Talk:Market Gardener

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Advanced Weaponiser

This weapon is a lot similar to the Advanced Weaponiser weapon Maraudor's Mace; Both crit during a Rocket Jump. The only difference is that the Maraudor's Mace also does it 2 seconds after, and has alternative downsides. I reckon it's worth a mention in the trivia. Mecha the Slag 14:38, 23 June 2011 (PDT)

They mention the fact the Back Scratcher is from the Advanced Weaponiser too, so I guess it would count as trivia. Leaderboard class soldier.pngJust a Gigolo - (talk) 13:24, 28 June 2011 (PDT)

name reference

Considering the World War theme for Day 3 I think the name of this weapon might be related to "Operation Market Garden", the largest airborne operation at that time. Thoughts? SkillerBehindYou 17:38, 22 June 2011 (PDT)

  • Sounds pretty darn likely. Considering this shovel was advertised as a garden shovel in the Polycount Set it was in, it probably refers to it. Painted Vintage Merryweather 7E7E7E.pngFyahweather 17:41, 22 June 2011 (PDT)
    • why do we have the trivia for market garden for restaurants? i don't see how it's a reference.--FactCore 04:24, 27 July 2011 (PDT)
      • Well, Operation Market Garden was named after the phrase "Market Garden", but I think you're right, it seems a bit pointless to describe that - kind of like X of Y trivia. The shovel is obviously named after the operation, not the area of land called a Market Garden. » Cooper Kid (Blether · Contreebs) 18:00, 27 July 2011 (PDT)

Exact time for crits?

i read the article and noticed it said "deals crits wile the weilder is rocket jumping, and shortly after he lands" i did some tests on this, and it seems that the second part of that is untrue, it only deals crits wile your airborne(rocket jumping), not shortly after that. i am almost certain that this is the case, but i may be incorrect, as it may for some reason only be me and my computer.Firehazard42 18:16, 11 October 2011 (PDT)

The "shortly after" is a time frame of maybe half a second, so it's really easy to miss. --Digifreek 20:31, 28 July 2012 (PDT)
If you post without looking at the last post date again, we have somethings to talk. User Hinaomi Hinaomi-sig.png Hinaomi (talk) - (contributions) 20:55, 28 July 2012 (PDT)

Older Picture

In the Trivia it talks about how it's appearance changed. There is a picture of the old one on the Polycount website linked here: --Magnum Force-Enforcer 13:11, 26 March 2012 (PDT)

A picture of the actual shovel?

Maybe a picture of the actual shovel would add more content Canucka 14:21, 14 May 2013 (PDT)

Bug or not?

Here, if you keep your momentum by jumping after landing the rocket jump, you can still crit with Market Gardener. Is this a bug or not? User Hinaomi Hinaomi-sig.png Rikka Takanashi (talk) • (contributions) 17:21, 22 August 2013 (PDT)

I added it to the page, but the sentence structure I used seems off. I would have to assume it's a bug since A: The timing is way too exact to be a mechanic and B: The lack of this mentioned in patch notes indicates it's been there since the item was made.

The preceding unsigned comment was added by KazooieBanjo (talk) • (contribs)

Should this go under triva?

The fact you can kill more then one person with the market gardener in a rocket jump, not using a bug. Most people most likey don't know this. Source Princess Cherry (talk) 07:47, 3 May 2014 (PDT)

I don't think it's noteworthy or even a bug. The description just says "Deals crits while the wielder is rocket jumping". There's no limitation of kills while doing the rocket jump.
~{ TidB | t | c }~ 07:54, 3 May 2014 (PDT)

True but its not often that a common player will have seen it or have done it in game. Princess Cherry (talk) 09:13, 3 May 2014 (PDT)

Even so, its not noteworthy. The amount of luck and or skill required to do a double kill with X weapon does not make it trivia. Ashes (talk) 10:20, 3 May 2014 (PDT)

This and the gunboats should be for demoman too.

I think this should be for Demoman, Cause he can Sticky jump and that is considered blast jumping. And i also think the Gunboats should also be for Demoman. Asome3333e1 (talk) 14:27, 12 February 2016 (PST)

This sort of discussion would be better suited on places such as the SPUF or Reddit. Discussion pages are only meant for discussing the content of the page, not suggestions/general thoughts of the item. Ashes (talk) 15:16, 12 February 2016 (PST)