Talk:Top Notch/Archive 1

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"Don't craft it, Miney"

I know it's fairly obvious from the design, but I guess the reference to Minecraft can't be added until there's confirmation of it. » Cooper Kid (blether) • (contreebs) 16:45, 23 November 2011 (PST)

You have read the latest revision, right? Jestre 17:05, 23 November 2011 (PST)

I have now =)
» Cooper Kid (blether) • (contreebs) 18:16, 23 November 2011 (PST)

Availability

Judging from the description, I think it's safe to assume that this is a one of a kind item, so what should we label the availability as? -an incoherent rambling by iamtehlolrus 17:45, 23 November 2011 (PST)

Leave it as Unknown until we can confirm. Change it to "Distributed (Limited)" if it really is One-of-a-Kind, like J.Axer's Dapper Topper. Sven 17:50, 23 November 2011 (PST)

Item image class

Given that Notch's favourite class is Soldier, if this hat happens to be for him only, a soldier would be more suited than a heavy on the image. — The preceding unsigned comment was added by Deity Link (talk) • (contribs) 08:19, 24 November 2011

As long as the pic shows a class wearing the item, it's fine.  –  Epic Eric (T | C) 09:08, 24 November 2011 (PST)

Notch

Isn't this an exclusive item just for Notch? Damian0358 04:12, 24 November 2011 (PST)

For now everything's just rumours. It may mean that Minecraft is coming to Steam as it just hit 1.0.0, and perhaps pre-existing players may get a chance to redeem their Minecraft accounts using a serial on Steam. Although, Mojang did state that they wouldn't do that because they would be "restricted to what they could do". However, that company doesn't know what it is doing half the time, so don't be surprised if it actually happens. Also, I'd be very surprised if only Notch/Mojang got to wear that.--Fiskie 07:09, 24 November 2011 (PST)

More minecraft items

If minecraft is going to be on steam, we might as well add more minecraft-related items, like a Steve head, or a diamond pickaxe/sword. I would love beating the hell out of Heavy Weapons Creeper with a rocket launcher. Thedball 08:10, 24 November 2011 (PST)

We just edit the Wiki mate, try the forums for item makers. » Cooper Kid (blether) • (contreebs) 08:51, 24 November 2011 (PST)

Tweet

About that tweet. It says "afaik" (as far as I know). so basically it still hasn't been confirmed by valve. just saying. Mpnov 17:20, 24 November 2011 (PST)

No other owners of this hat have been revealed as of yet. Until then, we'll assume only Notch owns it.  –  Epic Eric (T | C) 17:21, 24 November 2011 (PST)

Alrighty. I just figured you guys were deleting anything saying Notch is the only one with it because it wasn't confirmed officially (Even though its pretty much given). Mpnov 17:23, 24 November 2011 (PST)

http://www.tf2items.com/id/MarkusPersson If this is any proof, he doesn't have it. --Arizone 01:27, 26 November 2011 (PST)

Well he commented on his twitter that he's been wearing it, so I guess it isn't any proof. Mar 03:15, 26 November 2011 (PST)

Notch's Steam ID is xnotch, so the above backpack is merely a fan of Notch. Kardia Munr 15:03, 26 November 2011 (PST)

His twitter shows him wearing it. You can try to find more proof if that's not enough, but his backpack is private. 15:08, 26 November 2011 (PST)

Missed image

There is a missing image of the Soldier wearing this hat in the gallery, among other classes. Should it be fixed? Plummaster 11:28, 25 November 2011 (PST)

Top Knotch

If you think about it, it seems sort of a pointless accessory to have for a class if you cant see the players face when doing special taunts

— The preceding unsigned comment was added by Jaratemaster656 (talk) • (contribs)

This might be a better discussion if sent over to the TF2 Forums. This page is more about the article rather than talks about the item itself. - nixshadow (t|c) 14:26, 1 December 2011 (PST)

Does this sentence is worth for the trivia?

• Despite the description is saying to not craft it, the cosmetic cannot be used in crafting.

In a similar way of Robro that the trivia is linking the description with the game model, I've thought of this sentence in Top Notch. In the end of the description, it says: "This is the only item of its kind in all of existence. So don't craft it, Miney.". Since it's mentioning this is the only item of its kind in all of existence, even though, the item is not usable in crafting (( Not Tradable or Usable in Crafting )). I think that it's talking about TF2 Crafting system together with the game Minecraft. Gabrielwoj (talk) 07:17, 9 April 2014 (PDT)

As stated multiple times already, that sentence in the description is a (fairly obvious) reference to Minecraft. It's a coincidence, and definitely not a notable one. (contribs ▪ talk) 07:19, 9 April 2014 (PDT)

For the minecraft reference: Its very obvious, just look at the hat and how it looks. As for crafting; I say its purely coincidental but even then it is fairly obvious regardless of how you look at it. don't craft it is already saying the obvious even if it is a reference to the crafting system. - Lexar - talk 07:25, 9 April 2014 (PDT)

this is disscussed on the top of the page. Star=3Horder 07:32, 9 April 2014 (PDT)

But the what I wanted to note on the trivia was that the description is talking to not to craft even though you cannot use in crafting, that's what I meant. I just noted just like the Robro page, it's talking that Robro is a robot with on and off, even though in the model has a on and off button. So I did the same in this page. Gabrielwoj (talk) 07:35, 9 April 2014 (PDT)

1. It is a joke 2. obvious trivia is bad trivia. We disscussed this in IRC. Let it go. Star=3Horder 07:38, 9 April 2014 (PDT)

The description is being contradictional, it's telling to not to craft even though it's not craftable. This is what the trivia was supposed to mean. Gabrielwoj (talk) 07:42, 9 April 2014 (PDT)

It may be a contradiction, but its not worth noting. Also to note, the contradiction on the Robro trivia is actually trivia worthy as there is hard proof of it. (And its a joke on the false claim). The contradiction in the top notch is extremely obvious and pointless and uses extreme common sense. Why craft the only item of said kind in existence? So in short, Trivia is not worth noting. Simple as that. Ashes (talk) 07:50, 9 April 2014 (PDT)

How would you get this

So i checked it and i'm thinking to myself how do you get this. can someone tell me from what promotion it was from. — The preceding unsigned comment was added by Snake345 (talk) • (contribs)

Please sign your posts when posting on talk pages. And there is NO WAY to get this item. It was only given to the creator of minecraft. Thats it. No one else can get it. Ashes (talk) 13:32, 28 November 2014 (PST)

is it possible to get a glitched copy?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UYD3mXSxSaU if you go to this link and go to 8:02 there is someone wearing this and started discussing it within the youtubers discord. one of the arguments is it could just be a glitched copy. do you think it is considered possible? F1r3car (talk) 23:42, 12 March 2022 (UTC)

No, it's not. Randomiser servers very commonly run a randomised cosmetic items plugin and this is part of that.
GrampaSwood (talk) 23:53, 12 March 2022 (UTC)

well yes but if you watch the entire video and look at the bottom left his cosmetics never change F1r3car (talk) 23:55, 12 March 2022 (UTC)

I've had the same experience, pretty sure they don't show up on your own 3D view and client, but this is not a glitched copy of it.
GrampaSwood (talk) 00:00, 13 March 2022 (UTC)

ok thank you for clarifying!

F1r3car (talk) 00:03, 13 March 2022 (UTC)

It can be also just a plugin that allows the player to wear any cosmetic in game (same as allowing players to use any taunt, particle effect etc.). Denied (Talk) 12:16, 13 March 2022 (UTC)

What Denied said. You can see at the top-left corner Skial's website (around 8:03, but you have to pause it really quickly when Heavy stops looking at the Soldier). Skial servers has a plugin that allows to wear any cosmetic in-game, including the Top Notch and other one-of-a-kind cosmetics, as well Unusual effects for cosmetics that does not have Unusual qualities. - ▪ - 12:51, 13 March 2022 (UTC)

20% damage vulnerability debuff?

I don't really know much about where or how we should put this, but would the 20% damage vulnerability debuff count as a hidden stat?

Update editor (talk) 13:35, 23 September 2022 (UTC)

That was a joke by Robin Walker; it's not a real attribute. - BrazilianNut (talk) 13:43, 23 September 2022 (UTC)

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