hr style="margin:1.5em 0em; background:#aaa;" />
  
I asked about this on the IRC channel, and was told that you were one of the people to ask about this. Could you please edit the [[Template:Icon item]] template to include the new Rift items? The [[Weapons]], [[Community Pyro strategy]] and [[Community Scout strategy]] pages in particular have broken image links that could be fixed. Thanks. --[[User:LordKelvin|LordKelvin]] 18:18, 4 February 2011 (UTC)
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==Well, another problem...==
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Hi, Seb. I have another thing that need your help. Yesterday the zh-hant Wiki had a new guy called [[User:Lockon|Lockon]], however he has brought a lot of trouble. First, he changed the names of items without any permission, notice or discussion. Then he ignored and deleted my waring about changing the names. He claimed that his act was trying to "make his talk page looks better". Actually, what he said was totally rubbish. The last one, which is the most unacceptable one, is that he translated the pages [[(A)Symmetry CP Contest/zh-hant‎]] and [[Dustbowl (Training)/zh-hant‎]] '''with the use of automated translation tool'''. I can easily confirm that, and my partner jcmbmhitacid can prove the point for me. Lockon used the translation tools, made the whole format of pages a mess, did not use the "show preview" button, and of course, ignore others' warning and trying to pretend that everything was normal. Therefore I strongly insist that Seb should '''block user Lockon from further editing permanently''', or he shall make more trouble and inconvenience for the editors in the zh-hant Wiki.<br>Thanks for your understanding and help, but be careful with Lockon's behavior, due to his ''own'' consideration of having no problems at all.
  
== JS/CSS compression ==
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[[File:User ~www~ Avatar cont clear.jpg|100px|link=User:~www~|~www~]] 18:49, 11 February 2012 (PST)
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:'''RE:''' I see that, thanks for your assist :). [[File:User ~www~ Avatar cont clear.jpg|100px|link=User:~www~|~www~]] 19:26, 11 February 2012 (PST)
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* '''~www~''', i had taken your advise for not using any translation tools from yesterday, and today i added some missing photos which should have been there[[Merc_Medal/zh-hant]]. Also i did a page without any translation tools which is the [[Aerial/zh-hant]] so i hope you please consider i have taken your complains and improved it thank you.
  
Ohai, I just moved around the JS and CSS of the site quite a bit.
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[[User:Lockon|Lockon]] 09:03, 14 February 2012 (PST) Lockon
* Deleted [[MediaWiki:DynamicBackground.js]] and [[MediaWiki:Egg.js]] and merged them with [[MediaWiki:Common.js]]
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::You called that translating? You copied [[Aerial/zh-hant]] from zh-hans![[File:User ~www~ Avatar cont clear.jpg|100px|link=User:~www~|~www~]] 09:26, 14 February 2012 (PST)
** 2 HTTP requests sawed off each page load
 
* Blanked [[MediaWiki:Valve.js]] (also merged with [[MediaWiki:Common.js]])
 
** Makes it easier to manage scripts; both .js files are combined server-side, so it makes little difference to have them in one or the other. Since we only have one skin, it also makes little sense to separate both. Having them all in one file removes the "Now where did I put that code" moment
 
* Moved all [[MediaWiki:Common.js]] code to [[MediaWiki:Common.js/Code.js]]
 
** This page holds the readable version of [[MediaWiki:Common.js]]
 
* Compressed [[MediaWiki:Common.js]] using http://jscompress.com/ (Packer Method)
 
** Much smaller, thus much faster to load
 
* Blanked [[MediaWiki:Valve.css]] (merged with [[MediaWiki:Common.css]])
 
** Same rationale as Valve.js
 
* Moved all [[MediaWiki:Common.css]] code to [[MediaWiki:Common.css/Code.css]]
 
** Again same rationale as [[MediaWiki:Common.js]]
 
* Compressed [[MediaWiki:Common.css]] using http://www.csscompressor.com/ (Highest)
 
** Again, much smaller, thus much faster to load
 
Hope that's okay :3 It does mean more steps whenever we need to poosh new JS code, but it means noticeably faster loading times (try it, browse around while your cache still has the old copy, Ctrl+F5, and then keep browsing around) — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 20:47, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
 
  
== Bot Question  ==
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Chinese Simplify and Chinese Traditional is the same pal{{Cross}}, its just different writing, one is easier to write and also its not all the same, also check it agian some items or classes like is changed by me zh-hans: Soldier = 士兵 and zh-hant: Soldier 火箭兵
  
I have a long article with mostly links. [[Unused content|Unused Content]] <- this ist it. Wanted to translate it into german. I translated all beta weapons and so i hoped that your bot can use the displaytitle on every german page and makes the english ones german.
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[[User:Lockon|Lockon]] 09:53, 14 February 2012 (PST)Lockon
For example:
 
[[Overhealer]] change into [[Overhealer/de|Überheiler]] <- is this possible ? Because there are many links and names to change....this would take a while... [[User:Godlike11219|NoWhereMan_(DSvY)]] 19:14, 8 February 2011 (UTC)
 
  
:Unfortunately this isn't something the bot is capable of, sorry &ndash; [[User:Seb26|<font color="#000">'''seb26'''</font>]] [[User talk:Seb26|<span style="font-size:95%; color:#0070FF;">[talk]</span>]] 06:47, 9 February 2011 (UTC)
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==Further problems==
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1.Lockon keeps on doing unnecessary edits to zh-hant. For example, He was doing pointless changes to zh-hant pages, copied the article ''from zh-hans'' and made it as a contribution, or kept placing <nowiki>{{subst:welcome}}</nowiki> to anyone who are new to wiki, even though he himself are a new guy, I don't even know if there's a real account where he put <nowiki>{{subst:welcome}}</nowiki>. Frankly, I suggest blocking him, quickly, or he will do more things that he claims "contribution to wiki".
  
::It may sound a bit arrogant but you can't maybe think about a way to implement that? I know about the hats and other items to be in templates used with language switches. Couldn't it be maybe made possible to gather all relevant german wiki articles and save there real names(which are needed), and then used it and replace the german with the english linkin. Just curiously thinking about it. [[User:Godlike11219|NoWhereMan_(DSvY)]] 06:53, 9 February 2011 (UTC)
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2.Same problem, different day, User [[User:Bestipod|Bestipod]] was coping the zh-hant pages (5 pages for now) and converted it into zh-hans. Could need your help to delete the pages.
  
:::The thing is that I'm not a programmer and most edits made by the 'bot' are just me using an automated editing program ;) I really wouldn't know where to start to create something to do a task like this. Templates with language switching could be used on the pages but I believe that the item name templates aren't used generally inside articles and instead inside other templates (such as the navigation boxes & blueprint tables, etc). For the unused content page, I suppose there's a lot of pages to look through, but by quickly flicking through open tabs you could probably have it done pretty fast heh. Sorry I couldn't have been of more assistance. [[User:Seb26|<font color="#000">'''seb26'''</font>]] [[User talk:Seb26|<span style="font-size:95%; color:#0070FF;">[talk]</span>]] 07:04, 9 February 2011 (UTC)
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3.Actually, after being copied for many many times, I am angry, tired, exhausted of their acts. I don't think I can take it anymore. I really wish there's a solution of stopping these acts forever.<br>Really apperciate your help, Seb. [[File:User ~www~ Avatar cont clear.jpg|100px|link=User:~www~|~www~]] 08:51, 14 February 2012 (PST)
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:I'd like to ask a related question - setting aside the fact that zh-hant is not the same as zh-hans, is there actually any rule against copying the content of a page? As far as I'm concerned, any information posted on the wiki is free for public use so can be copied anywhere - excepting of course images and such which have licenses attached. From what I can tell the issue with Bestipod is not that he made bad translations, but that his source material was ~www~'s work. '''» [[User:Cooper Kid|<span style="color:red">Coo</span><span style ="color:gray">per</span><span style ="color:blue"> Kid</span>]]''' <small>([[User_talk:Cooper Kid|blether]]) • ([[Special:Contributions/Cooper Kid|contreebs]])</small> 09:59, 14 February 2012 (PST)
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:: There are no rules/laws against copying wiki work. This is why some content could be migrated from the old Wiki here and why the fact that some of the pages here are copied directly over there are not punishable. --{{User:Firestorm/sig}} 10:04, 14 February 2012 (PST)
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:::So you guys are saying that it's OK to let zh-hans coping our works without any efforts of translating the pages from scratch?[[File:User ~www~ Avatar cont clear.jpg|100px|link=User:~www~|~www~]] 10:06, 14 February 2012 (PST)
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:::: I never said that. In the case of these translations, it is NOT ok. The problem is not in the copying of another's work, but in the usage of the incorrect language on an article. I am simply clarifying where the issue is. --{{User:Firestorm/sig}} 10:08, 14 February 2012 (PST)
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:::::Understand you meaning. However Firestorm, you should know that the coping done by zh-hans translators is always a trouble to all zh-hant translators.[[File:User ~www~ Avatar cont clear.jpg|100px|link=User:~www~|~www~]] 10:17, 14 February 2012 (PST)
  
::::No problem. I'm by myself aren't capable of doing things with bots, i have many ideas but don't know the things behind it. So i will do it the oldschool way like i always do and start editin by hand using my editor(notepad) and startin with replacin after finding one name and will revert it slowly like always. Just thought there is maybe some clever guy who has an idea about my issue, there is always a guy like this...most of the time 3years later rollin his dice, and sayin (later then) how stupid the people were these days and he knew it all day long...Whatever i'm pleased enough with your answer and will do it the old way. [[User:Godlike11219|NoWhereMan_(DSvY)]] 07:23, 9 February 2011 (UTC)
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== 我是冤枉的 ==
  
== Localizing navigation bar URLs on subpages ==
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1 我是一个TF2的爱好者,我使用简体汉语。
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2 我们只是文字上的不同,在使用上简体汉字和繁体汉字几乎没有差别。{{Cross}}
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3 我希望您公正的看待这一问题,WIKI是一个贡献社区,我并没有抄袭任何人的。
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4 我希望管理员您能继续让我为TF2 WIKI做贡献。
  
Hello,
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==To Bestipod & Lockon==
I'm relatively new on this Wiki, so I'm not sure that the following suggestion hasn't already been discussed before.
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I can firmly say that zh-hant and zh-hans are '''totally different'''. I am tired to argue this old issue, I say that we leave the judgment to the top admins.[[File:User ~www~ Avatar cont clear.jpg|100px|link=User:~www~|~www~]] 10:01, 14 February 2012 (PST)
  
When you create an article a level under an already existing article, you get a nice navigation bar that can quickly get you back to the root article. The problem is that when the page you're browsing is localized, the links in that navigation bar will bring you on the English version of the wiki... and not on the localized version you were using.
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Ok, your still the old member around here you can decide
  
This picture sums it up pretty well : [http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/6640/tf2wikinavigation.png http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/6640/tf2wikinavigation.th.png] . As you can see, in this example ''/fr'' should be appended to the root "WebAPI" link.
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[[User:Lockon|Lockon]] 10:16, 14 February 2012 (PST)Lockon
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i am do my work very hard ,because they are'''totally different''', [[User:Bestipod|Bestipod]]
  
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I have posted a topic at [[Team Fortress Wiki:Discussion#zh translation]] relating to this. [[user:seb26|<small style="background:#f9f9f9;border:1px solid #0070FF;padding:0em 0.5em;color:#000;-webkit-box-shadow:2px 1px 1px #8BBEFF;">'''seb26'''</small>]] 12:25, 14 February 2012 (PST)
  
I first asked [[User:Moussekateer|Moussekateer]] about it and he told me I should drop a line on your talk page, so here I am. <span style="border: 1px red; border-style:solid; padding:0px 2px 2px 2px; background-color:orange; font-weight:bold"> [[File:User_Heffebaycay_stslogo.png]] [[User:Heffebaycay|&nbsp;Heffebaycay&nbsp;]]</span> 16:53, 13 February 2011 (UTC)
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Thx for the solution of the chinese wiki
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[[User:Lockon|Lockon]] 12:41, 14 February 2012 (PST)Lockon
  
:I'm not sure of a proper fix to this problem. Some JS code could be written to correct the links but it seems like a hacky solution for something that only occurs on a small section of pages. I'll look into it nevertheless but I suggest maybe creating a navigation bar-type thing for the WebAPI pages? That would probably be the best solution. [[User:Seb26|<font color="#000">'''seb26'''</font>]] [[User talk:Seb26|<span style="font-size:95%; color:#0070FF;">[talk]</span>]] 19:58, 13 February 2011 (UTC)
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==The future of zh-hant==
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Seb, it's ~www~. After a few days of thinking, I think I need to discuss something critical about zh-hant with you on Steam privately. I don't know when can I contact you, so I guess that Saturday or Sunday night will be fine? [[File:User ~www~ Avatar cont clear.jpg|100px|link=User:~www~|~www~]] 07:39, 17 February 2012 (PST)
  
== Text shadowing ==
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== Hi seb ==
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Hi seb, lockon told me to find you for advise for editing and translating (check his discussion to see). I wan't to ask how to translate a good quality piece or edit a good quality piece of work?
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[[User:Spytron|Spytron]] 01:47, 18 February 2012 (PST)Spytron
  
Wow, I like it! I even used it in the CSS of my server's MOTD on like, everything ''(though I did change the color to #13110E, abit darker)''. But hey, here's an idea: If I think the text shadowing looks good on that quality hex code chart, maybe you should start a new wiki-wide poll/discussion, and see what people think of the text shadowing. If enough people like it, then I say add the text shadowing to the itembox template. What do you think?
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== t alternation with regard to style statement. ==
  
By the way, here's what the item quality template would look like if you changed the background behind the text to #24201B, and changed the text-shadow to #13110E. Personally, I think it looks alot better. [[User:404 User Not Found|404 User Not Found]] 18:47, 17 February 2011 (UTC)
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| style="background:#24201B; text-shadow:2px 1px 1px #13110E; text-align:center;" | {{tf2b|The Degreaser|quality=unique}}
 
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! style="background:#476291" | #476291
 
| [[#Vintage Items|Vintage]]
 
| style="background:#24201B; text-shadow:2px 1px 1px #13110E; text-align:center;" | {{tf2b|Vintage Natascha|quality=vintage}}
 
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! style="background:#4D7455" | #4D7455
 
| [[#Genuine Items|Genuine]]
 
| style="background:#24201B; text-shadow:2px 1px 1px #13110E; text-align:center;" | {{tf2b|Genuine Sun-On-A-Stick|quality=genuine}}
 
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! style="background:#8650AC" | #8650AC
 
| [[#Unusual Items|Unusual]]
 
| style="background:#24201B; text-shadow:2px 1px 1px #13110E; text-align:center;" | {{tf2b|Unusual Napper's Respite|quality=unusual}}
 
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! style="background:#70B04A" rowspan="2"| #70B04A
 
| [[#Community Items|Community]]
 
| style="background:#24201B; text-shadow:2px 1px 1px #13110E; line-height:0.5em; text-align:center;" | {{tf2b|Community Medi Gun|quality=community}}
 
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| [[#Self-made Items|Self-made]]
 
| style="background:#24201B; text-shadow:2px 1px 1px #13110E; line-height:0.5em; text-align:center;" | {{tf2b|Self-Made Dalokohs Bar|quality=self-made}}
 
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! style="background:#A50F79" | #A50F79
 
| [[#Valve Weapons|Developer]]
 
| style="background:#24201B; text-shadow:2px 1px 1px #13110E; text-align:center;" | {{tf2b|Valve Rocket Launcher|quality=valve}}
 
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== New Class Navs ==
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Greetings, Wintergreen [[User_talk:Wintergreen#Hat_Tab_Concept|suggested]] that I ask you about the new Navs. I don't think that he/she trusts me though, which may explain why there is a note pinned to my clothing. Let's see, what does it say... Oh yes, I am supposed to ask you about the [[Template:All_class_nav]], and how Wintergreen and I should proceed. Does anything more need to be done? Is any tweaking required? Just let us know if you would be so kind. [[User:Esquilax|Esquilax]] 23:27, 20 February 2011 (UTC)
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  ,Oakley is usually a one of a kind set of scientific, artistic, unyielding challenge in the conventional thinking from the cultural heritage, but in addition fairly persistent.
  
== Need to talk to you ==
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  , Jupiter Squared sunglasses are spread working with a 3-Level In shape plus they're also constructed of strain-proof A Challenge frame this will likely allow you to Plutonite that prevents out 100Per-cent of Ultra violet and dangerous blue glow to 400mm.
  
Seb, I need to speak with you over steam at some point, when you have time. --[[User:Org|Org]] 08:34, 25 February 2011 (UTC)
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  , As an example, Connaught Cluster possessed quite little bucks!.
  
== Model Viewer ==
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  ,Woodwear is committed to assisting other those that are making a optimistic influence.
  
Hi, it's possible to do [http://www.andrewhatch.net/2010/11/flash-collada-3d-model-viewer-in-flex.html this] for a fast view of weapons (and with other items)? I think that's it a great idea for the wiki =D [[User:Dio|Dio]] 00:54, 27 February 2011 (UTC)
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:wat
  
:It's a nice idea but it's unlikely to ever happen, in my opinion... it would require porting several parts of the Source Engine into a format readable by a Flash web app to get any sort of accurate lighting or perception of textures (and less Flash is better, honestly). It'd also mean uploading the actual model files onto the server (which is a bad idea for several reasons). So yah :P Sorry. [[user:seb26|<small style="background:#f9f9f9;border:1px solid #EA6B1C;padding:0em 0.5em;color:#000;-webkit-box-shadow:2px 1px 1px #FBAA78;">'''seb26''' ''01:02, 27 February 2011''</small>]] 01:02, 27 February 2011 (UTC)
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== Cleaning policy of your own talk page ==
::I saw a flashless model viewer not so long ago. [http://hideou.se/modelviewer.html?obj=/models/medieval_flamer.obj&tex=/models/medieval_flamer.jpg&spec=/models/medieval_flamer_spec.jpg Here is an example]. [https://bitbucket.org/doeke/webgl-model-viewer/src Source here]. It would be pretty useful on the wiki, but again, it would require uploading the models. &ndash; [[User:Smashman|<font color=#507D2A>Smashman</font>]]<sub>&nbsp;([[User_talk:Smashman|talk]])</sub> 01:14, 27 February 2011 (UTC)
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:::Neat, but I don't think that that has the capability to render accurately to the game's engine. It'd also mean ''a lot'' of extra work given that none of the game's models nor textures are in any of the supported formats. [[user:seb26|<small style="background:#f9f9f9;border:1px solid #EA6B1C;padding:0em 0.5em;color:#000;-webkit-box-shadow:2px 1px 1px #FBAA78;">'''seb26''' ''01:22, 27 February 2011''</small>]] 01:22, 27 February 2011 (UTC)
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Hey,
::::I understand, it's much content for upload. I saw something like this in a wiki of WoW so I thought it was easy to do. [[User:Dio|Dio]] 01:28, 27 February 2011 (UTC)
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As you've been away for a rather long time, I wanted to inform you that policy about cleaning your own talk page has changed; you can now clean it up. I thought that maybe I should tell you when that kind of spam post was posted into your talk page, so you can get rid of it if you want.
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-[[User:Asplode|Asplode]] ([[User talk:Asplode|talk]]) 02:52, 28 June 2013 (PDT)
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: I can assure you that removing of spam was never disallowed, only the removal of warnings and cautions from staff. &ndash; [[User:Smashman|<font color=#507D2A>Smashman</font>]]<sub>&nbsp;([[User_talk:Smashman|talk]])</sub> 04:28, 28 June 2013 (PDT)
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== Emergency wiki cap nomination meeting 1.0 ==
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A user hit 1 year in nomination queue due to lack of staff votes. We held an emergency meeting in IRC on Tuesday, May 17, and the result was [[Team_Fortress_Wiki_talk:Wiki_Cap/Nominations#Emergency meeting 1.0|this]]. Seb26, please provide some feedback! [[User:Darkid|'''<span style="color: #db9c1f">Darkid</span>''']] « [[User talk:Darkid|<span style="color: #75735F">Talk</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Darkid|<span style="color: #BA0000">Contribs</span>]] » 22:13, 17 May 2016 (PDT)

Latest revision as of 05:14, 18 May 2016


Well, another problem...

Hi, Seb. I have another thing that need your help. Yesterday the zh-hant Wiki had a new guy called Lockon, however he has brought a lot of trouble. First, he changed the names of items without any permission, notice or discussion. Then he ignored and deleted my waring about changing the names. He claimed that his act was trying to "make his talk page looks better". Actually, what he said was totally rubbish. The last one, which is the most unacceptable one, is that he translated the pages (A)Symmetry CP Contest/zh-hant‎ and Dustbowl (Training)/zh-hant‎ with the use of automated translation tool. I can easily confirm that, and my partner jcmbmhitacid can prove the point for me. Lockon used the translation tools, made the whole format of pages a mess, did not use the "show preview" button, and of course, ignore others' warning and trying to pretend that everything was normal. Therefore I strongly insist that Seb should block user Lockon from further editing permanently, or he shall make more trouble and inconvenience for the editors in the zh-hant Wiki.
Thanks for your understanding and help, but be careful with Lockon's behavior, due to his own consideration of having no problems at all.

~www~ 18:49, 11 February 2012 (PST)

RE: I see that, thanks for your assist :). ~www~ 19:26, 11 February 2012 (PST)
  • ~www~, i had taken your advise for not using any translation tools from yesterday, and today i added some missing photos which should have been thereMerc_Medal/zh-hant. Also i did a page without any translation tools which is the Aerial/zh-hant so i hope you please consider i have taken your complains and improved it thank you.

Lockon 09:03, 14 February 2012 (PST) Lockon

You called that translating? You copied Aerial/zh-hant from zh-hans!~www~ 09:26, 14 February 2012 (PST)

Chinese Simplify and Chinese Traditional is the same palPictogram cross.png , its just different writing, one is easier to write and also its not all the same, also check it agian some items or classes like is changed by me zh-hans: Soldier = 士兵 and zh-hant: Soldier 火箭兵

Lockon 09:53, 14 February 2012 (PST)Lockon

Further problems

1.Lockon keeps on doing unnecessary edits to zh-hant. For example, He was doing pointless changes to zh-hant pages, copied the article from zh-hans and made it as a contribution, or kept placing {{subst:welcome}} to anyone who are new to wiki, even though he himself are a new guy, I don't even know if there's a real account where he put {{subst:welcome}}. Frankly, I suggest blocking him, quickly, or he will do more things that he claims "contribution to wiki".

2.Same problem, different day, User Bestipod was coping the zh-hant pages (5 pages for now) and converted it into zh-hans. Could need your help to delete the pages.

3.Actually, after being copied for many many times, I am angry, tired, exhausted of their acts. I don't think I can take it anymore. I really wish there's a solution of stopping these acts forever.
Really apperciate your help, Seb. ~www~ 08:51, 14 February 2012 (PST)

I'd like to ask a related question - setting aside the fact that zh-hant is not the same as zh-hans, is there actually any rule against copying the content of a page? As far as I'm concerned, any information posted on the wiki is free for public use so can be copied anywhere - excepting of course images and such which have licenses attached. From what I can tell the issue with Bestipod is not that he made bad translations, but that his source material was ~www~'s work. » Cooper Kid (blether) • (contreebs) 09:59, 14 February 2012 (PST)
There are no rules/laws against copying wiki work. This is why some content could be migrated from the old Wiki here and why the fact that some of the pages here are copied directly over there are not punishable. --User Firestorm Flame.png Firestorm 10:04, 14 February 2012 (PST)
So you guys are saying that it's OK to let zh-hans coping our works without any efforts of translating the pages from scratch?~www~ 10:06, 14 February 2012 (PST)
I never said that. In the case of these translations, it is NOT ok. The problem is not in the copying of another's work, but in the usage of the incorrect language on an article. I am simply clarifying where the issue is. --User Firestorm Flame.png Firestorm 10:08, 14 February 2012 (PST)
Understand you meaning. However Firestorm, you should know that the coping done by zh-hans translators is always a trouble to all zh-hant translators.~www~ 10:17, 14 February 2012 (PST)

我是冤枉的

1 我是一个TF2的爱好者,我使用简体汉语。 2 我们只是文字上的不同,在使用上简体汉字和繁体汉字几乎没有差别。Pictogram cross.png  3 我希望您公正的看待这一问题,WIKI是一个贡献社区,我并没有抄袭任何人的。 4 我希望管理员您能继续让我为TF2 WIKI做贡献。

To Bestipod & Lockon

I can firmly say that zh-hant and zh-hans are totally different. I am tired to argue this old issue, I say that we leave the judgment to the top admins.~www~ 10:01, 14 February 2012 (PST)

Ok, your still the old member around here you can decide

Lockon 10:16, 14 February 2012 (PST)Lockon

i am do my work very hard ,because they aretotally different, Bestipod

I have posted a topic at Team Fortress Wiki:Discussion#zh translation relating to this. seb26 12:25, 14 February 2012 (PST)

Thx for the solution of the chinese wiki Lockon 12:41, 14 February 2012 (PST)Lockon

The future of zh-hant

Seb, it's ~www~. After a few days of thinking, I think I need to discuss something critical about zh-hant with you on Steam privately. I don't know when can I contact you, so I guess that Saturday or Sunday night will be fine? ~www~ 07:39, 17 February 2012 (PST)

Hi seb

Hi seb, lockon told me to find you for advise for editing and translating (check his discussion to see). I wan't to ask how to translate a good quality piece or edit a good quality piece of work? Spytron 01:47, 18 February 2012 (PST)Spytron

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Cleaning policy of your own talk page

Hey,

As you've been away for a rather long time, I wanted to inform you that policy about cleaning your own talk page has changed; you can now clean it up. I thought that maybe I should tell you when that kind of spam post was posted into your talk page, so you can get rid of it if you want.

-Asplode (talk) 02:52, 28 June 2013 (PDT)

I can assure you that removing of spam was never disallowed, only the removal of warnings and cautions from staff. – Smashman (talk) 04:28, 28 June 2013 (PDT)

Emergency wiki cap nomination meeting 1.0

A user hit 1 year in nomination queue due to lack of staff votes. We held an emergency meeting in IRC on Tuesday, May 17, and the result was this. Seb26, please provide some feedback! Darkid « TalkContribs » 22:13, 17 May 2016 (PDT)