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== Triboniophorus Tyrannus images ==
 
Didn't know where else to put this but I think the images for [[Triboniophorus Tyrannus]] are not correct. According to people [[Talk:Triboniophorus Tyrannus|here]] the colours show up differently in-game. I've removed the painted variants from the article for now. [[User:Seb26|<font color="#0B61A4">'''seb26'''</font>]] [[User talk:Seb26|<span style="font-size:95%;">[talk]</span>]] 00:49, 4 October 2010 (UTC)
 
Didn't know where else to put this but I think the images for [[Triboniophorus Tyrannus]] are not correct. According to people [[Talk:Triboniophorus Tyrannus|here]] the colours show up differently in-game. I've removed the painted variants from the article for now. [[User:Seb26|<font color="#0B61A4">'''seb26'''</font>]] [[User talk:Seb26|<span style="font-size:95%;">[talk]</span>]] 00:49, 4 October 2010 (UTC)
 
*I created some crude images that represent the painted, in-game [[Triboniophorus Tyrannus]] a little better, hope you don't mind me having a go. [[User:PaperStrike|PaperStrike]] 10:21, 4 October 2010 (UTC)
 
*I created some crude images that represent the painted, in-game [[Triboniophorus Tyrannus]] a little better, hope you don't mind me having a go. [[User:PaperStrike|PaperStrike]] 10:21, 4 October 2010 (UTC)
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If you choose to participate in the check, add your check results to the table at the bottom of [[Template:Painted items#To do]].-[[User:RJackson|<span class="burbg" style="margin-right:1px;text-shadow: #538237 1px 1px 0px;">RJ</span>]]{{Sta}} 03:37, 19 November 2010 (UTC)
 
If you choose to participate in the check, add your check results to the table at the bottom of [[Template:Painted items#To do]].-[[User:RJackson|<span class="burbg" style="margin-right:1px;text-shadow: #538237 1px 1px 0px;">RJ</span>]]{{Sta}} 03:37, 19 November 2010 (UTC)
  
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== Discussion regarding:  Supporting Team Spirit, stock images w/ previews and items worn by classes in previews. ==
 
== Discussion regarding:  Supporting Team Spirit, stock images w/ previews and items worn by classes in previews. ==
  
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:::As a further note, our sources (Zoolooman) lead us to believe that many of the painted items are getting a significant paint/materials overhaul and quite soon, I think it would worth waiting for those to come out before we start making any more images. The inconsistency created by point 1 would not be an issue if this was the case as they would need to be done from fresh anyway. -- [[User:Pilk|Pilk]] <sub>([[User talk:Pilk|talk]])</sub> 16:02, 21 November 2010 (UTC)
 
:::As a further note, our sources (Zoolooman) lead us to believe that many of the painted items are getting a significant paint/materials overhaul and quite soon, I think it would worth waiting for those to come out before we start making any more images. The inconsistency created by point 1 would not be an issue if this was the case as they would need to be done from fresh anyway. -- [[User:Pilk|Pilk]] <sub>([[User talk:Pilk|talk]])</sub> 16:02, 21 November 2010 (UTC)
 
::::That pretty puts all my concerns regarding effort and consistencies to bay.  As for not seeing people asking about classes wearing the previews, I had seen some posts on SPUF about it.  I don't think it will be worth digging up however as the discussion below is pretty much against it. -[[User:RJackson|<span class="burbg" style="margin-right:1px;text-shadow: #538237 1px 1px 0px;">RJ</span>]]{{Sta}} 18:01, 21 November 2010 (UTC)
 
::::That pretty puts all my concerns regarding effort and consistencies to bay.  As for not seeing people asking about classes wearing the previews, I had seen some posts on SPUF about it.  I don't think it will be worth digging up however as the discussion below is pretty much against it. -[[User:RJackson|<span class="burbg" style="margin-right:1px;text-shadow: #538237 1px 1px 0px;">RJ</span>]]{{Sta}} 18:01, 21 November 2010 (UTC)
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::::: I'd like to corroborate Zoolooman, I've heard word about a large hat-patch coming soon as well. -- [[User:Nineaxis|<span style="color:#507D2A;font-weight:bold;font-family:
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'Trebuchet MS'">Nineaxis</span>]] {{mod}} [[File:User Nineaxis sig duck.png|12px]] 05:19, 22 November 2010 (UTC)
 
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::I don't like this idea either. It seems like the images would be too visually busy [[User:Balladofwindfishes|Balladofwindfishes]] 13:08, 20 November 2010 (UTC)
 
::I don't like this idea either. It seems like the images would be too visually busy [[User:Balladofwindfishes|Balladofwindfishes]] 13:08, 20 November 2010 (UTC)
 
:You have both raised excellent points, and I can't say I disagree with you. -[[User:RJackson|<span class="burbg" style="margin-right:1px;text-shadow: #538237 1px 1px 0px;">RJ</span>]]{{Sta}} 18:01, 21 November 2010 (UTC)
 
:You have both raised excellent points, and I can't say I disagree with you. -[[User:RJackson|<span class="burbg" style="margin-right:1px;text-shadow: #538237 1px 1px 0px;">RJ</span>]]{{Sta}} 18:01, 21 November 2010 (UTC)
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: {{c|Oppose}} for the reasons already stated, makes images too busy and hard to scale down. -- [[User:Nineaxis|<span style="color:#507D2A;font-weight:bold;font-family:
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'Trebuchet MS'">Nineaxis</span>]] {{mod}} [[File:User Nineaxis sig duck.png|12px]] 05:19, 22 November 2010 (UTC)
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== Collapsible tables ==
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I think that instead of having a "skip-to" box, it would be a lot better to have each class as a collapsible table, collapsed by default. This would be nice, particularly for users on slow connections. If possible, one button could expand all the tables. This would require restructuring this template with 11 tables instead of one (unless there is a way to collapse groups of rows?), but if people want I'd be happy to try it out. [[User:Strange Quirk|Strange Quirk]] 17:15, 29 November 2010 (UTC)
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: {{c|Support}} that sounds like a pretty neat idea and i do feel it'd help people on slower connections and such, i think it's just a matter of what the majority think about using a new template [[User:HyenaDip|HyenaDip]] 16:18, 1 December 2010 (UTC)hyenadip
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== My new paint update ==
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Here's the full changelog:
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*Improved painting on the following all-class hats: Ghastly Gibus, Ghastlier Gibus, Spine-Chilling Skull, Voodoo Juju, Wiki Cap, Bill’s Hat, Mann-Co Cap.
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*Improved painting on the following Scout-specific hats: Batter’s Helmet, Troublemaker’s Tossle Cap, Bonk Helmet, Ye Olde Baker Boy, Whoopee Cap, Bombing Run.
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*Improved painting on the following Soldier-specific hats: Soldier’s Stash, Tyrant’s Helm, Killer’s Kabuto, Stout Shako.
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*Improved painting on the following Pyro-specific hats: Brigade Helm, Respectless Rubber Glove, Vintage Merryweather, Handyman’s Handle, Napper’s Respite.
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*Improved painting on the following Demoman-specific hats: Demoman’s Fro, Glengarry Bonnet, Scotsman’s Stove Pipe, Hustler’s Hallmark, Tippler’s Tricorne, Carouser’s Capotain, Rimmed Raincatcher.
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*Improved painting on the following Heavy-specific hats: Football Helmet, Officer’s Ushanka, Tough Guy’s Toque, Hound Dog, Heavy Duty Rag, Dealer’s Visor.
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*Improved painting on the following Engineer-specific hats: Texas Ten Gallon.
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*Improved painting on the following Medic-specific hats: Prussian Pickelhaube, Vintage Tyrolean, Gentleman’s Gatsby.
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*Improved painting on the following Sniper-specific hats: Master’s Yellow Belt.
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*Improved painting on the following Spy-specific hats: Fancy Fedora, Backbiter’s Billycock, Magistrate’s Mullet.
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*Restored the Frenchman’s Beret’s color scheme and phong mask.
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*Improved the Carouser’s Capotain’s original model.
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*Improved the Handyman’s Handle’s original model and texture.
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*Fixed issues with the Scotsman’s Skullcutter’s and the Vita-saw’s smoothing.
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*Made the following items paintable: Sergeant’s Drill Hat, Pyro’s Beanie, “Dangeresque, Too?” Whiskered Gentleman, Safe’n’Sound, Trophy Belt, Frenchman’s Beret, Camera Beard, Max’s Severed Head, Alien Swarm *Parasite, Ellis’ Cap, Horrific Headsplitter.
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*Fixed Natasha and Texas Ten Gallon  not using a phong mask (a.k.a looking like plastic)
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[[User:Daimao|Daimao]] 14:28, 3 December 2010 (UTC)
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== Alphabetise? ==
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We had it alphabetised before and they are on [[Paint Can]] too. I'd do it, but I'm on my phone... &ndash; [[User:Smashman|<font color=#507D2A>Smashman</font>]]<sub>&nbsp;([[User_talk:Smashman|talk]])</sub> 09:14, 11 December 2010 (UTC)
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:{{C|Done}} -- [[User:Pilk|Pilk]] <sub>([[User talk:Pilk|talk]])</sub> 09:21, 11 December 2010 (UTC)
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== Does this look better ==
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http://wiki.teamfortress.com/wiki/User:Violencejr123/Template:Painted_items I've organize it so people won't be confused on if the Fancy fedora is for engineer. [[File:Painted Batter's Helmet C36C2D.png|16px|]][[User:Violencejr123|<span style="font-size:13px;line-height:16px;font-family:TF2 Build;sans-serif;" class="qua_strange">Violencejr123</span>]] 22:13, 2 August 2011 (PDT)
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== Retaking of images since new paints ==
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Can we slow down a take a little more care when making these? Some images look kinda rushed, and have missed a few things like adjusting the lighting:
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[[File:Painted Defiant Spartan 5885A2.png|100px]]
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Now that many parts of the process are being automated I think we can spare a little time on making the images prettier & whatnot
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[[user:seb26|<small style="background:#f9f9f9;border:1px solid #0070FF;padding:0em 0.5em;color:#000;-webkit-box-shadow:2px 1px 1px #8BBEFF;">'''seb26'''</small>]] 02:06, 5 August 2011 (PDT)
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:I agree. RJ, quit failing. &ndash; [[User:Smashman|<font color=#507D2A>Smashman</font>]]<sub>&nbsp;([[User_talk:Smashman|talk]])</sub> 02:19, 5 August 2011 (PDT)
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:: In my defense, the process we have documented on the Tutorial doesn't mention adjusting the lighting so it hasn't been "missed".  But I guess now that we can throw them out faster there's no harm... just consider that our "official" process for doing these images is as noted on the Tutorial page, if something isn't there then please don't blame editors (me) for not doing that something. -[[User:RJackson|<span class="modbg" style="margin-right:1px;text-shadow: #538237 1px 1px 0px;">RJ</span>]] 02:31, 5 August 2011 (PDT)
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::: Yes it's faster but it's wasted effort if someone has to redo them... anyway, the lighting changes take like 2 seconds so do dem :P [[user:seb26|<small style="background:#f9f9f9;border:1px solid #0070FF;padding:0em 0.5em;color:#000;-webkit-box-shadow:2px 1px 1px #8BBEFF;">'''seb26'''</small>]] 02:52, 5 August 2011 (PDT)
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== Adding values to others' rotations ==
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While double checking the to-do list on [[Template:Painted_items]], it lists the [[Superfan]] as needing that values used for generating the paint images. I found that the ROT is correct but there are missing LightROT and Trans values. If I had a value that approximates the painted images, what's the stance on adding those to an entry on [[Template:Painted_variants/Tutorial/Rotations]] that only have rotation values? Otherwise, I'd imagine the whole set of paints would have to be redone. --[[User:Xenaero|Xenaero]] 09:28, 29 August 2011 (PDT)
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