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-- WelcomeBOT (talk) 10:59, 2 March 2016 (PST)

Hey :)

I saw that you didn't know how to change the text for a Halloween Achievement.

While I sorted that out, I thought I'd show you how to change things like that in the future.

You need to go edit the template, which you can find here: Template:Dictionary.

Whether it's achievements, a table, infobox, weapon stats, crafting blueprint or an item name, you can find the translations here and add the "es" if any are missing, as I just did recently with your Halloween Achievements Desc.

Hope this will help you in the future, happy translating!

Faghetti V.2 (talk) 15:49, 4 March 2016 (PST)

Just a head up!

Remember to utilise the "preview"-button and read through everything before saving a page, so you don't have to make 4-5 consecutive edits on the same one.
Happy translating.
Faghetti V.2 (talk) 15:25, 6 March 2016 (PST)

Question regarding you translations

Heyo, Curious here. I've noticed you have been doing some translations however one this that bugs me is, that you are doing translations for multiple languages... May I ask on how you are translating them to begin with....? Ashes (talk) 18:57, 6 March 2016 (PST)

After checking your translation, You are using Google Translate. I'd like to point out that the TF2 Wiki has 0 tolerance for Google Translations. I will be marking all your translation for deletion. If you continue to use Google translate for translations, you will be blocked from the Wiki. Ashes (talk) 21:54, 6 March 2016 (PST)

Please switch your language settings on Steam; the achievement and item translations are exactly as they appear there. FlimsyBobby (talk) 22:11, 6 March 2016 (PST)

I'm speaking mainly of the other translations. Considering the fact that they match word by word, is the main issue. I have no issues with your Spanish translation. If you are translating, please stick to your native language as we want to avoid complications with the other language translators.

Ashes (talk) 22:14, 6 March 2016 (PST)

I'm wondering what edits made you think I was using Google Translate, because I don't see any errors or typos on those pages. It just seems to be "jumping the gun" to be getting rid of all of those edits, especially when most of them are taken directly from Steam's translations. FlimsyBobby (talk) 22:41, 6 March 2016 (PST)

Specifically the categories ones. I actually took the time to check them as i noticed you mainly stuck on Spanish pages for the time being then started jumping to other languages... Usually when we catch several edits under google translations, we make the assumption all are, however i did check all your spanish ones and those seem fine. I wouldn't really say its "jumping the gun" when I actually took the time to run through each one manually. Again, if you're going to translate, please keep to your native language as even the Steam translations can be changed, hence why we'd rather have native translators review/modify their respective pages. Once you start making some translation errors, then you're at fault. As mentioned before, its to prevent complications. Ashes (talk) 22:44, 6 March 2016 (PST)

I must ask you not to simply copy and paste the sections from the NPC articles to create the Miss Pauling articles. Even if they do not exist in other languages, they must be translated from scratch, using the English article as a base. Creating those articles makes things harder for actual translators, since the article is flagged as created and they don't know that it still requires translating. -- LordKelvin 19:07, 7 March 2016 (PST)

Regarding disambiguation pages

Hi there, I just saw your recent translation and I think I've witnessed a mistake you made.

The disambiguation page Essentials exists because there are two items in the game that share the word "essentials" so it makes sense to create a disamb page for that. In your case however, the items don't share any word and can't be confused, rendering the disambiguation page entirely useless since nobody would profit from grouping entirely different items. In the future, please translate disambiguation pages only if

1. It's not about the item names, but a characteristic, e.g. a page for "Shirts" would make sense for every language.
2. The items actually do share some words in your language.

Since I'm not a Spanish speaker, I could be wrong regarding the Essentials/es page, but my advice stands nonetheless. Thank you. { TidB | t | c | wt } 16:20, 28 March 2016 (PDT)

• • The URLs of the items have the same word, which may confuse a non-English speaker. It is the same reason there are French, Russian, and Brazilian Portuguese versions of the page, even though their names for the items are also different. FlimsyBobby (talk) 16:28, 28 March 2016 (PDT)

I don't quite get your point with the URLs having the same names in them. Could you please elaborate on why this should be confusing? I doubt the average reader browses the wiki by manipulating the URL (I doubt they care about it at all). Regarding the other localized disambs you mentioned:

1. Essentials/fr is correct, since both indispensables and essentiels mean the same thing.
2. Essentials/ru was incorrect. Both share the word accessories in Russian, which is also reflected by the custom title Accessories. Since it doesn't correspond with the English page (it has the same items, but for a different reason), I've moved it to Accessories/ru.
3. Essentials/pt-br is incorrect. I've marked it for deletion since it doesn't make sense for the same reasons I've mentioned here.

I'm not going to remove Essentials/es now (though it's possible it'll get deleted in the future), but please keep that in mind. I know that there are localized disambiguation pages that shouldn't exist and it might seem unfair to you that I picked just your contribution, but this is not meant as a personal attack and your contribution just came by at a time where I was actually curious if that page is correct.

{ TidB | t | c | wt } 16:54, 28 March 2016 (PDT)

redirects

Hello. Why you're creating redirects to untranslated /ar pages? — The preceding assigned comment was added by Tark {Finish Him! ▪ Contribs} 09:22, 29 March 2016 (PDT)

• Apologies. I did not realize the pages did not exist until after I created the redirect. Should they be deleted? FlimsyBobby (talk) 09:35, 29 March 2016 (PDT)

They don't need deleting, just try to avoid doing it. There are lists of translated pages for languages, and I know some translators translate the redirects along with the page. It's more a case of efficient use of your time - there's no need to translate a redirect that's not being used. Darkid (Talk | Contribs) 10:04, 29 March 2016 (PDT)

Translations to {{Map infobox}}

Hey, where'd you get those strings from? Darkid (Talk | Contribs) 11:46, 3 April 2016 (PDT)

• The map pages themselves. A lot of the caption boxes just say their language's equivalent of "Overview of the map" instead of "Overview of 2Fort" or what have you. FlimsyBobby (talk) 12:16, 3 April 2016 (PDT)

I agree, but the main concern is exact translations. In english, saying 'Overview of Map' versus 'Map Overview' reads much worse. I'd much rather if native speakers chose phrases which fit well. Darkid (Talk | Contribs) 12:19, 3 April 2016 (PDT)

That's true, even if there are a few languages where that phrasing wouldn't work (Spanish, Italian, etc.). FlimsyBobby (talk) 12:25, 3 April 2016 (PDT)

Redirects

Hi, please avoid abusing redirects. It leaves more for people to clean up when pages change and is very spammy for people watching edits. -- Lagg 10:29, 30 August 2016 (PDT)

Weapon templates

Just an F.Y.I, the weapon templates don't have to be exactly like the in game item. The in game item gives basic information, but if grammatically it is better to lengthen a pro/con or make part of "info", do so. For example, I changed the "info" section of the flame throwers to not have the +20 hp for extinguishing teammates, and moved said section as a "pro" to highlight this fact (see change section of the pyro primary template). But, in the case of you changing the hou long, it was fine as it was. I am going to leave it, but I did change the "25 damage vs ..." ti "+25 damage..." because it makes more sense.

In summation, keep in mind if your change will:

• make something more grammatically correct
• "enhance" the wiki
• correct a mistake
• add additional information (that is needed)

If it doesn't do one of these, maybe consider not changing it or ask a moderator (Wiki Staff).

P.S. I am not a Moderator nor wiki staff, just looking out for you.

|| twolfe's page || twolfe's talk page 07:24, 17 November 2016 (PST)

Just a heads up, I changed my mind and reverted your change (see above). Keep up the good work, just keep in mind what I said.

|| twolfe's page || twolfe's talk page 07:33, 17 November 2016 (PST)

Translations

I'm curious about where you've been taking your edits in translated pages from. I see you've been questioned about this before and you replied that you were taking the translations from the game (the STS translations), but this edit and also this one for example do not match that, as, in both cases, it is in fact written "pra" and not "para" in the STS and in the game.

Furthermore, I've noticed your edits tend to be minor grammar fixes in words. While some of them are right, some of them are not. This applies to both edits I've mentioned before; "para" is indeed the correct form which would normally be used, but the descriptions are purposefully written incorrectly to reference the stereotypical manner of speaking associated with the rural population, and that's how they appear in the game.

This edit is also wrong. "Referência" is a noun, but "referencia" is the third person of the verb "referenciar" in the indicative present, which is being used on this sentence. While someone might misspell "referência" as "referencia", this is not the case here as it is not meant to be the noun. I don't know if you speak portuguese or if you don't, and I don't want to jump to conclusions, but this is a pretty strange mistake (using the noun there makes no sense). Considering you edit in a lot of languages, this has made me quite worried because I don't know how you're editing. Where are you taking these translations and grammar fixes from? Edmond Dantès (talk) 17:23, 6 December 2016 (PST)

The edits you're referring to were taken from here. FlimsyBobby (talk) 20:06, 7 December 2016 (PST)

Oh, now that's interesting. I guess something should be done about these listed "typos"; I didn't realize you were using this page (I actually did not remember that it existed...). I'm really sorry for bothering you. Edmond Dantès (talk) 20:45, 7 December 2016 (PST)

Please note that the typos page is compiled by a bot using a static list (which I don't even know the origin of), so it's in some (or all) cases not correct and should always be reviewed by a native speaker and applied appropriately. { TidB | t | c | wt } 10:54, 8 December 2016 (PST)

Changing strings

Hi there, I'd advise you to not change other language strings if you don't have any knowledge about that language. You're of course welcome to add new strings or update the outdated ones.  Wookipan (talk | contribs) 13:55, 28 May 2017 (PDT)