Talk:Scout

knockback or knock back?

This is pretty petty, but in the Force-A-Nature's notes it says 'knockback'. Shouldn't that be knock back, or even Knock back? Are knockback and knock back interchangeable? Atty 13:05, 17 January 2011 (UTC)

Knockback sounds and looks better in my opinion, but wait until someone else says something about it --ScoutKast 20:47, 29 July 2011 (PDT)

I'd say "knockback" sounds better as well. Best let sleeping dogs lie. Ryftt 00:53, 14 August 2011 (PDT)

I agree knockback is good for now but im sure someone will want it changed sooner or later... Twili Sparkle 10:37, 29 September 2012 (PDT)

I agree that you didn't look about this discussion was ended about 1 year. Hinaomi (talk) • (contributions) 12:30, 29 September 2012 (PDT)

I don't see how it makes a difference. LinusBro 17:27, 7 April 2013 (PDT)

Knockback and Knock back are the same thing, just seperated. [[user:DMSomeGuy|DMSomeGuy] 9:34, 7 September 2013 (PDT)

Team Photo Trivia

The Scout's pose in the Team Photo is very similar to his Home Run taunt. Currently, the Scout is the only class to have a Taunt resembling his Team Photo pose. Danton 02:20, 15 July 2010 (UTC)

Why don't you put that in the "Trivia" section of the page then so other people know? Legomaster445 (talk) 20:07, 17 July 2014 (PDT)

Very fast running?

It said very fast running :P just fixed that. — The preceding unsigned comment was added by TheChickenMonkey (talk) • (contribs) 14:22, 7 October 2010

Actually the Discussion page is for people to talk about whether something should or should not be changed or added to the article; changes that you have made should be typed in the Summary section at the Edit page. Also, remember to sign off with the 4 tildes. Tkj 09:22, 29 August 2011 (PDT)

Administrator comic

The BLU Scout did in fact die as revieled in the Adminstrator comic during the war update (second page) in the screen on the bottem left.Yoshisonic 10:12 10/14/10

Considering the number of characters who have died in the "Meet the Team" videos, the various comics and the game itself, this probably isn't the best indicator... Kane.malakos 07:23, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

Even though this relates to the BLU soldier (right?). In meet the spy the Soldier (along with the Heavy) were backstabbed multiple times and the Soldier was still able to wage war and the heavy was able to listen to some Earbuds in the mac update. Gamecrazy009 01:16, 31 October 2010 (UTC)

Much like Kenny in South Park, all Meet the Team characters come back to life in time for the next video (or are replaced). Otherwise, the Soldier, Heavy, Medic, and many others would not be in any videos. Ryftt 00:54, 14 August 2011 (PDT)

It says in Poker Night that the Heavy is blissfully unaware of respawning - he thinks they are bad dreams. I know that's not canon, but still. Also remember that at the end of Meet the Medic there are about 30 BLU Soldiers. You shouldn't assume that there are only one of each class. » Cooper Kid (blether·contreebs) 09:11, 14 August 2011 (PDT)

New Image for Bonk and Crit-a-Cola

Would we like to use these to match the Mad Milk, or keep the cans that are currently being used? Hobolegs 19:29, 16 October 2010 (UTC)

We should, the current icons are our of place since this site switch to Hugo's icons and those two icons do not match Hugo's icons from TF2B. But ultimately this is the admin's call Z Overlord 07:17, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

New York

I personally asked some people who have been to New York and Boston, as well as a couple of Bostonians. Not a single one of them said he was from Boston based on his accent, and all of them said New York.

Someone pointed out that all the classes accents are faked based on stereotypes. Well, someone got their stereotypes mixed up, and now we have a Bostonian with a New York accent.

SalaComMander 02:52, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

I think the Bios are non-cannon to be honest. They were written before the game was out (and looked allot more like a comic book) Allot of them do not match up with the character's in game. Z Overlord 07:12, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

And this is not trivia-worthy? Need I define "trivia"? SalaComMander 08:02, 11 November 2010 (UTC)

I would agree that the Bios might not be Cannon, but there are several references to him being from Boston, most notable the achievement the year to remember which it the the year that the Boston Red Sox one the world series. Another being his you of the term "frickin" which is used by Bostonian and could be a way of chaining the truly Bostonian term "wicked" to be more understanding to people outside of New England. The finale reference that I can think of off the top of my head would be in his "meet the..." video his accent is nasally which I would say is more Bostonian then a New York accent.Schrodingerscat 03:52, 14 November 2010 (UTC)

Irrelevent, irrelevent, and not entirely true. The references to him being from Boston are not the point. He is from Boston, Valve said so, and what they say goes. The problem here is the fact that his accent is that of a New Yorker, not a Bostonian. SalaComMander 06:40, 19 November 2010 (UTC)

Lack of uniformity

Between the English page and a wide number of Scout pages in a different language, there seems to be a huge lack of uniformity, especially with some images, such as this image.

Bacon in a wind tunnel

. Any ideas? --Vaught 04:38, 12 November 2010 (UTC)

New strategy?

Should I add a new strategy to the strategy section?

• Using your melee weapon you can hit enemies quickly and avoid fire with your speed.

Or is it obsolete for the time being because melee isn't as useful?

--Boregano 23:44, 15 November 2010 (UTC)

Using melee is about as useful as any other class, since his damage per hit and low health compensate for the speed. Ryftt 00:58, 14 August 2011 (PDT)

Bonk

The most handsome, adorable, charismatic, cocky person in the entire game. Rong 15:50, 16 November 2010 (UTC)

Rong go away no one likes you- Bpc908 02:46, 3 December 2010 (UTC)

Nah. Rong 08:19, 3 December 2010 (UTC)

This is not relevant to the article. I suggest discussing this on Facepunch or SPUF. -- Pilk _(talk) 08:23, 3 December 2010 (UTC)

You're very mean. Rong 08:37, 3 December 2010 (UTC)

Yes, yes we are. BLUH 17:00, 4 December 2010 (UTC)

Hey guys saw the party was in here CounterTunes 17:02, 4 December 2010 (UTC)

Remind me how is this relevant. Oh yeah, by the way, love how the comments are posted Thespy 22:41, 5 December 2010 (UTC)

Can we just delete this bit altogether? Pierow 09:21, 16 March 2011 (UTC)

No Thespy 18:50, 20 March 2011 (UTC)

Poker Night suit card

The card of the scout in this game is the same suits for the clubs and spades aswell ? I was just very curious because I didn't get the game and this is killing me. I wanted to know to get more info on this game and make my personal research in other values other than the card alone and merge it with personal info. Do anyone have this info please ? If the jack of clubs tf2 deck card is a scout in both the spade and club suits ? --Copo 06:43, 12 February 2011 (UTC)

Sandman Ammo

Currently, an infinity sign is listed as the "ammo carried" (for the ball). Since the only number for the actual ammo sign is 1 or 0, should it be listed as one? Also, since its not technically ammo, should it just say N/A as well?

BASEBALLFURIES 01:11, 14 February 2011 (UTC)

Yes, but it magically recharges. With... magic... GeminiViRiS Talk Contribs 01:15, 14 February 2011 (UTC)

I think that the ball should count as Ammo Loaded, but not Ammo Carried, because as previously stated, it does recharge on its own, unlike most other weapons, which to replenish the Ammo Carried requires an ammo crate or a resupply cabniet. DJNerd 14:23, 4 July 2011 (PDT)

Knock back range

I've been noticing that you have to be about 5 feet away from an enemy to actually have them be shot backwards when fired upon. Does anyone know the exact distance you need to be to put the knock back into effect? GRiM US 02:25, 19 June 2011 (UTC)

"Anyone up for Taco's?"

Well, according to the comics. The Scout likes tacos. Now i dont know if this is actually a trivia thing to add but i just mentioned it :D The Noble Scout _(T/C) 14:53, 19 June 2011 (UTC)

The question should be: Who doesn't like tacos? Ryftt 01:00, 14 August 2011 (PDT)

Weird people. Weirdduder10 14:11:40, 14 October 2012

"Atomizer"

Should the 10 damage on the third jump be labbled as a positive? I know it is on the blog, but is it really a positive attribute? — The preceding unsigned comment was added by MEDUNN (talk) • (contribs)

It is unknown whether that damage will apply to the Scout or others, so we're leaving it as-is. Please sign all your comments on talk pages with ~~~~. Thank you. -- Firestorm 05:23, 22 June 2011 (UTC)

The damage is applied to himself, so it should be a negative Sondii789x 06:59, 27 June 2011 (PDT)

Yeah, why would a third jump be applied to enemies? :| Weirdduder10 11:12, 14 October 2012 (PDT)

#1 fan

The in-game reading for the scout lists "Bonk Boy" as an item in the #1 Fan's item set. The mask from the poster. Just figured it should have a posted pic here.

-First post and I feel like I'm being helpful YAY

Everman 02:46, 24 June 2011 (PDT)

Party like its 2004

You gotta say, "When you kill 2004 people, you must party".

ArabianKnight 17:52, 25 June 2011 (PDT)

well 2004 was a year for any redsox fan to remember(therapist's voice) and thats were we get the term Peter Antonio Filippis 3:25 24 march 2012 (PST)

But... It's currently 1972 in Tf2... So... MY MIND! Plzwork1122 23:39, 14 October 2012 (PDT)

Winger is automatic

The winger is automatic, should I add that to the abilities and trivia? --BsiGio 15:18, 21 July 2011 (PDT)

No, all the weapons are automatic, hold the trigger down and they will keep firing until all the ammo in the weapon is used up, then depending on the reload (if there is one), the user reloads and continues to fire. (The exceptions are the Scattergun, Shotgun, Frontier Justice, and Family Business, if the fire button is held, only one round is loaded, then fired.) DJNerd 20:24, 21 July 2011 (PDT)

Scout's Bloody (Sweaty?) Armpits

My brother noticed today that the Scout has bloody armpits, and he was playing on an official Valve server. I don't often play Scout; has this always been the case? InsanityOnABun 13:12, 5 August 2011 (PDT)

It might have been because he was shot and the random blood splatters happened to be on his armpits. Gross. Ryftt 01:01, 14 August 2011 (PDT)

Missing Gallery Pic

The gallery is missing the jack of clubs card from Poker Night that the Scout is on. SS2R 11:02, 12 September 2011 (PDT)

Done. SS2R 12:13, 13 September 2011 (PDT)

Smissmas Story, scouts name?

In the new smissmass story comic, the blu soldier refers to scout as "Judas", possibly his name? I thought it might just be a "joke" or an insult in refrence to Judas from the 12 apostles, who in similar manner to scout betrays his "friends", so I've yet to add it. EvilHolyGuy 20:37, 15 December 2011 (PST)

Edit: it seems someone already has, so I guess it's pretty much accepted then. EvilHolyGuy 20:39, 15 December 2011 (PST)

The Demoman refers to the Soldier as Brutus Benedict Arnold Judas Bloody Iscariot. I highly doubt this is his real name. Fyahweather 20:42, 15 December 2011 (PST)

That's what I was thinking, it really seemed like more of an insult than anything. *shrug* EvilHolyGuy 20:48, 15 December 2011 (PST)

It's undoubtedly just an insult, as the Scout had just "grassed" on him in court. » Cooper Kid (blether) • (contreebs) 04:05, 16 December 2011 (PST)

No in this context, I think it's possible that the Scout'd name is actually Judas. Smashbrother101 04:17, 17 December 2011 (PST)

I highly doubt it. That was clearly an insult, and if his name was actually Judas, the Soldier is very unlikely to call him that in such a angry situation. —Rocket Ship BBQ(•) 10:46, 17 December 2011 (PST)

No... Judas is the name of the man who turned in Jesus... It's used as a insult for Traders....

Health problem

The scout info box incorrectly shows the scout as having 125 hp when the milkman set is equipped.

The ability changed from Hp to calling card because the scout was stronger than he was supposed to be. Plus you forgot your 4 tildes. ZombieNubMaster (talk) 17:23, 30 January 2014 (PST)

Conspiracy Theory

Guys. It's canon that Scout has eight brothers, right? And there's nine mercs. ...... /cannot be unseen Although it's nigh-impossible they're all related, it's just a fun little coincedence. :P -Chocolate Shotgun 09:16, 4 July 2012 (PDT)

In Meet The Spy, it was revealed that the Spy was having an affair with Scout's Mom... So if you're right and Spy really is one of Scout's siblings, then that's pretty fucked up. And if he's not a sibling, then who's the eighth? Pakaku 19:33, 12 July 2012 (PDT)

I'm afraid to burst your bubbles, but it says Scout is of 8 children, and that he does not have 8 other siblings. Spy could be his father though if you are implying that. Legomaster445 (talk) 19:59, 17 July 2014 (PDT)

Health Problem

The Pretty Boy's Pocket Pistol incorrectly displays 125 health when it should be 140 regular and I checked the Overheal on the 140 scout which comes out to 210 for max overheal. Guardian 21:08, 4 July 2012 (PDT)

It works for me. It shows 140 health, but maybe that's just because I'm using PVHUD. I have no idea what the original hud looks like anymore.GeneStealer 19:44, 12 July 2012 (PDT)

I don't understand the reload of this weapon

He (Scout) is just ejecting a spent shell. Unless he is carrying all 32 rounds in the container, how is this considered reloading? GeneStealer 19:40, 12 July 2012 (PDT)

In the same way that the Sticky Launcher's reload animation doesn't show any new ammunition being added to the weapon, it's considered reloading as it's when the ammo counter at the bottom-right is increased. » Cooper Kid (blether) • (contreebs) 01:55, 13 July 2012 (PDT)

Alright, thanks. GeneStealer 08:02, 13 July 2012 (PDT)

Whenever i look at something like at, i always think that the weapon is creating the ammo, but when it runs out of whatever it needs to create it, then they are all out. Yet i'm still confused :| Weirdduder10 11:17, 14 October 2012 (PDT)

The stickybomb launcher and the scattergun just confuse me. If you look at the ammo counter, you can see that, for the scattergun, you can fire 5.33 whole clips of ammo (i have to thank my computer calculator). How does that gun even hold that much ammo? Same with the stickybomb launcher. Also, in a DB shotgun, you have to remove the bullet shell before you can load in the next bullet. But the scout can load 6 bullets into his DB shotgun without having to remove the shells. He only removes the shells when reloading. ZombieNubMaster (talk) 17:21, 30 January 2014 (PST)

Scout's abilities in MvM

My infos about the innate abilities in MvM were removed because deemed as "strategies". The bit was:

In Mann vs. Machine matches he additionally has a larger money collect range, gains health from said pickups and, upon death, respawns instantly.

I think they fit the article since they refer to the class' abilities, not unlike the double capture rate. Not how one should use them.Kid Of The Century 01:25, 21 August 2012 (PDT)

I think that this all happens because he has a cup of caffeine everyday. seriously, how is scout the weakest and yet still the fastest at doing everything? Well, i think there was one more thing in MvM for scout, is that when you upgrade his speed, it goes up to like, 170%, and stacked with the baby faces blaster, it's almost like he has a charge'n'targe. Weirdduder10 11:19, 14 October 2012 (PDT)

Add the scouts age to bio?

Could someone who knows what their doing add it? — The preceding unsigned comment was added by 1112e (talk) • (contribs) 22:42, 9 September 2012

I assume you're taking his age from the description of the Track Terrorizer? Because that's written in past-tense, so it's not necessarily his current age. » Cooper Kid (blether) • (contreebs) 13:42, 11 September 2012 (PDT)

If i could remember, it said somewhere that scout was 13. Weirdduder10 11:17, 14 October 2012 (PDT)

It should just be trivia. We don't know his exact age, so it would be useless to put it under bio. Bruss48 T C 11:29, 14 October 2012 (PDT)

From the Track Terrorizer description: "...He was kicked off the team after three days when everyone realized he was 23-years-old and also not enrolled in the school." That's the only reference to his age I can find, and even then it still doesn't really say what his current age is. Best to leave it as unknown until some better proof comes along. » Cooper Kid (blether) • (contreebs) 13:28, 14 October 2012 (PDT)

Incorrect BFB ammo count

The weapon list says that the Baby Face's Blaster carries 36 bullets, though it only carries 32, like all the Scout's other shotguns (excluding the Shortstop, which is a pistol/shotgun hybrid). Citizen Shane 14:44, 30 September 2012 (PDT)

 Done, thanks for telling this. Hinaomi (talk) • (contributions) 16:33, 30 September 2012 (PDT)

Scout Description

Who added in the "He has a snarky ""In-you-face" additude, is very rude, and thinks he can do just about everything.""? it sounds like whoever did that kinda hates scout. :| Weirdduder10 11:22, 14 October 2012 (PDT)

If you're trying to say that it's too biased, then I can see why you'd think that. In my opinion, I think that it's fine with me. Bruss48 T C 11:34, 14 October 2012 (PDT)

Yeah, it kinda looks hateful to be exact. Weirdduder10 17:04, 16 October 2012 (PDT)

I meant that the description for Scout now is fine. It doesn't feel hateful to the Scout for me. Bruss48 T C 17:06, 16 October 2012 (PDT)

There used to be a taunt for the scout (you can get it back using reskins) that kinda follows up on the snarky in yo face attitude. He steps his left book back to his right foot, leans back but still keeps his body up, and he waves his hands around like he saying "Come at me bro" ZombieNubMaster (talk) 17:16, 30 January 2014 (PST)

Headset

The RED Scout's Headset is orange but the BLU headset is yellow, when a hat is seen on BLU (eg:Front Runner) the headset is still orange as if it was on RED. Is this from the hat itself or a pic error? TugaMiguelPT -BOOM Headshot 04:16, 15 December 2012 (PST)

This is a problem that have appeared from the hat model itself. Sounds like a problem with the style model though. TNS 04:31, 15 December 2012 (PST)

Im pretty sure that the models for his headset are darker orange on red, as of the color guide that Valve sent for hats. Weirdduder10 07:09, 6 February 2013 (PST)

Scout's Name

On the scout's bio, you can see this: Name: Unknown. I think us, the community, should think of names for the scout. ZombieNubMaster (talk) 17:11, 30 January 2014 (PST)

No. The wiki is for OFFICIAL content. Only valve can come up with the names. Not the community as it is considered speculation. Ashes (talk) 17:32, 30 January 2014 (PST)

The Real Name of the Scout

In the TF2 comic "A Smissmas Story", on page 4, you can see the Soldier yelling "JUDAS!" towards Scout. Could this actually be the Scout's real name? Fawful117 (talk) 07:04, 17 March 2014 (PDT)

We've had many speculations on this, however we're assuming its not as its not really valid proof as of now. It needs to be solid evidence, not speculation. Also to add, If you did a bombing, you wouldn't yell their real name. The scout doesn't name the soldier properly either so its just massive speculation regarding the Scout's name. Better to wait for Valve to announce it properly. Ashes (talk) 07:05, 17 March 2014 (PDT)

Well, we can't really use Soldier as the source for information on this because he isn't too smart, and can be a little delusional sometimes. Legomaster445 (talk) 20:03, 17 July 2014 (PDT)

Isn't the idea that Soldier is calling the Scout "Judas" because he betrayed them as Judas did in the Bible? I'm pretty sure that this has nothing to do with his name in the slightest. CaptainCupcakez (talk) 02:40, 27 July 2014 (PDT)

Soldier has called other characters "Judas" since then for similar reasons. While the idea of that being Scout's name is amusing, it's not got any backing thus far. Although I think a good name would be "Vince Tyler". Harley Quinn hyenaholic (talk) 17:24, 22 September 2016 (PDT)

melee swing time

nowhere on his page does it mention that the scouts melee swings faster than everyone elses. this is pretty important and should be mentioned.

— The preceding unsigned comment was added by DJLO (talk) • (contribs)

We don't note the scout's melee swing is faster is because it varies on the melee weapon he uses. We can't assume its all constant. That and its kind of obvious just by pulling it out and and holding down the left mouse button. Simple comparisons. Ashes (talk) 07:56, 9 April 2014 (PDT)

any aspect of the game is "obvious" if you go into the game and test it yourself. the point of an encyclopedia is to be a source of knowledge /without/ having to test something yourself. the fact that it is based on his the weapon used is a good reason, but it should still be mentioned that a stock scout swings faster. also which weapons slow him down? i didnt know there were any. DJLO (talk) 16:22, 12 May 2014 (PDT)

I think that and much else are already completely covered here and here (second paragraph). Mikado282 (talk) 09:47, 27 July 2014 (PDT)

Scout Weapons - Soda Popper

In the listing for all of the Scout's weapons, the Soda Popper is still listed with the negative attribute "No random Critical hits.". However, as of the patch from the 7th February, the "no random critical hits" attribute was removed (Undocumented though). Someone should correct that. DatWut (talk) 04:23, 25 April 2014 (PDT)

Mad Milk

As seen on the Sniper's page, the jarate Partially nullifies a spy's cloak. The Mad Milk undergoes the same process, however, it is stated that it completely nullifies it, I feel that's not the case, would anyone else agree? Sargent¥ (talk) 16:03, 20 May 2014 (PDT)

Outdated information in Health table

Currently, the table is listing the Pretty Boy's Pocket Pistol on the table, despite its current stats not changing the Scout's base health stat. It looks a little redundant, and I'm too afraid to edit the table myself or without a go-ahead from someone. Does it need to be changed? Bxtros (talk) 20:39, 27 June 2016 (PDT)

 Done Thanks for telling. Rikka Takanashi (talk) • (contributions) 02:01, 28 June 2016 (PDT)

Prinny machete

Why do we have 2 seperate prinny machete's in the weapon table? I see that one is crafted and the other is promotional, but shouldn't we just have ! prinny machete and have it say crafted/promotional like the other weapons? — The preceding unsigned comment was added by Redindy (talk) • (contribs)

Firstly, please remember to sign your posts with four tildes. Secondly, thanks for the report, I just fixed it. -- Dr. Scaphandre 09:59, 4 August 2016 (PDT)