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== Item sets with reskins ==
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== Departure ==
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I decided to quit wiki, it's not about the conflict between me and [[User:Boba|that person]], but it's mainly because of [https://imgur.com/a/giYTRvM how people threated me here in the recent year]. I lost motivation because of it. Always threated me like a bad person. I thought about quitting years ago. It's hard to maintain the mental level to above average. But with the recent behavior I received, I decided to do it. It's heart broken for me to leave the site that make me be me. But this place is no longer the place I used to know anymore.
  
Hi, this is about [[Mutated_Milk]] and your comment suggested it is changeable the item sets. i looked it up and this is the "raw" code.
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I may come back to check the update, but not as the contributor any more. Thank you for supporting me in the past, it's time for me to move on. [[File:User Hinaomi Hinaomi-sig.png|link=User:Hinaomi]] [[User:Hinaomi|Rikka Takanashi]] <small>([[User talk:Hinaomi|talk]]) • ([[Special:Contributions/Hinaomi|contributions]])</small> 01:20, 26 August 2020 (UTC)
<nowiki>{{Set/table
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: Sorry to hear that you left on bad terms. Thank you for your effort over the years, it's much appreciated. You're welcome back anytime, friend. [[User:I-ghost|i-ghost]] ([[User talk:I-ghost|talk]]) 23:04, 26 September 2022 (UTC)
  | set  = The Special Delivery
 
  | item1 = Shortstop
 
  | item2 = Mutated Milk
 
  | item3 = Holy Mackerel
 
  | item4 = Milkman
 
  | effect = {{Common string|Calling card}}
 
  }} </nowiki>
 
  
which makes:<br>
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== DYK undo ==
{{Set/table
 
  | set  = The Special Delivery
 
  | item1 = Shortstop
 
  | item2 = Mutated Milk
 
  | item3 = Holy Mackerel
 
  | item4 = Milkman
 
  | effect = {{Common string|Calling card}}
 
  }}
 
<br> So i ask myself should it listed like this, with an info that originally the mad milk is intended for the set, or a general: reskins also work as set items? Just asking if there should be a discussion about because i did not knew that reskins count as item set weaps. [[User:Magicalpony|Magicalpony]] ([[User talk:Magicalpony|talk]]) 19:15, 19 July 2014 (PDT)
 
:About the table, yes, keep in that style. About the note that reskin counts or not, no need to note about Reskin is counted on set. Only the reskin that doesn't count as the set items that should note (Like [[Unarmed Combat]] or [[Wanga Prick]]) [[File:User Hinaomi Hinaomi-sig.png|link=User:Hinaomi]] [[User:Hinaomi|Rikka Takanashi]] <small>([[User talk:Hinaomi|talk]]) • ([[Special:Contributions/Hinaomi|contributions]])</small> 23:18, 19 July 2014 (PDT)
 
::So i should add this and not comment on the item set that it counts as set item? Okay. [[User:Magicalpony|Magicalpony]] ([[User talk:Magicalpony|talk]]) 05:01, 20 July 2014 (PDT)
 
  
== Listing bugs in the update history ==
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Hi there,
I don't think this makes sense at all. For example, let's take the bug where baseballs could destroy teleporter exits when someone was using the teleporter; this would look like:<br />
 
PatchXY: undocumented: projectiles can now destroy teleporter exits.<br />
 
[[July 30, 2014 Patch]]: Fixed projectiles causing teleporter exits to detonate.<br />
 
Or:<br />
 
PatchXY: undocumented: the Eureka Effect taunt animation can be canceled to teleport immediatly.<br />
 
[[July 24, 2014 Patch]]: Fixed a bug related to cancelling the Eureka Effect taunt and teleporting immediately. <br />
 
I understand this isn't exactly the same as changing a value from 3 to 5 and back to the 3, but the idea is the same, so it should not be mentioned as an undocumentated change. [[File:User_SackZement_signature.gif|link=User:SackZement]][[User:SackZement|<span style="font-size:14px;font-family: Tf2 Build"><font color="orange">SackZement]]</font></span> [[User_talk:SackZement|&lt;Talk&gt;]] 04:27, 31 July 2014 (PDT)
 
:Those one aren't the same. The reason is the G.R.U. change is "status changed" not "bug". [[File:User Hinaomi Hinaomi-sig.png|link=User:Hinaomi]] [[User:Hinaomi|Rikka Takanashi]] <small>([[User talk:Hinaomi|talk]]) • ([[Special:Contributions/Hinaomi|contributions]])</small> 04:52, 31 July 2014 (PDT)
 
  
== Released discussion ==
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The Trivia guidelines don't apply to the Did You Know section, it has [[Help:Did you know|its own set of guidelines]]. The glove fact is a valid DYK fact, but it has been featured before.<br>[[User:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">GrampaSwood</font>]] ([[User talk:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) 10:29, 5 July 2023 (UTC)
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:Sorry, my bad. [[File:User Hinaomi Hinaomi-sig.png|link=User:Hinaomi]] [[User:Hinaomi|Rikka Takanashi]] <small>([[User talk:Hinaomi|talk]]) • ([[Special:Contributions/Hinaomi|contributions]])</small> 10:16, 6 July 2023 (UTC)
  
It was already discussed if a date or the big update name should be in the item infobox. tl;dr both is nice. So SackZement made suggestions and the best was with the <nowiki><br /></nowiki> solution. Please read the discussion  here [[Team_Fortress_Wiki:Discussion#Released_inconsistency]] and undo your undo edit or make a better more efficient suggestion. Thank you [[User:Magicalpony|Magicalpony]] ([[User talk:Magicalpony|talk]]) 06:48, 7 August 2014 (PDT)
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== IRC message ==
:I didn't read that previously, so sorry then. [[File:User Hinaomi Hinaomi-sig.png|link=User:Hinaomi]] [[User:Hinaomi|Rikka Takanashi]] <small>([[User talk:Hinaomi|talk]]) • ([[Special:Contributions/Hinaomi|contributions]])</small> 17:01, 7 August 2014 (PDT)
 
  
== You're eyelander/headless horseman edit ==
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I did indeed link the wrong one, not sure how that happened. The proper discussion [[Team Fortress Wiki:Discussion#Stats in update history & patch notes consistencies|here]], outside of either of our messages, has 3 people agreeing that weapon stats would be too much, and the other people don't mention it or only mention stat patch notes in general and not specifically having the old stats.<br>[[File:BLU Wiki Cap.png|20px|link=Wiki Cap]] | [[Help:Group rights|<span style="color:green;font-family:TF2 Build;">s</span>]] | [[User:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">GrampaSwood</font>]] ([[User talk:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) 09:41, 15 September 2023 (UTC)
  
I was just curious on why they aren't identical, don't they share the same stats? [[User:Fuzzeh!|Fuzzeh!]] ([[User talk:Fuzzeh!|talk]]) 21:00, 10 August 2014 (PDT)
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: That discussion never really went anywhere and didn't have a proper conclusion as nothing was ever properly addressed. Discussions being abandoned is sadly pretty common, but nothing was really agreed upon in this case.
:And how is the eyelander identical to the bottle? [[User:Fuzzeh!|Fuzzeh!]] ([[User talk:Fuzzeh!|talk]]) 21:01, 10 August 2014 (PDT)
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: Like I said in the message: patch notes can be freely modified in articles. This has always been the case, and there's simply no reason to change it now.  You may dislike that some pages do have this info and others don't, but that's a preference, not a reason for change.
::This was talked before, I think I gonna dig the discussion for you then. [[File:User Hinaomi Hinaomi-sig.png|link=User:Hinaomi]] [[User:Hinaomi|Rikka Takanashi]] <small>([[User talk:Hinaomi|talk]]) • ([[Special:Contributions/Hinaomi|contributions]])</small> 21:02, 10 August 2014 (PDT)
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: You could also update the ones that lack these detailed stats or come up a better way to display old stats (which I believe is your goal [[Team_Fortress_Wiki:Discussion#History_of_an_item_template|here]]). <!-- Also, Hi Hinaomi! --> — [[User:Tark|<span style="font-weight:bold;color: #5BC236">Tark</span>]] 13:13, 15 September 2023 (UTC)
:::What? [[User:Fuzzeh!|Fuzzeh!]] ([[User talk:Fuzzeh!|talk]]) 21:08, 10 August 2014 (PDT)
 
::::Damnit, I can't find the old talk. Anyway, look at [[Vita-saw]], [[Solemn Vow]] and [[Third Degree]], they all aren't the same stats as stock but identically to stock at Damage and function times. (not the special attributes) [[File:User Hinaomi Hinaomi-sig.png|link=User:Hinaomi]] [[User:Hinaomi|Rikka Takanashi]] <small>([[User talk:Hinaomi|talk]]) • ([[Special:Contributions/Hinaomi|contributions]])</small> 21:20, 10 August 2014 (PDT)
 
  
== Hey, how are you doing? ==
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::Like I said on IRC:
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::* If you gonna keep it as 1:1, rename the section to '''Patch note''' (as that, you can just copy & paste everything from the official patch note).
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::* If you want to keep it as '''Update history''', keep it as it is for now or find a better way to display the different state of said weapons (as Tark mentioned).
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::As right now, I still don't have a better idea/method to display the old stats of the weapon with drastically changes like [[Soda Popper]] or [[Short Circuit]]. [[File:User Hinaomi Hinaomi-sig-2.png|link=User:Hinaomi]] [[User:Hinaomi|<span style="color:#9a86c5">'''Asuka Ninomiya'''</span>]] <small>([[User talk:Hinaomi|talk]]) • ([[Special:Contributions/Hinaomi|contributions]])</small> 22:45, 15 September 2023 (UTC)
  
Sure thing I remember you. I haven't seen you for a long time. [[User:Matihood1|Matihood1]] ([[User talk:Matihood1|talk]]) 17:20, 27 August 2014 (PDT)
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== Discussion ==
  
Edit: Oh, wait. Was I supposed to post this on my talk's page? My bad ;P [[User:Matihood1|Matihood1]] ([[User talk:Matihood1|talk]]) 17:22, 27 August 2014 (PDT)
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See [[Team Fortress Wiki:Discussion#Previous attributes in Update history|this discussion]].<br>[[File:BLU Wiki Cap.png|20px|link=Wiki Cap]] | [[Help:Group rights|<span style="color:green;font-family:TF2 Build;">s</span>]] | [[User:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">GrampaSwood</font>]] ([[User talk:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) 22:59, 21 September 2023 (UTC)
 
 
== Your userbox ==
 
 
 
{{User Festive Collector}}<br><br><br><nowiki>{{</nowiki>[[Template:User Festive Collector|User Festive Collector]]<nowiki>}}</nowiki><br><br>Have fun! [[File:Gabrielwoj Signature 1.png|link=User:Gabrielwoj]] [[File:Gabrielwoj Signature 2.png|link=Special:Contribs/Gabrielwoj]] - [[File:Gabrielwoj Signature 3.png|link=User talk:Gabrielwoj]] 07:35, 10 October 2014 (PDT)
 
:Thanks :3 [[File:User Hinaomi Hinaomi-sig.png|link=User:Hinaomi]] [[User:Hinaomi|Rikka Takanashi]] <small>([[User talk:Hinaomi|talk]]) • ([[Special:Contributions/Hinaomi|contributions]])</small> 14:12, 10 October 2014 (PDT)
 
:: Ez gud. [[File:Gabrielwoj Signature 1.png|link=User:Gabrielwoj]] ▪ [[File:Gabrielwoj Signature 2.png|link=Special:Contribs/Gabrielwoj]] - [[File:Gabrielwoj Signature 3.png|link=User talk:Gabrielwoj]] 19:17, 10 October 2014 (PDT)
 

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I decided to quit wiki, it's not about the conflict between me and that person, but it's mainly because of how people threated me here in the recent year. I lost motivation because of it. Always threated me like a bad person. I thought about quitting years ago. It's hard to maintain the mental level to above average. But with the recent behavior I received, I decided to do it. It's heart broken for me to leave the site that make me be me. But this place is no longer the place I used to know anymore.

I may come back to check the update, but not as the contributor any more. Thank you for supporting me in the past, it's time for me to move on. User Hinaomi Hinaomi-sig.png Rikka Takanashi (talk) • (contributions) 01:20, 26 August 2020 (UTC)

Sorry to hear that you left on bad terms. Thank you for your effort over the years, it's much appreciated. You're welcome back anytime, friend. i-ghost (talk) 23:04, 26 September 2022 (UTC)

DYK undo

Hi there,

The Trivia guidelines don't apply to the Did You Know section, it has its own set of guidelines. The glove fact is a valid DYK fact, but it has been featured before.
GrampaSwood (talk) 10:29, 5 July 2023 (UTC)

Sorry, my bad. User Hinaomi Hinaomi-sig.png Rikka Takanashi (talk) • (contributions) 10:16, 6 July 2023 (UTC)

IRC message

I did indeed link the wrong one, not sure how that happened. The proper discussion here, outside of either of our messages, has 3 people agreeing that weapon stats would be too much, and the other people don't mention it or only mention stat patch notes in general and not specifically having the old stats.
BLU Wiki Cap.png | s | GrampaSwood (talk) 09:41, 15 September 2023 (UTC)

That discussion never really went anywhere and didn't have a proper conclusion as nothing was ever properly addressed. Discussions being abandoned is sadly pretty common, but nothing was really agreed upon in this case.
Like I said in the message: patch notes can be freely modified in articles. This has always been the case, and there's simply no reason to change it now. You may dislike that some pages do have this info and others don't, but that's a preference, not a reason for change.
You could also update the ones that lack these detailed stats or come up a better way to display old stats (which I believe is your goal here). — Tark 13:13, 15 September 2023 (UTC)
Like I said on IRC:
  • If you gonna keep it as 1:1, rename the section to Patch note (as that, you can just copy & paste everything from the official patch note).
  • If you want to keep it as Update history, keep it as it is for now or find a better way to display the different state of said weapons (as Tark mentioned).
As right now, I still don't have a better idea/method to display the old stats of the weapon with drastically changes like Soda Popper or Short Circuit. User Hinaomi Hinaomi-sig-2.png Asuka Ninomiya (talk) • (contributions) 22:45, 15 September 2023 (UTC)

Discussion

See this discussion.
BLU Wiki Cap.png | s | GrampaSwood (talk) 22:59, 21 September 2023 (UTC)