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Talk pages and show preview

Greetings. Please use talk pages only for questions/doubts/etc about the article. If you want to test changes or page creations, please create a sandbox. You can use User:Andrew360/Sandbox for this. Also, Pictogram info.png Please make use of the Show preview button. It gives you a preview of the edit you are making, allowing you to perfect your changes before you save the page. You can edit the whole article by clicking the edit button at the top of the page, which is preferable to editing multiple sections consecutively. Β· Ashe (talk) 16:25, 7 March 2021 (UTC)

Hello Andrew

Keep going, creating/sending/uploading, images to help the wiki. You are the best, never giver up mah boy :D


AuroraBorreal Name.png MaxwellWagner (talk) 21:56, 8 October 2021 (UTC)

HLMV Anti-Alias

I read your message on IRC regarding HLMV, but you already went offline by the time I read it. I suggesting reading this page: HLMV Setup Help and Tricks. Try using the pre-configured dxsupport.cfg to see if it fixes your anti-aliasing issues, if not, try doing the HLMV++ method. Headphones style when? - User Gabrielwoj Signature 1.png β–ͺ User Gabrielwoj Signature 2.png - User Gabrielwoj Signature 3.png 01:25, 26 April 2022 (UTC)

Thanks for seeing my message on IRC, I tried the pre configured dxsupport file which didn't work, and I installed HLMV++ which didn't work. Is there a setting in HLMV++ I need to change to make it work? Andrew360 (talk) 22:33, 26 April 2022 (UTC)

User Andrew360 HLMVissue.png
That screenshot looks fine to me, you can see that the anti-aliasing around the model look fine. Some models show up like that even with high anti-alias settings (the "outside" look smooth but some parts from the "inside" may look jagged, an example being Demoman's model). My suggestion to you is trying out the class models and comparing with other images on the Wiki (make sure to check high-quality pictures made by one of these people: User:Gabrielwoj/HLMV_Setup_Help_and_Tricks#Posing_on_HLMV), specifically the infobox or class gallery pictures. After maxing out the settings on HLMV++, switch back to regular HLMV for doing screenshots for the Wiki. Another theory I have is that your issue may be related to the way you remove the background, as it seems you are using some sort of "feather" mechanism. See Removing background with GIMP section to know how to properly remove backgrounds and making an image transparent.
I was going to take a screenshot of that bomb cart model as a comparison, but I was having invalid textures so I gave up. Headphones style when? - User Gabrielwoj Signature 1.png β–ͺ User Gabrielwoj Signature 2.png - User Gabrielwoj Signature 3.png 12:38, 27 April 2022 (UTC)

Thanks for helping me, I'm 80% sure anti aliasing is working now, honestly I can't tell at this point. I had been using hlmv-transparent for making my images transparent, maybe that's what was causing my images to look feathered, but for this image I used gimp to make it transparent, which I think made it look better. It's crazy how good your HLMV guide is, tons of information and fixes, thank you so much for helping me. Ah! Life o' Riley! 20:51, 27 April 2022 (UTC)

I've spent so long trying to get this cart to look good

Yeah, that could be it. In the past, hlmv-transparent had issues related to images being too "jaggy". Since I never tried the program myself, I don't know if that is still an issue. It's currently linked on the official Help:Cosmetic Images page, I think I'll try it out myself and compare with an image done manually on GIMP and see if it wields the same results. If not, I will probably remove from the page considering it doesn't result the same as doing manually. The page itself could have some info from my page as well. There's a few things I need verify being adding information officially to the page (related to sharing unofficial tools like HLMV++).
Also, your Dry Gulch Gulp image could be transparent too. Images like this one, as well this one, which are also related to something at the bottom of a cosmetic, has been made transparent. Headphones style when? - User Gabrielwoj Signature 1.png β–ͺ User Gabrielwoj Signature 2.png - User Gabrielwoj Signature 3.png 21:44, 27 April 2022 (UTC)

my image creations

Hi!

Because some demonstration videos can not be uploaded due to no people are making thumbnails anymore, I spend some times learning how to use HLMV and making thumbnails with help of Gabrielwoj’s guide. I left a message at Gabrielwojβ€˜s talk page but they seems be on the wiki break now. Can you take a look of them and see if there's anything wrong? They are File:Weapon_Demonstration_thumb_homerunner's_hobby.png and File:Weapon_Demonstration_thumb_mannbulance!.png.

Thanks!

--Alexβ”‹T 04:36, 14 June 2022 (UTC)

Hi, thanks for reaching out to me about your demonstration thumbnails. I'm glad someone else is now making them considering like you said, not too many people are making them anymore. Anyways, I think your thumbnails look pretty good, you have max HLMV settings with anti-aliasing, good lighting and camera angle, and correct thumbnail resolution and template! The only thing I would say that should be changed about the thumbnails is the facial flexing of the Scout and Medic. In the thumbnail, it looks like they're in a default position with the face, where as in other thumbnails you can see some flexing to make the class look happy, smiling, or some other emotion. I would recommend playing around in the flex tab of HLMV with the lip sliders until you can make an emotion. (Also check out Gabrielwoj's facial flexing tab guide). Also keep up the good work with the demonstrations, you've uploaded around half of the Smissmas 2020 and 2021 taunts which is amazing. Andrew360 Taunt Rancho Relaxo.png 13:23, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
Thanks for pointing this out, I thought the face flex is automatically controlled by the taunt, but looks like it's not. I have uploaded new versions of them, hopefully they are good enough to be used as actual thumbnail this time. --Alexβ”‹T 15:50, 14 June 2022 (UTC)

Some map images

Thanks for uploading map sign textures. I have a couple requests, maybe more later.

Bread Space: I was looking for the uploads of the reports that are on the floors of the map. I made a collage of them here: File:Bread Space Reports.png

  • I used this to get some of the maps Storyline.
  • I would like it if some one were to find and upload the textures for those reports as well as the graffiti, and then maybe improve the collage.

Green Cross: After recently spending a week in the Colorado Front Range Metropolitan Region, I would like to see an upload of the Green Cross (Patchouli oil) "First Aid" sign. It is on Swiftwater, but I don't know if that is where it was introduced (That, is, it might be a newer general map sign rather than a Swiftwater sign.

Swiftwater: The textures for the "Plan" Storyline slide show could be uploaded if someone found them in the game files.

(More than I have time to ask about, this morning.)

Thanks again.

M I K A D O 282 βŠ™βŠ™βŠ™βŠ™βŠ™βŠ™ βŠ™βŠ™ βŠ™βŠ™ (Talk with Mikado282 (SM)) | contribs) (Help Wanted!) 12:30, 16 June 2022 (UTC)

Hi. I'll upload these when I'm able to get to my main computer, I'm currently on vacation right now and will get back around Saturday. As for your requests, I know I can find the Swiftwater images. I know the location for all the Swiftwater files and found the images for the plan files, and could probably the First Aid sign as well. For Bread Space, I think I'll be able to find and upload them. For whatever reason, sometimes the textures and models are in the map file itself or some random location in the texture files. It can be a bit tricky to find them, but I'll do my best. Andrew360 Taunt Rancho Relaxo.png 12:46, 16 June 2022 (UTC)
FWIW, User:Luno informed me that they had extracted a bunch of textures for Bread Space (not uploaded yet. :( ). I figure that the two of you should coordinate (so as to not duplicate effort).
M I K A D O 282 βŠ™βŠ™βŠ™βŠ™βŠ™βŠ™ βŠ™βŠ™ βŠ™βŠ™ (Talk with Mikado282 (SM)) | contribs) (Help Wanted!) 23:22, 16 June 2022 (UTC)
Hi. Just uploaded the swift plan images and the first aid sign as well. I added the swift plan images to the map page, but I don't know where to put the first aid sign. If you have any other map image/poster requests, I'd be glad to upload them. Andrew360 Edit icon.png Taunt Rancho Relaxo.png 20:19, 18 June 2022 (UTC)
Thank you!
The first aid sign could go to the regular List of posters, maybe. IDK if it is only on Swiftwater, or if it originated elsewhere or is used elsewhere. My speculation is that its green cross is in reference to "medical" marijuana dispensaries. (which will be eventually used here) (someone could find out). But, even if that is not the case, it has as much of a place on the wiki as File:Doorway clear.jpg.
M I K A D O 282 βŠ™βŠ™βŠ™βŠ™βŠ™βŠ™ βŠ™βŠ™ βŠ™βŠ™ (Talk with Mikado282 (SM)) | contribs) (Help Wanted!) 16:36, 19 June 2022 (UTC)

{{Award Wikichievement}}

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Photo Bomb
Continuously upload and add screenshots to articles.

Gabrielwoj Wikichievement unlocked!
Ever since you started contributing the Wiki, you have been uploading all sorts of imagery. From paint variants, to specific map-specific models (Payloads and Ressuply Lockers), textures related to billboards/signs, as well the contract drawer mugshot for each class. And of course, cosmetic previews, with your latest uploads being great improvements from your older ones.

Headphones style when? - User Gabrielwoj Signature 1.png β–ͺ User Gabrielwoj Signature 2.png - User Gabrielwoj Signature 3.png 16:36, 25 July 2022 (UTC)

Thank you, not only for the achievement but also for helping me with HLMV and giving me tips on images.
Andrew360 Edit icon.png Taunt Rancho Relaxo.png 18:09, 25 July 2022 (UTC)

Addition to the Tailored Terminal Team Colored Images

The Tailored Terminal also includes a team-colored picture of the enemy team Sniper (BLU Sniper on RED, RED Sniper on BLU) found during the Primary Flair animation -- taunttailored_terminal_a1 in the HLMV sequence tab -- would it be possible to take images of this photo, in roughly the same rotation you had the terminal facing, and edit them into the team colored images you uploaded? I imagine the final result would look something like this. I would've taken the images myself, but I can't for the life of me get HLMV to screenshot a paused animation frame, it always jumps back to the start. β€” User ThatHatGuy Signature Icon.png User ThatHatGuy Signature Talk.png User ThatHatGuy Signature Contribs.png 05:34, 10 December 2022 (UTC)

Hmm, I never thought to use HLMV to take the screenshots of it. I first tried to use the textures to take a screenshot of it, but I didn't think it looked that good. But now I tried using HLMV, and I think it looks ok. The texture quality isn't that good for this taunt, but I think the HLMV screenshots are gonna have to do for now.
So thanks for bringing up that idea, I uploaded the RED and BLU sniper photos to the gallery now.
Andrew360 Edit icon.png Taunt Rancho Relaxo.png 16:31, 10 December 2022 (UTC)

Onimann image correction

The Raging Demon style of the Onimann is painted incorrectly. The style is supposed to paint the wig as well as the horns, but your images only painted the horns. They're two separate VMTs, I believe. I tried to fix it, but as I have an NVIDIA graphics card, I'm having a hard time fixing the grey corneas while also matching your lighting. β€” User ThatHatGuy Signature Icon.png User ThatHatGuy Signature Talk.png User ThatHatGuy Signature Contribs.png 11:20, 10 December 2022 (UTC)

Ah sorry, I'll redo those images soon.
Andrew360 Edit icon.png Taunt Rancho Relaxo.png 16:31, 10 December 2022 (UTC)

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Tark Wikichievement unlocked!
Thank you for continually uploading high-quality images for articles. Keep up the gud work!

Media:Demoman_positivevocalization05.wav β€” Tark 23:03, 15 December 2022 (UTC)

Aye, thanks!
Andrew360 Edit icon.png Taunt Rancho Relaxo.png 23:14, 15 December 2022 (UTC)

"This case is going in the bag!"

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Andrew360: "That's a lot of bags."

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Headphones style when? - User Gabrielwoj Signature 1.png β–ͺ User Gabrielwoj Signature 2.png - User Gabrielwoj Signature 3.png 15:38, 2 February 2023 (UTC)

Let it be known to everyone that this is what happens when you load the original model in HLMV.
Andrew360 Edit icon.png Taunt Rancho Relaxo.png 22:21, 2 February 2023 (UTC)

Moustachium Class Gallery

Hey there, thanks so much for your help with the Moustachium weapons so far! The gimmick I've come up with for the weapons is Moustachium Fever, which has the classes exclusively holding their Moustachium weapon, unable to swap away from it. I imagine taunts would still play normally, but the idea is the special moustache is supposed to come with the weapon; so I'd like for the guns to also feature in the class gallery images, along with the moustaches, when possible -- I think it'd sell the gimmick more. β€” User ThatHatGuy Signature Icon.png User ThatHatGuy Signature Talk.png User ThatHatGuy Signature Contribs.png 11:48, 8 February 2023 (UTC)

I would still use the stock counterparts, though. So Moustachium Scattergun as opposed to Moustachium Force-a-Nature (using Scout as an example). Headphones style when? - User Gabrielwoj Signature 1.png β–ͺ User Gabrielwoj Signature 2.png - User Gabrielwoj Signature 3.png 15:10, 8 February 2023 (UTC)

HLMV Problem

Hello! I have an issue using HLMV, I’m trying to make a ripped rider hat picture using HLMV, the issue is: the hat is red, while the model (scout) is blue (I expected my hat to be BLUE while the character is blue) any fixes? Solutions?Falcons (talk) 13:20, 12 February 2023 (UTC)

Hi there. To change the team color of cosmetics/submodels, you'll need to use a program called TFMV. However, there are a few quirks about TFMV which you'll need to keep in mind. Firstly, I strongly recommend reading Gabrielwoj's TFMV section in their HLMV guide, it'll tell you what settings to use and how the program works. Some of the key points are:
  • Enable HWM models
  • Disable TFMV pos/rot settings
  • Make sure the default light values are 0.000000 180.000000 0.000000
  • Enable advanced settings
  • Make sure to disable HLMV antialiasing as soon as you start the program, if you enable it it'll mess up your current settings
  • Enable the background texture and download/extract this to tf/custom
Also note that with this version of TFMV, you'll need to manually change the bodygroups.
Andrew360 Edit icon.png Taunt Rancho Relaxo.png 15:01, 12 February 2023 (UTC)
I understand everything except the "Disable HLMV ANTIALIASING" you mean HLMV++ ANTI ALIASING? And is there any way to disable that?Falcons (talk) 18:14, 12 February 2023 (UTC)
I was talking about the anti aliasing setting in TFMV, don’t disable ++ anti aliasing.
Andrew360 Edit icon.png Taunt Rancho Relaxo.png 18:16, 12 February 2023 (UTC)
Alright done, now I enabled HWM models, background texture, disabled tfmv pos/rot settings, I made sure that the default light values are 0. What's next?Falcons (talk) 18:26, 12 February 2023 (UTC)
Hey Andrew, I tried to change the Scout Skin model to 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 ,6, 7 ,8 ,9 and nothing changes.Falcons (talk) 18:42, 12 February 2023 (UTC)
NEVERMIND!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Thanks Andrew, finally I fixed it!Falcons (talk) 18:49, 12 February 2023 (UTC)
I was about to type out a lengthy message about how to solve it, but I guess you already figured it out lol. If you have any more questions, feel free to add me on Steam or Discord.
Andrew360 Edit icon.png Taunt Rancho Relaxo.png 18:51, 12 February 2023 (UTC)

Winger Demonstration Feedback

Nice demonstration vid. For the damage comparison part, though, I'd like to sync up all gunshots via scripting. I don't play TF2 anymore, so maybe ask Ashe for scripting assistance. Have a nice day. β€” Exaskliri (they/them) (talk | contribs) 20:51, 17 February 2023 (UTC)

"Watch the vedio on the building for 15 sec."

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Create a video for the Weapon Demonstration project which gets added to the official YouTube channel.

Gabrielwoj Wikichievement unlocked!
How have you made 3 Taunt Demonstration videos that got accepted to the official channel, and yet nobody gave you a Wikichievement for them after all this time?
Well, it's time to change that.

Headphones style when? - User Gabrielwoj Signature 1.png β–ͺ User Gabrielwoj Signature 2.png - User Gabrielwoj Signature 3.png 20:44, 19 February 2023 (UTC)

> buy taunt
> press g
> profit

Thanks for the Wikichievement.
Andrew360 Edit icon.png Taunt Rancho Relaxo.png 16:09, 20 February 2023 (UTC)

Corolla Corral Help

You might remember, I'd mentioned before about my other April Fools project, the Corolla Corral taunt. Things are coming along well on the vehicle's model, arms clipping into the door aside. After I've got it completed, would you still be able to take the taunt page screenshot image, and perhaps produce a taunt demonstration video for it?

It needs to be a Genuine taunt, since it's billed as a promotional taunt as part of the joke -- my initial plan to achieve that was to have two videos stitched together: one where you bring up the taunt window, having the Shred Alert in the taunt hotbar, and then splice to a video of having activated the Corolla Corral, and demonstrating it as normal; that way, that the video ends up playing as though you had selected the Corolla Corral taunt all along. Same deal with the loadout screen: you'd superimpose the taunt panel with Genuine Corolla Corral equipped (which again, is the Shred Alert taunt) over video of the Corolla Corral animation playing, (which is the Victory Lap) so it looks like the taunt is activated properly.

I'll provide all the necessary files and things you need for all that to (hopefully) work, including letting you borrow my taunts to record with, if you'd like, if you're able to record and edit it, since you have a better setup for all of this than I do, by the looks of things. β€” User ThatHatGuy Signature Icon.png User ThatHatGuy Signature Talk.png User ThatHatGuy Signature Contribs.png 07:08, 4 March 2023 (UTC)

New "Second Opinion" image

Hello. I appreciate your effort for making a new image for the Second Opinion cosmetic.
However, I personally have one issue with it: I think the Medic is a little cross-eyed. I don't know if it's just me, but I feel it.
Thanks for your attention in advance.
Tiagoquix (talk) 16:49, 28 March 2023 (UTC)

Hi there. It is not possible to change the facial flex for the Second Opinion side of the Medic. This is why I could not change the right eye, which is why it appears cross-eyed.
Andrew360 Edit icon.png Speech typing.png Photo Badge Decal Example.png 17:02, 28 March 2023 (UTC)
All right. Thanks again!
Tiagoquix (talk) 18:54, 28 March 2023 (UTC)

Heartfelt Hero backpack icon

Hey Andrew! You uploaded a new backpack icon for Heartfelt Hero but what's the difference between your Heartfelt Hero image and ThatHatGuy image? I see no difference. Also how do you make backpack icons with 512x512 resolution? Do you use any online tools to do that? Resolution changer? Something else? This is my first time contributing a backpack icon so I have many questions in my head. Falcons (talk) 10:32, 15 May 2023 (UTC)

The difference is that the model is slightly differently positioned and it no longer says "Hugs.tf 2018".
GrampaSwood (talk) 10:35, 15 May 2023 (UTC)
Hi there. You don’t make the backpack icons in HLMV or any tool really, backpack icons can be found in the files of the game in the backpack folder within the textures folder. To access these folders you’ll need to use a program called GCFscape to look through .vpk files which have these folders. From there you can find .vtf files which you’ll need to export, make sure you export the ones that have β€œ_large” at the end of its file name. After you export it, you’ll have to download VTFedit to open the .vtf file you exported, and once you open it you’ll need to use VTFedit to export the file as a .png file. After it’s exported as a .png file, you can then upload it to the wiki. As for the difference like Swood said, the old icon had text with β€œHugs.tf 2018” while the new one just has β€œHugs.tf”.
Andrew360 Edit icon.png Speech typing.png Photo Badge Decal Example.png 12:07, 15 May 2023 (UTC)
Ah, okay. Thank you guys. Falcons (talk) 05:43, 18 May 2023 (UTC)

Some advice on editing the wiki, please?

Hi! I'm new, and taking a look at some of your contributions they're really high quality. Whilst I'd like to think I do well with editing, some tips on how to edit without making myself look dumb would be very cool!!! Also, hopefully the Wiki Cap nomination you got goes through, n' you get it. You deserve it. Payn (talk) 01:40, 2 August 2023 (UTC)

I'm not Andrew, but I can guarantee you no one never looks dumb making edits unless they intentionally vandalise pages.
BLU Wiki Cap.png | s | GrampaSwood (talk) 10:14, 2 August 2023 (UTC)
Yes, you won't look dumb for making edits even if they are less than ideal, everyone makes mistakes. As for my advice well, I don't really necessarily just edit pages as I focus more on making HLMV screenshots, so I can't really give any advice on just editing pages. However if you want to learn more about HLMV and making images, my advice would be to look at Gabrielwoj's HLMV guide, the cosmetic images help page, and the painted variants help page. If you have any questions about HLMV, feel free to ask me here or message me on Discord about it.
Also thanks for the good luck about the nomination.
Andrew360 Edit icon.png Speech typing.png Photo Badge Decal Example.png 00:12, 3 August 2023 (UTC)

Congrat on cap

Congrat in getting ze Wiki Cap, well deserved. Signed: the big yooo man. Headphones style when? - User Gabrielwoj Signature 1.png β–ͺ User Gabrielwoj Signature 2.png - User Gabrielwoj Signature 3.png 16:44, 24 August 2023 (UTC)

Congrats!! You're now allowed in the secret club where we talk about all the Poor and Irish editors.
BLU Wiki Cap.png | s | GrampaSwood (talk) 18:43, 24 August 2023 (UTC)
CONGRATS ON THE CAP!!! You've put in so much effort and made so many high-quality contributions. I think it is very well deserved! H20verdrive (talk) 19:31, 24 August 2023 (UTC)
Congratz in getting capped buddy! Yossef β€’ Talk 21:02, 24 August 2023 (UTC)
Dis have been dropped. Congratulations, and thanks for contributing ✨~ β€” Wookipan (talk | contribs) 21:35, 24 August 2023 (UTC)
Oi, congrats! And thank you for the fantastic work you've done so far ヽ(γƒ»βˆ€γƒ»)οΎ‰ β€” Tark 21:36, 24 August 2023 (UTC)
FΓ©licitations on your cap; I just saw your name on the main page! It has been a year since you first messaged me. Wiki pages would look barren or drab for a long time if it were not for you being there! Luno πŸͺπŸŒ• Talk / Contributions / Team 21:39, 24 August 2023 (UTC)
"Celebratory honk" πŸŽ‰ Oposshim (talk) 21:48, 24 August 2023 (UTC)
You are 101 % epic now (because you were 100% before) 😎 Β· Ashe (talk) 22:03, 24 August 2023 (UTC)
congration on the funny wiki cap!!!!! i knew you'd get it good work :DDDD Payn (talk) 23:48, 24 August 2023 (UTC)

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Andrew360 Edit icon.png Speech typing.png Photo Badge Decal Example.png 23:24, 24 August 2023 (UTC)

Late on this because of illness, but a belated congratulations. :3 I was happy to cast my vote officially. The Cap suits your loadouts very spiffy, pure "drip".--Leaderboard class allclass.png Akolyth (talk) 23:09, 31 August 2023 (UTC)

Default lightrot?

I'm a bit confused by one part of the Tank Buster revision. Is it standard practice these days to not rotate the lighting in HLMV at all? That results in a worse, flatter image in my opinion. -- Ragnar Homsar - (Talk) 11:00, 31 August 2023 (UTC)

Well I would say that most images on the wiki use default lightrot, take a look at the cosmetic image category and you’ll see that most images use default lightrot. I think the reason for this is that every part of the class is lit up well and that it’s unnecessary to change it unless a cosmetic has some sort of shiny effect which looks worse when lit up.
Andrew360 Edit icon.png Speech typing.png Photo Badge Decal Example.png 11:53, 31 August 2023 (UTC)
Definitely wasn't how we did it back when I was an active image person, and I don't really fully agree with it, but if it's the accepted norm nowadays, I'm not gonna go against the grain. Thanks! -- Rea - (Talk) 12:47, 31 August 2023 (UTC)
Yeah a lot of older images on the wiki use a bit of darker lighting, I don't know if default lighrot is "correct" or not, but it's just how most images are made now.
Andrew360 Edit icon.png Speech typing.png Photo Badge Decal Example.png 13:07, 31 August 2023 (UTC)