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== {{Demo Header|Chemistry Set}} ==
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Hi, just made a vid demonstration about Chemistry kit. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R2uEkaw6Jbs&feature=youtu.be
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What should i do next? ~ Fokus 03.06.2020 16:50 GMT+2
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:Hi there,
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: You now have to wait for [[User:WindPower|WindPower]] to respond. He usually does this every week on Sundays, though he's very busy nowadays.
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: My advice on your video is: Don't start in the Main Menu, start in the backpack (first page) instead. Make sure your backpack's page is also clear of other stuff, so when you finished using the chemistry set it doesnt go to the third page and you'll have to drag it from there. Show yourself using the Chemistry Set, too, it's part of its functionality. Your video also seems to have a delay between sound and the video.
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: It also lacks editing.<br>[[User:GrampaSwood|GrampaSwood]] ([[User talk:GrampaSwood|talk]]) 15:05, 3 June 2020 (UTC)
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:::> he's very busy nowadays
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:::You give me too much credit. — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 05:44, 8 July 2020 (UTC)
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::Hi, thanks for tips. I fixed the video, now it should be much better. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-fgON6QQ6Mk&feature=youtu.be <br />
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::[[User:Fokuskii|Fokuskii]] ([[User talk:Fokuskii|talk]]) 23:53, 3 June 2020 (UTC)
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:::The same problem applies with the backpack. It should start on the first page (that's empty except for the required items). The section where you hover over the chemistry set is too long, perhaps make it 1 or 2 seconds. The same thing applies to the end, show the strangifier being applied. It also lacks fading (A lot of these things can be fixed with simple editing, but I think the pages thing will have to be done with a new one :\)<br>[[User:GrampaSwood|GrampaSwood]] ([[User talk:GrampaSwood|talk]]) 13:10, 4 June 2020 (UTC)
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:::The video should also be 1080p (your first version was 1080p but the second version is 720p). Agreed with all other comments — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 05:44, 8 July 2020 (UTC)
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I have both an alt and a professor speks chemistry set for this demonstration, I just have yet to find the password to the account...<br>[[File:BLU Wiki Cap.png|20px|link=List of Wiki Cap owners]] | [[Help:Group rights|<span style="color:green;font-family:TF2 Build;">s</span>]] | [[User:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">GrampaSwood</font>]] [[File:PraisetheSun.png|20px|alt=Praise the Sun!]] ([[User talk:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) ([[Special:Contributions/GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">contribs</font>]]) 21:36, 12 November 2023 (UTC)
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Hey, was wondering if this was still open? I can do a possible version with a collector chemistry kit but not sure if it matters if it's strangifier or collector's. [[User:God&#39;sWrath|God&#39;sWrath]] ([[User talk:God&#39;sWrath|talk]]) 01:15, 16 February 2024 (UTC)
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:It's still open, although a collector's kit may be too large as it would require showing all 100 items added.<br>[[File:BLU Wiki Cap.png|20px|link=List of Wiki Cap owners]] {{!}} [[Help:Group rights|<span style="color:green;font-family:TF2 Build;">s</span>]] {{!}} [[User:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">GrampaSwood</font>]] [[File:PraisetheSun.png|20px|alt=Praise the Sun!]] ([[User talk:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) ([[Special:Contributions/GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">contribs</font>]]) 11:13, 16 February 2024 (UTC)
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::Ah, alright so what if I show a strangifier first and add a section for the collector's where I only put 1 in but I put disclaimer stating it's x amount of x items and not 1 item for a collector's kit? So video doesn't drag out. [[User:God&#39;sWrath|God&#39;sWrath]] ([[User talk:God&#39;sWrath|talk]]) 03:41, 17 February 2024 (UTC)
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:::Just pick a simpler, cheaper chemistry set like in the first video · [[User:Ashe|<font color="DB9C1F">Ashe</font>]] ([[User talk:Ashe|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) 05:15, 17 February 2024 (UTC)
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== {{Demo Header|Upgrade to Premium Gift}} ==
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:I'm not quite sure if this one is necessary [[File:Charger 2.png|20px|]] [[User:Karmacharger|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Karmacharger</span>]] 9:12 PM 8/24/2014 (PDT)
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::Nah, probably not unless someone just happens to run upon that item — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 19:59, 27 October 2014 (PDT)
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Question: Do I need to show I, person giving the premium gift, receive the professor speks?<br>[[User:GrampaSwood|GrampaSwood]] ([[User talk:GrampaSwood|talk]]) 11:04, 6 September 2019 (UTC)
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:Yes, that's part of the item's effects. — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 23:39, 8 September 2019 (UTC)
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I have brought the premium gift to another account, the only issue is that the professor speks is already on my TF2 account, so I would need a third account to receive the speks (while already having premium). It may take a while longer but if anyone else wants to give a crack at it.<br>[[File:BLU Wiki Cap.png|20px|link=List of Wiki Cap owners]] | [[Help:Group rights|<span style="color:green;font-family:TF2 Build;">s</span>]] | [[User:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">GrampaSwood</font>]] [[File:PraisetheSun.png|20px|alt=Praise the Sun!]] ([[User talk:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) ([[Special:Contributions/GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">contribs</font>]]) 21:36, 12 November 2023 (UTC)
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== {{Demo Header|Something Special For Someone Special}} (Tool)==
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{{reservation|[[User:Mediarch|<font color="ec5c69">'''Mediarch'''</font>]] [[File:User Mediarch PFP.png|25px]][[User:Mediarch|<font color="#ff66cc"> ♥ </font>]][[User talk:Mediarch|<font color="ec5c69">'''Talk'''</font>]][[User:Mediarch|<font color="#ff66cc"> ♥ </font>]][[Special:Contributions/Mediarch|<font color="ec5c69">'''My Edits'''</font>]] 00:29, 2 May 2024 (UTC)}}
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Old discussion (2019)
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Hi. I know this item is quite expensive for someone to make a demonstration, but I was thinking, a video showcasing how the item works (which the purchaser's choose they person), and then, on the same video, showing the chosen player's screen perspective, showing the option to accept the proposal, and after that, showing the notification on the Main Menu for the accepted proposal.
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<br>Considering the high cost that would be making this demonstration, I wonder if Valve could gives us a hand and supply one for our demonstrations purposes, as long we delete both rings after doing the full video.
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<br>It seems that the process is mostly the same as the [[Gift Wrap]], but I have no idea how are the things when someone receives that Gift. We also lack a proper Gift Wrap video, apparently. [[File:Gabrielwoj Signature Icon.png|15px|link=User:Gabrielwoj]] - [[File:Gabrielwoj Signature 1.png|link=User:Gabrielwoj]] ▪ [[File:Gabrielwoj Signature 2.png|link=Special:Contribs/Gabrielwoj]] - [[File:Gabrielwoj Signature 3.png|link=User talk:Gabrielwoj]] 19:26, 16 July 2019 (UTC)
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: Keep dreaming, valve won't even fix server issues much less give us free items. If you are planning to make a demonstration though, better ask windpower for some super detailed instructions to make sure it's right the first time. [[User:Naleksuh|Naleksuh]] ([[User talk:Naleksuh|talk]]) 21:37, 18 July 2019 (UTC)
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::Well, they have the ability to both give and delete items, it could work? Yes. Will it happen? We don't know. If there's anything we can do, is ask for someone who plans on buying one legitimately and asking them for help. Last time that the item got in 50% off, a lot of people bought one, so. [[File:Gabrielwoj Signature Icon.png|15px|link=User:Gabrielwoj]] - [[File:Gabrielwoj Signature 1.png|link=User:Gabrielwoj]] ▪ [[File:Gabrielwoj Signature 2.png|link=Special:Contribs/Gabrielwoj]] - [[File:Gabrielwoj Signature 3.png|link=User talk:Gabrielwoj]] 20:01, 19 July 2019 (UTC)
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:::If you give it some time, I could save up to get it and try to make it. <br>[[User:GrampaSwood|GrampaSwood]] ([[User talk:GrampaSwood|talk]]) 20:16, 19 July 2019 (UTC)
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:I offer to give a 50 USD Steam gift card to anyone who has already gotten an item demonstration video approved and uploaded in order to make this demonstration, and then another 50 USD Steam gift card upon video approval. I'm not sure what the price of the item is in other currencies but I'll also match that if possible as long as it's not too much more expensive. Please make sure to record both sides (sender account and receiver account). — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 23:00, 21 July 2019 (UTC)
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::Well, I guess we should start discussing how should it be done. Firstly, I think the Gifter should be named "Scout" and the Recipient be "Miss Pauling". Scout has the [https://steamcdn-a.akamaihd.net/steamcommunity/public/images/avatars/c7/c718b0c234a3f5ff5fc8f0b99c3f64f0de4ccefe_full.jpg Scout avatar] (184x184 version from Steam), while Miss Pauling can use [https://i.imgur.com/bBLbzuP.png this]. I think the name could be something along what Scout would say, my suggestion, name it as "You are really frickin' sweet". That'd go nice, eh?
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::Secondly, I don't know who's going to be the Recipient. Should we create a Steam account just for that, or should we rely with another Video Demonstration Creator to do a collab? [[File:Gabrielwoj Signature Icon.png|15px|link=User:Gabrielwoj]] - [[File:Gabrielwoj Signature 1.png|link=User:Gabrielwoj]] ▪ [[File:Gabrielwoj Signature 2.png|link=Special:Contribs/Gabrielwoj]] - [[File:Gabrielwoj Signature 3.png|link=User talk:Gabrielwoj]] 23:55, 21 July 2019 (UTC)
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::<br> well how about we can hit two birds with one store and do the ring and the Upgrade to Premium Gift from the same two account?, First the two account would demostrate the Upgrade to Premium Gift which the sender should buy it from the store and send to the receiver who don't have premium. them Recycle the same account to do the ring. We could make a story out of it as well from friendship when a user gifted the premium to the other use then after few days they both got engaged via the sender would give the ring. It won't end up a awkward situation. but for this situation we need 4 people to do the ring tho 2 sender reciever, 2 regular tf2 player to recieved the message one in the tf2 main menu and the other while in-game[[User:Jomarcenter|Jomarcenter]] ([[User talk:Jomarcenter|talk]]) 14:27, 28 August 2019 (UTC)
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::::That's a cute story, but let's keep the demonstration to just one item (the ring), not the Upgrade to Premium Gift on top of it. — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 22:17, 1 September 2019 (UTC)
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:::: I don't know what you're talking about, wind. Story time is clearly more important than the actual video. (but in all seriousness the two '''accounts''' would be okay to reuse right?) [[User:Naleksuh|Naleksuh]] ([[User talk:Naleksuh|talk]]) 04:52, 4 September 2019 (UTC)
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:::::Yeah, sure, it would just be two separate videos — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 23:39, 8 September 2019 (UTC)
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:::<br> I kind of thought the role playing names were unnnecessary to begin with, and could also cause confusion as to whether or not those texts always appear in game. But if WP or thed feels that's the best way to do it without commercializing it then oh well for me.
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::: The two steam accounts would be kinda hard to sync up (and would also be a waste of $100), i'm willing to be proposed to if no one else will :) [[User:Naleksuh|Naleksuh]] ([[User talk:Naleksuh|talk]]) 01:06, 25 July 2019 (UTC)
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::::No need for roleplaying. It's cool if you want to do it but totally optional. — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 06:26, 29 July 2019 (UTC)
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== [[File:Mannpower Powerup King.png|16px|link=Mannpower]] [[Mannpower]] powerups ==
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{{c|Demonstrate all powerups.}}
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{{c|Show you can switch to the Grappling Hook under the effects of the Knockout powerup.}}
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Hello, I had a question about preforming/recording this demonstration. Mannpower has a domination mechanic (Not to be confused with [[Domination|dominations]]), this mechanic works by when a player has many more kills than other players on the enemy team, and so that player gets nerfs on their power ups. I'm guessing I would have to demonstrate this in the video, however I do not know how to activate it. I have not been able to activate this on myself in tr_karma, however even if I did, the player who is dominating does not get the message on their screen showing that they are dominating. The only effects the player who is dominating sees is they are marked for death if they have a power up, and a nerf on that power up for that player. I don't know how I would go about demonstrating the effects of domination mechanic, considering the viewer wouldn't know that being marked for death with a power up means you are dominating. If I were to get the domination mechanic to work, should I just show the class as marked for death, or something else? [[User:Andrew360|<span style="font-family:TF2 Build; color:#038d3a ">Andrew360</span>]] [[File:Edit_icon.png|20px|link=Special:Contributions/Andrew360]] [[File:Taunt Rancho Relaxo.png|25px|link=User_talk:Andrew360]] 01:51, 12 July 2022 (UTC)
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:This does sound hard to demonstrate. If you enable third-person mode, do you see the skull icon above the player's head in the 3D world (not on the HUD)? If so, here's a structure that might work:
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* Spawn enough enemies on the map such that you can reach domination status, and still have enough enemies left over to show that the effect isn't about killing *all* other enemies.
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* Start the demonstration in first-person mode.
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* Switch to third-person mode.
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* Kill enough enemies such that domination status appears.
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* Highlight the correlation between the third-person skull icon and the HUD one, for example by zooming in on both at once, or drawing a red box around both or something.
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Now you've established that "skull on HUD" = "having killed enough enemies".
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Now, demonstrate each powerup one by one. For each powerup, do a split-screen, with the left being non-dominating, and the right being already-in-dominating status. Pick up the powerup on both clips and demonstrate the effect. The skull icon being visible on the clip on the right should be enough of a hint that this is the cause. If not obvious enough, you can draw attention to it at the beginning of the clip, such as by drawing a red box over it or something.
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Hope this helps. I suggest doing a test demo with just one or two powerups demonstrated and posting it here first before doing all the work it would take to get this all done for all powerups, as there are a lot. (Perhaps each powerup should have its own video? That's a separate question...)
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— [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 21:39, 31 July 2022 (UTC)
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:I might try my hand at this, but only after I finish my other demonstrations and receive feedback and corrections for them. [[User:Po1yb1ank|Po1yb1ank]] ([[User talk:Po1yb1ank|talk]]) 23:56, 14 December 2023 (UTC)
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== {{Demo Header|Secret Saxton}} ==
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I don't think it's very needed, but since it seems very simple, I can do it · [[User:Ashe|<font color="DB9C1F">Ashe</font>]] ([[User talk:Ashe|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) 05:13, 16 December 2023 (UTC)
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:Won't you need another person since they are only delivered to players while playing on a server? [[User:Cheddar|Cheddar]] ([[User talk:Cheddar|talk]]) 08:18, 16 December 2023 (UTC)
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::To add on, maybe have it filmed from the perspective of the gift being sent, and have the perspective of the recipient? [[User:Cheddar|Cheddar]] ([[User talk:Cheddar|talk]]) 08:19, 16 December 2023 (UTC)
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:::I could help with this one, I can do most days after 22:00 CEST [[User:Po1yb1ank|Po1yb1ank]] ([[User talk:Po1yb1ank|talk]]) 15:29, 16 December 2023 (UTC)
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::::@Po1yb1ank we appreciate your enthusiasm, but before doing this, please complete the KGB video first. I can wait · [[User:Ashe|<font color="DB9C1F">Ashe</font>]] ([[User talk:Ashe|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) 17:45, 16 December 2023 (UTC)
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:::::Sure thing, I've just been trying to edit it and the fist bump videos, expect them both in the coming days. [[User:Po1yb1ank|Po1yb1ank]] ([[User talk:Po1yb1ank|talk]]) 21:34, 16 December 2023 (UTC)
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::::::I might delay doing the KGB taunt until the new year, I was going through the files and all of them have bots dropping the Smissmas presents, so expect the KGB to be completed later than expected. [[User:Po1yb1ank|Po1yb1ank]] ([[User talk:Po1yb1ank|talk]]) 13:55, 20 December 2023 (UTC)
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{{Outdent|6}} I'm still up for making this demonstration, I would need a lovely assistant to help out with it. [[User:Cheddar|Cheddar]] ([[User talk:Cheddar|talk]]) 18:24, 21 January 2024 (UTC)
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:IF you still need an assist I could help some time just let me know [[User:Mediarch|Mediarch]] ([[User talk:Mediarch|talk]]) 23:43, 12 March 2024 (UTC)
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::Yeah still need a hand with it, the only problem is getting a way to join one another because using create server won't make it joinable, I think there some other stuff you gotta do.<br>[[User:Cheddar|<font color="#193940">'''Cheddar'''</font>]] • [[User talk:Cheddar|<font color="#193940">'''Talk'''</font>]] 07:53, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
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::: pretty sure You should be able to use https://na.serveme.tf/ to temporarily rent a server. That's what a lot of the competitive teams use for matches. If that doesn't work I could ask around and know a few people that might have their own servers we could borrow [[User:Mediarch|Mediarch]] ([[User talk:Mediarch|talk]]) 08:49, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
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::::[https://drive.google.com/file/d/1vprZjfUfVNmIYVgJTo2B1kWNxwoXQ-zR/view?usp=sharing Here] is the demo feedback needed! <br>[[User:Cheddar|<font color="#193940">'''Cheddar'''</font>]] • [[User talk:Cheddar|<font color="#193940">'''Talk'''</font>]] 17:30, 27 April 2024 (UTC)
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:::::[https://drive.google.com/file/d/1n6LxHCztXG7Fql9_k6DIl_tzvvPxb6Z5/view?usp=sharing Here] is a newer version! <br>[[User:Cheddar|<font color="#193940">'''Cheddar'''</font>]] • [[User talk:Cheddar|<font color="#193940">'''Talk'''</font>]] 19:51, 28 April 2024 (UTC)
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== {{Demo Header|Spellbook Magazine}} ==
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{{c|Demonstrate all Magic spells with the Stock (Normal quality) version equipped.}}
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{{c|Maybe include this one on the [[Magic spells]] page, other spellbook variants are not needed (Fancy and Diary).}}<br>
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Suggestion: Use {{cvar|tf_test_spellindex}} to always get a specific spell · [[User:Ashe|<font color="DB9C1F">Ashe</font>]] ([[User talk:Ashe|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) 21:19, 28 January 2024 (UTC)
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== {{Demo Header|Fancy Spellbook}} ==
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{{c|Same as above, with the exception that the particle effects that emit on the hand are different.}}
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== {{Demo Header|Fireproof Secret Diary}} ==
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{{c|Same as above, with the exception that the particle effects that emit on the hand are different.}}
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== {{Demo Header|Kritz or Treat Canteen}} ==
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== [[File:Heavyhumiliation.png|16px|link=Match outcomes]] [[Match outcomes]] ==
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{{c|Current one does not show front, crouching, running, etc, at all angles.}}
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So there's a bit of a problem with showing the other angles with this demonstration, as you can't actually rotate the camera. Despite it being in third person, you cannot change the angle of the camera nor use +left or +right to make only the camera move. Any attempt to move the camera either doesn't work or makes the character move along with the camera. My original plan for this demonstration was the following:
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* Show a split screen with a player on RED team on one screen and player on BLU team on the other screen
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** The RED player would capture the intelligence on 2Fort, and the other screen would show the BLU player in humiliation after they lose
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*** This part would repeat for each class
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* It would then cut to tr_karma where I would rotate the camera around the class when they're standing, crouching, running, etc
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However I can't do this because I can't rotate the camera, does anyone have any ideas on how to rotate or have other ideas of how to demonstration and show the different angles? <br>[[User:Andrew360|<span style="font-family:TF2 Build; color:#038d3a ">Andrew360</span>]] [[File:Edit_icon.png|20px|link=Special:Contributions/Andrew360]] [[File:Taunt Rancho Relaxo.png|25px|link=User_talk:Andrew360]] 22:47, 6 February 2023 (UTC)
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::How about just use the RED player to see the BLU humiliation animation. Like:
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::''RED player is the main camera, BLU player is a bot/a smaller pip/split screen in the video''
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::#BLU player stands beside the intel point
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::#RED player captures the intel and win the game
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::#BLU player enters humiliation
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::#RED player look at the BLU player
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::#BLU player moves around to show off the humiliation animation.
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::I feel like this also shows off the concept of "match outcomes", make the whole story connected via one team wins and see another team loses with humiliation animations. Do we have to use tr_karma map for demonstration? Is this demonstration video about "match outcomes" or "humiliation animations"?--[[User:AlexT|<span style="background:linear-gradient(#D1EEFC, #81F3FD);border:1px #99F3FD solid;color:#007FFF;border-radius:8px">'''Alex'''</span>]]┋[[User talk:AlexT|<span style="color: #FF6600;">'''T'''</span>]] 03:19, 7 February 2023 (UTC)
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:Simply using {{code|thirdperson_mayamode}} it would be possible to show off these animations from a stationary angle (turning your character rather than camera, although tr_karma/tr_target have no winning objective, so you'd need a different map for it (I suggest [[Thunder Mountain]] and standing in first BLU's spawn so it's still somewhat related to the tr_target map, using {{code|mp_bonusroundtime}} to extend the time at the end and just capping the first point).<br>[[User:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">GrampaSwood</font>]] ([[User talk:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) 11:01, 7 February 2023 (UTC)
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::I'm a bit confused on what you mean on the capping part, as you say to stay in BLU spawn, but also cap the point to win which would make BLU would win and RED would be in humiliation. Do you mean to make the time run out so RED wins instead? <br> [[User:Andrew360|<span style="font-family:TF2 Build; color:#038d3a ">Andrew360</span>]] [[File:Edit_icon.png|20px|link=Special:Contributions/Andrew360]] [[File:Taunt Rancho Relaxo.png|25px|link=User_talk:Andrew360]] 23:24, 7 February 2023 (UTC)
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:::Either works. Just any way to make the classes go into the humiliation pose. I personally wouldn't mind it that much if RED was in BLU spawn, but it's up to you.<br>[[User:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">GrampaSwood</font>]] ([[User talk:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) 12:33, 8 February 2023 (UTC)
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::::I went in game to test out thirdperson_mayamode, and it does not work, as for some reason the losing animation isn't considered as in "thirdperson" by the game I think. Does anyone else have any other ideas? Only other way I can think of is using SourceTV, however I don't know how to set that up. <br> [[User:Andrew360|<span style="font-family:TF2 Build; color:#038d3a ">Andrew360</span>]] [[File:Edit_icon.png|20px|link=Special:Contributions/Andrew360]] [[File:Taunt Rancho Relaxo.png|25px|link=User_talk:Andrew360]] 01:15, 12 February 2023 (UTC)
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== {{Demo Header|Crusader's Crossbow}} ==
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{{c|Ubercharge gain rate is reduced in the same way that the Medi Gun's healing (and therefore, Ubercharge build rate) is - it is based on the last time the target was in combat.}}
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{{c|Does not show that if you try to heal up an enemy Spy, Über is not built.}}
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{{c|Does not show that if you heal an enemy player through a Pyro's reflect, Über is built.}}
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I removed the clip from the previous demonstration when the medic is building his übercharge with the crossbow, the actual changes make it way too long. [https://youtu.be/Ssaodg-dl7g Video] — [[User:Thedop|Thedop]] ([[User talk:Thedop|talk]]) 14:44, 11 September 2019 (UTC)
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:The picture-in-picture clip is too large and covers the center of the main video's vision. So when the heavy/spy turns to see the medic, it just doesn't show up on the screen. Please decrease the size of the picture-in-picture — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 00:38, 16 September 2019 (UTC)
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::[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6asv69_x0o&feature=youtu.be Second try] — [[User:Thedop|Thedop]] ([[User talk:Thedop|talk]]) 06:45, 25 September 2019 (UTC)
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:::The Minigun is still hiding the medic when he's firing... — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 00:07, 30 September 2019 (UTC)
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::::''*sigh*'' Thedop's demonstration has been in hiatus for two years. Maybe I can make my own demonstration if Thedop doesn't mind. — [[User:Exaskliri|Exaskliri]] <sub>(they/them)</sub> ([[User talk:Exaskliri|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Exaskliri|contribs]]) 06:43, 14 April 2022 (UTC)
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:::::Demonstration reservations are only valid for 2 weeks. If the reservation tag remains on a video and no action has happened since, you can ignore the reservation and replace it with a reservation of your own. — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 00:33, 24 April 2022 (UTC)
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::::::Oh, and by the way, don't forget to add a demonstration of healing afterburn (probably the most common type of status effect). [[User:Qwertyxp2000|Qwertyxp2000]] ([[User talk:Qwertyxp2000|talk]]) 23:17, 16 June 2022 (UTC)
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::::::: Definitely doable for making an entry about using Crossbow at point blank range to both hit enemies and heal teammates. [[User:Qwertyxp2000|Qwertyxp2000]] ([[User talk:Qwertyxp2000|talk]]) 21:06, 25 June 2022 (UTC)
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== {{Demo Header|Dalokohs Bar}} ==
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{{c|The model now included the bite mark, the plate model added}}
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As mentioned on the weapon's page, the overheal bug is still effective since JI and i'm not sure if it's temporary or not.  - '''[[User:Thedop|Thedop]]''' 19:11, 20 Obtober 2018 (UTC+1)
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:Got this video finished, just need 1 more scene with Thedop.
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:Edit on 27/6/2020: Same thing applies<br>[[User:GrampaSwood|GrampaSwood]] ([[User talk:GrampaSwood|talk]]) 13:12, 9 February 2020 (UTC)
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::The video files are on a different PC now, so unlikely I'll ever bother to retrieve them. Someone else can do them at some point.<br>[[File:BLU Wiki Cap.png|20px|link=List of Wiki Cap owners]] | [[Help:Group rights|<span style="color:green;font-family:TF2 Build;">s</span>]] | [[User:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">GrampaSwood</font>]] [[File:PraisetheSun.png|20px|alt=Praise the Sun!]] ([[User talk:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) ([[Special:Contributions/GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">contribs</font>]]) 21:36, 12 November 2023 (UTC)
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A demonstration of the Dalokohs bar https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F8lOulgqmZ4
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'''[[User:Wimmer|Wimmer]]''' 23:01, 1 December 2023 (GMT+1)
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:Looks good.<br>[[File:BLU Wiki Cap.png|20px|link=List of Wiki Cap owners]] | [[Help:Group rights|<span style="color:green;font-family:TF2 Build;">s</span>]] | [[User:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">GrampaSwood</font>]] [[File:PraisetheSun.png|20px|alt=Praise the Sun!]] ([[User talk:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) ([[Special:Contributions/GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">contribs</font>]]) 12:37, 2 December 2023 (UTC)
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::In the loadout scene the heavy is not holding the chocolate. You could also increase the volume by 50%. Everything else is good · [[User:Ashe|<font color="DB9C1F">Ashe</font>]] ([[User talk:Ashe|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) 05:31, 17 February 2024 (UTC)
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[https://drive.google.com/file/d/18J16uO_PVG_MiDEnopxAG0-ARRbK0qA_/view?usp=sharing Here's V1] of the Dalokohs bar demo [[User:Mediarch|'''Mediarch''']] [[File:User Mediarch PFP.png|25px]][[User:Mediarch|<font color="#ff66cc"> ♥ </font>]][[User talk:Mediarch|'''Talk''']][[User:Mediarch|<font color="#ff66cc"> ♥ </font>]][[Special:Contributions/Mediarch|'''My Edits''']] 22:57, 20 April 2024 (UTC)
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:Not sure if it's a bit picky, but I personally think that the recharge scene should involve Heavy eating chocolate off cooldown, so it will show how many chocolates Heavy can eat before the Sandvich recharges. [[User:Qwertyxp2000|Qwertyxp2000]] ([[User talk:Qwertyxp2000|talk]]) 22:07, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
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:: [https://drive.google.com/file/d/11Hb4fEVxa7i6rgeR_wRJEkJJCTeRZHzr/view?usp=sharing chocolatev2 with more chocolate eating][[User:Mediarch|'''Mediarch''']] [[File:User Mediarch PFP.png|25px]][[User:Mediarch|<font color="#ff66cc"> ♥ </font>]][[User talk:Mediarch|'''Talk''']][[User:Mediarch|<font color="#ff66cc"> ♥ </font>]][[Special:Contributions/Mediarch|'''My Edits''']] 22:53, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
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== {{Demo Header|Enforcer}} ==
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Note: Future redos won't have to do as many status effect clips as the previous video. - '''[[User:Thedop|Thedop]]''' 19:11, 20 October 2018 (UTC+1)
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== {{Demo Header|Fishcake}} ==
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= Weapons that need to be done =
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See [[#Dalokohs Bar|Dalokohs Bar]]. - '''[[User:Thedop|Thedop]]''' 10:39, 12 October 2018 (UTC+1)
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:Got this video finished, just need 1 more scene with Thedop.
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:Edit on 27/6/2020: Same thing applies<br>[[User:GrampaSwood|GrampaSwood]] ([[User talk:GrampaSwood|talk]]) 13:12, 9 February 2020 (UTC)
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Here is my version of the Fishcake weapon demonstration https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ym8r-gSEm10 - '''[[User:Wimmer|Wimmer]]''' 4:46, 25 November 2023 (GMT+1)
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:You don't need to spin the Heavy around in the Loadout menu, simply hover over the weapon then press escape once you feel like the viewer has had enough time to read the description. When the Soldier fires, you are also getting healed by the Medic at the same time. There is a command to only have bots with a specific weapon fire, not sure what the parameter for the Rocket Launcher is, but using that command bound to a key would be better as it wouldn't temporarily have you healed by the Medic. Alternatively, try to stand in a position where the Medic won't hit you when he heals.
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:It seems like the clip for dropping the Fishcake on the ground is missing, it's meant to demonstrate that picking it up yourself while injured doesn't heal you. It's also not necessary to use voice lines, no need to yell for Medic or say thanks. Although a nice touch, it makes the video feel more like a cartoonish animation video than a demonstration. When the clip with the Medic starts, ideally you would have an unbitten Fishcake, and when the clip of the Soldier starts ideally you'd have max ammo (so 4 loaded, 20 reserve). When killing the Heavy, make sure your hit/killsound is off and that you look at the ammo pack he drops before walking over it. Currently, it looks like walking over a dropped Fishcake gives you health. Also a minor nitpick, friendly classes should be called "Friendly Classname". So rather than "Medic", it should be "Friendly Medic".
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: I like the inspect after eating it, that's not smth that's been done before IIRC but it's a nice touch.<br>[[File:BLU Wiki Cap.png|20px|link=List of Wiki Cap owners]] | [[Help:Group rights|<span style="color:green;font-family:TF2 Build;">s</span>]] | [[User:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">GrampaSwood</font>]] [[File:PraisetheSun.png|20px|alt=Praise the Sun!]] ([[User talk:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) ([[Special:Contributions/GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">contribs</font>]]) 12:12, 25 November 2023 (UTC)
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::Thanks for the verifications, I'll make sure to fix all of these issues. And I do too think it's worth inspecting the item after eating it, especially with how the fishcake never had a bit model before.
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::'''[[User:Wimmer|Wimmer]]''' 12:14, 28 November 2023 (GMT+1)
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::Here is the new version of the Fishcake weapon demonstration with the suggested changes https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Md1n6ei8Z1M
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::'''[[User:Wimmer|Wimmer]]''' 14:48, 28 November 2023 (GMT+1)
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:::In the loadout menu, your mouse should be over the Fishcake the entire time (this can be easily fixed, it only requires editing so no entire redo). The only thing that's missing is a clip of the Medic being on fire and being extinguished (you can skip the Medic walking over it, you can just make it so the Medic is on fire and then you throw it directly at him. Otherwise it requires 2 players). Other than that, it looks good to me, especially the transition between the first clip and the second clip. That must have taken a long time to set up, though do note that it's not entirely necessary if you do feel like it's too much effort, so don't worry about doing that each transition.<br>[[File:BLU Wiki Cap.png|20px|link=List of Wiki Cap owners]] | [[Help:Group rights|<span style="color:green;font-family:TF2 Build;">s</span>]] | [[User:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">GrampaSwood</font>]] [[File:PraisetheSun.png|20px|alt=Praise the Sun!]] ([[User talk:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) ([[Special:Contributions/GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">contribs</font>]]) 14:04, 28 November 2023 (UTC)
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:::Here is the new version of the Fishcake weapon demonstration with the new changes https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xFnrRS-ihbY
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:::'''[[User:Wimmer|Wimmer]]''' 21:22, 29 November 2023 (GMT+1)
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::::Yeah looks good, although I swear in previous clips you were damaged when you picked up the Fishcake that was dropped on the floor. If you are going to re-record that, perhaps reload your Rocket Launcher beforehand to make sure it shows you get healed but no ammo. It also doesn't show off the Scout's 25 extra HP from dropped lunchbox items.<br>[[File:BLU Wiki Cap.png|20px|link=List of Wiki Cap owners]] | [[Help:Group rights|<span style="color:green;font-family:TF2 Build;">s</span>]] | [[User:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">GrampaSwood</font>]] [[File:PraisetheSun.png|20px|alt=Praise the Sun!]] ([[User talk:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) ([[Special:Contributions/GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">contribs</font>]]) 20:39, 29 November 2023 (UTC)
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::::Added the reload for Soldier and the scout scene https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OKHJxhkDWxQ
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::::'''[[User:Wimmer|Wimmer]]''' 23:42, 29 November 2023 (GMT+1)
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::::I just realised I forgot to disable the Killsound again, I’ll have to modify that
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::::'''[[User:Wimmer|Wimmer]]''' 12:12, 30 November 2023 (GMT+1)
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::::New revision with no killsounds https://youtu.be/tOotHamBl2s
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::::'''[[User:Wimmer|Wimmer]]''' 00:45, 1 December 2023 (GMT+1)
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:::::Seems like you're not injured during the clips where you kill the Heavy, other than that I don't see any issues.<br>[[File:BLU Wiki Cap.png|20px|link=List of Wiki Cap owners]] | [[Help:Group rights|<span style="color:green;font-family:TF2 Build;">s</span>]] | [[User:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">GrampaSwood</font>]] [[File:PraisetheSun.png|20px|alt=Praise the Sun!]] ([[User talk:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) ([[Special:Contributions/GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">contribs</font>]]) 00:37, 1 December 2023 (UTC)
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::::::Final edit of the Fishcake Demonstration video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kTVlybWCIf4
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::::::'''[[User:Wimmer|Wimmer]]''' 22:06, 1 December 2023 (GMT+1)
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{{Outdent|6}}Looks good to me.<br>[[File:BLU Wiki Cap.png|20px|link=List of Wiki Cap owners]] | [[Help:Group rights|<span style="color:green;font-family:TF2 Build;">s</span>]] | [[User:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">GrampaSwood</font>]] [[File:PraisetheSun.png|20px|alt=Praise the Sun!]] ([[User talk:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) ([[Special:Contributions/GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">contribs</font>]]) 12:37, 2 December 2023 (UTC)
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:Looks good. Send the link· [[User:Ashe|<font color="DB9C1F">Ashe</font>]] ([[User talk:Ashe|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) 17:49, 17 February 2024 (UTC)
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[https://drive.google.com/file/d/1D7PKA13E0BcQvEVsaRmmDA5yFlp3CLQA/view?usp=drive_link Fishcakev1][[User:Mediarch|'''Mediarch''']] [[File:User Mediarch PFP.png|25px]][[User:Mediarch|<font color="#ff66cc"> ♥ </font>]][[User talk:Mediarch|'''Talk''']][[User:Mediarch|<font color="#ff66cc"> ♥ </font>]][[Special:Contributions/Mediarch|'''My Edits''']] 20:25, 19 April 2024 (UTC)
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:: Should I also include a comparison of how fast it recharges compared to the normal Sandvich? Would just be a quick little sided by side. [[User:Mediarch|'''Mediarch''']] [[File:User Mediarch PFP.png|25px]][[User:Mediarch|<font color="#ff66cc"> ♥ </font>]][[User talk:Mediarch|'''Talk''']][[User:Mediarch|<font color="#ff66cc"> ♥ </font>]][[Special:Contributions/Mediarch|'''My Edits''']] 00:12, 20 April 2024 (UTC)
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:::Yes.<br>[[File:BLU Wiki Cap.png|20px|link=List of Wiki Cap owners]] {{!}} [[Help:Group rights|<span style="color:green;font-family:TF2 Build;">s</span>]] {{!}} [[User:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">GrampaSwood</font>]] [[File:PraisetheSun.png|20px|alt=Praise the Sun!]] ([[User talk:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) ([[Special:Contributions/GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">contribs</font>]]) 08:41, 20 April 2024 (UTC)
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:::: [https://drive.google.com/file/d/18rk3bCFdC3APxAyGTyBy9qIY6WkwmsCr/view?usp=sharing Here's V2] with the sandvich comparison [[User:Mediarch|'''Mediarch''']] [[File:User Mediarch PFP.png|25px]][[User:Mediarch|<font color="#ff66cc"> ♥ </font>]][[User talk:Mediarch|'''Talk''']][[User:Mediarch|<font color="#ff66cc"> ♥ </font>]][[Special:Contributions/Mediarch|'''My Edits''']] 22:55, 20 April 2024 (UTC)
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:::::Likewise with the Chocolate comment, I sorta believe it would be a good idea to have Heavy eat the fishcake off cooldown just to show how many fishcakes he can eat before the Sandvich recharges. [[User:Qwertyxp2000|Qwertyxp2000]] ([[User talk:Qwertyxp2000|talk]]) 22:11, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
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::::::[https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Z46i8aGJlCRNc1UAAAwm8tNDJo1mFU4A/view?usp=sharing fishcake V3][[User:Mediarch|'''Mediarch''']] [[File:User Mediarch PFP.png|25px]][[User:Mediarch|<font color="#ff66cc"> ♥ </font>]][[User talk:Mediarch|'''Talk''']][[User:Mediarch|<font color="#ff66cc"> ♥ </font>]][[Special:Contributions/Mediarch|'''My Edits''']] 22:57, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
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== {{Demo Header|Gloves of Running Urgently}} ==
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{{c|Show the hidden (?) functionality with Dalakohs Bar/Fishcake.}}
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{{c|Have a section dedicated to see if it's faster to run with the GRU at a certain point + eating the Dalokhs vs. not using the GRU.}}
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GRU has a hidden (?) functionality with the chocolate bar which can regenerate all the health lost upon eating. Not shown on the demonstration video, should it be? [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MvV_CnCpezo Video about the functionality]. I am also not sure if this should be a thing on the Daloks/Fishcake video or GRU (or both). [[File:User Gabrielwoj Signature Icon.png|15px|link=User:Gabrielwoj]] - [[File:User Gabrielwoj Signature 1.png|link=User:Gabrielwoj]] ▪ [[File:User Gabrielwoj Signature 2.png|link=Special:Contribs/Gabrielwoj]] - [[File:User Gabrielwoj Signature 3.png|link=User talk:Gabrielwoj]] 14:29, 14 August 2021 (UTC)
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:It's most likely a glitch and not intended. Yes, it's been out since forever, but so are other glitches out there, and these videos typically don't demonstrate these, in order to avoid a redo in case valve ever fixes them (lol, I know). — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 05:03, 17 September 2021 (UTC)
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== {{Demo Header|Holiday Punch}} ==
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{{c|Does not demonstrate that disguised spies do not laugh from Holiday Punch.}}
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{{c|Does not demonstrate interaction between cloaked spies and Holiday Punch crits.}}
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I kind of felt Holiday Punch could possibly be redone such that it demonstrates its interaction with cloaked and disguised spies. [[User:Qwertyxp2000|Qwertyxp2000]] ([[User talk:Qwertyxp2000|talk]]) 08:11, 17 March 2020 (UTC)
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:Not very practical, but sure, if anyone's up for it — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 04:11, 24 April 2020 (UTC)
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::Not sure if I have to create a new section for the Holiday Punch or add information on an already existing one, but there's several things that probably should also be demonstrated:
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::{{c|Demonstrate that enemies underwater doesn't laugh on the back / critical hits, which therefore, they don't receive damage}} (The map used for demonstrations does not have water, though)
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::{{c|Demonstrate that punching an enemy at the back / doing a critical hit on an enemy that is jumping / is on the air, has no effect, and does no damage}}
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::{{c|Demonstrate that it's possible to tickle enemies that are being Ubercharged, possibly include both the patient and the Medic being tickled}}
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::* Tickle the patient first, show that it's still in the effects of Uber, and tickle the Medic second, that would probably be more ideal, so it shows that when a Medic is tickled, his target loses the healing / ubercharge
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::* Perhaps also demonstrate the Quick-Fix ubercharge, since it mentions it blocks "movement-impairing effects", which isn't the case for the Holiday Punch (I'm pretty sure you can still get tickled with the Quick-Fix uber)
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::{{c|Demonstrate that a Scout with the effects of Bonk! can be tickled}}
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::{{c|Demonstrate that a Soldier with the Battalion's Backup active, as well his teammates receiving the Backup effect, can still be tickled}}
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:: A few other ones that I am unsure about:
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::{{c|Demonstrate that it's not possible to tickle robots and giant robots on MVM}} (I don't think we often make MVM-related stuff on these demonstrations, unless it's an unique mechanic like the Projectile Shield)
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::{{c|Demonstrate that an enemy who is taunting does not get tickled, and that it receives no damage on critical hits}} [[File:User Gabrielwoj Signature Icon.png|15px|Headphones style when?|link=User:Gabrielwoj]] - [[File:User Gabrielwoj Signature 1.png|link=User:Gabrielwoj]] ▪ [[File:User Gabrielwoj Signature 2.png|link=Special:Contribs/Gabrielwoj]] - [[File:User Gabrielwoj Signature 3.png|link=User talk:Gabrielwoj]] 04:23, 24 April 2022 (UTC)
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:::The <code>tr_karma_rc1</code> map has water (see [[Sydney Sleeper]] demonstration [https://youtu.be/95qD-3XF8ws?t=132 here]). I use that map for demonstrations, as it is preferred (according to the Weapon Demonstration page). — [[User:Exaskliri|Exaskliri]] <sub>({{gender:Exaskliri|he/him|she/her|they/them}})</sub> ([[User talk:Exaskliri|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Exaskliri|contribs]]) 09:23, 24 April 2022 (UTC)
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:::No to the Quick-Fix + Bonk + Battalion's Backup things; as the project page states, non-stock item interactions are usually not demonstrated, in order to avoid having a full explosion of weapon interactions to demonstrate. The Quick Fix one also sounds like a bug, so usually that isn't worth demonstrating either because it has marginal utility and may eventually get patched, which would just create more video work later down the line. But all the other points are good to demonstrate, so +1 that a redo is in order for this one — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 04:49, 12 May 2022 (UTC)
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I have an idea on how the new video might be represented:
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'''Part 1: The Main Gang (Pyro, Soldier, Medic, Spy)'''
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*Do the same actions as was done in the original video
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'''Part 2: Basic Interactions'''
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Do the same actions as was done in the original video, demonstrating Kritzkrieg on Soldier (via friendly Medic) and Jarate on Demoman (via friendly Sniper), plus another for Medic interactions.
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'''Part 2a:'''
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# Approach friendly Kritzkrieg Medic, who has full charge
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# Get charged with the Kritzkrieg buff
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# Keep punching the enemy Soldier until the buff wears off
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# Punch again while the buff is off, and keep doing it until the Soldier dies
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# Approach friendly Sniper holding Jarate
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# Let the Sniper throw Jarate at the enemy Demoman
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# Attack the Demoman normally while he is Jarated
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# Attack the Demoman from behind while he is Jarated
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# Kill the Demoman normally again while he is Jarated
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# '''(This is where the new stuff begins)''' Approach an enemy Medic who is healing a <s>friendly</s> enemy Scout with his Medi Gun
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# Attack the Scout from the front and behind
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# Do the same as Step 2 onto Scout except while Übercharged
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# Do the same as Step 4 except on Medic
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'''Part 3: Versus Mittens Heavy'''
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# Approach the enemy Mittens Heavy
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# Attack the Mittens Heavy with your Holiday Punch. Watch him laugh.
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# Let the Mittens Heavy attack you with his Holiday Punch. Watch yourself laugh.
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# Mittens Heavy will swap out Holiday Punch for Minigun.
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# Attack the Heavy with your Holiday Punch.
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# Swap your Holiday Punch for the Shotgun
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# Mittens Heavy will swap out Minigun for Holiday Punch
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# Let the Mittens Heavy attack you with his Holiday Punch.
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# '''(This is where the new stuff begins)''' Jump, and while mid-air let the Mittens Heavy attack you with his Holiday Punch. There should be no laugh.
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# Go behind the Mitten Heavy's back
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# Let the Mittens Heavy jump, and attack the Mittens Heavy with your Holiday Punch. There should be no laugh.
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View from the Heavy's and Spy's points of view, with a smaller video on the top-right (or something like that) for the Spy's point of view.
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# Approach the enemy Spy
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# Let the enemy Spy cloak
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# Attack the Spy with your Holiday Punch from behind. There should be no laugh.
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# Let the enemy Spy uncloak and disguise as any class (maybe the Heavy again)
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# Attack the Spy with your Holiday Punch from behind. There should be no laugh.
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# Let the enemy Engineer taunt from his Shotgun. It should be the one where he dances around.
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# While the enemy Engineer is taunting, attack him from behind with the Holiday Punch. There should be no laugh.
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# Attack him from behind with the Holiday Punch. There should be no laugh.
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'''Part 6: Robots'''
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# Approach an enemy Robot, preferably the Holiday Punch Heavy Robot.
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# Attack him with your Holiday Punch from the front, and then attack him from behind. There should be no laugh.
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<s>[[User:Qwertyxp2000|Qwertyxp2000]] ([[User talk:Qwertyxp2000|talk]]) 02:49, 8 June 2022 (UTC)</s> <s>[[User:Qwertyxp2000|Qwertyxp2000]] ([[User talk:Qwertyxp2000|talk]]) 02:51, 8 June 2022 (UTC)</s> [[User:Qwertyxp2000|Qwertyxp2000]] ([[User talk:Qwertyxp2000|talk]]) 10:08, 8 June 2022 (UTC)
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:Very detailed, nice. — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 22:48, 19 June 2022 (UTC)
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::By the way, I also think that it would be helpful to add a section dedicating to observing a duration comparison for all [[Schadenfreude]] taunts. I have a feeling that the length of the taunt has an impact on gameplay of the Holiday Punch. So maybe we could do a section where 9 Holiday Punch Heavies simultaneously attack one of each class, which demonstrates the time it would take to get out of the forced animation.  [[User:Qwertyxp2000|Qwertyxp2000]] ([[User talk:Qwertyxp2000|talk]]) 01:41, 22 June 2022 (UTC)
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:::Might be cool if only for the comedy of it all. — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 21:39, 31 July 2022 (UTC)
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::::On "Part 4 - Let the enemy Spy uncloak and disguise as any class (maybe the Heavy again)", why not make the Spy disguise as the Heavy, and make sure that the Holiday Punch is active? The Spy won't be able to laugh, but I wonder if you (the player), would laugh. In case that happens, then it would be important to also showcase trying to punch the Spy from behind without having him with the Holiday Punch active. [[File:User Gabrielwoj Signature Icon.png|15px|Headphones style when?|link=User:Gabrielwoj]] - [[File:User Gabrielwoj Signature 1.png|link=User:Gabrielwoj]] ▪ [[File:User Gabrielwoj Signature 2.png|link=Special:Contribs/Gabrielwoj]] - [[File:User Gabrielwoj Signature 3.png|link=User talk:Gabrielwoj]] 03:19, 18 February 2023 (UTC)
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:::::Actually, never mind. For some reason I thought you also laughed with who you just punched that is also wearing the mittens (it commonly happens when both Heavies hold their left clicks after being tickled). But, the Spy wearing the Holiday Punch may be the best scenario here, so it shows that the disguise is not lost (although make sure to show also without the mittens active, and, when the mittens is active for Spy, punch him from the back, then punch him from the front). [[File:User Gabrielwoj Signature Icon.png|15px|Headphones style when?|link=User:Gabrielwoj]] - [[File:User Gabrielwoj Signature 1.png|link=User:Gabrielwoj]] ▪ [[File:User Gabrielwoj Signature 2.png|link=Special:Contribs/Gabrielwoj]] - [[File:User Gabrielwoj Signature 3.png|link=User talk:Gabrielwoj]] 13:08, 18 February 2023 (UTC)
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== {{Demo Header|Original}} ==
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{{Reservation|[[User:MudkipOnYT|MudkipOnYT]] ([[User talk:MudkipOnYT|talk]]) 18:23, 5 April 2024 (UTC)}}
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Old Reservation (5th January 2024)
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{{c|Missing new reload sound}}
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I'd say this is an incredibly low priority one, may not even be worth redoing.<br>[[User:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">GrampaSwood</font>]] ([[User talk:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) 11:23, 17 January 2023 (UTC)
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I hope I've done this correctly, I am just beginning to get to work setting up to film my demonstration — [[User:MudkipOnYT|MudkipOnYT]] ([[User talk:MudkipOnYT|talk]]) 18:23, 5 April 2024 (UTC)
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[https://drive.google.com/file/d/1AFvw7WW2T2ND179t1MBsemdeGDrhApZV/view?usp=share_link Here is the link] to my finished demonstration, I noticed other users who uploaded to Google Drive being told by the Moderators that their videos were in 30FPS. This one is at 60FPS, it just doesn't play at 60FPS in the Google Drive embedded player, it must be downloaded. Awaiting feedback! — [[User:MudkipOnYT|MudkipOnYT]] ([[User talk:MudkipOnYT|talk]]) 12:10, 6 April 2024 (UTC)
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:In the firing angle demonstrations, wait for about 3 seconds before commencing the firing. The rightwards angle demonstration is a bit too quick. Same with the frontal angle demonstration. Also, for the rocket jumping demonstration, don't wiggle around the screen so much during those idle phases; 1:29-1:31 are quite noticeably obvious. [[User:Qwertyxp2000|Qwertyxp2000]] ([[User talk:Qwertyxp2000|talk]]) 22:03, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
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Yeah I notice all of that now, can just go and re-record it at some point, I also interrupted the reload animation at the beginning. - [[User:MudkipOnYT|MudkipOnYT]] ([[User talk:MudkipOnYT|talk]]) 10:05, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
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== {{Demo Header|Power Up Canteen}} ==
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{{c|doesn't show Canteen Specialist upgrades like Battery Canteens demo does}}
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I feel like I can do a demonstration for this one. But my canteen is a crafted version so it has my username on it. Is that acceptable ? [[User:Kaezle|Kaezle]] ([[User talk:Kaezle|talk]]) 04:21, 25 August 2019 (UTC)
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: If you right click on it you should be able to remove that. [[User:Naleksuh|Naleksuh]] ([[User talk:Naleksuh|talk]]) 06:22, 25 August 2019 (UTC)
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::I think the stock version (Normal quality) should be used over the Unique one, considering all players have it. [[File:User Gabrielwoj Signature Icon.png|15px|link=User:Gabrielwoj]] - [[File:User Gabrielwoj Signature 1.png|link=User:Gabrielwoj]] ▪ [[File:User Gabrielwoj Signature 2.png|link=Special:Contribs/Gabrielwoj]] - [[File:User Gabrielwoj Signature 3.png|link=User talk:Gabrielwoj]] 04:23, 14 August 2021 (UTC)
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== {{Demo Header|Sandvich}} ==
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{{c|Show that a dropped plate doesn't heal}}
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Hinaomi recommended this, so might as well try it. I would be up to make it if it's a valid reason [[User:GrampaSwood|GrampaSwood]] ([[User talk:GrampaSwood|talk]]) 12:02, 13 September 2019 (UTC)
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:Not sure I follow. You mean that picking up a dropped plate restocks the sandvich? That's already demonstrated... — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 00:38, 16 September 2019 (UTC)
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::Show that picking up a sandvich that's dropped via mouse2 doesn't heal.<br>[[User:GrampaSwood|GrampaSwood]] ([[User talk:GrampaSwood|talk]]) 05:30, 16 September 2019 (UTC)
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:::Oh OK, yeah. Might replace the existing pickup from full health then, so that it doesn't make the clip longer. — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 04:28, 23 September 2019 (UTC)
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::::Sure. Yes, please replace the existing pickup. — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 04:11, 24 April 2020 (UTC)
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:Just talked on the IRC channel today ([https://irc.biringa.com/channel/tfwiki/2022-04-18.html#07-53-57 log]) and GrampaSwood willingly relinquished the reservation for me. I am gonna focus on my reservations first, though. — [[User:Exaskliri|Exaskliri]] <sub>(they/them)</sub> ([[User talk:Exaskliri|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Exaskliri|contribs]]) 15:54, 18 April 2022 (UTC)
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== {{Demo Header|Self-Aware Beauty Mark}} ==
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{{Reservation|[[User:KingK|KingK]] ([[User talk:KingK|talk]]) 04:16, 6 January 2024 (UTC)}}
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{{c|Updated description. (Also handy for putting out a fire)}}
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{{c|Extinguish an ally reduces the cooldown by 20%}}
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[https://imgur.com/a/4bwI65r A funny bug] but i think i better waiting for Valve to fix it. - '''[[User:Thedop|Thedop]]''' 10:35, 12 October 2018 (UTC+1)
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Hey there, I decided I'd help out on this
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Hopefully around Jan 8-9 would be where I have everything for this demonstration. [[User:KingK|KingK]] ([[User talk:KingK|talk]]) 04:16, 6 January 2024 (UTC)
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Alright I got it all right here.
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[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JM1TOt4zxiw Video]
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- [[User:KingK|KingK]] ([[User talk:KingK|talk]]) 03:51, 10 January 2024 (UTC)
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:Seems like your graphics settings aren't on the max, the windows on tr_karma also seem to be bugged. For the first clip, your kill sound should be turned off. For the second clip, make sure to switch all the bots back to the Shotgun. For the third clip, the clip is quite laggy and the sound suddenly increases halfway through. Fourth clip looks fine, albeit with some quality issues as mentioned before. For the first Spy clip, make sure to wait until he's fully invisible to throw the Jarate on him. Splitting up the cloaked and disguised Spy clip like this is better imo, rather than having it be one clip like the original. In the clip where you extinguish 3 teammates, it's fine to just use a single Heavy for that rather than 3 teammates. Maybe 3 clips at the same time would also be suitable for this: one to show off no extinguish, one to show off 1 extinguish, and one to show off extinguishing 2 teammates. It would show that 1 ally extinguished and 2 allies extinguished equally reduces the cooldown.
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:Other than that, remember to stand still between each clip. It seems like this was most notable on the clip with you and the Heavy being extinguished. The minimum acceptable video quality would be 1080p 60fps, perhaps recording only at that resolution rather than 4k will help with running the game a bit smoother, as currently some clips are very laggy even on 1080p.<br>[[File:BLU Wiki Cap.png|20px|link=List of Wiki Cap owners]] | [[Help:Group rights|<span style="color:green;font-family:TF2 Build;">s</span>]] | [[User:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">GrampaSwood</font>]] [[File:PraisetheSun.png|20px|alt=Praise the Sun!]] ([[User talk:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) ([[Special:Contributions/GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">contribs</font>]]) 11:48, 10 January 2024 (UTC)
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::Aight will get working on it, Thanks Grampa Swood  [[User:KingK|KingK]] ([[User talk:KingK|talk]]) 11:52, 10 January 2024 (UTC)
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::Here's the newly updated video
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::[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_3_hfEnpB4 Video]
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::[[User:KingK|KingK]] ([[User talk:KingK|talk]]) 15:54, 12 January 2024 (UTC)
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:::The video still looks laggy. It was not recorded at 60 fps. Also your antialiasing settings are still low. Use 4x or 8x.
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:::The video still has some problems. General: You wait too much between clips. When using half/third width clips don't disabled the HUD. I know that sometimes the elements look out of place but that can be fixed by editing the hud. First clip: The jar being misplaced is not your fault, but I think I can send a fix here. Second clip: The demoman should hit his 2 pipes instead of trying to kill the medic with rollers. 4th clip: I think you recorded the clips with normal width. Use half-width. 5th clip: The spy clips are now similar to the mad milk video. That's good, however, don't separate the spy clips. Record the clip in one shot. 6th clip: wait a bit before extinguishing yourself and the heavy. 7th clip: again, don't hide the hud. Final clip: It still shows the match hud bar. You can fix this by reloading the hud using hud_reloadscheme. · [[User:Ashe|<font color="DB9C1F">Ashe</font>]] ([[User talk:Ashe|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) 22:30, 24 January 2024 (UTC)
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== {{Demo Header|Chargin' Targe}}, {{Demo Header|Tide Turner}}, and {{Demo Header|Splendid Screen}} ==
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Should these be redone to show that they remove debuffs such as Jarate, bleeding, afterburn, etc.? If so, which effects should I specifically show?<br>[[User:GrampaSwood|GrampaSwood]] ([[User talk:GrampaSwood|talk]]) 08:31, 25 June 2020 (UTC)
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:{{c|yes}}, the effects that should show are just some of them, not all
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:* Soaking, Jarate is preferable as it make the screen yellow tint.
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:* Fire, simple burn from Flamethrower.
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:* Bleeding, from Southern Hospitality?
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:* Mark for death, from Fan O'War
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:I think those are all. [[File:User Hinaomi Hinaomi-sig.png|link=User:Hinaomi]] [[User:Hinaomi|Rikka Takanashi]] <small>([[User talk:Hinaomi|talk]]) • ([[Special:Contributions/Hinaomi|contributions]])</small> 12:47, 25 June 2020 (UTC)
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::Yes, that would all be good. — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 05:44, 8 July 2020 (UTC)
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== {{Demo Header|Quick-Fix}} ==
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Old reservation (29 April 2021)
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{{c|What I've done in addition to the existing one (the timestamp in the parentheses are the old/new ones):}}
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# ([https://youtu.be/mWbjD7LjtVg?t=74 1:14]/[https://youtu.be/hj5FuFVFV2U?t=84 1:24]) On the first scene demonstrating the Quick-Fix's basic functions, I did the same as the old one, plus damaging myself and the patient Heavy while being Ubered, demonstrating that the Quick-Fix's Uber doesn't reduce incoming damage. I also damaged myself (the Medic) twice instead of once.
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# ([https://youtu.be/mWbjD7LjtVg?t=129 2:09]/[https://youtu.be/hj5FuFVFV2U?t=159 2:39]) When demonstrating the Quick-Fix's heal rate in comparison to the stock [[Medi Gun]], while mostly the same, I used a recently-injured Heavy, so that the heal rate (for each medigun) is at the slowest. I used an offscreen pistol Engineer (hence why the starting HP is 14), teleport commands, and <code>r_cleardecals</code>, so it should look neat.
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# ([https://youtu.be/mWbjD7LjtVg?t=137 2:17]/[https://youtu.be/hj5FuFVFV2U?t=181 3:01]) I demonstrated the knockback immunity from Quick-Fix's Uber the same way, but now there's health and Ubercharge HUD.
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# ([https://youtu.be/mWbjD7LjtVg?t=176 2:56]/[https://youtu.be/hj5FuFVFV2U?t=227 3:47]) I did the "mirror blast jumping" part outdoors, although it might not look neat. I'm sorry.
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# ([https://youtu.be/mWbjD7LjtVg?t=206 3:26]/[https://youtu.be/hj5FuFVFV2U?t=257 4:17]) I demonstrated crit healing (after the recipient doesn't take damage for 10-15 seconds) with the Quick-Fix's Uber in addition to the non-Uber Quick-Fix. Yes, the 3x healing rate Uber stacks with the crit heal.
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# ([https://youtu.be/mWbjD7LjtVg?t=233 3:53]/[https://youtu.be/hj5FuFVFV2U?t=416 6:56]) I redid the "Uber build rate comparison on different HP threshold" because the old one didn't have the Quick-Fix as the second healing beam, hence it doesn't explain if the second healing beam alone would slow down the Quick-Fix's Uber build rate (the Quick-Fix has 125% maximum overheal, lower than the usual Uber build rate penalty at 142.5% overheal).
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# ([https://youtu.be/mWbjD7LjtVg?t=266 4:26]/[https://youtu.be/hj5FuFVFV2U?t=306 5:06]) I demonstrated the Quick-Fix maximum overheal limit and decay rate on Scout vs. Heavy as well as comparing it to the stock [[Medi Gun]]'s overheal in addition to the "maintain overheal above 125%" that the old video demonstrated. For the last part, I only used one Heavy, as the aforementioned added demonstrations make up for that, and I maintained the overheal above and below 142.5% overheal (Uber build rate comparison) as well as healing the Heavy when the overheal goes down below 125%.
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# ([https://youtu.be/mWbjD7LjtVg?t=286 4:46]/[https://youtu.be/hj5FuFVFV2U?t=512 8:32]) For the "healing disguised Spy" part, I have two enemy bots (Heavy and Demoman) so that the Spy doesn't disguise as a Demoman named "Medic". Both bots are injured, so my disguise will be healed, too.
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{{c|The new ones (the timestamps refer to the new demonstration):}}
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# ([https://youtu.be/hj5FuFVFV2U?t=459 7:39]) Demonstrating stock [[Medi Gun]]'s Uber vs. Quick-Fix's Uber (the latter doesn't reduce incoming damage, but prevents incoming knockback unlike the former) and the fact that they have same duration (barring the stock's lingering effect). Also has Quick-Fix's Uber without incoming rockets to demonstrate that the duration is the same.
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# ([https://youtu.be/hj5FuFVFV2U?t=478 7:58]) Ubering multiple teammates at the same time drain faster than Ubering a single teammate alone. Also, only the aforementioned Ubering multiple teammates drains Uber faster; Ubering an injured teammate drains at the same rate as Ubering a healthy teammate (fully overhealed) and not healing someone when Ubered.
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:I did the "Uber draining when dropped" part, but both mediguns show "Dropped by Exaskliri." Is it allowed? I gave the bot the Quick-Fix via bot_mirror command. https://youtu.be/0ZlwvHZrjdU [[User:Exaskliri|Exaskliri]] ([[User talk:Exaskliri|talk]]) 04:27, 30 April 2021 (UTC)
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::Nothing you can do about that, that's just how it shows. Shouldn't be too noticeable and there's no point in going through the trouble of setting up a server and getting a buddy to join only so it doesn't show. Though the confusion on where the quick-fix actually is should be redone so it doesn't look like you are looking for it.<br>[[User:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">GrampaSwood</font>]] ([[User talk:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) 10:37, 30 April 2021 (UTC)
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:# I just did the "mirroring the explosive jump" part, though I don't think it looks neat. Is it OK? https://youtu.be/NQo1iTxQSEA [[User:Exaskliri|Exaskliri]] ([[User talk:Exaskliri|talk]]) 03:31, 3 May 2021 (UTC)
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:# Just finished the whole demonstration. I just need to attach the segments. [[User:Exaskliri|Exaskliri]] ([[User talk:Exaskliri|talk]]) 15:15, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
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:# Just finished <s>uploading</s> re-uploading the new Quick-Fix demonstration video to YouTube and MediaFire.
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::# https://youtu.be/hj5FuFVFV2U
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::# https://www.mediafire.com/file/kx7kbaik5vwpwyj/Quick-Fix_Weapon_Demonstration_Video.mp4/file
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:::[[User:Exaskliri|Exaskliri]] ([[User talk:Exaskliri|talk]]) 08:08, 6 May 2021 (UTC)
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:::: I don't see any problems, except for the the explosive jumps scenes, that looks a bit laggy, and in general the quality, that seems to be more like a rendering issue, though shouldn't be a problem · [[User:Ashe|Ashe]] ([[User talk:Ashe|talk]]) 04:40, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
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: I'm fixing the video right now (quieting projector sound, incorrect fade out time, etc.). Gotta reupload soon. [[User:Exaskliri|Exaskliri]] ([[User talk:Exaskliri|talk]]) 10:39, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
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: Just uploaded the fixed version of the [[Quick-Fix]] demonstration video. [[User:Exaskliri|Exaskliri]] ([[User talk:Exaskliri|talk]]) 13:01, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
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::This is spectacular work, thanks a lot! Just two comments, none of which should require a lot of work to fix hopefully:
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* Video quality also seems to have the same artifacts as the Winger demonstration. Please increase the bitrate. Unlike the Winger demonstration, I understand that a demonstration this long could take forever and use a lot of bandwidth to upload twice (to YouTube and to MediaFire), so if the video quality is approved for the Winger demonstration is good enough and you've used the same settings for re-rendering this demonstration, feel free to just upload the higher-quality Quick Fix demonstration to MediaFire only, in order to avoid having to upload the huge file twice.
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* There is an audio/video glitch at 9:56 - 9:57.
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— [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 05:46, 10 May 2021 (UTC)
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:::You finally responded! Thank you so much. The video/audio glitch is from the .dem recording, so I had to conduct another play, especially since it involves another player. [[User:Exaskliri|Exaskliri]] ([[User talk:Exaskliri|talk]]) 15:12, 10 May 2021 (UTC)
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::::Alright. Can you upload the new version? — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 04:40, 1 June 2021 (UTC)
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== {{Demo Header|Blutsauger}} ==
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{{reservation|[[User:Mediarch|<font color="ec5c69">'''Mediarch'''</font>]] [[File:User Mediarch PFP.png|25px]][[User:Mediarch|<font color="#ff66cc"> ♥ </font>]][[User talk:Mediarch|<font color="ec5c69">'''Talk'''</font>]][[User:Mediarch|<font color="#ff66cc"> ♥ </font>]][[Special:Contributions/Mediarch|<font color="ec5c69">'''My Edits'''</font>]] 10:42, 12 May 2024 (UTC)}}
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Here's the [https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Yt75ezXKGgKa8q3Ca8p0mjqTtmoGF18i/view?usp=drive_link Blutsauger demonstration] ready for feedback. Shows the updated description and I also included a clip to show that you don't gain health from buildings. [[User:Mediarch|<font color="ec5c69">'''Mediarch'''</font>]] [[File:User Mediarch PFP.png|25px]][[User:Mediarch|<font color="#ff66cc"> ♥ </font>]][[User talk:Mediarch|<font color="ec5c69">'''Talk'''</font>]][[User:Mediarch|<font color="#ff66cc"> ♥ </font>]][[Special:Contributions/Mediarch|<font color="ec5c69">'''My Edits'''</font>]] 19:28, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
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: Update on this. Video seems to require multiple people. Wasn't able to find anyone else to help me. If you want to help me record this please ping me. [[User:Naleksuh|Naleksuh]] ([[User talk:Naleksuh|talk]]) 19:53, 21 December 2021 (UTC)
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== {{Demo Header|Eyelander}}, {{Demo Header|Nessie's Nine Iron}}, {{Demo Header|Horseless Headless Horsemann's Headtaker}}, and {{Demo Header|Half-Zatoichi}} ==
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{{c|Show slower deploy and holster comparision.}}
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The other swords shows the comparision except for the above ones. [[User:ThunderRunner|ThunderRunner]] ([[User talk:ThunderRunner|talk]]) 08:54, 18 December 2021 (UTC)
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I think I am capable of doing demonstrations again.  As someone on the wiki that doesn't get credited for shit, I think these might upper my reputation.<br>----[[File:User Slimyboi500 Logo.png|100px|link=User:Slimyboi500]] [[File:User Slimyboi500 Profile.jpg|25px|link=User:Slimyboi500]] [[User talk:Slimyboi500|Talk]] [[File:Speech voice.png|25px|link=User talk:Slimyboi500]] [[Special:Contributions/Slimyboi500|Contribs]] [[File:Wrench_IMG.png|25px|link=Special:Contributions/Slimyboi500]] [https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561199515551163/ Steam]  [[File:Steam tray.png|25px|link=https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561199515551163/]] 04:32, 19 April 2024 (UTC)
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:What edits/contributions have you made that you did not get credited for?<br>[[File:BLU Wiki Cap.png|20px|link=List of Wiki Cap owners]] {{!}} [[Help:Group rights|<span style="color:green;font-family:TF2 Build;">s</span>]] {{!}} [[User:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">GrampaSwood</font>]] [[File:PraisetheSun.png|20px|alt=Praise the Sun!]] ([[User talk:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) ([[Special:Contributions/GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">contribs</font>]]) 05:13, 19 April 2024 (UTC)
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::Oh, I dunno, [https://wiki.teamfortress.com/w/index.php?title=Soldier_Robot&diff=3568960&oldid=3552448 this], [https://wiki.teamfortress.com/w/index.php?title=Template:Item_set_infobox&diff=3618268&oldid=3565663 this], and [https://wiki.teamfortress.com/w/index.php?title=Ghost&diff=3649086&oldid=3401209 especially] [https://wiki.teamfortress.com/w/index.php?title=Saw_blade&diff=3649104&oldid=3314666 these].
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:::On all of these edits you are credited just fine. How did you expect to be credited?<br>[[File:BLU Wiki Cap.png|20px|link=List of Wiki Cap owners]] {{!}} [[Help:Group rights|<span style="color:green;font-family:TF2 Build;">s</span>]] {{!}} [[User:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">GrampaSwood</font>]] [[File:PraisetheSun.png|20px|alt=Praise the Sun!]] ([[User talk:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) ([[Special:Contributions/GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">contribs</font>]]) 16:00, 19 April 2024 (UTC)
  
== [[File:Item_icon_Invisible_Rogue.png|16px|link=The Invisible Rogue]] [[The Invisible Rogue]] ==
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::::Wikicheivments?  I never got another one since [[User talk:Slimyboi500/Arch1#Wikichievement unlocked|November]].  [[User:Mediarch|Mediarch]] is [[User talk:Mediarch#Wikichievement unlocked.21|getting]] [[User talk:Mediarch#Wikichievement Unlocked.21 2|all]] [[User talk:Mediarch#Wikichievement Unlocked.21 3|the]] [[User talk:Mediarch#Wikichievement unlocked.21 4|fame]] [[User talk:Mediarch#C .3E 7|and glory]].  I just don't wanna think I'm the odd one out.
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Is this considered a set effect or just item effects? Regardless, should this go in to illustrate what happens when wearing these items? A lot of people haven't even noticed this effect yet. [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2bYg0P3FNes Set Demonstration: The Invisible Rogue]  Also, video is unlisted. --[[User:Squinte|Squinte]] 15:45, 2 November 2011 (PDT)
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::::: Slimy, you don't need Wikichievements on a wiki. The point of it is to inform, not be popular. Also, Mediarch has been constantly doing this sort of thing, pretty consistently too. Just look at the recent changes. Besides, your contributions don't warrant most of the stuff Medi has, n' you've already got a decent amount of Wikichieves. — [[User:Payn|payn.]] [[File:Beggar's Bazooka.png|30px|link=User:Payn]] [[User talk:Payn|Talk]] [[File:Speech voice.png|25px|link=User talk:Payn]] [[Special:Contributions/Payn|Contribs]] [[File:Market Gardener.png|30px|link=Special:Contributions/Payn]] 00:02, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
:This applies to items when you don't have the full set, so it's not a set effect. So no, no need to put it there — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 23:15, 2 November 2011 (PDT)
 
::I am going to do some more scientific research on this tomorrow. I haven't ruled out the possibilities that these items do something to your cloak through the eyes of the other team. --[[User:Squinte|Squinte]] 14:44, 4 November 2011 (PDT)
 
:::I hate to disappoint you, but this is a glitch that happens to all the hats and miscs (and weapons), and not only to the pieces of this set. Here's the proof: [http://rghost.net/28702351/image.png one] and [http://rghost.net/28702701/image.png two]. — [[User:Zhnigo|Zhnigo]] 11:05, 5 November 2011 (PDT)
 
  
== {{icon item|Apoco-Fists|16px}} [[Apoco-Fists]] ==
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== {{Demo Header|Kritzkrieg}} ==
{{c|wait|Reserved by Sokair}}
 
I'm thinking that I / we show the melee damage, killing the bots, same starting objective. Then, being Kritz'd by addcond 11, kill the bots again, then mini crit'd, killing the bots. [[User:Sokair|Sokair]] 16:58, 11 November 2011 (PST)
 
: Just normally kill the Pyro and Soldier, then before hurting the medic, use that "addcond 11" command (bind it to a key), then attack him with crits. However, it's best to wait for it to get patched; it still has the sounds and kill taunt of the Fists. --[[User:Akuago220|Akuago220, The Jungle Expeditioner]] 22:10, 12 November 2011 (PST)
 
: Well, seeing as the Apoco-Fists seem to no longer be craftable, [http://youtu.be/Vt8Qf_2imbY I was lucky enough to craft one before the patch & decided to do a demonstration with it.] If good, I'll post the upload link here. --[[User:Akuago220|Akuago220, The Jungle Expeditioner]] 18:35, 21 November 2011 (PST)
 
::The crit thingy should be shown in a separate clip that starts with you having crits from the start, to make it clear that this is artificial and not an effect of the weapon suddenly giving you crits in the middle of action.
 
::Also, this is a relatively short demo, so it is a good occasion to work on that framerate :3 It is getting problematic... :( As you can see in [http://www.youtube.com/all_comments?v=MIUjoPTYIm0 the comments of the latest Cow Mangler video], peopel are starting to notice it ("The framerate on this pains me"). I suggest you either try to:
 
* Trim as much as possible from what is running on your system while recording
 
* Dedicate a hard drive to record or at least defragment the hard drive you record on in order to clear up some continuous writing space so that Fraps can write quickly
 
* Turn to another recording solution, especially [[Help:Recording demos|Source Recorder]] like [[User:Zhingo]] is doing, since that can give you effectively unlimited framerate regardless of how good your computer is. And people do notice it, as seen in the [http://www.youtube.com/all_comments?v=kMmSgD276P4 comments of the Bootlegger video] ("Dayum that's some good quality, son.").
 
— [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 21:05, 21 November 2011 (PST)
 
  
== {{icon item|Bombinomicon|16px}} [[Bombinomicon]] ==
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{{c|Does not show that Kritz Über does not prevent capping or carrying the Intelligence.}}
Actually I'm kinda surprised this ended up on our to-do list. To the point: do we need to demonstrate it on all nine classes? Should every class be just shot to death or can I get creative? — [[User:Zhnigo|Zhnigo]] 19:48, 12 November 2011 (PST)
 
:Kinda falls under the same scope as the [[Pip-Boy]] demonstration... Not sure it needs to be demonstrated, but if someone's up for it, then why not. But yes, it would need to be all 9 classes. It's not a formal weapon demonstration, so you can get creative and stuff. — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 00:26, 13 November 2011 (PST)
 
::Why do we need to do one for all 9 classes? It's not unique to each, right? My thoughts are to:
 
::- Show the backpack description
 
::- Show death by hitscan. (Sniper headshot)
 
::- Show death by projectile. (Soldier or Demoman)
 
::- Show death which is supposed to trigger unique death. (CM2K, Eternal Reward, etc.)[[User:Mariofan38|Mariofan38]] 11:34, 19 November 2011 (PST)
 
:::It doesn't strictly need to be shown for all classes, but it would be better if it was. It's a visual effect only, so the demonstration has no education value; only aesthetic value. So I'd favor showing the effect thoroughly instead of "just what is needed" (which is a desirable thing for weapon demonstrations). Still, it's open to both possibilities (all classes or a few classes only) — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 17:39, 20 November 2011 (PST)
 
  
== {{icon item|Bootlegger|16px}} [[Bootlegger]] ==
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{{c|Does not show health of patients, overheal is not shown properly.}}
Mellotaku, do you mind if I take this demo for myself? You've got three other reserves and I've already got the .dem files from Ali-Baba's Booties. ^^ — [[User:Zhnigo|Zhnigo]] 13:11, 3 November 2011 (PDT)
 
:Sure, go ahead, I've been distracted recently with the Wanga Prick & the Unarmed Combat.--[[User:Mellotaku|Mellotaku, The Sorcerous Shapeshifter]] 13:14, 3 November 2011 (PDT)
 
::Thanks! This vid will be especially flashy with srcdemo, with all the dashing. — [[User:Zhnigo|Zhnigo]] 13:54, 3 November 2011 (PDT)
 
:::This took longer than expected because I first rendered it in the wrong resolution by accident. Anyway: [http://youtu.be/eXmd-1L7kWs YT]/[http://www.mediafire.com/?xw5aluxtl7hn0wk MF]. — [[User:Zhnigo|Zhnigo]] 08:10, 7 November 2011 (PST)
 
::::Can you use the same damage comparison as Ali Baba's Wee Booties? — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 18:44, 7 November 2011 (PST)
 
:::::Sure, but it's going to take a while. :) — [[User:Zhnigo|Zhnigo]] 06:46, 8 November 2011 (PST)
 
::::::Here you go: [http://youtu.be/3QWOpT18NyE YT]/[http://www.mediafire.com/?1ami467oxh3j6op MF]. — [[User:Zhnigo|Zhnigo]] 19:38, 12 November 2011 (PST)
 
:::::::Is good, please upload~ — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 00:26, 13 November 2011 (PST)
 
::::::::B-but I already did, under "MF". — [[User:Zhnigo|Zhnigo]] 01:53, 13 November 2011 (PST)
 
:::::::::herp derp etc — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 14:11, 13 November 2011 (PST)
 
  
== [[File:Item_icon_Brundle_Bundle.png|16px|link=The Brundle Bundle]] [[The Brundle Bundle]] ==
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I think I'll take this one! [[User:Greenfox|Greenfox]] ([[User talk:Greenfox|talk]]) 20:51, 22 October 2022 (UTC)
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Since all this does is pitch shift his voice, I think I should just taunt with every weapon I can and audioduck so that people can hear his high-pitched voice. --[[User:Akuago220|Akuago220, The Jungle Expeditioner]] 09:44, 29 October 2011 (PDT)
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:Please sign your comments using <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>.<br>[[User:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">GrampaSwood</font>]] ([[User talk:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) 20:56, 22 October 2022 (UTC)
:Could perhaps be fine as a split-screen (with the taunts at different times, not synchronized, obviously) — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 12:49, 29 October 2011 (PDT)
 
::Alright, [http://youtu.be/c3egbOMrP_A here's my take on the bundle.] BTW, that's just how the audio for the Engineer goes with his voice at a very high-pitched frequency, not because of a rendering problem. [http://www.mediafire.com/?u3cycwy34ojn3vz Download it here.] --[[User:Akuago220|Akuago220, The Jungle Expeditioner]] 19:39, 30 October 2011 (PDT)
 
:::Yes, I know. You should probably also show some popular voice commands (medic, need a dispenser here, gotta move that gear up, etc). I realize it's a bit hard because you have to get exactly the same line; feel free to use a modified talker script, modified sound files to force one line to always come out, or just multiple clips — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 21:46, 30 October 2011 (PDT)
 
:::If that's the case, then can you give me a list of lines and responses you want me to do (just don't go overboard; we just need enough to get the point across). --[[User:Akuago220|Akuago220, The Jungle Expeditioner]] 06:47, 31 October 2011 (PDT)
 
::::Those 3 should be enough — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 08:39, 31 October 2011 (PDT)
 
:::Okay, here's the demo again, [http://youtu.be/kfBHJddT83w but with the extra lines you wanted me to put in.] [http://www.mediafire.com/?7t30whil7mrn9a7 Download here.] --[[User:Akuago220|Akuago220, The Jungle Expeditioner]] 06:54, 1 November 2011 (PDT)
 
::::Is good, but can you invert the two clips? (normal on left, set on right). No need to upload to youtube to check, upload directly :3 — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 13:33, 1 November 2011 (PDT)
 
  
== {{icon item|Cloak and Dagger|16px}} [[Cloak and Dagger]] ==
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sorry! [[User:Greenfox|Greenfox]] ([[User talk:Greenfox|talk]]) 06:27, 23 October 2022 (UTC)
I've started out with a simplistic version of this. I show it in the loadout, then turn it on in First person. After waiting a few seconds to demonstrate the cloak doesn't drain when standing still, I walk around in a circle to show that it drains by moving. I walk over an ammopack both cloaked and uncloaked to demonstrate that picking up ammo doesn't recharge it. I walk around uncloaked a bit to show it recharges when moving uncloaked. Finally, I walk into an enemy medic to show that it will show an outline if you walk into an enemy. How's that? <small>— ''The preceding unsigned comment was added by'' '''[[User:Dr. Huxley|Dr. Huxley]]''' ([[User talk:Dr. Huxley|talk]]) • ([[Special:Contributions/Dr. Huxley|contribs]]) </small>
 
:Take a look at the [[Invisibility Watch]] demo for things to show too. You need to show things like the Dispenser not recharging it, that it hides teleporter trails, etc. Also, make sure to demonstrate:
 
* Drain speed is proportional to walking speed (move while crouching, move while jumping, etc)
 
* When drained, the cloak does NOT auto-uncloak like the other watches, but stays in the "outline" mode (walk around cloaked until out of it, then keep running)
 
* Has less cloak than the regular invisibility watch (Many people don't know this one for some reason); do a split-screen walking from one end of the room to the other (and back, if needed), with one side C&D and the other using the IW. Show that you can run farther in one charge with the IW, but you can still keep walking in "outline" mode with the C&D.
 
— [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 04:31, 16 March 2011 (UTC)
 
:: Righto, I'll redo that and keep that in mind. I don't see the need to almost completely redo the original Invis. Watch video though, but if that's what you mean, I'll do it. [[User:Dr. Huxley|Dr. Huxley]] 04:55, 16 March 2011 (UTC)
 
:::Before you do that, please post the video you made so far, just to check if it meets the technical requirements. This is just a check, because if it doesn't, then both your and my time will go to waste D: — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 05:07, 16 March 2011 (UTC)
 
I think it should have triple splitscreen showing the draining amount when youre falling/jumping, running and crouch-walking. --[[User:SandeProElite|SandeProElite]] 18:57, 3 May 2011 (UTC)
 
  
Here's my first draft at this video. I thought it might be good to 'throw everything in' so to speak, to make it easier to see which parts to cut; it's intentionally long. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sDWesVeLOYY [[User:I-ghost|i-ghost]] 23:03, 18 March 2011 (UTC)
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== Trading demonstration ==
:The main aspect of the C&D is movement-dependent cloak drain/regen, and I feel that this video doesn't show that obviously enough. It is demonstrated at the beginning but quickly and without transition between "states". Take your time, wait at least 1 seconds before (and after, if it applies) changing direction/crouching/standing up, etc. Also, it needs to demonstrate that it regenerates while uncloaked+moving.
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:As for what should be cut, I think the teleporter destruction part can be left out, as well as the cloak+disguise demo from 1:20 to 1:50. Also a pretty important thing is to show the enemy's vision of the cloak; for the regular IW, it was fine to use the engineer's voice commands to indicate vision/not-vision, but here it is not because the spy can be either invisible, visible, or semi-visible, but what is shown here is from a BLU perspective, so we see the spy all the time. So what I'd suggest to do is to respawn the Engineer mid-demo (while you're not looking in his direction) and record things from his POV; then use that as the central video during the last part instead of a third person view. Yes, this requires him to be a human player or to use a SourceTV demo, but I believe it's worth it :3 Also, since it's a long demo, feel free to do it in multiple parts joined together with fades, too. It's frustrating it is when you do everything right except one small little thing at the end of the take... Doing it in multiple parts helps — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 00:54, 19 March 2011 (UTC)
 
:I believe that two things are missing from your video.
 
::The C&D decloaks slower than the normal invis watch, and it also makes more noise. [[User:Smurfton|Smurfton]] 18:52, 12 October 2011 (PDT)
 
  
== [[File:Red_Mini_Sentry.png|16px]] [[Combat Mini-Sentry Gun]] ==
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We can make the same Medic and Heavy conversation joke.
splitscreen between 2 of any class, demonstrate how the minisentry builds faster, then have soldiers fire a few rockets at both sentries to demonstrate how the minisentry has less health. {{subst:EpicCombine}}
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:Alright, it seems that Steam won't allow me to change the Trading window language for some reason, so i'm leaving this to a English-speaker user · [[User:Ashe|Ashe]] ([[User talk:Ashe|talk]]) 04:55, 27 February 2022 (UTC)
:Also needs to demonstrate that it builds with full health, that it can't be upgraded, and that you can't repair it — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 19:13, 13 February 2011 (UTC)
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:I don't think we should redo this just for this reason; there may be more UI changes to that process in the future, and it seems unnecessary. — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 00:33, 24 April 2022 (UTC)
  
hmmm... lemme try and formulate a plan here...
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== {{Demo Header|Ullapool Caber}} ==
*Start with splitscreen, one normal sentry and one mini-sentry still in their toolboxes.
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{{Reservation|[[User:Cheddar|<font color="#193940">'''Cheddar'''</font>]] • [[User talk:Cheddar|<font color="#193940">'''Talk'''</font>]] 11:04, 20 April 2024 (UTC)}}
*synchronize videos to show how the mini-sentry builds faster
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*{{c|Does not demonstrate activation on cloaked enemy Spies}}
*start hitting both sentries with wrench (first sentry upgrades to lvl 2, minisentry does nothing)
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*{{c|Does not demonstrate activation on disguised enemy Spies}}
*have soldier fire at both sentries from a distance; hit both sentries with wrench again(to demonstrate that the minisentry can't repair health)
 
*just to show that it isn't useless, switch scene to a battle vid with the sentry in action with a splitscreen between normal sentry and minisentry; show scout shooting at sentry while it slowly builds and destroying it, while the minisentry builds fast enough that it can do some significant damage.
 
*end movie
 
  
how about that? leave a tip when ya got the time. [[User:EpicCombine|EpicCombine]] 01:53, 18 February 2011 (UTC)
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This video does not need a desperate rework, but it is worth adding some extra stuff here and there. Specifically the cloak and disguise interactions.
  
:My suggestion: horizontal splitscreen as you said, then...
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'''Part 1: The Main Gang (Pyro, Soldier, Medic)'''
:*Deploy sentries and leave them build by themselves to show building speed differences.
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#Attack the Pyro with a full caber. Watch the explosion and Demoman saying "Kablooey!" or similar.
:*Spawn an enemy bot (Pyro?) and let the sentries kill him to show the firing rate/damage differences.
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#After landing, kill the Pyro with the now empty caber.
:*Spawn an enemy Scout bot ouside sentry range and let him destroy the sentries with the pistol. Mini-SG should go down first.
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#Kill the Soldier with consecutive hits of the empty caber.
:*Reset the screen.
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#Kill the Medic with consecutive hits of the empty caber.
:*With an enemy Soldier bot already present, deploy the sentries. When they're still building have the Soldier shoot a rocket. Hopefully the SG will be destroyed, while the Mini-SG survives.
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#Taunt
:*Reset the screen again.
 
:*Deploy sentries and once both fully operational, have a enemy disguised Spy sap them. Wait a little before whacking off the Sapper. After a bit start repair them both. Mini-SG will not be repaired, SG will be. Keep hitting to upgrade the stock SG, while the Mini-SG won't do anything and be left damaged.
 
:What do you think?--[[User:Kid Of The Century|Kid Of The Century]] 18:03, 18 February 2011 (UTC)
 
:All good, but remember that building demos should include all levels. On top of the mini/regular comparisons, there should also be (not at the same time, but probably before) comparisons between sentry levels. Firepower, rotation speed difference (this should also be shown on the minisentry, since it rotates faster), sapping time difference, (reflectable (this has to be shown, yes)) rockets on level 3. Should also include some range demonstration (walking in and out of a sentry's range, showing the range sphere when building) — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 18:49, 18 February 2011 (UTC)
 
  
== {{icon item|Dead Ringer|16px}} [[Dead Ringer]] ==
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'''Part 2: Blast Radius Tests + Caber Jumping'''
{{c|wait|Reserved by Spam90675}}
 
  
Hello, guys! Now I'm working on Dead Ringer demonstration, and I have some questions about it:
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Do the same as current video's Part 2 except friendly Scout is removed. And some more added too.
* what kind of the possibilities of [[Dead Ringer]] must be shown
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# Approach between an enemy Engineer and an enemy Sniper. '''[Note: Friendly Scout is moved to the next Act]'''
* there must be only 1'st person view or 1'st and 3'rd?
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# Look at both of them while standing still.
Well, thats all about what I want to ask you [[File:User-Gringo_Perm.jpg|40px|link=User:Gringo_perm]] [[User:Gringo perm|<span style="text-shadow:black 1px 2px 2px;font-size:13px; line-height:16px;font-family:TF2 Build, Verdana, Geneva, sans-serif;" class="qua_community">Gringo perm</span>]] 17:35, 12 February 2011 (UTC)
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# Look down at the ground and then swing the caber.
:Alright:
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# Crouch, look down, and then swing the caber. Watch the explosion affect the enemy players.
* First, that it doesn't make you invisible when you activate it
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# Look at the enemy players again.
* Can only be activated at full charge
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# Run to the Resupply room, look at the sign, and enter the room.
* Activates on hit
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# Touch the Resupply cabinet.
* Doesn't remove teleporter trails (I think...)
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# Repeat Step 4.
* Has "Super cloak" (doesn't show outline when bumping against enemies)
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# Run to the Resupply room and immediately go to the Resupply cabinet and out.
* Makes loud sound on uncloak
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# Approach a high location (in the current video, it is a bunch of crates)
* Can be recharged by ammo pack and dispensers while cloaked but extra cloak time is not "Super cloak"
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# Jump and strike the wall of the high location to get to the top of it.
* Disguising as an enemy makes you drop the spy corpse on trigger, while disguising as an ally makes you drop that class's corpse on death
 
* Can be self-triggered by fall-damage
 
* Can be used to extinguish fire
 
That's all I can think of~ And yes, there will probably have to be third-person views (and views from the enemy side, in order to show the corpse drop for example). This is a tough demo that I don't think can be pulled off using bots alone — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 18:55, 12 February 2011 (UTC)
 
  
I would also suggest that having really low HP (i.e. 1 or 2 HP) will not bail you out from heavy-hitting weapons, even with the Dead Ringer out. Maybe make an example of the Decloaking sound, noting that it's much mroe louder than the Invis Watch or Cloak & Dagger. [[User:Lancer anti-tank Rocket|Lancer anti-tank Rocket]] 11:00, 15 February 2011 (UTC)
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'''Part 3: Player Interactions'''
  
hey guys i made the dead ringer movie
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First part is a single enemy Spy.
if you find any mistakes pm me.
 
if it's good tell me and i'll upload it.
 
hope you'll like it :)
 
[http://www.megaupload.com/?d=XHN01BJI Link.]
 
—[[User:StrongTube1|StrongTube1]] 13:39, 10 March 2011 (UTC)
 
:First, please upload it to YouTube as unlisted like the submission guidelines say~
 
:Second, this video has quite a lot of problems, some technical and some content-wise. I'll only list the technical ones first so that you focus on these first, because no video can be accepted if they don't fit those:
 
* Video is letterboxed (has black bars on top and bottom)
 
* Video looks scaled up (as if it were recorded at a lower resolution and enlarged)
 
* Framerate is a bit sluggish sometimes, especially when a new model is loaded (getting killed, or taking out the dead ringer)
 
* There is "www.fraps.com" on top of all the video
 
* Knife crit animation not playing (though you shouldn't need to backstab anything in this video since it's demonstrating the watch, not the knife)
 
— [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 21:47, 10 March 2011 (UTC)
 
  
:Well, [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OpTkfjupHDE here's my take on the Dead Ringer.] [http://www.megaupload.com/?d=PTLR9OE9 Download here.] --[[User:Akuago220|Akuago220, The Jungle Expeditioner]] 07:10, 19 September 2011 (PDT)
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'''Part 3a: Cloaked Spy'''  
::Pretty damn good :3 But as you can guess, it ain't perfect yet~
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# Let the Spy cloak
* Framerate is low during the first few seconds. I'm guessing it's Fraps, it just starts recording stutter-y and then it gets better. Just wait a few seconds before starting your actual run-through
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# Approach cloaked Spy and attack with the full caber. If the facts are right, an explosion should trigger.
* I think that's a custom crosshair color... Seems a bit darker than the default one. I may be wrong though
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# Refresh the screen to the next scene...
* Turn on critical hits for this demo (tf_weapon_criticals 1) so that the backstab animation plays and the Knife viewmodel animation works (and cross your fingers that the bots aren't going to get crits during recording)
 
* Something like the clip at 1:39 should be part of the first clip, too. Maybe get someone to be the Soldier so that you can have his POV. It's important the the viewer knows what the Dead ringer looks like to both parties early on, with all three disguise possibilities (no disguise, enemy disguise, friendly disguise). So, summary of the first clip: Get a human to be the soldier and recording. Get him to shoot at you with the dead ringer active but no disguise. Stare at your corpse, then back at him, let cloak run out. Wait for cloak to recharge completely, disguise as RED, re-activate the dead ringer. Soldier shoots again, perhaps this time he can also shoot a second time like the current clip, to show that rockets are still blocked and that you take (reduced) damage. While you're invisible, also try to pick up your fallen disguise weapon to get a boost. Uncloak when cloak depletes. Then, wait for full recharge again, disguise as BLU, activate dead ringer. Soldier shoots again (and reloads), and this time try to uncloak when the cloak meter is not fully depleted (to show that you can). Then move on with the Pyro and the Medic, like the current clip does quite well.
 
* On every dead ringer activation, make sure to always take a moment to stare at your corpse, like you did at 1:12
 
* This is just a minor aesthetic remark, but at 1:17, it's preferable if you switch in one shot (use the number keys) instead of scrolling through weapons
 
* 2:27 is hilarious and perfect
 
* Leave the teleporters at level 1 so that they emit less light. They're kind of obnoxiously bright at they are, which I'm guessing the map is to blame here as well
 
* The same way the non-blink-ness of the cloak is demonstrated at 2:50, the blinkiness of the cloak should also be demonstrated when it's extended by dispensers or ammo packs. This could be merged with the last clip with the dispensers and teleporters. If it is merged, then might as well merge the non-blinkiness as well. You can do this in a single dead ringering, too: get shot at, poke him a bit to show it doesn't blink, let the cloak almost run out, run to the dispenser, get recharged a nice bit (at least 50%), then go back to the engineer and show that now it does blink.
 
* Audio glitch at 4:17 (dead ringer noise is doubled)
 
That should be all~ The structure is nice, usage of the new map is nice, content is there. Good luck :3 — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 22:51, 19 September 2011 (PDT)
 
  
I see. Well here are two things I need to refute:
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There are two players on the side, a friendly Scout and an enemy Spy.
  
* I've always had that crosshair color for all of my demonstrations, even the one for the Cow Mangler, yet you accepted that one just fine.
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'''Part 3b: Disguised Spy'''
* Getting my friend to send me a 300+ MB clip will deem too time-wasting on both of our parts. Maybe for the second clip, I can demonstrated all 3 different POV segments you suggested, with a Scout still to show the corpses in one piece rather than gibbed; the point of the first clip was just to show how the DR works, how it extinguishes fire, and what kind of ammo can replenish it.
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# Let the Spy disguise as a friendly Scout.
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# Approach friendly Scout and attack with the full caber. Nothing should happen.
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# Now go to the disguised Spy and repeat Step 3. The difference is that the explosion should trigger.
  
That is all. I'll get back to it later today. --[[User:Akuago220|Akuago220, The Jungle Expeditioner]] 07:56, 20 September 2011 (PDT)
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'''Part 4: Deployment and Holstering'''
:Well I'm probably wrong for the crosshair then~ You could have your friend send you a demo file instead of a recording, too. It'll be much smaller, and no loss of quality due to re-encoding it — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 20:44, 20 September 2011 (PDT)
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*Do the same set of actions as the current video, or in any appropriate method.
  
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<s>[[User:Qwertyxp2000|Qwertyxp2000]] ([[User talk:Qwertyxp2000|talk]]) 02:23, 22 June 2022 (UTC)</s> [[User:Qwertyxp2000|Qwertyxp2000]] ([[User talk:Qwertyxp2000|talk]]) 02:31, 22 June 2022 (UTC)
  
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:Good list, but agree that this isn't worth redoing if it's only for those extra interactions. — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 21:39, 31 July 2022 (UTC)
  
I made a Dead Ringer Demonstration myself. Here is the [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UbxT7wOnV64&feature=youtube_gdata link]. I realize that the training video music is not in the video, but I can fix that if somebody tells me how to put it in. It's a mystery to me how I'm supposed to get in to the file it's in. [[User:Spam90675|Spam90675]] 13:50, 29 October 2011 (PDT)
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:: [https://drive.google.com/file/d/1UYRHocDtVBJbtYHnGVX6UjG_olg-VjqU/view?usp=sharing Here] is the video, feedback needed!<br>[[User:Cheddar|<font color="#193940">'''Cheddar'''</font>]] [[User talk:Cheddar|<font color="#193940">'''Talk'''</font>]] 11:03, 4 May 2024 (UTC)
:The video is private, I cannot see it — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 14:02, 29 October 2011 (PDT)
 
  
Oops, here's a retry. [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UbxT7wOnV64 Link] [[User:Spam90675|Spam90675]] 14:13, 29 October 2011 (PDT)
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== [[File:RED Teleporter.png|16px|link=Teleporters]] [[Teleporters]] ==
:Still private ._.; Try accessing it after logging out — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 14:16, 29 October 2011 (PDT)
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{{c|Needs to show the updated metal cost.}}
  
One more try. [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UbxT7wOnV64 Link] [[User:Spam90675|Spam90675]] 14:19, 29 October 2011 (PDT)
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== {{Demo Header|Cleaner's Carbine}} ==
:Nice try, but quite lacking >:
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* Video is not HD. Must be at least 720p
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:{{c|Needs a firing speed comparison to stock, does not show CRIKEY! gain from damaging buildings and disguised Spies.}}
* Criticals are off. If you are going to backstab people, you need to turn them on after running weaponref.cfg, so that the backstab animation plays correctly
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:: I may need a bit of time to obtain a Cleaner's Carbine for this video. This will be solved once Scrap.TF is working again. [[User:Scorchshotgaming|Scorchshotgaming]] ([[User talk:Scorchshotgaming|talk]]) 06:45, 19 April 2024 (UTC)
* HudDamageAccount.res is not installed
 
* The Dead Ringer has no taunt, so don't taunt
 
* Don't do unnecessary movement (crouching/jumping/weapon switching) when there is no reason to do so
 
* Have the mouse cursor shown in the backpack screen
 
* I highly recommend following Akuago's video above. It shows a lot more information
 
Good luck :3 — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 14:34, 29 October 2011 (PDT)
 
  
Alright, I'll make sure to try and fix everything. What should I do between the time it takes for the Ringer to refill? And how woudl I put an Ammo box in the map? [[User:Spam90675|Spam90675]] 14:38, 29 October 2011 (PDT)
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:::[https://drive.google.com/file/d/1snBQbOnOMnNxuKgUzsNOQhNieC8H1t0H/view?usp=sharing Here's] the video, feedback needed! <br>[[User:Cheddar|<font color="#193940">'''Cheddar'''</font>]] [[User talk:Cheddar|<font color="#193940">'''Talk'''</font>]] 17:51, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
:Using the <code>ent_create</code> command. Read the [[Team Fortress Wiki:Weapon Demonstration|project page]], it has all the commands you need. But right now, it'd be better if you could just record a 10-seconds-ish clip of pretty much anything, just to make sure that you can record in HD and with the right graphics settings, so that all your work doesn't go to waste if you can't :3 After that, folow Akuago's video (taking into consideration all the points I wrote about it just above) and it should be good — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 14:54, 29 October 2011 (PDT)
 
  
I have two minor problems: The mouse cursor won't show up normally, so I need to know what to do to make it show up. There is nothing ont he page that describes how to have it appear or the fact that it has to be there. The other thing is that WeGame won't upload in any higher resolution unless I pay for the membership. I can upload it to Youtube in 720, so that isn't a problem. I just need to know if the resolution it's at right now is okay. [[User:Spam90675|Spam90675]] 15:51, 29 October 2011 (PDT)
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:::: What about the disguised spies? or did I miss it somewhere in the video? [[User:Mediarch|<font color="ec5c69">'''Mediarch'''</font>]] [[File:User Mediarch PFP.png|25px]][[User:Mediarch|<font color="#ff66cc"> </font>]][[User talk:Mediarch|<font color="ec5c69">'''Talk'''</font>]][[User:Mediarch|<font color="#ff66cc"> </font>]][[Special:Contributions/Mediarch|<font color="ec5c69">'''My Edits'''</font>]] 18:11, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
:The resolution you uploaded at is (something)x360. The resolution you must upload at (and record at, obviously) is any 16:9 resolution that has at least 720 vertical lines. I cannot know if the resolution you are recording at is okay, because all I can see is what youtube says.
 
:I don't know how to show the mouse cursor in WeGame, as no one really uses that because of the usually horrible quality it has... It's not written on the page that the cursor has to be there, but it does mention mouse movement, so that kind of implies it. I'll edit and make that more explicit — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 16:22, 29 October 2011 (PDT)
 
Thank you for informing me about all this, I am currently trying out everything to make the video better, and now the only problem I have is the Cursor, which is minor at best. I'll probably republish the video when I finish improving it. Also, if anybody has any information on how to get the cursor to show up in the meantime, it'd be great. [[User:Spam90675|Spam90675]] 16:27, 29 October 2011 (PDT)
 
::It's ok if you can't, it's not a huge deal — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 16:42, 29 October 2011 (PDT)
 
:Well, I finished a better version of the video, that covers the following in order:
 
*Can't be activated unless damage is done
 
*When Damage is done, cloak is created
 
*Corpse is created when cloak is triggered
 
*Can sustain massive damage while cloaked
 
*Cloak length
 
*When disguised as a Friendly, Corpse will be of the Class disguised as
 
*Cloak can be filled while being used
 
*When at low health, still possible to be killed
 
*Can sustain massive damage (again)
 
*Can not attack when out
 
The video is still being processed. Here is a link to the [http://www.mediafire.com/?nk8k3ld6p9u6i7f download]. I'll try and fix the cursor problem if and when I found out how, otherwise, I think I did pretty good, aside from the stall in-between disguising as a Teammate and being hit by flames. Also, I would like to Reserve making this video, so I don't have to worry about someone else making a better version if I have to fix mine. [[User:Spam90675|Spam90675]] 17:39, 29 October 2011 (PDT)
 
  
:Oh, look, the video finally finished uploading. [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VvpVupfkhpk Link]. I realize that it is still at 360p, but I am going to fix that as soon as possible. [[User:Spam90675|Spam90675]] 18:04, 29 October 2011 (PDT)
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::::: I forgot <br> [[User:Cheddar|<font color="#193940">'''Cheddar'''</font>]] [[User talk:Cheddar|<font color="#193940">'''Talk'''</font>]] 18:12, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
::This is better in terms of coverage, could be better in terms of rhythm (take it slow~ Look at other weapon demonstration to get an idea of how slow you should be while demonstrating); but right now I'd like you to focus on the video quality only. The reason is that since the final video should be HD, there is no need to make a big effort improving on the existing video until quality is up to par :3 So just make a random clip (~10 seconds) with the required quality before doing anything else — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 18:33, 29 October 2011 (PDT)
 
Well, I fixed the problem with Quality, earlier it wasn't working with me, but now the video is in 720p. [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jZfkf2kyXA4 Link]. All I need to do now in terms of major problems is figure out how to get the TF2 Instruction Mp3s and put them into the video. Is there possibly someone who has a link to download the first one? [[User:Spam90675|Spam90675]] 18:45, 29 October 2011 (PDT)
 
:This is not real 720p :( It looks very blurry compared to real 720p. Look at [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lylZ4y_dMA0&hd=1 another weapon demonstration] in 720p and compare to your video and you will notice that this one is much clearer. This can be caused by one or both of the following:
 
* Your rendering settings are very low in terms of quality or bitrate, causing the video to have the required resolution but sub-par quality
 
* Your footage is not 720p in the first place, but is being stretched up to 720p
 
— [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 19:57, 29 October 2011 (PDT)
 
::As I said before, WeGame requires you to pay for a membership to use the best Definition. Unless someone either has a way to get it to it's best resolution or lend me the money, that's as best as it's going to get. [[User:Spam90675|Spam90675]] 20:11, 29 October 2011 (PDT)
 
:::I thought that was for uploading only... Well, that's some poor marketing decision they made then. Guess you gotta go with something else~ — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 20:55, 29 October 2011 (PDT)
 
::::Well, if you watch the video in 720p, it's much less blurry. Otherwise, I'm not sure how to get it to work well. How do you get your Demo videos so polished? Do you use a certain capture device?
 
:::::Most people here use Fraps, as mentioned on the project page. Otherwise, you can use TF2's built-in Source Recorder. And yes, I was comparing both videos' 720p versions, of course — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 21:14, 29 October 2011 (PDT)
 
::::::Well then, I have two questions: 1. Do you actually need a Full version of Fraps that is paid for? If so, then you can only make videos if you can afford the Movie capture upgrades. The second question is: is it possible to explain that you can use the Source filmmaker and how to use it on the Project page? Meanwhile, seeing as nobody else has followed up on this, I might as well put the "Reserved by *me*" thingy up there. I don't plan on giving this up until I get the job done.
 
:::::::You do have to use the full version of Fraps, because the non-full one is limited to 30 seconds and puts a "www.fraps.com" label at the top of the video. You cannot use Source Filmmaker, as it is not included in TF2 anymore. You can use Source Recorder however; there's a full explanation [[Help:recording demos|here]] — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 21:25, 29 October 2011 (PDT)
 
  
== {{icon item|High Five!|16px}} [[High Five!]] ==
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:::::: [https://drive.google.com/file/d/1e88Z5orKHDRcgNKPimVsP5nL5CXdxTlO/view?usp=sharing Here] is a newer version! <br>[[User:Cheddar|<font color="#193940">'''Cheddar'''</font>]] [[User talk:Cheddar|<font color="#193940">'''Talk'''</font>]] 19:11, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
Possible list of stuff to show in the demonstration:
 
*Show yourself lifting your hand and staying there for some time, then release the action key.
 
*Have someone else prepare the High Five to show the HUD message.
 
**Run to that person and taunt to initiate the high five.
 
*Show respective Hi Five animations (could be done in two ways):
 
#Class X high-fives Class X (so it shows the 2 possible animations for each class).
 
#Class X high-fives Class Y (so only one of the animations for each class is shown, although it takes half less time).
 
*Show message when trying to high-five and facing an obstacle.
 
*Show message when trying to high-five and facing a gap.
 
{{n}} [[User:EpicEric|<span style="color:#5885A2;font-size:15px;font-family:'Trebuchet MS';text-shadow:#e3e3e3 1px 1px 0px;"><b>Epic Eric</b></span>]] <small> ([[User talk:EpicEric|T]] <nowiki>|</nowiki> [[Special:Contributions/EpicEric|C]])</small> 17:19, 24 October 2011 (PDT)
 
* Seems straightforward. I'm gonna collaborate with a Skype friend of mine (since he has the High-Five Taunt) to work on this demonstration tomorrow. I think I'll go for (Class X high-fives Class X) option just to show all the animations. --[[User:Akuago220|Akuago220, The Jungle Expeditioner]] 20:53, 24 October 2011 (PDT)
 
:There's a little hitch; I can't see the message to high-five someone when someone wants to get high-five'd, neither can my friend when I try to get him to high-five me.  --[[User:Akuago220|Akuago220, The Jungle Expeditioner]] 16:34, 25 October 2011 (PDT)
 
::D: — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 18:00, 26 October 2011 (PDT)
 
:::You'll have to reset the tutorial messages, I guess, like in L4D. But I'm not sure how. Maybe a console command? — [[User:Zhnigo|Zhnigo]] 16:19, 30 October 2011 (PDT)
 
:::Well so far there doesn't seem to be a command that I can find that'll allow me nor my friend to see the messages again. But if they were just for tutorial means, then maybe we shouldn't need them after all. --[[User:Akuago220|Akuago220, The Jungle Expeditioner]] 07:33, 4 November 2011 (PDT)
 
::::Did you try to reset status? I know it's bad way but did you try? [[User:Hinaomi|Hinaomi]] 07:43, 4 November 2011 (PDT)
 
:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yA63i5vOj7I — [[User:Armisael |'''Armisael''']] <small>([[User_talk:Armisael |T]] | [[Special:Contributions/Armisael |C]])</small> 20:11, 13 November 2011 (PST)
 
::Mind sharing the commands you used? :3 Other than that, scattergun slot is lit up at the very beginning — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 20:50, 13 November 2011 (PST)
 
:::http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-EHcyDy0Cw I have idle accounts. — [[User:Armisael |'''Armisael''']] <small>([[User_talk:Armisael |T]] | [[Special:Contributions/Armisael |C]])</small> 13:52, 14 November 2011 (PST)
 
::::Is good, please upload~ — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 17:19, 14 November 2011 (PST)
 
  
== [[File:RED_Level_3_Sentry_Gun.png|16px]] [[Sentry Gun]] ==
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== {{Demo Header|Maul}}, {{Demo Header|Homewrecker}} ==
These are just some ideas i have:
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{{c|Does not show damage against players vs stock}}
* There is a heavy (or any other class with fairly high health) and have the engineer build a sentry (without getting hit with the stock wrench to build faster) and show how long it takes to kill the target. As it is building the engineer aims to the target and the sentry so they are both in view. Have the sentry kill the target.
 
* Upgrade the sentry to level 2, spawn that same class (in a different corner this time, to show you can move the sentry to a different place) and have it kill the target. Do the same with a level 3 sentry also.
 
* Then show how someone ubered can not get hurt but can get slowed down and tossed back from the level 3 rockets.
 
* Then show a scout under the effect of [[Bonk! Atomic Punch]] will not get hurt.
 
* Then show how someone with jarate on them can get crit killed and change the sentry kill icon.
 
* Then show how the sentry can get controlled by the [[wrangler]].
 
  
Now for things that can fit in there somewhere:
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* Show how the sentry can build faster by hitting it with your wrench.
 
* Show how the level 3 rockets can get reflected by a pyros compression blast (may need to use the wrangler to empty it of bullets.)
 
* Have three different engineers holding a level 1 2 and 3 walk next to eachother to compare the speed of an engineer holding it. (Also while an engineer is holding a sentry have him get killed to show the icon of his death and the sentry gun he is holding.)
 
* Maybe if there is enough time left, show how long it takes to kill each class (maybe excluding the class we used up there) Scout-spy.
 
:This would take way too long and take into accounts too many items. Things like the Scout's Bonk and the jarate are best left to their own demo; not sure the jarate is worth demonstrating anyway. For every comparison, doing it sequentially would make the video way too long, so this really has to be a split-screen, even if it's a 3-way one (not sure how that'd look). See the [[#Combat Mini-Sentry Gun|Combat Mini-Sentry Gun section]] for the list of things that need to be demonstrated — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 04:07, 1 March 2011 (UTC)
 
  
Possible to get a quick scene where we note the different sounds they make depending on level? -- [[User:Pilk|Pilk]] <sub>([[User talk:Pilk|talk]])</sub> 03:30, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
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[https://drive.google.com/file/d/1RuotuJq4wrNwBO07H-bjgSrtHo1tyhkJ/view?usp=sharing Here's the Maul] [[User:Mediarch|'''Mediarch''']] [[File:User Mediarch PFP.png|25px]][[User:Mediarch|<font color="#ff66cc"> ♥ </font>]][[User talk:Mediarch|'''Talk''']][[User:Mediarch|<font color="#ff66cc"> </font>]][[Special:Contributions/Mediarch|'''My Edits''']] 00:19, 27 March 2024 (UTC)
:Well, that'd be "automatically there" by simply doing the comparison thing. — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 18:37, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
 
  
I'll do it, if nobody minds. Also, shouldn't sentry control go under the category of the wrangler weapon demonstration? [[User:Smurfton|Smurfton]] 18:47, 12 October 2011 (PDT)
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: [https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ihbl2VE57Y-w-wt6Cu28KSL7cOYtDbGJ/view?usp=sharing Here's Maul v2] [[User:Mediarch|'''Mediarch''']] [[File:User Mediarch PFP.png|25px]][[User:Mediarch|<font color="#ff66cc"> ♥ </font>]][[User talk:Mediarch|'''Talk''']][[User:Mediarch|<font color="#ff66cc"> </font>]][[Special:Contributions/Mediarch|'''My Edits''']] 20:20, 8 April 2024 (UTC)
:Yes it should~ Good luck if you want to attempt this demonstration, it is a very, very long one D: As it is your first video demonstration, too, I think you should either try something a bit easier and shorter, or at least do a 10-second test clip of the beginning of a demonstration for a simple weapon like the [[Scattergun]]. Just to test the video quality and if you've got it all set up right :3 — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 20:36, 12 October 2011 (PDT)
 
  
While it is my first weapon demonstration, I have recorded videos before, and they were fine. the only issue I'm having is that I can't seem to get TF2 to find the map. any help would be lovely :) [[User:Smurfton|Smurfton]] 17:20, 14 October 2011 (PDT)
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[https://drive.google.com/file/d/1YkPdQZhRUCRbBqNM13vzVrjDWE2oLJKL/view?usp=sharing Here's the Homewrecker] [[User:Mediarch|'''Mediarch''']] [[File:User Mediarch PFP.png|25px]][[User:Mediarch|<font color="#ff66cc"> ♥ </font>]][[User talk:Mediarch|'''Talk''']][[User:Mediarch|<font color="#ff66cc"> </font>]][[Special:Contributions/Mediarch|'''My Edits''']] 00:19, 27 March 2024 (UTC)
:The issue is not whether you have recorded videos or not; it's whether you and your machine can record them at the right settings (720p or higher, 16:9, 30fps, dx9, AA 2x or more) and that you have the proper modifications set in place (no custom stuff except HudDamageAccount.res). As for the map, it should work as long as you extract the 2 .bsp's into tf\maps (relaunch TF2 after that) — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 17:36, 14 October 2011 (PDT)
 
  
I figured it out. [[User:Smurfton|Smurfton]] 17:37, 14 October 2011 (PDT)
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:It seems like the combattext batching was still on, as the damage numbers get added up. You don't have to be named "Friendly Engineer" for the Dispenser clip, it can just be your own name.
Right now, my computer has [s]several[/s] a rediculous amount of raw, uncompressed videos of that quality on it, and as long as there aren't more than 5 people (which I will need for the bonk, jarate, buff banner (which affects sentries when the engy is buffed)) on the server, I should be fine...[[User:Smurfton|Smurfton]] 21:38, 14 October 2011 (PDT)
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:In the Homewrecker one specifically: Try not to rotate around a target too much when hitting them (this is mostly when hitting the Pyro at the start, where all 3 subsequent hits are from a different angle). Both look good otherwise.<br>[[File:BLU Wiki Cap.png|20px|link=List of Wiki Cap owners]] {{!}} [[Help:Group rights|<span style="color:green;font-family:TF2 Build;">s</span>]] {{!}} [[User:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">GrampaSwood</font>]] [[File:PraisetheSun.png|20px|alt=Praise the Sun!]] ([[User talk:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) ([[Special:Contributions/GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">contribs</font>]]) 20:40, 7 April 2024 (UTC)
:Well alright, if you're confident, then go ahead :3 — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 23:17, 14 October 2011 (PDT)
 
  
In case you are wondering how I am doing, here is the first part. I needed to cut the video at some parts during the carrying sentry speed comparison, and so I'm going to be doing that again. the first two scenes I'm happy with, though. I seriously have not edited this at all... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=agglKMgEbZU please, tell me your thoughts. [[User:Smurfton|Smurfton]]
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:: [https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Ae8jB8jsbp3Q2oy-BCWPdFtm5R6niPvh/view?usp=sharing Here's Homewrecka v2] [[User:Mediarch|'''Mediarch''']] [[File:User Mediarch PFP.png|25px]][[User:Mediarch|<font color="#ff66cc"> </font>]][[User talk:Mediarch|'''Talk''']][[User:Mediarch|<font color="#ff66cc"> </font>]][[Special:Contributions/Mediarch|'''My Edits''']] 20:20, 8 April 2024 (UTC)
:This... is dx8 :( Or at least the DirectX 8-style lighting shaders. This is why I asked for a sample before doing the whole thing >:
 
:Other than that:
 
* The shadow has a low resolution and hard filtering (especially visible at 3:00)
 
* Antialiasing seems to be off (I may be wrong though and it may be due to video encoding artifacts making the video blockier than it really is, but in that case, increase the bitrate you're encoding at)
 
* There is a "jump" in the video at 3:30~3:32
 
* That clip is there twice
 
* There is no transitions between clips (a 0.5 seconds crossfade would help)
 
* That clip is there twice too
 
Those are the technical problems with the video. There are some content and presentational problems as well, but I'll enumerate them when you can show a clip with the correct quality settings :3 That way not all of those clips go to waste :( Sorry... — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 23:29, 15 October 2011 (PDT)
 
I really thought that I had Anti-Aliasing on, but you were right, it was off. Darn. Also, when I demonstrate that players cannot walk through buildings, should I mention that bots can? [[User:Smurfton|Smurfton]] 16:10, 17 October 2011 (PDT)
 
:It is unnecessary to demonstrate such a thing (and hard to really demonstrate, too, as the viewer might just think you've voluntarily stopped moving forward). But as I said, please show a short clip with those issues fixed before continuing >: — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 17:05, 17 October 2011 (PDT)
 
::Sorry about not saying anything for a while. I've found my external keyboard, and I'll be using that to have a few more keys to bind... I'll do this properly next weekend, I hope. About collision with buildings, wouldn't that best be shown by standing on top of them? [[User:Smurfton|Smurfton]] 07:38, 24 October 2011 (PDT)
 
:::As I just said, it is unnecessary to demonstrate this — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 17:06, 24 October 2011 (PDT)
 
  
== {{icon item|Unarmed Combat|16px}} [[Unarmed Combat]] ==
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== {{Demo Header|Amputator}} ==
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{{c|Does not show damage against players vs stock}}
  
While he's working on his version, here's mine. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GiX8jQju-aE
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I recorded most of this but medic's health regen is completely random as far I can tell. I can't get the clips to line up so I can properly demonstrate the increased health regen so I'm removing my reservation for the time being. I might try again some other time to brute force it but it doesn't seem promising [[User:Mediarch|'''Mediarch''']] [[File:User Mediarch PFP.png|25px]][[User:Mediarch|<font color="#ff66cc"> </font>]][[User talk:Mediarch|'''Talk''']][[User:Mediarch|<font color="#ff66cc"> </font>]][[Special:Contributions/Mediarch|'''My Edits''']] 18:34, 28 March 2024 (UTC)
I used the older version of the map because the hdr one slowed down my fps. [[File:ModestScout.png|25px]] [[User:Zafir168|<b><i>Zafir168</i></b>]] 13:02, 8 November 2011 (PST)
 
:Is there no taunt? If so, please upload~ (Mellotaku, if you can still do a version on the hdr map and/or with better framerate, you can still do so if done before this is uploaded) — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]]
 
::Wind, I have no idea if I'll be able to finish it. Something really bad has happened here at home & I need to handle it. I'll try to do the demonstrations I have reserved when I can, but this really needs to be attended to first.--[[User:Mellotaku|Mellotaku, The Sorcerous Shapeshifter]] 15:19, 8 November 2011 (PST)
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pr_EN1FfLpE The item has no taunt. [[File:ModestScout.png|25px]] [[User:Zafir168|<b><i>Zafir168</i></b>]] 06:08, 9 November 2011 (PST)
 
:Well, the framerate in that video is not good, but it's pretty much the same as the previous video if I recall, so this version is better~ Please upload :3 — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 22:00, 9 November 2011 (PST)
 
http://www.mediafire.com/?xjsdahfctlakpfc [[File:ModestScout.png|25px]] [[User:Zafir168|<b><i>Zafir168</i></b>]] 05:03, 10 November 2011 (PST)
 
::May I ask, what did you use to record this demo? [[User:Spam90675|Spam90675]] 11:26, 11 November 2011 (PST)
 
The jiggle bones are not jiggling.  If you mess around with <code>cl_jiggle_bone_framerate_cutoff</code> you can force them to jiggle all day long.  [[Jiggle_bones#Notes]] --[[User:Org|Org]] 18:33, 18 November 2011 (PST)
 
:That's actually helpful. Mind if I add this to the console commands list on the main page? — [[User:Zhnigo|Zhnigo]] 22:47, 19 November 2011 (PST)
 
  
== {{icon item|Wanga Prick|16px}} [[Wanga Prick]] ==
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:Not having them be synced up is fine as long as it's clear that the Amputator goes faster.<br>[[File:BLU Wiki Cap.png|20px|link=List of Wiki Cap owners]] {{!}} [[Help:Group rights|<span style="color:green;font-family:TF2 Build;">s</span>]] {{!}} [[User:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">GrampaSwood</font>]] [[File:PraisetheSun.png|20px|alt=Praise the Sun!]] ([[User talk:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) ([[Special:Contributions/GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">contribs</font>]]) 18:55, 28 March 2024 (UTC)
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= Need to be redone =
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:: That's not the issue I'm having. It's the part where you're showing that it only regenerates faster while you are actively holding the amputator itself. The original video has a 3-way splitscreen with the left side being Amputator, the middle having the Amputator equipped but switched to hold the medi gun, and the right holding the stock bonesaw. I can't the medi gun side and bonesaw side to sync up so it looks like one of them is slightly faster than the other. One of the two is always slightly faster or slower which makes it really difficult to properly demonstrate that part. Even the actual health you gain each tick is slightly variable from what I can tell. I had 6 different clips and synched them all up and they all finished at different times and would have different health values despite all other variables being equal. All 6 clips started at the same time but all 6 of them have different HP https://imgur.com/3NVTjSG. My only thought for a fix is I could try to cheat and essentially just crop the health bar from one of the clips and paste it onto the other so that way they are perfectly synced up. It'd have to be a seamless edit though which is pretty hard to do. [[User:Mediarch|'''Mediarch''']] [[File:User Mediarch PFP.png|25px]][[User:Mediarch|<font color="#ff66cc"> ♥ </font>]][[User talk:Mediarch|'''Talk''']][[User:Mediarch|<font color="#ff66cc"> </font>]][[Special:Contributions/Mediarch|'''My Edits''']] 19:15, 28 March 2024 (UTC)
=={{icon item|Backburner|16px}}[[Back Burner]]==
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== {{Demo Header|Direct Hit}} ==
Comparing to the degreaser video, I feel that extinguishing is a more important feature then spychecking. However, cloak reveal is important too.
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{{c|Does not show splash damage size compared to stock. No damage comparison to stock. You can airshot a soldier that rocket jumps.}}
Note that in this video Armisael messed up the 4 dmg burn time--not very professional looking :P
 
Also the 'thrower could do with a better airblast. [[User:Darkid|Darkid]] 19:44, 3 November 2011 (PDT)
 
:If we're trying to be picky, the thing I'd rather see in a demonstration is the exact angle at which the crits start to occur. I'm having an impression that, unlike the backstab's full rear hemisphere, the angle for backburner crits is closer to a 90 degrees arc. Want me to try and redo the demo with this in mind? — [[User:Zhnigo|Zhnigo]] 08:45, 7 November 2011 (PST)
 
::That is what it is, according to [[Backburner]] [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 18:44, 7 November 2011 (PST)
 
  
=={{icon item|Black Box|16px}} [[Black Box]]==
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== {{Demo Header|Pomson 6000}} ==
I think it should show that the Pyro does get the +15 health bonus. Currently you can see the tiny health crosses over the Pyro, but a short demonstration from the Pyro's view would be better imho. <small>— ''The preceding unsigned comment was added by'' '''[[User:LeGenD`RaGe|LeGenD`RaGe]]''' ([[User talk:LeGenD`RaGe|talk]]) • ([[Special:Contributions/LeGenD`RaGe|contribs]]) </small>
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{{c|October 21, 2016 Patch - Fixed the Pomson 6000 playing the Shotgun reload sound.}}
:Not a very critical change but OK — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 20:50, 8 October 2011 (PDT)
 
  
=={{icon item|Bazaar Bargain|16px}} [[Bazaar Bargain]]==
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== {{Demo Header|Thermal Thruster}} ==
{{c|Needs to be redone (only lose one head on miss)}}
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{{c|Video doesn't show the increased knockback while using the item}}
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This video was created when the rule was just "at least 30 fps". Now, the knockback clips are a bit random and doesn't properly show the actual effect. Maybe the demonstrator can show it by placing a pyro aiming upwards and make it airblast them. The clips would be in badwater roof, the left clip without the thermal just falling off from it and the right clip, jumping with the thermal onto the pyro. · [[User:Ashe|<font color="DB9C1F">Ashe</font>]] ([[User talk:Ashe|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) 17:18, 28 March 2024 (UTC)
  
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= [[Main Page (Classic)|Team Fortress Classic]] =
There's been some talk on the BB talk page about the old demonstration being a bit too erratic, I'll consider that. — [[User:Zhnigo|Zhnigo]] 09:32, 21 October 2011 (PDT)
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== [[File:TFC Crowbar.PNG|16px]] [[Crowbar (Classic)]] ==
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{{c|Haven't been able to find a proper bot program. Will need another players in order to successfully demonstrate}}
  
There it is, in full motion-blurry glory. :3 [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eRYJKgg43D0 YT]/[http://www.mediafire.com/?mdeptq26inmnfmq MF]. Srcdemo may be slow, but I just can't resist the final clean look, and stable FPS too. Guess for me it's just quality over quantity. — [[User:Zhnigo|Zhnigo]] 15:22, 23 October 2011 (PDT)
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=Questions and Proposals=
:Just out of curiosity, what framerate was that rendered at? — [[User:Armisael |'''Armisael''']] <small>([[User_talk:Armisael |T]] | [[Special:Contributions/Armisael |C]])</small> 16:08, 23 October 2011 (PDT)
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'''Note: This section is for questions and proposals that aren't specific to a single weapon. If you think a demo ought to be remade, then make an entry for it in the [[Team_Fortress_Wiki_talk:Weapon_Demonstration#Need_to_be_redone|Need to be Redone]] section above and it will be dealt with.'''
30 fps * 20 blended frames = 600 host fps :3 — [[User:Zhnigo|Zhnigo]] 17:16, 23 October 2011 (PDT)
 
:Well doesn't dat look dandy. There is some pretty bad audio desync issue at the beginning though (look at the first shot on the pyro, he squeals 0.7 seconds after he gets shot). This is probably due to that bug in source recorder which causes the .wav files produced when rendering at high framerates to be slightly off-sync. To fix this, simply rerender the demo with a more normal framerate (but higher than the game's demo tick rate of 33, otherwise some sounds may get skipped completely) and use the .wav from that render. Also, if you're going to go the same router as the saxxy and show the draw weapon animation, cut out any frame that contain the old weapon. Looks like some remnant of his hand in the bottom left corner right when the loadout screen closes. That might be part of the animation though, so ignore this if that is the case — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 17:06, 24 October 2011 (PDT)
 
::Sorry for the delay, life's been a bit harsh on me lately. ^^ So, I've messed around with the audio tracks, now it syncs about right: [http://youtu.be/PpuQJF01dn0 YT]/[http://www.mediafire.com/?y08yhn4c3q10er1 MF]. That thing at the right corner of the screen in the beginning is actually the butt of the rifle, so I left that intact. Should I remove it? — [[User:Zhnigo|Zhnigo]] 14:26, 30 October 2011 (PDT)
 
:::Still kinda iffy at the beginning... but ok — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 21:46, 30 October 2011 (PDT)
 
::::The tooltip still states that "A miss wipes the bonus", so apparently it'll have to be redone when they fix it. I will also erase the "Crafted by:" mention. :3 — [[User:Zhnigo|Zhnigo]] 09:31, 7 November 2011 (PST)
 
  
=={{icon item|Bonk! Atomic Punch|16px}} [[Bonk! Atomic Punch]]==
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== [[File:Item icon Voodoo-Cursed Heavy Soul.png|20px|link=Zombie Infection]] [[Zombie Infection]] Zombies ==
{{c|Mouse moves improperly at loadout screen, effects could be better demonstrated, show reactions to mad milk, jarate, drowning (maybe), machina, healing, etc.}} [[User:Darkid|Darkid]] 05:25, 20 November 2011 (PST)
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{{c|Zombies have different abillities than normal players}}.
:I think it's fine... the mouse movement isn't too bad (it would have been if he rotated the model), and demonstrating the effect with other effects would open a large can of worms of other things that should also be demonstrated by that same logic >: — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 17:39, 20 November 2011 (PST)
 
::Can-o-worms? Like which weapons? Honestly, these side-effects are some of the serious things to be aware of with Bonk!™ Atomic Punch. Admittedly, the loadout screen is minor, but while we're at it...[[User:Darkid|Darkid]] 20:06, 20 November 2011 (PST)
 
:::Like showing how jarate doesn't affect uber'd targets, showing how you can't drown while uber'd or healed showing the degreaser with the axtinguisher, then the postal pummeler too, show that healing negates bleeding effect, etc. Basically, showing interactions between weapons that are not the default ones creates so many links and possibilities that in the end it becomes impractical to show all of them, and makes maintenance of other, unrelated-until-now weapon demos a pain — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 22:43, 20 November 2011 (PST)
 
::::Ubered targets would, in my eyes, fall under this. However, Ubering and Bonk™ are the only two items which can grant invulnerability, so it seems as if this is a relatively minor issue. Dealing bonus damage with the axestinguisher/pummeler is (should be) shown in their respective videos, not in a flamethrower one. I can understand the want not to open up to much insanity, however I leave the decision up to you. <small>— ''The preceding unsigned comment was added by'' '''[[User:Darkid|Darkid]]''' ([[User talk:Darkid|talk]]) • ([[Special:Contributions/Darkid|contribs]]) 4:15, 21 November 2011 (PST)</small>
 
:::::Basically, allowing this video to show special cases with weapons opens up lots of possibilities of other special cases, not only Uber; i.e. Degreaser+Axtinguisher, Atomizer+FaN, Dead Ringer+L'etranger, etc. —[[File:User Rocket Ship BBQ Awesomepyro.png|24px]][[User:Rocket Ship BBQ|Rocket Ship BBQ]]([[File:Speech voice.png|20px|link=User talk:Rocket Ship BBQ]]•[[File:Intel neutral pickedup.png|20px|link=Special:Contributions/Rocket Ship BBQ]]) 09:55, 21 November 2011 (PST)
 
:::::Indeed, it would pretty much create this exponentially-growing network of weapon and their dependencies between one another. Every time a weapon was updated or added, all the weapons that it affects would also need to be updated, which is not easy to maintain. Moreoever, it is unpredictable, since it's Valve that does the modifications/addition, and there is no way to know what will get changed in advance. This causes some wasted effort (like the Cow Mangler with its constantly-updating particle effects; imagine if the Cow Mangler had a really special effect that affected 5 other weapons. Then each time the Cow Mangler changes particle effect, it would be 6 demonstrations in need of updatingness). Keeping the "dependency network" down to only the stock weapons, which Valve tends not to touch, keeps the required effort down to a manageable level. — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 17:03, 21 November 2011 (PST)
 
::::::Ok! OK! It was a bad idea :( [[User:Darkid|Darkid]] 19:06, 21 November 2011 (PST)
 
:::::::Is ok :3 — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 20:49, 21 November 2011 (PST)
 
:If we change to show recharge times? Old video doesn't show recharge time like Mad Milk and Jarate. [[User:Hinaomi|Hinaomi]] [[File:Killicon_unarmed_combat.png]] 19:36, 21 November 2011 (PST)
 
::That on the other hand is a good reason to redo it. I say yes~ — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 20:49, 21 November 2011 (PST)
 
:::::::Hey, no hard feelings. :(  —[[File:User Rocket Ship BBQ Awesomepyro.png|24px]][[User:Rocket Ship BBQ|Rocket Ship BBQ]]([[File:Speech voice.png|20px|link=User talk:Rocket Ship BBQ]]•[[File:Intel neutral pickedup.png|20px|link=Special:Contributions/Rocket Ship BBQ]]) 19:37, 21 November 2011 (PST)
 
  
=={{icon item|Buffalo Steak Sandvich|16px}} [[Buffalo Steak Sandvich]]==
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Hello, I am Slimyboi500.  I will be doing the demostrations for each zombie in Zombie Infection.
{{c|Weapon now has a cooldown even when used at full health.}} [[User:LeGenD`RaGe|LeGenD`RaGe]] 07:32, 24 October 2011 (PDT)
 
  
== {{icon item|Cow Mangler 5000|16px}} [[Cow Mangler 5000]] ==
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Why, you may ask?  Unlike normal gamemodes, the [[BLU]] team (or in this case, the zombies), have different [[Zombie_Infection#Zombie_abilities|abillities]] than normal:
{{c|Done but needs to be redone (new effects)}}
 
:It said in the October 27th 2011 patch that the effects had been updated.
 
::Sorry Akuago :( They do like to change the damn effects, don't they — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 12:49, 29 October 2011 (PDT)
 
:::Tell me about it... I'll get it done tomorrow. --[[User:Akuago220|Akuago220, The Jungle Expeditioner]] 20:27, 30 October 2011 (PDT)
 
:: [http://youtu.be/P7KIgNTKDLw And there we have it.] [http://www.mediafire.com/?3q34cahivupda7k Download here.] --[[User:Akuago220|Akuago220, The Jungle Expeditioner]] 07:55, 1 November 2011 (PDT)
 
:::Thanks, is good~ (But please please please, the framerate D: Needs to be smoother in future videos) — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 13:33, 1 November 2011 (PDT)
 
  
== {{icon item|Chargin' Targe|16px}} [[Chargin' Targe]] ==
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*[[Scout]]: Speed Demon
{{c|Done but needs to be redone (need to show pyro can stop charge with air-blast, demoman still have charge left when stop with air-blast and can charge while mid-air)}}
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*[[Soldier]]: Pounce
:It needs to redone again because It doesn't not show pyro can stop charge with air-blast and demoman still have charge left when stop with air-blast. I think split screen is good to do this work. [[User:Hinaomi|Hinaomi]] 06:55, 25 October 2011 (PDT)
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*[[Pyro]]: Hellspawn
::I forgot charge while mid-air too. [[User:Hinaomi|Hinaomi]] 07:40, 25 October 2011 (PDT)
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*[[Demoman]]: Blast Charge
::Is that really necessary? ._. — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 12:13, 25 October 2011 (PDT)
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*[[Heavy]]: The Tank
:::I think if you show that pyro can stop charge and demoman still have charge left, everyone will know the way to stop charging demoman. But If you think doesn't need to redone then... Just on you Wind. [[User:Hinaomi|Hinaomi]] 22:22, 25 October 2011 (PDT)
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*[[Engineer]]: EMP Grenade
:::I don't think showing the fact that the charge meter doesn't decrease fully is necessary, but demonstrating the you can stop charges like this would indeed be handy — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 18:00, 26 October 2011 (PDT)
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*[[Medic]]: Heal
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*[[Sniper]]: Spit
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*[[Spy]]: Reveal
  
=={{icon item|Claidheamh Mòr|16px}} [[Claidheamh Mòr]]==
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They also have different effects, like different amounts of [[health]] and [[speed]].  The zombies only can use melee attacks however, which makes it harder to kill.
{{c|Done but need to redone (Doesn't show the health penalty)}} [[User:Darkid|Darkid]] 11:26, 20 November 2011 (PST)
 
:Edit icon and make clear why it need to redone. [[User:Hinaomi|Hinaomi]] [[File:Killicon_unarmed_combat.png]] 19:31, 21 November 2011 (PST)
 
  
=={{icon item|Dalokohs Bar|16px}} [[Dalokohs Bar]]==
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Let me know if it's a good idea or not.
{{c|Something went terribly wrong with this--the health seems to move sporadically and not related at all to the bar. I'm also a little confused as to what it was trying to show.}}[[User:Darkid|Darkid]] 05:25, 20 November 2011 (PST)
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:{{c|?}} Looks fine to me. The health is moving accordingly to the eating and healing by the Medic. It was showing:
 
:* How it healed 60hp
 
:* How Medics can still only overheal to 450hp
 
:* How it wears off after 30 seconds and gives remaining hp as overheal
 
:* How at ~300hp will give you +50 max hp.
 
::—[[File:User Rocket Ship BBQ Awesomepyro.png|24px]][[User:Rocket Ship BBQ|Rocket Ship BBQ]]([[File:Speech voice.png|20px|link=User talk:Rocket Ship BBQ]]•[[File:Intel neutral pickedup.png|20px|link=Special:Contributions/Rocket Ship BBQ]]) 09:57, 20 November 2011 (PST)
 
::Ok, so this is just me being confused as to how the dalokohs bar works. Rather than granting 50 overheal, which was what I expected to happen, it buffs the health of the heavy by 50. No issue with this.[[User:Darkid|Darkid]] 10:22, 20 November 2011 (PST)
 
  
=={{icon item|Degreaser|16px}} [[Degreaser]]==
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:If we're doing this, I think there should be a demonstration made for each gamemode, rather than just Zombie Infection. Although ZI has gotten an introduction video now that shows off the mode pretty well, so I don't believe it is necessary.<br>[[File:BLU Wiki Cap.png|20px|link=List of Wiki Cap owners]] | [[Help:Group rights|<span style="color:green;font-family:TF2 Build;">s</span>]] | [[User:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">GrampaSwood</font>]] [[File:PraisetheSun.png|20px|alt=Praise the Sun!]] ([[User talk:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) ([[Special:Contributions/GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">contribs</font>]]) 17:53, 27 October 2023 (UTC)
{{c|Needs to be redone (current video does not use splitscreen to show weapon switch speed comparison)}}
 
:In the [[Fists of Steel]] and the [[Reserve Shooter]] demonstration, there is a splitscreen to show the difference between weapon switch times. Wouldn't it be useful to show the switch increase with a splitscreem? [[User:SpaceAnimator|SpaceAnimator]] 05:44, 29 October 2011 (PDT)
 
::Yes — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 12:49, 29 October 2011 (PDT)
 
{{c|Reserved by Shadow6548}}
 
:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJfJzOQwL1Y — [[User:Armisael |'''Armisael''']] <small>([[User_talk:Armisael |T]] | [[Special:Contributions/Armisael |C]])</small> 21:07, 15 November 2011 (PST)
 
::Dat blendrate
 
::Is good, please upload~ — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 23:14, 15 November 2011 (PST)
 
:::http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gvr4igDPAbk Sorry. Just realized that I forgot to disable resampling in Vegas. It makes things all ghosty. — [[User:Armisael |'''Armisael''']] <small>([[User_talk:Armisael |T]] | [[Special:Contributions/Armisael |C]])</small> 05:47, 16 November 2011 (PST)
 
::::But but but that's a good thing :( That's exactly what SrcDemo2 does, except without shutter angle consideration. Still better than no resampling — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 16:10, 16 November 2011 (PST)
 
:::::Apparently SrcDemo does it better than vegas, because even smart resampling gives disgusting motion blur. Personally, I prefer clean and a little choppy over smooth and really blurry, and since there doesn't seem to be a way to get both without spending an 20 minutes recording each clip, clean and a little choppy it is. — [[User:Armisael |'''Armisael''']] <small>([[User_talk:Armisael |T]] | [[Special:Contributions/Armisael |C]])</small> 19:00, 16 November 2011 (PST)
 
::::::Well not really, ''motion blur'' (even simulated) and ''ghosting'' are a bit different things. :3 The latter is usually considered a nuisance and the first one a controlled artistic effect. — [[User:Zhnigo|Zhnigo]] 18:26, 17 November 2011 (PST)
 
  
=={{icon item|Fan O'War|16px}} [[Fan O'War]]==
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::The introduction is missing a few key details, such as not showing the Soldier or Heavy's abilities.  I feel like it would be a good idea.  Such as like there should be a demo for VSH.
{{c|Needs to be redone: Item is store-bought, start is improper}}
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:Also, might we want to change the way this demo is done? [[User:Darkid|Darkid]] 17:23, 22 November 2011 (PST)
 
::The order of the keeling, perhaps. But it still has to show how futile this weapon is in actually dealing damage itself, which the Pyro does a good job of demonstrating — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 17:35, 22 November 2011 (PST)
 
:::I do feel that it has to be redone due to the issue with the item. You could even just splice in a different video track for the beginning. I'm wondering if it would be better to have a friendly attacker merely attack them, rather than having the scout kill then the demoman kill. [[User:Darkid|Darkid]] 17:47, 22 November 2011 (PST)
 
  
=={{icon item|Fire Axe|16px}} [[Fire Axe]]==
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:::It doesn't show each ability, but it does overall show the gamemode very well and I think does a sufficient job. Although, again, if we are making demonstrations for this, I think one should be made for each gamemode.<br>[[File:BLU Wiki Cap.png|20px|link=List of Wiki Cap owners]] | [[Help:Group rights|<span style="color:green;font-family:TF2 Build;">s</span>]] | [[User:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">GrampaSwood</font>]] [[File:PraisetheSun.png|20px|alt=Praise the Sun!]] ([[User talk:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) ([[Special:Contributions/GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">contribs</font>]]) 18:18, 27 October 2023 (UTC)
{{c|Needs to be redone (show weapon in loadout screen)}}
 
:The current video doesn't show the Fire Axe in the loadout screen. [[User:SpaceAnimator|SpaceAnimator]] 05:44, 29 October 2011 (PDT)
 
::How did this get through QA? Oh wait — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 12:49, 29 October 2011 (PDT)
 
{{c|wait|Reserved by [[User:Zhnigo|Zhnigo]]}}
 
If everyone doesn't mind. The SRCDemo's motion blur goes best with melee weapons. — [[User:Zhnigo|Zhnigo]] 14:33, 30 October 2011 (PDT)
 
Well, that was easy: [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4J-1-e7ycB0 YT]/[http://www.mediafire.com/?1z84cwi838ab9nd MF]. — [[User:Zhnigo|Zhnigo]] 16:17, 30 October 2011 (PDT)
 
:Well dat was fast. Thanks~ — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 21:46, 30 October 2011 (PDT)
 
  
=={{icon item|Flare Gun|16px}} [[Flare Gun]]==
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::::Yes, I think there should be one for each gamemode.
{{c|Needs to be redone (current video doesn't hit target at back)}}
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::::----[[User:Slimyboi500|Slimyboi500]] ([[User talk:Slimyboi500|talk]]) [[File:User Slimyboi500 Profile.jpg|25px]] 19:41, 27 October 2023 (UTC)
It is important to hit the target at the back since this weapon arcs. <small>— ''The preceding unsigned comment was added by'' '''[[User:SpaceAnimator|SpaceAnimator]]''' ([[User talk:SpaceAnimator|talk]]) • ([[Special:Contributions/SpaceAnimator|contribs]]) 09:10, November 16, 2011</small>
 
:Is it really important? - [[Special:Contributions/Hinaomi|Hinaomi]] ([[User talk:Hinaomi|Talk]]) 19:37, November 16, 2011  (PDT)
 
::How did this go through QA? >: Yes, it is important, especially since it arcs. — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 16:10, 16 November 2011 (PST)
 
:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OecSVLRCD5k — [[User:Armisael |'''Armisael''']] <small>([[User_talk:Armisael |T]] | [[Special:Contributions/Armisael |C]])</small> 19:00, 16 November 2011 (PST)
 
::Yes I did miss it, and Darkid removed the "cough" message too. Anyway, is good, please upload~ — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 22:43, 20 November 2011 (PST)
 
  
== {{icon item|Golden Wrench|16px}} [[Golden Wrench]] ==
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:::::Remember to also indent your signature and to keep your answers above the hidden comment.<br>[[File:BLU Wiki Cap.png|20px|link=List of Wiki Cap owners]] | [[Help:Group rights|<span style="color:green;font-family:TF2 Build;">s</span>]] | [[User:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">GrampaSwood</font>]] [[File:PraisetheSun.png|20px|alt=Praise the Sun!]] ([[User talk:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) ([[Special:Contributions/GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">contribs</font>]]) 19:51, 27 October 2023 (UTC)
{{c|Solid corpses, no moving parts, and update kill line}}
 
:Corpses are still not solid from my testing... And the line that was added is actually already in the demonstration, I was using a modified talker file i-ghost made to add it — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 21:46, 29 October 2011 (PDT)
 
  
=={{icon item|Gloves of Running Urgently|16px}} [[Gloves of Running Urgently]]==
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::::::Still, is that a yes on the idea?
{{c|Needs to be redone (current video does not use splitscreen to show speed difference and show that the speed boost only applies when the weapon is out.)}}
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::::::----[[User:Slimyboi500|Slimyboi500]] ([[User talk:Slimyboi500|talk]]) [[File:User Slimyboi500 Profile.jpg|25px]] 20:28, 27 October 2023 (UTC)
:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9qilwR77C2Q — [[User:Armisael |'''Armisael''']] <small>([[User_talk:Armisael |T]] | [[Special:Contributions/Armisael |C]])</small> 20:46, 14 November 2011 (PST)
 
::Cough. — [[User:Armisael |'''Armisael''']] <small>([[User_talk:Armisael |T]] | [[Special:Contributions/Armisael |C]])</small> 19:00, 16 November 2011 (PST)
 
:::Wind = Herp derp. Yes, is good, please upload — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 22:43, 20 November 2011 (PST)
 
  
=={{icon item|Gunboats|16px}} [[Gunboats]]==
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{{Outdent|6}} I'm voting no, but other people might be in favour of it. [[User:Profiteer|Profiteer]] was, for example, so I'm waiting for more input.<br>[[File:BLU Wiki Cap.png|20px|link=List of Wiki Cap owners]] | [[Help:Group rights|<span style="color:green;font-family:TF2 Build;">s</span>]] | [[User:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">GrampaSwood</font>]] [[File:PraisetheSun.png|20px|alt=Praise the Sun!]] ([[User talk:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) ([[Special:Contributions/GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">contribs</font>]]) 20:35, 27 October 2023 (UTC)
{{c|Needs to be redone (current video does not use splitscreen)}}
 
:It needs to be redone because it would be better if a splitscreen was used to compare self damage from rocket jumps. Thoughts plz Wind :3 [[User:SpaceAnimator|SpaceAnimator]] 11:07, 28 October 2011 (PDT)
 
  
== {{icon item|Pain Train|16px}} [[Pain Train]] ==
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:I vote yes for the Zombie Infection zombies (as well Saxton Hale on VSH), but not for other gamemodes. I consider these zombies kinda like "new weapons". They all have different abilities, passives, first-person views, etc. I'm not quite sure if there needs to be a demonstration regarding the human part (only if demonstrated humans being infected by zombies upon dying), and perhaps the only thing related to humans would be that zombies drop small healthkits (because it's related to them, the zombies). A showcase of each zombie class, its ability, and some human interactions like being infected by them, and, killing them as humans, would probably be a nifty video package. [[File:User Gabrielwoj Signature Icon.png|15px|Headphones style when?|link=User:Gabrielwoj]] - [[File:User Gabrielwoj Signature 1.png|link=User:Gabrielwoj]] ▪ [[File:User Gabrielwoj Signature 2.png|link=Special:Contribs/Gabrielwoj]] - [[File:User Gabrielwoj Signature 3.png|link=User talk:Gabrielwoj]] 22:34, 27 October 2023 (UTC)
{{c|New taunt}}
 
  
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kjMKW494B8Q [[File:ModestScout.png|25px]] [[User:Zafir168|<b><i>Zafir168</i></b>]] 10:55, 2 November 2011 (PDT)
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:: I'm all in for ZI and VSH demos, but a significant issue would be future balance patches to the modes. Each balance patch so far has significantly changed the zombies, and if we had already made the demo, we would have to redo the video for each one of these updates, which would result in multiple uploads of the same video over and over again and a lot of work (and given how we can barely keep up with the current demos in the [[#Need_to_be_redone|backlog]]...). Maybe instead of a gamemode demonstration, we could simply do a "zombie class demonstration" ("Zombie Sniper", etc.) and a "mechanics demonstration" (weapon modifications, gamemode-specific elements). This way, if a zombie is changed, we wouldn't have to redo the entire video. — [[User:Tark|<span style="font-weight:bold;color: #5BC236">Tark</span>]] 22:51, 27 October 2023 (UTC)
:This doesn't follow the new rules due to the updated backpack D: (You have to press escape, without moving the mouse; check the project page). Test on tr_target_weaponref_hdr too, preferably. There is also a music discrepancy at 0:54 (use a single, continuous track). Rest is good :3 — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 23:15, 2 November 2011 (PDT)
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFNaIiFEjuQ I used the old version of the map because it's not necessary to use the hdr one. [[File:ModestScout.png|25px]] [[User:Zafir168|<b><i>Zafir168</i></b>]] 07:50, 3 November 2011 (PDT)
 
:There is a sound glitch at 0:46~0:47 (last hit on the medic). Also, the comment on the video is accurate; you should switch to a weapon that is not the Pain Train in order to show that the faster cap speed applies when the weapon is not out. I'm pretty sure your first video showed it that way o_O
 
:As for the map, it is necessary if you can run it:
 
::*Open TF2, open the console, and then type: map tr_target_weaponref_hdr. Wait for the map to load.
 
::**If the game runs too slowly and the framerate is not smooth enough, type map tr_target_weaponref to use the lower-quality version of the map.
 
:So please use tr_target_weaponref_hdr, unless the framerate suffers >: — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 16:47, 3 November 2011 (PDT)
 
The Soldier's hand has a huge invisible part near the elbow. Wind, let's establish the default viewmodel FOV at 54, pretty please? ^^ — [[User:Zhnigo|Zhnigo]] 15:05, 3 November 2011 (PDT)
 
:{{c|Nope}} >: — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 16:47, 3 November 2011 (PDT)
 
Pain train station in play town <:]. And I tried the map but the fps was below 25 so I needed to stick with the older version. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zk8melCyNzc [[File:ModestScout.png|25px]] [[User:Zafir168|<b><i>Zafir168</i></b>]] 10:30, 4 November 2011 (PDT)
 
:Is good, please upload~ — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 11:37, 5 November 2011 (PDT)
 
http://www.mediafire.com/?u6fu2iap3iw6pmi [[File:ModestScout.png|25px]] [[User:Zafir168|<b><i>Zafir168</i></b>]] 15:32, 5 November 2011 (PDT)
 
:Sorry, I didn't catch two things :(
 
# Don't show the spy
 
# As demo, swing the Pain Train once after doing the taunt to trigger the line, like the [[Bottle]] demo does — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 13:09, 17 November 2011 (PST)
 
  
== {{icon item|Persian Persuader|16px}} [[Persian Persuader]] ==
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::: I will do the demo as soon as I get enough votes for it
{{c|Can't get metal from dispensers, less health from dropped weapons}}
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::: ----[[User:Slimyboi500|Slimyboi500]] ([[User talk:Slimyboi500|talk]]) [[File:User Slimyboi500 Profile.jpg|25px]] 18:42, 15 November 2023 (UTC)
  
{{c|wait|Reserved by Mellotaku}}
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::::Voting yes for the demo, ZI and VSH seems stable...for now at least[[User:Profiteer|Profiteer(奸商)the tryhard]] ([[User talk:Profiteer|talk]]) 11:05, 21 November 2023 (UTC)
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== {{icon item|Saxxy|16px}} [[Saxxy]] ==
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== Flippin' Awesome and Skullcracker in VSH ==
{{c|New taunts}}
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When Saxton Hale used [[Flippin' Awesome]] or [[Skullcracker]], the other mercenary participating the taunt will be [[VS_Saxton_Hale_Mode#cite_ref-10|taunt killed]], is this something worth remaking the taunt demonstration? Or we just keep the current taunt demonstration, but add this feature into the VSH demonstration? --[[User:AlexT|<span style="background:linear-gradient(#D1EEFC, #81F3FD);border:1px #99F3FD solid;color:#007FFF;border-radius:8px">'''Alex'''</span>]][[User talk:AlexT|<span style="color: #FF6600;">'''T'''</span>]] 18:31, 22 July 2023 (UTC)
{{c|Reversed by Wind}} (this is gonna take a while) — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 21:35, 13 October 2011 (PDT)
 
:Not only new taunt. Kill line is change for some class. [[User:Hinaomi|Hinaomi]] 06:35, 23 October 2011 (PDT)
 
  
== {{icon item|Scottish Resistance|16px}} [[Scottish Resistance]] ==
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:I think a VSH demonstration would be better, as it may be confusing why Saxton Hale is suddenly there when he's not normally playable.<br>[[File:BLU Wiki Cap.png|20px|link=Wiki Cap]] | [[Help:Group rights|<span style="color:green;font-family:TF2 Build;">s</span>]] | [[User:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">GrampaSwood</font>]] ([[User talk:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) 19:52, 22 July 2023 (UTC)
{{c|Done but needs to be redone (Custom crosshair)}}
 
{{c|Reserved by Shadow6548}}
 
  
== {{icon item|Scotsman's Skullcutter|16px}} [[Scotsman's Skullcutter]] ==
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::Yes, a demonstration regarding VSH, showing all Hale's abilities, and some unique taunt interactions, would be the most ideal (including his default taunt kill). That one would probably be more lengthy, and some things would probably require to be discussed beforehand. Like Mercs being able to wall climb (which is applied to even stock weaponry), should that be shown too? [[File:User Gabrielwoj Signature Icon.png|15px|Headphones style when?|link=User:Gabrielwoj]] - [[File:User Gabrielwoj Signature 1.png|link=User:Gabrielwoj]] ▪ [[File:User Gabrielwoj Signature 2.png|link=Special:Contribs/Gabrielwoj]] - [[File:User Gabrielwoj Signature 3.png|link=User talk:Gabrielwoj]] 20:31, 22 July 2023 (UTC)
{{c|The Scotsman's Skullcutter's slowdown attribute no longer shortens the Chargin' Targe's charge length.}}
 
  
This was changed back in late June, I have no idea why no one has nominated this weapon's demonstration for reconsideration yet. -- [[User:Psychopath|Psychopath]] [[File:User_Psychopath_avatar.png|16px|link=User_talk:Psychopath]] 13:13, 13 November 2011 (PST)
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:::I think maybe a demonstration for every game mode could be in order, as a sort of semi-tutorial created by us. A VSH one would fit that too.<br>[[File:BLU Wiki Cap.png|20px|link=Wiki Cap]] | [[Help:Group rights|<span style="color:green;font-family:TF2 Build;">s</span>]] | [[User:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">GrampaSwood</font>]] ([[User talk:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) 08:33, 23 July 2023 (UTC)
: It really wouldn't even need to be remade. Just chop the last part off that demonstrates it and it'll be fine. [[User:Balladofwindfishes|Balladofwindfishes]] 14:01, 13 November 2011 (PST)
 
::The patch didn't actually do anything. In fact, the current video was made in response to the aforementioned patch. — [[User:Armisael |'''Armisael''']] <small>([[User_talk:Armisael |T]] | [[Special:Contributions/Armisael |C]])</small> 18:04, 13 November 2011 (PST)
 
  
== {{icon item|Splendid Screen|16px}} [[Splendid Screen]] ==
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== Configs for partner taunt demonstrations ==
{{c|Done but needs to be redone (need to show pyro can stop charge with air-blast, demoman still have charge left when stop with air-blast and can charge while mid-air)}}
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I've created some configs for partner taunt demonstrations. It automatically spawns 2 bots, places you in the starting position, and has another small command ("teleport") to input after it to teleport both the bots to the right position. It binds H and J to the bots performing taunts, H = BLU bot does taunt, J = RED bot does taunt. They're all class-specific and automatically kick any other bots there. There's no way (right now) that I know of to update the weaponref.zip, so if anyone needs it I can forward you a zip of the files. Just let me know on my talk page (or if you know of a way to update weaponref).<br>[[File:BLU Wiki Cap.png|20px|link=List of Wiki Cap owners]] | [[Help:Group rights|<span style="color:green;font-family:TF2 Build;">s</span>]] | [[User:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">GrampaSwood</font>]] [[File:PraisetheSun.png|20px|alt=Praise the Sun!]] ([[User talk:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) ([[Special:Contributions/GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">contribs</font>]]) 23:56, 13 November 2023 (UTC)
:It needs to redone again because It doesn't not show pyro can stop charge with air-blast and demoman still have charge left when stop with air-blast. I think split screen is good to do this work. [[User:Hinaomi|Hinaomi]] 06:55, 25 October 2011 (PDT)
 
::I forgot charge while mid-air too. [[User:Hinaomi|Hinaomi]] 07:39, 25 October 2011 (PDT)
 
::Again, is that really necessary? — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 12:13, 25 October 2011 (PDT)
 
:::I think if you show that pyro can stop charge and demoman still have charge left, everyone will know the way to stop charging demoman. But If you think doesn't need to redone then... Just on you Wind. [[User:Hinaomi|Hinaomi]] 22:19, 25 October 2011 (PDT)
 
== {{icon item|Warrior's Spirit|16px}} [[Warrior's Spirit]] ==
 
{{c|Weapon does not demonstrate health penalty}} [[User:Darkid|Darkid]] 04:30, 17 November 2011 (PST)
 
  
== {{icon item|Wrangler|16px}} [[Wrangler]] ==
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== New tr_karma and requirements ==
{{c|New taunt}}
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I've been working in the past week in fixing some issues tr_karma has and some new guidelines. The changes to tr_karma are:
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* Increased lightmap quality in the interiors
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* Fixed a "checkerboard" texture in the gas cylinder, the ceiling fan and the cardboard boxes
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* Added chat scripts to enable noclip (!n in the chat), regenerate (!r), spawn an ammo pack (!am) and enable demonstration server settings (!demo) (these commands are available also in the new tr_karma_basic.cfg)
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* Fixed the func_buttons in the wood targets only working once, thus displaying the hit particle once
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* Removed Tough Break cases and the Gargoyle prop as they didn't fit the ambience
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* Removed the mining cart prop in the rails due of a lighting issue
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* Repacked the map, reducing the map size from ~91 MB to ~18 MB
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The link to the download and new proposed guidelines are [[User:Ashe/Sandbox2|here]]. Check them out and give feedback · [[User:Ashe|<font color="DB9C1F">Ashe</font>]] ([[User talk:Ashe|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) 16:38, 13 December 2023 (UTC)
  
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MwNaWwzaBoA — [http://wiki.teamfortress.com/wiki/User:Karmacharger Karmacharger]] (T | C) 04:52, 23 October 2011 (PDT)
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== Issues with tr_krama and tr_krama_event ==
i already show the new Wrangler taun in this video.
 
  
http://www.mediafire.com/?hh6d3ot1cj9f65q — [http://wiki.teamfortress.com/wiki/User:Karmacharger Karmacharger] (T | C) 04:52, 23 October 2011 (PDT)
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When I start a local server and load tr_krama/tr_krama_event, it won't load (probably because it doesn't exsit) lights/shadow making the map super bright, this only happens on 2 krama maps, I tried to download a modified version of tr_krama on workshop and it worked perfectly, pretty sure something is missing in the map file from weaponref.zip.[[User:Profiteer|<font color="8470FF">Profiteer]] the tryhard ([[User talk:Profiteer|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Profiteer|contribute]])</font> 05:59, 10 March 2024 (UTC)
here was the original video file , so everytings are fine.
 
:Nice attempt, but there's quite a few things wrong about it >:
 
* There are black bars on the left and right side of the video
 
* Frame rate is poor (video is choppy); must be at least 30 fps
 
* There is a large audio lag (look at the time between the moment the engineer drops the sentry on the ground, and the time the sentry building sound starts)
 
* You don't have the custom HudDamageAccount.res specified on the project page
 
* Try to demonstrate on tr_target_weaponref_hdr preferably
 
* There is an audio cut at the end
 
* Some things are not demonstrated (sentry jump). Look at the current [[Wrangler]] demonstration
 
Hope this helps :3 — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 15:23, 22 October 2011 (PDT)
 
  
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oM8Ivz113Zk ———— [http://steamcommunity.com/id/wayofsamurai KarmaCharger] (T | C) 10:14, 23 October 2011 (PDT)
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:It works fine on my end.<br>[[File:BLU Wiki Cap.png|20px|link=List of Wiki Cap owners]] {{!}} [[Help:Group rights|<span style="color:green;font-family:TF2 Build;">s</span>]] {{!}} [[User:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">GrampaSwood</font>]] [[File:PraisetheSun.png|20px|alt=Praise the Sun!]] ([[User talk:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) ([[Special:Contributions/GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">contribs</font>]]) 10:11, 10 March 2024 (UTC)
Thanks For Telling me the wrong way i did , so now i was remake again i changed quality into 1080p and fps are 30 , i used the tr_target_weaponref_hdr map to make it and the sentry jump are done too. sorry for bad english.
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::Join the IRC to help you @Profiteer · [[User:Ashe|<font color="DB9C1F">Ashe</font>]] ([[User talk:Ashe|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) 21:33, 16 March 2024 (UTC)
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:::@Profiteer do you have HDR enabled? · [[User:Ashe|<font color="DB9C1F">Ashe</font>]] ([[User talk:Ashe|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) 16:50, 23 March 2024 (UTC)
  
http://www.mediafire.com/?j3q7qn726o67om2 [http://steamcommunity.com/id/wayofsamurai KarmaCharger] (T | C) 10:14, 23 October 2011 (PDT)
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== Question about 2D and 3D player models ==
This was the original video fire , so i hopes you can download it and upload it to the Official TF2 Wiki YouTube channel.
 
:This is much better~ But still not perfect :(
 
* Framerate is the same as the previous video (too low). Maybe your computer is too slow to record it? If it is, then you'll have to use [[Help:Recording demos|Source Recorder]] to create your videos so that the framerate is smooth
 
* There is still an audio cut at the end of the video (make the audio fade out slowly before the end to avoid this
 
* At 1:17, the engineer's dialogue is cut
 
* You should also show the differences between wrangled sentries and non-wrangled sentries (same as the [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DIKQDOP65jg current Wrangler video] at 0:34)
 
* You should show that you can sentry-jump and take the sentry at the same time (same as the [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DIKQDOP65jg current Wrangler video] at 0:57)
 
* You should show the effect of the sentry shield (same as the [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DIKQDOP65jg current Wrangler video] at 1:15)
 
* The transitions between videos are a bit too fast. After each clip, wait a second or two before changing to the next clip; and at the beginning of each clip, wait a second or two before starting to move
 
Thanks, keep up the good work :3 — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 11:48, 23 October 2011 (PDT)
 
  
Hello , so i have a problem with saving the video file , the video is already done . i used the vegas pro 10 to make it at the last setup saving it as wmv . but i can't even save it as a full screen thats a 2 black bar in the left and right side in the video , i just try alot of setting but thats still same.. :( so how can i save it as the video was no black bar and full screen? <small>— ''The preceding unsigned comment was added by'' '''[[User:Karmacharger|KarmaCharger]]''' ([[User talk:Karmacharger|talk]]) • ([[Special:Contributions/Karmacharger|contribs]]) </small>
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A question I've had for a while about weapon demonstrations is, is there a specific reason that 2D player images in the HUD are standard rather than the 3D player model (be it for performance, consistency, or any other reason), also considering that 3D player models are enabled by default? The 3D model could also generally be more useful for certain cosmetics or demonstrations. [[User:Scorchshotgaming|Scorchshotgaming]] ([[User talk:Scorchshotgaming|talk]]) 16:47, 8 April 2024 (UTC)
:This means that either 1) your game or 2) your Vegas project settings or 3) your Vegas rendering settings or 4) a combination of the former have an aspect ratio that is not 16:9. If #1 is true, then your footage is not 16:9, so you will have to re-record it :( — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 12:13, 25 October 2011 (PDT)
 
  
hello , i have some problem with my pc , so i lost the video and DEM files....... so i quite this sorry. <small>— ''The preceding unsigned comment was added by'' '''[[User:KarmaCharger|KarmaCharger]]''' ([[User talk:KarmaCharger|talk]]) • ([[Special:Contributions/KarmaCharger|contribs]]) </small>
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: they're buggy, eat up frame rate on a lot of systems, and aren't really necessary. I don't think they really add anything of value to the videos so my vote would be to keep them disabled. [[User:Mediarch|'''Mediarch''']] [[File:User Mediarch PFP.png|25px]][[User:Mediarch|<font color="#ff66cc"> ♥ </font>]][[User talk:Mediarch|'''Talk''']][[User:Mediarch|<font color="#ff66cc"> </font>]][[Special:Contributions/Mediarch|'''My Edits''']] 16:50, 8 April 2024 (UTC)
:<nowiki>:</nowiki>( — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 18:00, 26 October 2011 (PDT)
 
  
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::As far as I know, there's no real reason that we prefer one over the other. 3D models are enabled by default, but it may have just been something that was done for a while and became the standard.<br>[[File:BLU Wiki Cap.png|20px|link=List of Wiki Cap owners]] {{!}} [[Help:Group rights|<span style="color:green;font-family:TF2 Build;">s</span>]] {{!}} [[User:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">GrampaSwood</font>]] [[File:PraisetheSun.png|20px|alt=Praise the Sun!]] ([[User talk:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) ([[Special:Contributions/GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">contribs</font>]]) 16:57, 8 April 2024 (UTC)
  
=Proposals=
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:::Fair point, it would obviously be a massive hassle to redo every demonstration with a 2D player model. Also for some people I suppose keeping them off improves framerate. [[User:Scorchshotgaming|Scorchshotgaming]] ([[User talk:Scorchshotgaming|talk]]) 19:59, 8 April 2024 (UTC)
== Default quality of videos ==
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::::I'm pretty sure it's because when they were added to the game, it caused lag to a lot of people. The recent 64 bits update fixed the 3d character using a lot of cpu and now it shouldn't affect fps (although i guess modern pcs didn't have issue with it anyways) · [[User:Ashe|<font color="DB9C1F">Ashe</font>]] ([[User talk:Ashe|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) 15:21, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
I personally dislike how the videos default to 720p. I presume that the majority of people prefer 360p due to it being default and faster load times, especially on slow internets/computers. I personally prefer 360p because it loads much faster. Discuss. —[[File:User Rocket Ship BBQ Awesomepyro.png|24px]][[User:Rocket Ship BBQ|Rocket Ship BBQ]]([[File:Speech voice.png|20px|link=User talk:Rocket Ship BBQ]]•[[File:Intel neutral pickedup.png|20px|link=Special:Contributions/Rocket Ship BBQ]]) 21:16, 2 November 2011 (PDT)
 
:In Youtube if your video have quality more than 360p. Youtube will crate 360p and another size if you have large quality. So 720p is the best for slow and fast internet. [[User:Hinaomi|Hinaomi]] 22:46, 2 November 2011 (PDT)
 
::{{c|?|What?}} I don't understand your logic. —[[File:User Rocket Ship BBQ Awesomepyro.png|24px]][[User:Rocket Ship BBQ|Rocket Ship BBQ]]([[File:Speech voice.png|20px|link=User talk:Rocket Ship BBQ]]•[[File:Intel neutral pickedup.png|20px|link=Special:Contributions/Rocket Ship BBQ]]) 22:52, 2 November 2011 (PDT)
 
:I agree that 720p is overkill for the default player size, 480p would be a better fit. However, YouTube doesn't support (officially, at least) a way to specify the default format anymore. [http://code.google.com/apis/youtube/player_parameters.html#hd The only parameter they do allow to control this id "hd"], which only toggles between 360p (hd = 0) or 720p (HD = 1). At any rate, I think it's a fair assumption to say that if you can play TF2 on your computer, then you probably have the required bandwidth and the processing power to be able to play 720p video. — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 23:15, 2 November 2011 (PDT)
 
::True point. Still, the 720p causes it to play slower due to loading times. Hmm, is it possible to make it a user setting through the template? Probably not worth it however. —[[File:User Rocket Ship BBQ Awesomepyro.png|24px]][[User:Rocket Ship BBQ|Rocket Ship BBQ]]([[File:Speech voice.png|20px|link=User talk:Rocket Ship BBQ]]•[[File:Intel neutral pickedup.png|20px|link=Special:Contributions/Rocket Ship BBQ]]) 23:19, 2 November 2011 (PDT)
 
:::Would be possible with JavaScript and storing the setting as a cookie, but yeah, that would be extra code for everyone to load for little benefit — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 23:27, 2 November 2011 (PDT)
 
  
== Rocket Jumper and Uncraftable Items ==
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== Mastercomfig question ==
  
Does the Rocket Jumper need to be redone, as it now allows you to survive an Equaliser taunt? Also, can uncraftable items be used for the demonstrations? [[User:Availn|availn]] 23:37, 16 November 2011 (PST)
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I am planning to make a demonstration, and the recommended requirements state that Mastercomfig High/Ultra is preferrable. However, I highly doubt my PC is able to run Mastercomfig High/Ultra properly and all the other high graphics settings. Is it acceptable if I use Mastercomfig Medium High and use average graphics settings? May look slightly lower quality than a typical reservation, but I don't think much will be affected. [[User:Scorchshotgaming|Scorchshotgaming]] ([[User talk:Scorchshotgaming|talk]]) 21:44, 18 April 2024 (UTC)
:Does the Rocket Jumper need to be redone >> Yes, but not now.
 
:Can uncraftable items be used for the demonstrations? >> Yes, you can. But if you have craftable one, use craftable. [[User:Hinaomi|Hinaomi]] [[File:Killicon_unarmed_combat.png]] 00:07, 17 November 2011 (PST)
 
  
== Hat Demonstration: Saxton Hale Mask ==
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:Ultra is preferable, but setting your game to all max settings should suffice.<br>[[File:BLU Wiki Cap.png|20px|link=List of Wiki Cap owners]] {{!}} [[Help:Group rights|<span style="color:green;font-family:TF2 Build;">s</span>]] {{!}} [[User:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">GrampaSwood</font>]] [[File:PraisetheSun.png|20px|alt=Praise the Sun!]] ([[User talk:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) ([[Special:Contributions/GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">contribs</font>]]) 21:45, 18 April 2024 (UTC)
  
Why can't anyone put up a video about the saxton hale mask? I think that since it has an effect, it should be demonstrated... <small>— ''The preceding unsigned comment was added by'' '''[[User:Tsvetoslav|Tsvetoslav]]''' ([[User talk:Tsvetoslav|talk]]) • ([[Special:Contributions/Tsvetoslav|contribs]]) 12:13, 22 November 2011 (PST)</small>
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::Well, I'll look through some configurations, and if I find one that looks high enough quality without sacrificing my computer's performance I will use it (my PC is not too high spec, to say the least). My demonstration is for the Cleaner's Carbine; once you review it tell me your thoughts. For me this is especially important because I will need to screen record this too. [[User:Scorchshotgaming|Scorchshotgaming]] ([[User talk:Scorchshotgaming|talk]]) 21:48, 18 April 2024 (UTC)
:{{c|support}} Yes, there should be one imo. —[[File:User Rocket Ship BBQ Awesomepyro.png|24px]][[User:Rocket Ship BBQ|Rocket Ship BBQ]]([[File:Speech voice.png|20px|link=User talk:Rocket Ship BBQ]]•[[File:Intel neutral pickedup.png|20px|link=Special:Contributions/Rocket Ship BBQ]]) 13:11, 22 November 2011 (PST)
 
:{{c|Nope.avi}} I think no. Because if we do, unusal hat, jigglebone hat and effect hat (e.g. Mining light have light bright when in the dark room, earbud has note effect etc.) must do demonstration too. And I think hats don't have anything interest, have only cosmetics. [[User:Hinaomi|Hinaomi]] [[File:Killicon_unarmed_combat.png]] 15:02, 22 November 2011 (PST)
 
::That hat, and the [[Horseless Headless Horsemann's Head]], renders players immune to the stun of the [[ghost]].—[[File:User Rocket Ship BBQ Awesomepyro.png|24px]][[User:Rocket Ship BBQ|Rocket Ship BBQ]]([[File:Speech voice.png|20px|link=User talk:Rocket Ship BBQ]]•[[File:Intel neutral pickedup.png|20px|link=Special:Contributions/Rocket Ship BBQ]]) 15:05, 22 November 2011 (PST)
 

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Tools

Chemistry Set Chemistry Set

Hi, just made a vid demonstration about Chemistry kit. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R2uEkaw6Jbs&feature=youtu.be What should i do next? ~ Fokus 03.06.2020 16:50 GMT+2

Hi there,
You now have to wait for WindPower to respond. He usually does this every week on Sundays, though he's very busy nowadays.
My advice on your video is: Don't start in the Main Menu, start in the backpack (first page) instead. Make sure your backpack's page is also clear of other stuff, so when you finished using the chemistry set it doesnt go to the third page and you'll have to drag it from there. Show yourself using the Chemistry Set, too, it's part of its functionality. Your video also seems to have a delay between sound and the video.
It also lacks editing.
GrampaSwood (talk) 15:05, 3 June 2020 (UTC)
> he's very busy nowadays
You give me too much credit. — Wind 05:44, 8 July 2020 (UTC)
Hi, thanks for tips. I fixed the video, now it should be much better. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-fgON6QQ6Mk&feature=youtu.be
Fokuskii (talk) 23:53, 3 June 2020 (UTC)
The same problem applies with the backpack. It should start on the first page (that's empty except for the required items). The section where you hover over the chemistry set is too long, perhaps make it 1 or 2 seconds. The same thing applies to the end, show the strangifier being applied. It also lacks fading (A lot of these things can be fixed with simple editing, but I think the pages thing will have to be done with a new one :\)
GrampaSwood (talk) 13:10, 4 June 2020 (UTC)
The video should also be 1080p (your first version was 1080p but the second version is 720p). Agreed with all other comments — Wind 05:44, 8 July 2020 (UTC)

I have both an alt and a professor speks chemistry set for this demonstration, I just have yet to find the password to the account...
BLU Wiki Cap.png | s | GrampaSwood Praise the Sun! (talk) (contribs) 21:36, 12 November 2023 (UTC)

Hey, was wondering if this was still open? I can do a possible version with a collector chemistry kit but not sure if it matters if it's strangifier or collector's. God'sWrath (talk) 01:15, 16 February 2024 (UTC)

It's still open, although a collector's kit may be too large as it would require showing all 100 items added.
BLU Wiki Cap.png | s | GrampaSwood Praise the Sun! (talk) (contribs) 11:13, 16 February 2024 (UTC)
Ah, alright so what if I show a strangifier first and add a section for the collector's where I only put 1 in but I put disclaimer stating it's x amount of x items and not 1 item for a collector's kit? So video doesn't drag out. God'sWrath (talk) 03:41, 17 February 2024 (UTC)
Just pick a simpler, cheaper chemistry set like in the first video · Ashe (talk) 05:15, 17 February 2024 (UTC)

Upgrade to Premium Gift Upgrade to Premium Gift

I'm not quite sure if this one is necessary User Karmacharger Charger 2.png Karmacharger 9:12 PM 8/24/2014 (PDT)
Nah, probably not unless someone just happens to run upon that item — Wind 19:59, 27 October 2014 (PDT)

Question: Do I need to show I, person giving the premium gift, receive the professor speks?
GrampaSwood (talk) 11:04, 6 September 2019 (UTC)

Yes, that's part of the item's effects. — Wind 23:39, 8 September 2019 (UTC)

I have brought the premium gift to another account, the only issue is that the professor speks is already on my TF2 account, so I would need a third account to receive the speks (while already having premium). It may take a while longer but if anyone else wants to give a crack at it.
BLU Wiki Cap.png | s | GrampaSwood Praise the Sun! (talk) (contribs) 21:36, 12 November 2023 (UTC)

Something Special For Someone Special Something Special For Someone Special (Tool)

Pictogram wait.png This demonstration has been reserved: Mediarch User Mediarch PFP.pngTalkMy Edits 00:29, 2 May 2024 (UTC)

Old discussion (2019)

Hi. I know this item is quite expensive for someone to make a demonstration, but I was thinking, a video showcasing how the item works (which the purchaser's choose they person), and then, on the same video, showing the chosen player's screen perspective, showing the option to accept the proposal, and after that, showing the notification on the Main Menu for the accepted proposal.
Considering the high cost that would be making this demonstration, I wonder if Valve could gives us a hand and supply one for our demonstrations purposes, as long we delete both rings after doing the full video.
It seems that the process is mostly the same as the Gift Wrap, but I have no idea how are the things when someone receives that Gift. We also lack a proper Gift Wrap video, apparently. User Gabrielwoj Signature Icon.png - User Gabrielwoj Signature 1.pngUser Gabrielwoj Signature 2.png - User Gabrielwoj Signature 3.png 19:26, 16 July 2019 (UTC)

Keep dreaming, valve won't even fix server issues much less give us free items. If you are planning to make a demonstration though, better ask windpower for some super detailed instructions to make sure it's right the first time. Naleksuh (talk) 21:37, 18 July 2019 (UTC)
Well, they have the ability to both give and delete items, it could work? Yes. Will it happen? We don't know. If there's anything we can do, is ask for someone who plans on buying one legitimately and asking them for help. Last time that the item got in 50% off, a lot of people bought one, so. User Gabrielwoj Signature Icon.png - User Gabrielwoj Signature 1.pngUser Gabrielwoj Signature 2.png - User Gabrielwoj Signature 3.png 20:01, 19 July 2019 (UTC)
If you give it some time, I could save up to get it and try to make it.
GrampaSwood (talk) 20:16, 19 July 2019 (UTC)
I offer to give a 50 USD Steam gift card to anyone who has already gotten an item demonstration video approved and uploaded in order to make this demonstration, and then another 50 USD Steam gift card upon video approval. I'm not sure what the price of the item is in other currencies but I'll also match that if possible as long as it's not too much more expensive. Please make sure to record both sides (sender account and receiver account). — Wind 23:00, 21 July 2019 (UTC)
Well, I guess we should start discussing how should it be done. Firstly, I think the Gifter should be named "Scout" and the Recipient be "Miss Pauling". Scout has the Scout avatar (184x184 version from Steam), while Miss Pauling can use this. I think the name could be something along what Scout would say, my suggestion, name it as "You are really frickin' sweet". That'd go nice, eh?
Secondly, I don't know who's going to be the Recipient. Should we create a Steam account just for that, or should we rely with another Video Demonstration Creator to do a collab? User Gabrielwoj Signature Icon.png - User Gabrielwoj Signature 1.pngUser Gabrielwoj Signature 2.png - User Gabrielwoj Signature 3.png 23:55, 21 July 2019 (UTC)

well how about we can hit two birds with one store and do the ring and the Upgrade to Premium Gift from the same two account?, First the two account would demostrate the Upgrade to Premium Gift which the sender should buy it from the store and send to the receiver who don't have premium. them Recycle the same account to do the ring. We could make a story out of it as well from friendship when a user gifted the premium to the other use then after few days they both got engaged via the sender would give the ring. It won't end up a awkward situation. but for this situation we need 4 people to do the ring tho 2 sender reciever, 2 regular tf2 player to recieved the message one in the tf2 main menu and the other while in-gameJomarcenter (talk) 14:27, 28 August 2019 (UTC)
That's a cute story, but let's keep the demonstration to just one item (the ring), not the Upgrade to Premium Gift on top of it. — Wind 22:17, 1 September 2019 (UTC)
I don't know what you're talking about, wind. Story time is clearly more important than the actual video. (but in all seriousness the two accounts would be okay to reuse right?) Naleksuh (talk) 04:52, 4 September 2019 (UTC)
Yeah, sure, it would just be two separate videos — Wind 23:39, 8 September 2019 (UTC)

I kind of thought the role playing names were unnnecessary to begin with, and could also cause confusion as to whether or not those texts always appear in game. But if WP or thed feels that's the best way to do it without commercializing it then oh well for me.
The two steam accounts would be kinda hard to sync up (and would also be a waste of $100), i'm willing to be proposed to if no one else will :) Naleksuh (talk) 01:06, 25 July 2019 (UTC)
No need for roleplaying. It's cool if you want to do it but totally optional. — Wind 06:26, 29 July 2019 (UTC)

Mannpower Powerup King.png Mannpower powerups

Pictogram comment.png Demonstrate all powerups.

Pictogram comment.png Show you can switch to the Grappling Hook under the effects of the Knockout powerup.

Hello, I had a question about preforming/recording this demonstration. Mannpower has a domination mechanic (Not to be confused with dominations), this mechanic works by when a player has many more kills than other players on the enemy team, and so that player gets nerfs on their power ups. I'm guessing I would have to demonstrate this in the video, however I do not know how to activate it. I have not been able to activate this on myself in tr_karma, however even if I did, the player who is dominating does not get the message on their screen showing that they are dominating. The only effects the player who is dominating sees is they are marked for death if they have a power up, and a nerf on that power up for that player. I don't know how I would go about demonstrating the effects of domination mechanic, considering the viewer wouldn't know that being marked for death with a power up means you are dominating. If I were to get the domination mechanic to work, should I just show the class as marked for death, or something else? Andrew360 Edit icon.png Taunt Rancho Relaxo.png 01:51, 12 July 2022 (UTC)

This does sound hard to demonstrate. If you enable third-person mode, do you see the skull icon above the player's head in the 3D world (not on the HUD)? If so, here's a structure that might work:
  • Spawn enough enemies on the map such that you can reach domination status, and still have enough enemies left over to show that the effect isn't about killing *all* other enemies.
  • Start the demonstration in first-person mode.
  • Switch to third-person mode.
  • Kill enough enemies such that domination status appears.
  • Highlight the correlation between the third-person skull icon and the HUD one, for example by zooming in on both at once, or drawing a red box around both or something.

Now you've established that "skull on HUD" = "having killed enough enemies".

Now, demonstrate each powerup one by one. For each powerup, do a split-screen, with the left being non-dominating, and the right being already-in-dominating status. Pick up the powerup on both clips and demonstrate the effect. The skull icon being visible on the clip on the right should be enough of a hint that this is the cause. If not obvious enough, you can draw attention to it at the beginning of the clip, such as by drawing a red box over it or something.

Hope this helps. I suggest doing a test demo with just one or two powerups demonstrated and posting it here first before doing all the work it would take to get this all done for all powerups, as there are a lot. (Perhaps each powerup should have its own video? That's a separate question...)

Wind 21:39, 31 July 2022 (UTC)

I might try my hand at this, but only after I finish my other demonstrations and receive feedback and corrections for them. Po1yb1ank (talk) 23:56, 14 December 2023 (UTC)

Secret Saxton Secret Saxton

Pictogram wait.png This demonstration has been reserved: CheddarTalk 16:07, 27 April 2024 (UTC)
I don't think it's very needed, but since it seems very simple, I can do it · Ashe (talk) 05:13, 16 December 2023 (UTC)

Won't you need another person since they are only delivered to players while playing on a server? Cheddar (talk) 08:18, 16 December 2023 (UTC)
To add on, maybe have it filmed from the perspective of the gift being sent, and have the perspective of the recipient? Cheddar (talk) 08:19, 16 December 2023 (UTC)
I could help with this one, I can do most days after 22:00 CEST Po1yb1ank (talk) 15:29, 16 December 2023 (UTC)
@Po1yb1ank we appreciate your enthusiasm, but before doing this, please complete the KGB video first. I can wait · Ashe (talk) 17:45, 16 December 2023 (UTC)
Sure thing, I've just been trying to edit it and the fist bump videos, expect them both in the coming days. Po1yb1ank (talk) 21:34, 16 December 2023 (UTC)
I might delay doing the KGB taunt until the new year, I was going through the files and all of them have bots dropping the Smissmas presents, so expect the KGB to be completed later than expected. Po1yb1ank (talk) 13:55, 20 December 2023 (UTC)

──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── I'm still up for making this demonstration, I would need a lovely assistant to help out with it. Cheddar (talk) 18:24, 21 January 2024 (UTC)

IF you still need an assist I could help some time just let me know Mediarch (talk) 23:43, 12 March 2024 (UTC)
Yeah still need a hand with it, the only problem is getting a way to join one another because using create server won't make it joinable, I think there some other stuff you gotta do.
CheddarTalk 07:53, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
pretty sure You should be able to use https://na.serveme.tf/ to temporarily rent a server. That's what a lot of the competitive teams use for matches. If that doesn't work I could ask around and know a few people that might have their own servers we could borrow Mediarch (talk) 08:49, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
Here is the demo feedback needed!
CheddarTalk 17:30, 27 April 2024 (UTC)
Here is a newer version!
CheddarTalk 19:51, 28 April 2024 (UTC)

Action

Spellbook Magazine Spellbook Magazine

Pictogram comment.png Demonstrate all Magic spells with the Stock (Normal quality) version equipped.

Pictogram comment.png Maybe include this one on the Magic spells page, other spellbook variants are not needed (Fancy and Diary).
Suggestion: Use tf_test_spellindex to always get a specific spell · Ashe (talk) 21:19, 28 January 2024 (UTC)

Fancy Spellbook Fancy Spellbook

Pictogram comment.png Same as above, with the exception that the particle effects that emit on the hand are different.

Fireproof Secret Diary Fireproof Secret Diary

Pictogram comment.png Same as above, with the exception that the particle effects that emit on the hand are different.

Kritz or Treat Canteen Kritz or Treat Canteen

Heavyhumiliation.png Match outcomes

Pictogram comment.png Current one does not show front, crouching, running, etc, at all angles.

So there's a bit of a problem with showing the other angles with this demonstration, as you can't actually rotate the camera. Despite it being in third person, you cannot change the angle of the camera nor use +left or +right to make only the camera move. Any attempt to move the camera either doesn't work or makes the character move along with the camera. My original plan for this demonstration was the following:

  • Show a split screen with a player on RED team on one screen and player on BLU team on the other screen
    • The RED player would capture the intelligence on 2Fort, and the other screen would show the BLU player in humiliation after they lose
      • This part would repeat for each class
  • It would then cut to tr_karma where I would rotate the camera around the class when they're standing, crouching, running, etc
  • After this I would move on to the next class until all of them are done

However I can't do this because I can't rotate the camera, does anyone have any ideas on how to rotate or have other ideas of how to demonstration and show the different angles?
Andrew360 Edit icon.png Taunt Rancho Relaxo.png 22:47, 6 February 2023 (UTC)

How about just use the RED player to see the BLU humiliation animation. Like:
RED player is the main camera, BLU player is a bot/a smaller pip/split screen in the video
  1. BLU player stands beside the intel point
  2. RED player captures the intel and win the game
  3. BLU player enters humiliation
  4. RED player look at the BLU player
  5. BLU player moves around to show off the humiliation animation.
I feel like this also shows off the concept of "match outcomes", make the whole story connected via one team wins and see another team loses with humiliation animations. Do we have to use tr_karma map for demonstration? Is this demonstration video about "match outcomes" or "humiliation animations"?--AlexT 03:19, 7 February 2023 (UTC)
Simply using thirdperson_mayamode it would be possible to show off these animations from a stationary angle (turning your character rather than camera, although tr_karma/tr_target have no winning objective, so you'd need a different map for it (I suggest Thunder Mountain and standing in first BLU's spawn so it's still somewhat related to the tr_target map, using mp_bonusroundtime to extend the time at the end and just capping the first point).
GrampaSwood (talk) 11:01, 7 February 2023 (UTC)
I'm a bit confused on what you mean on the capping part, as you say to stay in BLU spawn, but also cap the point to win which would make BLU would win and RED would be in humiliation. Do you mean to make the time run out so RED wins instead?
Andrew360 Edit icon.png Taunt Rancho Relaxo.png 23:24, 7 February 2023 (UTC)
Either works. Just any way to make the classes go into the humiliation pose. I personally wouldn't mind it that much if RED was in BLU spawn, but it's up to you.
GrampaSwood (talk) 12:33, 8 February 2023 (UTC)
I went in game to test out thirdperson_mayamode, and it does not work, as for some reason the losing animation isn't considered as in "thirdperson" by the game I think. Does anyone else have any other ideas? Only other way I can think of is using SourceTV, however I don't know how to set that up.
Andrew360 Edit icon.png Taunt Rancho Relaxo.png 01:15, 12 February 2023 (UTC)

Need to be redone

Crusader's Crossbow Crusader's Crossbow

Pictogram comment.png Ubercharge gain rate is reduced in the same way that the Medi Gun's healing (and therefore, Ubercharge build rate) is - it is based on the last time the target was in combat.

Pictogram comment.png Does not show that if you try to heal up an enemy Spy, Über is not built.

Pictogram comment.png Does not show that if you heal an enemy player through a Pyro's reflect, Über is built.

I removed the clip from the previous demonstration when the medic is building his übercharge with the crossbow, the actual changes make it way too long. VideoThedop (talk) 14:44, 11 September 2019 (UTC)

The picture-in-picture clip is too large and covers the center of the main video's vision. So when the heavy/spy turns to see the medic, it just doesn't show up on the screen. Please decrease the size of the picture-in-picture — Wind 00:38, 16 September 2019 (UTC)
Second tryThedop (talk) 06:45, 25 September 2019 (UTC)
The Minigun is still hiding the medic when he's firing... — Wind 00:07, 30 September 2019 (UTC)
*sigh* Thedop's demonstration has been in hiatus for two years. Maybe I can make my own demonstration if Thedop doesn't mind. — Exaskliri (they/them) (talk | contribs) 06:43, 14 April 2022 (UTC)
Demonstration reservations are only valid for 2 weeks. If the reservation tag remains on a video and no action has happened since, you can ignore the reservation and replace it with a reservation of your own. — Wind 00:33, 24 April 2022 (UTC)
Oh, and by the way, don't forget to add a demonstration of healing afterburn (probably the most common type of status effect). Qwertyxp2000 (talk) 23:17, 16 June 2022 (UTC)
Definitely doable for making an entry about using Crossbow at point blank range to both hit enemies and heal teammates. Qwertyxp2000 (talk) 21:06, 25 June 2022 (UTC)

Dalokohs Bar Dalokohs Bar

Pictogram wait.png This demonstration has been reserved: Mediarch User Mediarch PFP.pngTalkMy Edits 16:18, 19 April 2024 (UTC) Pictogram comment.png The model now included the bite mark, the plate model added

As mentioned on the weapon's page, the overheal bug is still effective since JI and i'm not sure if it's temporary or not. - Thedop 19:11, 20 Obtober 2018 (UTC+1)

Got this video finished, just need 1 more scene with Thedop.
Edit on 27/6/2020: Same thing applies
GrampaSwood (talk) 13:12, 9 February 2020 (UTC)
The video files are on a different PC now, so unlikely I'll ever bother to retrieve them. Someone else can do them at some point.
BLU Wiki Cap.png | s | GrampaSwood Praise the Sun! (talk) (contribs) 21:36, 12 November 2023 (UTC)

A demonstration of the Dalokohs bar https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F8lOulgqmZ4 Wimmer 23:01, 1 December 2023 (GMT+1)

Looks good.
BLU Wiki Cap.png | s | GrampaSwood Praise the Sun! (talk) (contribs) 12:37, 2 December 2023 (UTC)
In the loadout scene the heavy is not holding the chocolate. You could also increase the volume by 50%. Everything else is good · Ashe (talk) 05:31, 17 February 2024 (UTC)

Here's V1 of the Dalokohs bar demo Mediarch User Mediarch PFP.pngTalkMy Edits 22:57, 20 April 2024 (UTC)

Not sure if it's a bit picky, but I personally think that the recharge scene should involve Heavy eating chocolate off cooldown, so it will show how many chocolates Heavy can eat before the Sandvich recharges. Qwertyxp2000 (talk) 22:07, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
chocolatev2 with more chocolate eatingMediarch User Mediarch PFP.pngTalkMy Edits 22:53, 22 April 2024 (UTC)

Enforcer Enforcer

Note: Future redos won't have to do as many status effect clips as the previous video. - Thedop 19:11, 20 October 2018 (UTC+1)

Fishcake Fishcake

Pictogram wait.png This demonstration has been reserved: Mediarch User Mediarch PFP.pngTalkMy Edits 16:15, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

Pictogram comment.png The model now included the bite mark, the plate model added

See Dalokohs Bar. - Thedop 10:39, 12 October 2018 (UTC+1)

Got this video finished, just need 1 more scene with Thedop.
Edit on 27/6/2020: Same thing applies
GrampaSwood (talk) 13:12, 9 February 2020 (UTC)

Here is my version of the Fishcake weapon demonstration https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ym8r-gSEm10 - Wimmer 4:46, 25 November 2023 (GMT+1)

You don't need to spin the Heavy around in the Loadout menu, simply hover over the weapon then press escape once you feel like the viewer has had enough time to read the description. When the Soldier fires, you are also getting healed by the Medic at the same time. There is a command to only have bots with a specific weapon fire, not sure what the parameter for the Rocket Launcher is, but using that command bound to a key would be better as it wouldn't temporarily have you healed by the Medic. Alternatively, try to stand in a position where the Medic won't hit you when he heals.
It seems like the clip for dropping the Fishcake on the ground is missing, it's meant to demonstrate that picking it up yourself while injured doesn't heal you. It's also not necessary to use voice lines, no need to yell for Medic or say thanks. Although a nice touch, it makes the video feel more like a cartoonish animation video than a demonstration. When the clip with the Medic starts, ideally you would have an unbitten Fishcake, and when the clip of the Soldier starts ideally you'd have max ammo (so 4 loaded, 20 reserve). When killing the Heavy, make sure your hit/killsound is off and that you look at the ammo pack he drops before walking over it. Currently, it looks like walking over a dropped Fishcake gives you health. Also a minor nitpick, friendly classes should be called "Friendly Classname". So rather than "Medic", it should be "Friendly Medic".
I like the inspect after eating it, that's not smth that's been done before IIRC but it's a nice touch.
BLU Wiki Cap.png | s | GrampaSwood Praise the Sun! (talk) (contribs) 12:12, 25 November 2023 (UTC)
Thanks for the verifications, I'll make sure to fix all of these issues. And I do too think it's worth inspecting the item after eating it, especially with how the fishcake never had a bit model before.
Wimmer 12:14, 28 November 2023 (GMT+1)
Here is the new version of the Fishcake weapon demonstration with the suggested changes https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Md1n6ei8Z1M
Wimmer 14:48, 28 November 2023 (GMT+1)
In the loadout menu, your mouse should be over the Fishcake the entire time (this can be easily fixed, it only requires editing so no entire redo). The only thing that's missing is a clip of the Medic being on fire and being extinguished (you can skip the Medic walking over it, you can just make it so the Medic is on fire and then you throw it directly at him. Otherwise it requires 2 players). Other than that, it looks good to me, especially the transition between the first clip and the second clip. That must have taken a long time to set up, though do note that it's not entirely necessary if you do feel like it's too much effort, so don't worry about doing that each transition.
BLU Wiki Cap.png | s | GrampaSwood Praise the Sun! (talk) (contribs) 14:04, 28 November 2023 (UTC)
Here is the new version of the Fishcake weapon demonstration with the new changes https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xFnrRS-ihbY
Wimmer 21:22, 29 November 2023 (GMT+1)
Yeah looks good, although I swear in previous clips you were damaged when you picked up the Fishcake that was dropped on the floor. If you are going to re-record that, perhaps reload your Rocket Launcher beforehand to make sure it shows you get healed but no ammo. It also doesn't show off the Scout's 25 extra HP from dropped lunchbox items.
BLU Wiki Cap.png | s | GrampaSwood Praise the Sun! (talk) (contribs) 20:39, 29 November 2023 (UTC)
Added the reload for Soldier and the scout scene https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OKHJxhkDWxQ
Wimmer 23:42, 29 November 2023 (GMT+1)
I just realised I forgot to disable the Killsound again, I’ll have to modify that
Wimmer 12:12, 30 November 2023 (GMT+1)
New revision with no killsounds https://youtu.be/tOotHamBl2s
Wimmer 00:45, 1 December 2023 (GMT+1)
Seems like you're not injured during the clips where you kill the Heavy, other than that I don't see any issues.
BLU Wiki Cap.png | s | GrampaSwood Praise the Sun! (talk) (contribs) 00:37, 1 December 2023 (UTC)
Final edit of the Fishcake Demonstration video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kTVlybWCIf4
Wimmer 22:06, 1 December 2023 (GMT+1)

────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────Looks good to me.
BLU Wiki Cap.png | s | GrampaSwood Praise the Sun! (talk) (contribs) 12:37, 2 December 2023 (UTC)

Looks good. Send the link· Ashe (talk) 17:49, 17 February 2024 (UTC)

Fishcakev1Mediarch User Mediarch PFP.pngTalkMy Edits 20:25, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

Should I also include a comparison of how fast it recharges compared to the normal Sandvich? Would just be a quick little sided by side. Mediarch User Mediarch PFP.pngTalkMy Edits 00:12, 20 April 2024 (UTC)
Yes.
BLU Wiki Cap.png | s | GrampaSwood Praise the Sun! (talk) (contribs) 08:41, 20 April 2024 (UTC)
Here's V2 with the sandvich comparison Mediarch User Mediarch PFP.pngTalkMy Edits 22:55, 20 April 2024 (UTC)
Likewise with the Chocolate comment, I sorta believe it would be a good idea to have Heavy eat the fishcake off cooldown just to show how many fishcakes he can eat before the Sandvich recharges. Qwertyxp2000 (talk) 22:11, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
fishcake V3Mediarch User Mediarch PFP.pngTalkMy Edits 22:57, 22 April 2024 (UTC)

Gloves of Running Urgently Gloves of Running Urgently

Pictogram comment.png Show the hidden (?) functionality with Dalakohs Bar/Fishcake.

Pictogram comment.png Have a section dedicated to see if it's faster to run with the GRU at a certain point + eating the Dalokhs vs. not using the GRU.

GRU has a hidden (?) functionality with the chocolate bar which can regenerate all the health lost upon eating. Not shown on the demonstration video, should it be? Video about the functionality. I am also not sure if this should be a thing on the Daloks/Fishcake video or GRU (or both). User Gabrielwoj Signature Icon.png - User Gabrielwoj Signature 1.pngUser Gabrielwoj Signature 2.png - User Gabrielwoj Signature 3.png 14:29, 14 August 2021 (UTC)

It's most likely a glitch and not intended. Yes, it's been out since forever, but so are other glitches out there, and these videos typically don't demonstrate these, in order to avoid a redo in case valve ever fixes them (lol, I know). — Wind 05:03, 17 September 2021 (UTC)

Holiday Punch Holiday Punch

Pictogram comment.png Does not demonstrate that disguised spies do not laugh from Holiday Punch.

Pictogram comment.png Does not demonstrate interaction between cloaked spies and Holiday Punch crits.

I kind of felt Holiday Punch could possibly be redone such that it demonstrates its interaction with cloaked and disguised spies. Qwertyxp2000 (talk) 08:11, 17 March 2020 (UTC)

Not very practical, but sure, if anyone's up for it — Wind 04:11, 24 April 2020 (UTC)
Not sure if I have to create a new section for the Holiday Punch or add information on an already existing one, but there's several things that probably should also be demonstrated:
Pictogram comment.png Demonstrate that enemies underwater doesn't laugh on the back / critical hits, which therefore, they don't receive damage (The map used for demonstrations does not have water, though)
Pictogram comment.png Demonstrate that punching an enemy at the back / doing a critical hit on an enemy that is jumping / is on the air, has no effect, and does no damage
Pictogram comment.png Demonstrate that it's possible to tickle enemies that are being Ubercharged, possibly include both the patient and the Medic being tickled
  • Tickle the patient first, show that it's still in the effects of Uber, and tickle the Medic second, that would probably be more ideal, so it shows that when a Medic is tickled, his target loses the healing / ubercharge
  • Perhaps also demonstrate the Quick-Fix ubercharge, since it mentions it blocks "movement-impairing effects", which isn't the case for the Holiday Punch (I'm pretty sure you can still get tickled with the Quick-Fix uber)
Pictogram comment.png Demonstrate that a Scout with the effects of Bonk! can be tickled
Pictogram comment.png Demonstrate that a Soldier with the Battalion's Backup active, as well his teammates receiving the Backup effect, can still be tickled
A few other ones that I am unsure about:
Pictogram comment.png Demonstrate that it's not possible to tickle robots and giant robots on MVM (I don't think we often make MVM-related stuff on these demonstrations, unless it's an unique mechanic like the Projectile Shield)
Pictogram comment.png Demonstrate that an enemy who is taunting does not get tickled, and that it receives no damage on critical hits Headphones style when? - User Gabrielwoj Signature 1.pngUser Gabrielwoj Signature 2.png - User Gabrielwoj Signature 3.png 04:23, 24 April 2022 (UTC)
The tr_karma_rc1 map has water (see Sydney Sleeper demonstration here). I use that map for demonstrations, as it is preferred (according to the Weapon Demonstration page). — Exaskliri (they/them) (talk | contribs) 09:23, 24 April 2022 (UTC)
No to the Quick-Fix + Bonk + Battalion's Backup things; as the project page states, non-stock item interactions are usually not demonstrated, in order to avoid having a full explosion of weapon interactions to demonstrate. The Quick Fix one also sounds like a bug, so usually that isn't worth demonstrating either because it has marginal utility and may eventually get patched, which would just create more video work later down the line. But all the other points are good to demonstrate, so +1 that a redo is in order for this one — Wind 04:49, 12 May 2022 (UTC)

I have an idea on how the new video might be represented:

Part 1: The Main Gang (Pyro, Soldier, Medic, Spy)

  • Do the same actions as was done in the original video

Part 2: Basic Interactions Do the same actions as was done in the original video, demonstrating Kritzkrieg on Soldier (via friendly Medic) and Jarate on Demoman (via friendly Sniper), plus another for Medic interactions.

Part 2a:

  1. Approach friendly Kritzkrieg Medic, who has full charge
  2. Get charged with the Kritzkrieg buff
  3. Keep punching the enemy Soldier until the buff wears off
  4. Punch again while the buff is off, and keep doing it until the Soldier dies

Part 2b:

  1. Approach friendly Sniper holding Jarate
  2. Let the Sniper throw Jarate at the enemy Demoman
  3. Attack the Demoman normally while he is Jarated
  4. Attack the Demoman from behind while he is Jarated
  5. Kill the Demoman normally again while he is Jarated

Part 2c:

  1. (This is where the new stuff begins) Approach an enemy Medic who is healing a friendly enemy Scout with his Medi Gun
  2. Attack the Scout from the front and behind
  3. Enemy Medic activate Medi Gun invulnerability
  4. Do the same as Step 2 onto Scout except while Übercharged
  5. Do the same as Step 4 except on Medic

Part 3: Versus Mittens Heavy

  1. Approach the enemy Mittens Heavy
  2. Attack the Mittens Heavy with your Holiday Punch. Watch him laugh.
  3. Let the Mittens Heavy attack you with his Holiday Punch. Watch yourself laugh.
  4. Mittens Heavy will swap out Holiday Punch for Minigun.
  5. Attack the Heavy with your Holiday Punch.
  6. Swap your Holiday Punch for the Shotgun
  7. Mittens Heavy will swap out Minigun for Holiday Punch
  8. Let the Mittens Heavy attack you with his Holiday Punch.
  9. (This is where the new stuff begins) Jump, and while mid-air let the Mittens Heavy attack you with his Holiday Punch. There should be no laugh.
  10. Go behind the Mitten Heavy's back
  11. Let the Mittens Heavy jump, and attack the Mittens Heavy with your Holiday Punch. There should be no laugh.

Part 4: Spy Interactions View from the Heavy's and Spy's points of view, with a smaller video on the top-right (or something like that) for the Spy's point of view.

  1. Approach the enemy Spy
  2. Let the enemy Spy cloak
  3. Attack the Spy with your Holiday Punch from behind. There should be no laugh.
  4. Let the enemy Spy uncloak and disguise as any class (maybe the Heavy again)
  5. Attack the Spy with your Holiday Punch from behind. There should be no laugh.

Part 5: Taunts and Water

  1. Let the enemy Engineer taunt from his Shotgun. It should be the one where he dances around.
  2. While the enemy Engineer is taunting, attack him from behind with the Holiday Punch. There should be no laugh.
  3. Repeat Steps 1 and 2 except attack him from the front.
  4. The enemy Engineer runs to the water. Follow him into the water.
  5. Attack him from behind with the Holiday Punch. There should be no laugh.

Part 6: Robots

  1. Approach an enemy Robot, preferably the Holiday Punch Heavy Robot.
  2. Attack him with your Holiday Punch from the front, and then attack him from behind. There should be no laugh.

Qwertyxp2000 (talk) 02:49, 8 June 2022 (UTC) Qwertyxp2000 (talk) 02:51, 8 June 2022 (UTC) Qwertyxp2000 (talk) 10:08, 8 June 2022 (UTC)

Very detailed, nice. — Wind 22:48, 19 June 2022 (UTC)
By the way, I also think that it would be helpful to add a section dedicating to observing a duration comparison for all Schadenfreude taunts. I have a feeling that the length of the taunt has an impact on gameplay of the Holiday Punch. So maybe we could do a section where 9 Holiday Punch Heavies simultaneously attack one of each class, which demonstrates the time it would take to get out of the forced animation. Qwertyxp2000 (talk) 01:41, 22 June 2022 (UTC)
Might be cool if only for the comedy of it all. — Wind 21:39, 31 July 2022 (UTC)
On "Part 4 - Let the enemy Spy uncloak and disguise as any class (maybe the Heavy again)", why not make the Spy disguise as the Heavy, and make sure that the Holiday Punch is active? The Spy won't be able to laugh, but I wonder if you (the player), would laugh. In case that happens, then it would be important to also showcase trying to punch the Spy from behind without having him with the Holiday Punch active. Headphones style when? - User Gabrielwoj Signature 1.pngUser Gabrielwoj Signature 2.png - User Gabrielwoj Signature 3.png 03:19, 18 February 2023 (UTC)
Actually, never mind. For some reason I thought you also laughed with who you just punched that is also wearing the mittens (it commonly happens when both Heavies hold their left clicks after being tickled). But, the Spy wearing the Holiday Punch may be the best scenario here, so it shows that the disguise is not lost (although make sure to show also without the mittens active, and, when the mittens is active for Spy, punch him from the back, then punch him from the front). Headphones style when? - User Gabrielwoj Signature 1.pngUser Gabrielwoj Signature 2.png - User Gabrielwoj Signature 3.png 13:08, 18 February 2023 (UTC)

Original Original

Pictogram wait.png This demonstration has been reserved: MudkipOnYT (talk) 18:23, 5 April 2024 (UTC)

Old Reservation (5th January 2024)

Pictogram comment.png Missing new reload sound I'd say this is an incredibly low priority one, may not even be worth redoing.
GrampaSwood (talk) 11:23, 17 January 2023 (UTC)

I hope I've done this correctly, I am just beginning to get to work setting up to film my demonstration — MudkipOnYT (talk) 18:23, 5 April 2024 (UTC)

Here is the link to my finished demonstration, I noticed other users who uploaded to Google Drive being told by the Moderators that their videos were in 30FPS. This one is at 60FPS, it just doesn't play at 60FPS in the Google Drive embedded player, it must be downloaded. Awaiting feedback! — MudkipOnYT (talk) 12:10, 6 April 2024 (UTC)

In the firing angle demonstrations, wait for about 3 seconds before commencing the firing. The rightwards angle demonstration is a bit too quick. Same with the frontal angle demonstration. Also, for the rocket jumping demonstration, don't wiggle around the screen so much during those idle phases; 1:29-1:31 are quite noticeably obvious. Qwertyxp2000 (talk) 22:03, 22 April 2024 (UTC)

Yeah I notice all of that now, can just go and re-record it at some point, I also interrupted the reload animation at the beginning. - MudkipOnYT (talk) 10:05, 23 April 2024 (UTC)

Power Up Canteen Power Up Canteen

Pictogram comment.png Doesn't show Canteen Specialist upgrades like Battery Canteens demo does

I feel like I can do a demonstration for this one. But my canteen is a crafted version so it has my username on it. Is that acceptable ? Kaezle (talk) 04:21, 25 August 2019 (UTC)

If you right click on it you should be able to remove that. Naleksuh (talk) 06:22, 25 August 2019 (UTC)
I think the stock version (Normal quality) should be used over the Unique one, considering all players have it. User Gabrielwoj Signature Icon.png - User Gabrielwoj Signature 1.pngUser Gabrielwoj Signature 2.png - User Gabrielwoj Signature 3.png 04:23, 14 August 2021 (UTC)

Sandvich Sandvich

Pictogram comment.png Show that a dropped plate doesn't heal

Hinaomi recommended this, so might as well try it. I would be up to make it if it's a valid reason GrampaSwood (talk) 12:02, 13 September 2019 (UTC)

Not sure I follow. You mean that picking up a dropped plate restocks the sandvich? That's already demonstrated... — Wind 00:38, 16 September 2019 (UTC)
Show that picking up a sandvich that's dropped via mouse2 doesn't heal.
GrampaSwood (talk) 05:30, 16 September 2019 (UTC)
Oh OK, yeah. Might replace the existing pickup from full health then, so that it doesn't make the clip longer. — Wind 04:28, 23 September 2019 (UTC)
Sure. Yes, please replace the existing pickup. — Wind 04:11, 24 April 2020 (UTC)
Just talked on the IRC channel today (log) and GrampaSwood willingly relinquished the reservation for me. I am gonna focus on my reservations first, though. — Exaskliri (they/them) (talk | contribs) 15:54, 18 April 2022 (UTC)

Self-Aware Beauty Mark Self-Aware Beauty Mark

Pictogram wait.png This demonstration has been reserved: KingK (talk) 04:16, 6 January 2024 (UTC)

Pictogram comment.png Updated description. (Also handy for putting out a fire)

Pictogram comment.png Extinguish an ally reduces the cooldown by 20%

A funny bug but i think i better waiting for Valve to fix it. - Thedop 10:35, 12 October 2018 (UTC+1)

Hey there, I decided I'd help out on this Hopefully around Jan 8-9 would be where I have everything for this demonstration. KingK (talk) 04:16, 6 January 2024 (UTC)

Alright I got it all right here.

Video - KingK (talk) 03:51, 10 January 2024 (UTC)

Seems like your graphics settings aren't on the max, the windows on tr_karma also seem to be bugged. For the first clip, your kill sound should be turned off. For the second clip, make sure to switch all the bots back to the Shotgun. For the third clip, the clip is quite laggy and the sound suddenly increases halfway through. Fourth clip looks fine, albeit with some quality issues as mentioned before. For the first Spy clip, make sure to wait until he's fully invisible to throw the Jarate on him. Splitting up the cloaked and disguised Spy clip like this is better imo, rather than having it be one clip like the original. In the clip where you extinguish 3 teammates, it's fine to just use a single Heavy for that rather than 3 teammates. Maybe 3 clips at the same time would also be suitable for this: one to show off no extinguish, one to show off 1 extinguish, and one to show off extinguishing 2 teammates. It would show that 1 ally extinguished and 2 allies extinguished equally reduces the cooldown.
Other than that, remember to stand still between each clip. It seems like this was most notable on the clip with you and the Heavy being extinguished. The minimum acceptable video quality would be 1080p 60fps, perhaps recording only at that resolution rather than 4k will help with running the game a bit smoother, as currently some clips are very laggy even on 1080p.
BLU Wiki Cap.png | s | GrampaSwood Praise the Sun! (talk) (contribs) 11:48, 10 January 2024 (UTC)


Aight will get working on it, Thanks Grampa Swood KingK (talk) 11:52, 10 January 2024 (UTC)
Here's the newly updated video
Video
KingK (talk) 15:54, 12 January 2024 (UTC)
The video still looks laggy. It was not recorded at 60 fps. Also your antialiasing settings are still low. Use 4x or 8x.
The video still has some problems. General: You wait too much between clips. When using half/third width clips don't disabled the HUD. I know that sometimes the elements look out of place but that can be fixed by editing the hud. First clip: The jar being misplaced is not your fault, but I think I can send a fix here. Second clip: The demoman should hit his 2 pipes instead of trying to kill the medic with rollers. 4th clip: I think you recorded the clips with normal width. Use half-width. 5th clip: The spy clips are now similar to the mad milk video. That's good, however, don't separate the spy clips. Record the clip in one shot. 6th clip: wait a bit before extinguishing yourself and the heavy. 7th clip: again, don't hide the hud. Final clip: It still shows the match hud bar. You can fix this by reloading the hud using hud_reloadscheme. · Ashe (talk) 22:30, 24 January 2024 (UTC)


Chargin' Targe Chargin' Targe, Tide Turner Tide Turner, and Splendid Screen Splendid Screen

Should these be redone to show that they remove debuffs such as Jarate, bleeding, afterburn, etc.? If so, which effects should I specifically show?
GrampaSwood (talk) 08:31, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

Pictogram tick.png Yes, the effects that should show are just some of them, not all
  • Soaking, Jarate is preferable as it make the screen yellow tint.
  • Fire, simple burn from Flamethrower.
  • Bleeding, from Southern Hospitality?
  • Mark for death, from Fan O'War
I think those are all. User Hinaomi Hinaomi-sig.png Rikka Takanashi (talk) • (contributions) 12:47, 25 June 2020 (UTC)
Yes, that would all be good. — Wind 05:44, 8 July 2020 (UTC)

Quick-Fix Quick-Fix

Old reservation (29 April 2021)

Pictogram comment.png What I've done in addition to the existing one (the timestamp in the parentheses are the old/new ones):

  1. (1:14/1:24) On the first scene demonstrating the Quick-Fix's basic functions, I did the same as the old one, plus damaging myself and the patient Heavy while being Ubered, demonstrating that the Quick-Fix's Uber doesn't reduce incoming damage. I also damaged myself (the Medic) twice instead of once.
  2. (2:09/2:39) When demonstrating the Quick-Fix's heal rate in comparison to the stock Medi Gun, while mostly the same, I used a recently-injured Heavy, so that the heal rate (for each medigun) is at the slowest. I used an offscreen pistol Engineer (hence why the starting HP is 14), teleport commands, and r_cleardecals, so it should look neat.
  3. (2:17/3:01) I demonstrated the knockback immunity from Quick-Fix's Uber the same way, but now there's health and Ubercharge HUD.
  4. (2:56/3:47) I did the "mirror blast jumping" part outdoors, although it might not look neat. I'm sorry.
  5. (3:26/4:17) I demonstrated crit healing (after the recipient doesn't take damage for 10-15 seconds) with the Quick-Fix's Uber in addition to the non-Uber Quick-Fix. Yes, the 3x healing rate Uber stacks with the crit heal.
  6. (3:53/6:56) I redid the "Uber build rate comparison on different HP threshold" because the old one didn't have the Quick-Fix as the second healing beam, hence it doesn't explain if the second healing beam alone would slow down the Quick-Fix's Uber build rate (the Quick-Fix has 125% maximum overheal, lower than the usual Uber build rate penalty at 142.5% overheal).
  7. (4:26/5:06) I demonstrated the Quick-Fix maximum overheal limit and decay rate on Scout vs. Heavy as well as comparing it to the stock Medi Gun's overheal in addition to the "maintain overheal above 125%" that the old video demonstrated. For the last part, I only used one Heavy, as the aforementioned added demonstrations make up for that, and I maintained the overheal above and below 142.5% overheal (Uber build rate comparison) as well as healing the Heavy when the overheal goes down below 125%.
  8. (4:46/8:32) For the "healing disguised Spy" part, I have two enemy bots (Heavy and Demoman) so that the Spy doesn't disguise as a Demoman named "Medic". Both bots are injured, so my disguise will be healed, too.

Pictogram comment.png The new ones (the timestamps refer to the new demonstration):

  1. (7:39) Demonstrating stock Medi Gun's Uber vs. Quick-Fix's Uber (the latter doesn't reduce incoming damage, but prevents incoming knockback unlike the former) and the fact that they have same duration (barring the stock's lingering effect). Also has Quick-Fix's Uber without incoming rockets to demonstrate that the duration is the same.
  2. (7:58) Ubering multiple teammates at the same time drain faster than Ubering a single teammate alone. Also, only the aforementioned Ubering multiple teammates drains Uber faster; Ubering an injured teammate drains at the same rate as Ubering a healthy teammate (fully overhealed) and not healing someone when Ubered.


I did the "Uber draining when dropped" part, but both mediguns show "Dropped by Exaskliri." Is it allowed? I gave the bot the Quick-Fix via bot_mirror command. https://youtu.be/0ZlwvHZrjdU Exaskliri (talk) 04:27, 30 April 2021 (UTC)
Nothing you can do about that, that's just how it shows. Shouldn't be too noticeable and there's no point in going through the trouble of setting up a server and getting a buddy to join only so it doesn't show. Though the confusion on where the quick-fix actually is should be redone so it doesn't look like you are looking for it.
GrampaSwood (talk) 10:37, 30 April 2021 (UTC)
  1. I just did the "mirroring the explosive jump" part, though I don't think it looks neat. Is it OK? https://youtu.be/NQo1iTxQSEA Exaskliri (talk) 03:31, 3 May 2021 (UTC)
  2. Just finished the whole demonstration. I just need to attach the segments. Exaskliri (talk) 15:15, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
  3. Just finished uploading re-uploading the new Quick-Fix demonstration video to YouTube and MediaFire.
  1. https://youtu.be/hj5FuFVFV2U
  2. https://www.mediafire.com/file/kx7kbaik5vwpwyj/Quick-Fix_Weapon_Demonstration_Video.mp4/file
Exaskliri (talk) 08:08, 6 May 2021 (UTC)
I don't see any problems, except for the the explosive jumps scenes, that looks a bit laggy, and in general the quality, that seems to be more like a rendering issue, though shouldn't be a problem · Ashe (talk) 04:40, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
I'm fixing the video right now (quieting projector sound, incorrect fade out time, etc.). Gotta reupload soon. Exaskliri (talk) 10:39, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
Just uploaded the fixed version of the Quick-Fix demonstration video. Exaskliri (talk) 13:01, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
This is spectacular work, thanks a lot! Just two comments, none of which should require a lot of work to fix hopefully:
  • Video quality also seems to have the same artifacts as the Winger demonstration. Please increase the bitrate. Unlike the Winger demonstration, I understand that a demonstration this long could take forever and use a lot of bandwidth to upload twice (to YouTube and to MediaFire), so if the video quality is approved for the Winger demonstration is good enough and you've used the same settings for re-rendering this demonstration, feel free to just upload the higher-quality Quick Fix demonstration to MediaFire only, in order to avoid having to upload the huge file twice.
  • There is an audio/video glitch at 9:56 - 9:57.

Wind 05:46, 10 May 2021 (UTC)

You finally responded! Thank you so much. The video/audio glitch is from the .dem recording, so I had to conduct another play, especially since it involves another player. Exaskliri (talk) 15:12, 10 May 2021 (UTC)
Alright. Can you upload the new version? — Wind 04:40, 1 June 2021 (UTC)

Blutsauger Blutsauger

Pictogram wait.png This demonstration has been reserved: Mediarch User Mediarch PFP.pngTalkMy Edits 10:42, 12 May 2024 (UTC)

Here's the Blutsauger demonstration ready for feedback. Shows the updated description and I also included a clip to show that you don't gain health from buildings. Mediarch User Mediarch PFP.pngTalkMy Edits 19:28, 13 May 2024 (UTC)

Old discussion (2021)

Update on this. Video seems to require multiple people. Wasn't able to find anyone else to help me. If you want to help me record this please ping me. Naleksuh (talk) 19:53, 21 December 2021 (UTC)

Eyelander Eyelander, Nessie's Nine Iron Nessie's Nine Iron, Horseless Headless Horsemann's Headtaker Horseless Headless Horsemann's Headtaker, and Half-Zatoichi Half-Zatoichi

Pictogram comment.png Show slower deploy and holster comparision.

The other swords shows the comparision except for the above ones. ThunderRunner (talk) 08:54, 18 December 2021 (UTC)

Pictogram wait.png This demonstration has been reserved: ----User Slimyboi500 Logo.png User Slimyboi500 Profile.jpg Talk Speech voice.png Contribs Wrench IMG.png Steam Steam tray.png 04:32, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

I think I am capable of doing demonstrations again. As someone on the wiki that doesn't get credited for shit, I think these might upper my reputation.
----User Slimyboi500 Logo.png User Slimyboi500 Profile.jpg Talk Speech voice.png Contribs Wrench IMG.png Steam Steam tray.png 04:32, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

What edits/contributions have you made that you did not get credited for?
BLU Wiki Cap.png | s | GrampaSwood Praise the Sun! (talk) (contribs) 05:13, 19 April 2024 (UTC)
Oh, I dunno, this, this, and especially these.
----User Slimyboi500 Logo.png User Slimyboi500 Profile.jpg Talk Speech voice.png Contribs Wrench IMG.png Steam Steam tray.png 15:57, 19 April 2024 (UTC)
On all of these edits you are credited just fine. How did you expect to be credited?
BLU Wiki Cap.png | s | GrampaSwood Praise the Sun! (talk) (contribs) 16:00, 19 April 2024 (UTC)
Wikicheivments? I never got another one since November. Mediarch is getting all the fame and glory. I just don't wanna think I'm the odd one out.
----User Slimyboi500 Logo.png User Slimyboi500 Profile.jpg Talk Speech voice.png Contribs Wrench IMG.png Steam Steam tray.png 16:15, 19 April 2024 (UTC)
Slimy, you don't need Wikichievements on a wiki. The point of it is to inform, not be popular. Also, Mediarch has been constantly doing this sort of thing, pretty consistently too. Just look at the recent changes. Besides, your contributions don't warrant most of the stuff Medi has, n' you've already got a decent amount of Wikichieves. — payn. Beggar's Bazooka.png Talk Speech voice.png Contribs Market Gardener.png 00:02, 13 May 2024 (UTC)

Kritzkrieg Kritzkrieg

Pictogram comment.png Does not show that Kritz Über does not prevent capping or carrying the Intelligence.

Pictogram comment.png Does not show health of patients, overheal is not shown properly.

I think I'll take this one! Greenfox (talk) 20:51, 22 October 2022 (UTC)

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GrampaSwood (talk) 20:56, 22 October 2022 (UTC)

sorry! Greenfox (talk) 06:27, 23 October 2022 (UTC)

Trading demonstration

Pictogram comment.png Doesn't show the "Requires Steam Guard verification" window

We can make the same Medic and Heavy conversation joke.

Alright, it seems that Steam won't allow me to change the Trading window language for some reason, so i'm leaving this to a English-speaker user · Ashe (talk) 04:55, 27 February 2022 (UTC)
I don't think we should redo this just for this reason; there may be more UI changes to that process in the future, and it seems unnecessary. — Wind 00:33, 24 April 2022 (UTC)

Ullapool Caber Ullapool Caber

Pictogram wait.png This demonstration has been reserved: CheddarTalk 11:04, 20 April 2024 (UTC)

  • Pictogram comment.png Does not demonstrate activation on cloaked enemy Spies
  • Pictogram comment.png Does not demonstrate activation on disguised enemy Spies

This video does not need a desperate rework, but it is worth adding some extra stuff here and there. Specifically the cloak and disguise interactions.

Part 1: The Main Gang (Pyro, Soldier, Medic)

  1. Attack the Pyro with a full caber. Watch the explosion and Demoman saying "Kablooey!" or similar.
  2. After landing, kill the Pyro with the now empty caber.
  3. Kill the Soldier with consecutive hits of the empty caber.
  4. Kill the Medic with consecutive hits of the empty caber.
  5. Taunt

Part 2: Blast Radius Tests + Caber Jumping

Do the same as current video's Part 2 except friendly Scout is removed. And some more added too.

  1. Approach between an enemy Engineer and an enemy Sniper. [Note: Friendly Scout is moved to the next Act]
  2. Look at both of them while standing still.
  3. Look down at the ground and then swing the caber.
  4. Crouch, look down, and then swing the caber. Watch the explosion affect the enemy players.
  5. Look at the enemy players again.
  6. Run to the Resupply room, look at the sign, and enter the room.
  7. Touch the Resupply cabinet.
  8. Repeat Step 4.
  9. Run to the Resupply room and immediately go to the Resupply cabinet and out.
  10. Approach a high location (in the current video, it is a bunch of crates)
  11. Jump and strike the wall of the high location to get to the top of it.

Part 3: Player Interactions

First part is a single enemy Spy.

Part 3a: Cloaked Spy

  1. Let the Spy cloak
  2. Approach cloaked Spy and attack with the full caber. If the facts are right, an explosion should trigger.
  3. Refresh the screen to the next scene...

There are two players on the side, a friendly Scout and an enemy Spy.

Part 3b: Disguised Spy

  1. Let the Spy disguise as a friendly Scout.
  2. Approach friendly Scout and attack with the full caber. Nothing should happen.
  3. Now go to the disguised Spy and repeat Step 3. The difference is that the explosion should trigger.

Part 4: Deployment and Holstering

  • Do the same set of actions as the current video, or in any appropriate method.

Qwertyxp2000 (talk) 02:23, 22 June 2022 (UTC) Qwertyxp2000 (talk) 02:31, 22 June 2022 (UTC)

Good list, but agree that this isn't worth redoing if it's only for those extra interactions. — Wind 21:39, 31 July 2022 (UTC)
Here is the video, feedback needed!
CheddarTalk 11:03, 4 May 2024 (UTC)

RED Teleporter.png Teleporters

Pictogram comment.png Needs to show the updated metal cost.

Cleaner's Carbine Cleaner's Carbine

Pictogram wait.png This demonstration has been reserved: CheddarTalk 13:59, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

Pictogram comment.png Needs a firing speed comparison to stock, does not show CRIKEY! gain from damaging buildings and disguised Spies.
I may need a bit of time to obtain a Cleaner's Carbine for this video. This will be solved once Scrap.TF is working again. Scorchshotgaming (talk) 06:45, 19 April 2024 (UTC)
Here's the video, feedback needed!
CheddarTalk 17:51, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
What about the disguised spies? or did I miss it somewhere in the video? Mediarch User Mediarch PFP.pngTalkMy Edits 18:11, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
I forgot
CheddarTalk 18:12, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
Here is a newer version!
CheddarTalk 19:11, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

Maul Maul, Homewrecker Homewrecker

Pictogram comment.png Does not show damage against players vs stock

Pictogram wait.png This demonstration has been reserved: Mediarch User Mediarch PFP.pngTalkMy Edits 17:41, 26 March 2024 (UTC)

Here's the Maul Mediarch User Mediarch PFP.pngTalkMy Edits 00:19, 27 March 2024 (UTC)

Here's Maul v2 Mediarch User Mediarch PFP.pngTalkMy Edits 20:20, 8 April 2024 (UTC)

Here's the Homewrecker Mediarch User Mediarch PFP.pngTalkMy Edits 00:19, 27 March 2024 (UTC)

It seems like the combattext batching was still on, as the damage numbers get added up. You don't have to be named "Friendly Engineer" for the Dispenser clip, it can just be your own name.
In the Homewrecker one specifically: Try not to rotate around a target too much when hitting them (this is mostly when hitting the Pyro at the start, where all 3 subsequent hits are from a different angle). Both look good otherwise.
BLU Wiki Cap.png | s | GrampaSwood Praise the Sun! (talk) (contribs) 20:40, 7 April 2024 (UTC)
Here's Homewrecka v2 Mediarch User Mediarch PFP.pngTalkMy Edits 20:20, 8 April 2024 (UTC)

Amputator Amputator

Pictogram comment.png Does not show damage against players vs stock

I recorded most of this but medic's health regen is completely random as far I can tell. I can't get the clips to line up so I can properly demonstrate the increased health regen so I'm removing my reservation for the time being. I might try again some other time to brute force it but it doesn't seem promising Mediarch User Mediarch PFP.pngTalkMy Edits 18:34, 28 March 2024 (UTC)

Not having them be synced up is fine as long as it's clear that the Amputator goes faster.
BLU Wiki Cap.png | s | GrampaSwood Praise the Sun! (talk) (contribs) 18:55, 28 March 2024 (UTC)
That's not the issue I'm having. It's the part where you're showing that it only regenerates faster while you are actively holding the amputator itself. The original video has a 3-way splitscreen with the left side being Amputator, the middle having the Amputator equipped but switched to hold the medi gun, and the right holding the stock bonesaw. I can't the medi gun side and bonesaw side to sync up so it looks like one of them is slightly faster than the other. One of the two is always slightly faster or slower which makes it really difficult to properly demonstrate that part. Even the actual health you gain each tick is slightly variable from what I can tell. I had 6 different clips and synched them all up and they all finished at different times and would have different health values despite all other variables being equal. All 6 clips started at the same time but all 6 of them have different HP https://imgur.com/3NVTjSG. My only thought for a fix is I could try to cheat and essentially just crop the health bar from one of the clips and paste it onto the other so that way they are perfectly synced up. It'd have to be a seamless edit though which is pretty hard to do. Mediarch User Mediarch PFP.pngTalkMy Edits 19:15, 28 March 2024 (UTC)

Direct Hit Direct Hit

Pictogram comment.png Does not show splash damage size compared to stock. No damage comparison to stock. You can airshot a soldier that rocket jumps.

Pomson 6000 Pomson 6000

Pictogram comment.png October 21, 2016 Patch - Fixed the Pomson 6000 playing the Shotgun reload sound.

Thermal Thruster Thermal Thruster

Pictogram comment.png Video doesn't show the increased knockback while using the item This video was created when the rule was just "at least 30 fps". Now, the knockback clips are a bit random and doesn't properly show the actual effect. Maybe the demonstrator can show it by placing a pyro aiming upwards and make it airblast them. The clips would be in badwater roof, the left clip without the thermal just falling off from it and the right clip, jumping with the thermal onto the pyro. · Ashe (talk) 17:18, 28 March 2024 (UTC)

Team Fortress Classic

TFC Crowbar.PNG Crowbar (Classic)

Pictogram comment.png Haven't been able to find a proper bot program. Will need another players in order to successfully demonstrate

Questions and Proposals

Note: This section is for questions and proposals that aren't specific to a single weapon. If you think a demo ought to be remade, then make an entry for it in the Need to be Redone section above and it will be dealt with.

Item icon Voodoo-Cursed Heavy Soul.png Zombie Infection Zombies

Pictogram comment.png Zombies have different abillities than normal players.

Hello, I am Slimyboi500. I will be doing the demostrations for each zombie in Zombie Infection.

Why, you may ask? Unlike normal gamemodes, the BLU team (or in this case, the zombies), have different abillities than normal:

They also have different effects, like different amounts of health and speed. The zombies only can use melee attacks however, which makes it harder to kill.

Let me know if it's a good idea or not.


Slimyboi500 (talk) User Slimyboi500 Profile.jpg 17:35, 27 October 2023 (UTC)

If we're doing this, I think there should be a demonstration made for each gamemode, rather than just Zombie Infection. Although ZI has gotten an introduction video now that shows off the mode pretty well, so I don't believe it is necessary.
BLU Wiki Cap.png | s | GrampaSwood Praise the Sun! (talk) (contribs) 17:53, 27 October 2023 (UTC)
The introduction is missing a few key details, such as not showing the Soldier or Heavy's abilities. I feel like it would be a good idea. Such as like there should be a demo for VSH.
----Slimyboi500 (talk) User Slimyboi500 Profile.jpg 18:12, 27 October 2023 (UTC)
It doesn't show each ability, but it does overall show the gamemode very well and I think does a sufficient job. Although, again, if we are making demonstrations for this, I think one should be made for each gamemode.
BLU Wiki Cap.png | s | GrampaSwood Praise the Sun! (talk) (contribs) 18:18, 27 October 2023 (UTC)
Yes, I think there should be one for each gamemode.
----Slimyboi500 (talk) User Slimyboi500 Profile.jpg 19:41, 27 October 2023 (UTC)
Remember to also indent your signature and to keep your answers above the hidden comment.
BLU Wiki Cap.png | s | GrampaSwood Praise the Sun! (talk) (contribs) 19:51, 27 October 2023 (UTC)
Still, is that a yes on the idea?
----Slimyboi500 (talk) User Slimyboi500 Profile.jpg 20:28, 27 October 2023 (UTC)

──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── I'm voting no, but other people might be in favour of it. Profiteer was, for example, so I'm waiting for more input.
BLU Wiki Cap.png | s | GrampaSwood Praise the Sun! (talk) (contribs) 20:35, 27 October 2023 (UTC)

I vote yes for the Zombie Infection zombies (as well Saxton Hale on VSH), but not for other gamemodes. I consider these zombies kinda like "new weapons". They all have different abilities, passives, first-person views, etc. I'm not quite sure if there needs to be a demonstration regarding the human part (only if demonstrated humans being infected by zombies upon dying), and perhaps the only thing related to humans would be that zombies drop small healthkits (because it's related to them, the zombies). A showcase of each zombie class, its ability, and some human interactions like being infected by them, and, killing them as humans, would probably be a nifty video package. Headphones style when? - User Gabrielwoj Signature 1.pngUser Gabrielwoj Signature 2.png - User Gabrielwoj Signature 3.png 22:34, 27 October 2023 (UTC)
I'm all in for ZI and VSH demos, but a significant issue would be future balance patches to the modes. Each balance patch so far has significantly changed the zombies, and if we had already made the demo, we would have to redo the video for each one of these updates, which would result in multiple uploads of the same video over and over again and a lot of work (and given how we can barely keep up with the current demos in the backlog...). Maybe instead of a gamemode demonstration, we could simply do a "zombie class demonstration" ("Zombie Sniper", etc.) and a "mechanics demonstration" (weapon modifications, gamemode-specific elements). This way, if a zombie is changed, we wouldn't have to redo the entire video. — Tark 22:51, 27 October 2023 (UTC)
I will do the demo as soon as I get enough votes for it
----Slimyboi500 (talk) User Slimyboi500 Profile.jpg 18:42, 15 November 2023 (UTC)
Voting yes for the demo, ZI and VSH seems stable...for now at leastProfiteer(奸商)the tryhard (talk) 11:05, 21 November 2023 (UTC)

Flippin' Awesome and Skullcracker in VSH

When Saxton Hale used Flippin' Awesome or Skullcracker, the other mercenary participating the taunt will be taunt killed, is this something worth remaking the taunt demonstration? Or we just keep the current taunt demonstration, but add this feature into the VSH demonstration? --AlexT 18:31, 22 July 2023 (UTC)

I think a VSH demonstration would be better, as it may be confusing why Saxton Hale is suddenly there when he's not normally playable.
BLU Wiki Cap.png | s | GrampaSwood (talk) 19:52, 22 July 2023 (UTC)
Yes, a demonstration regarding VSH, showing all Hale's abilities, and some unique taunt interactions, would be the most ideal (including his default taunt kill). That one would probably be more lengthy, and some things would probably require to be discussed beforehand. Like Mercs being able to wall climb (which is applied to even stock weaponry), should that be shown too? Headphones style when? - User Gabrielwoj Signature 1.pngUser Gabrielwoj Signature 2.png - User Gabrielwoj Signature 3.png 20:31, 22 July 2023 (UTC)
I think maybe a demonstration for every game mode could be in order, as a sort of semi-tutorial created by us. A VSH one would fit that too.
BLU Wiki Cap.png | s | GrampaSwood (talk) 08:33, 23 July 2023 (UTC)

Configs for partner taunt demonstrations

I've created some configs for partner taunt demonstrations. It automatically spawns 2 bots, places you in the starting position, and has another small command ("teleport") to input after it to teleport both the bots to the right position. It binds H and J to the bots performing taunts, H = BLU bot does taunt, J = RED bot does taunt. They're all class-specific and automatically kick any other bots there. There's no way (right now) that I know of to update the weaponref.zip, so if anyone needs it I can forward you a zip of the files. Just let me know on my talk page (or if you know of a way to update weaponref).
BLU Wiki Cap.png | s | GrampaSwood Praise the Sun! (talk) (contribs) 23:56, 13 November 2023 (UTC)

New tr_karma and requirements

I've been working in the past week in fixing some issues tr_karma has and some new guidelines. The changes to tr_karma are:

  • Increased lightmap quality in the interiors
  • Fixed a "checkerboard" texture in the gas cylinder, the ceiling fan and the cardboard boxes
  • Added chat scripts to enable noclip (!n in the chat), regenerate (!r), spawn an ammo pack (!am) and enable demonstration server settings (!demo) (these commands are available also in the new tr_karma_basic.cfg)
  • Fixed the func_buttons in the wood targets only working once, thus displaying the hit particle once
  • Removed Tough Break cases and the Gargoyle prop as they didn't fit the ambience
  • Removed the mining cart prop in the rails due of a lighting issue
  • Repacked the map, reducing the map size from ~91 MB to ~18 MB

The link to the download and new proposed guidelines are here. Check them out and give feedback · Ashe (talk) 16:38, 13 December 2023 (UTC)

Issues with tr_krama and tr_krama_event

When I start a local server and load tr_krama/tr_krama_event, it won't load (probably because it doesn't exsit) lights/shadow making the map super bright, this only happens on 2 krama maps, I tried to download a modified version of tr_krama on workshop and it worked perfectly, pretty sure something is missing in the map file from weaponref.zip.Profiteer the tryhard (talk|contribute) 05:59, 10 March 2024 (UTC)

It works fine on my end.
BLU Wiki Cap.png | s | GrampaSwood Praise the Sun! (talk) (contribs) 10:11, 10 March 2024 (UTC)
Join the IRC to help you @Profiteer · Ashe (talk) 21:33, 16 March 2024 (UTC)
@Profiteer do you have HDR enabled? · Ashe (talk) 16:50, 23 March 2024 (UTC)

Question about 2D and 3D player models

A question I've had for a while about weapon demonstrations is, is there a specific reason that 2D player images in the HUD are standard rather than the 3D player model (be it for performance, consistency, or any other reason), also considering that 3D player models are enabled by default? The 3D model could also generally be more useful for certain cosmetics or demonstrations. Scorchshotgaming (talk) 16:47, 8 April 2024 (UTC)

they're buggy, eat up frame rate on a lot of systems, and aren't really necessary. I don't think they really add anything of value to the videos so my vote would be to keep them disabled. Mediarch User Mediarch PFP.pngTalkMy Edits 16:50, 8 April 2024 (UTC)
As far as I know, there's no real reason that we prefer one over the other. 3D models are enabled by default, but it may have just been something that was done for a while and became the standard.
BLU Wiki Cap.png | s | GrampaSwood Praise the Sun! (talk) (contribs) 16:57, 8 April 2024 (UTC)
Fair point, it would obviously be a massive hassle to redo every demonstration with a 2D player model. Also for some people I suppose keeping them off improves framerate. Scorchshotgaming (talk) 19:59, 8 April 2024 (UTC)
I'm pretty sure it's because when they were added to the game, it caused lag to a lot of people. The recent 64 bits update fixed the 3d character using a lot of cpu and now it shouldn't affect fps (although i guess modern pcs didn't have issue with it anyways) · Ashe (talk) 15:21, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

Mastercomfig question

I am planning to make a demonstration, and the recommended requirements state that Mastercomfig High/Ultra is preferrable. However, I highly doubt my PC is able to run Mastercomfig High/Ultra properly and all the other high graphics settings. Is it acceptable if I use Mastercomfig Medium High and use average graphics settings? May look slightly lower quality than a typical reservation, but I don't think much will be affected. Scorchshotgaming (talk) 21:44, 18 April 2024 (UTC)

Ultra is preferable, but setting your game to all max settings should suffice.
BLU Wiki Cap.png | s | GrampaSwood Praise the Sun! (talk) (contribs) 21:45, 18 April 2024 (UTC)
Well, I'll look through some configurations, and if I find one that looks high enough quality without sacrificing my computer's performance I will use it (my PC is not too high spec, to say the least). My demonstration is for the Cleaner's Carbine; once you review it tell me your thoughts. For me this is especially important because I will need to screen record this too. Scorchshotgaming (talk) 21:48, 18 April 2024 (UTC)