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Prinny Machete Prinny Machete

Carlton Carlton

Fubar Fanfare Fubar Fanfare

Balloonibouncer Balloonibouncer

Disco Fever Disco Fever

Grappling Hook Grappling Hook

(I mean, if nothing else, it is able to kill players.) Dogman15 (talk) 02:26, 24 December 2014 (PST)

I don't know, but, Grappling Hook is having several changes each update, so every time an update releases, it would be need to re-made the entire video. In my opinion, I would wait until Mannpower to release it completely before doing a Weapon Demonstration video. User Gabrielwoj Signature 1.pngUser Gabrielwoj Signature 2.png - User Gabrielwoj Signature 3.png 08:37, 16 March 2015 (PDT)
Yeah I agree with Gabrielwoj, otherwise we'd be constantly doing this demonstration :( User Obilisk Demo1.png Obilisk 13:32, 17 March 2015 (PDT)
Today's update says Mannpower is no longer in Beta. So would now be a good time to do this? Awesome144 (talk) 18:12, 28 October 2015 (PDT)
Yes. — Wind 13:48, 1 November 2015 (PST)

I should have this done soon; I've been sick for a week, so that's why it's taking longer than normal. - Uufje 14:13, 19 December 2015 (PST)

Sorry for the massive delay. I've tried to get it done between being sick and my internet crapping out. https://youtu.be/q3h_aMTkcuU - Uufje 07:20, 20 January 2016 (PST)
There are some kind of long pauses when I imagine you're pressing some binds to set things up in the Sniper+Spy clip. Try to shorten that.
In that same clip, it's not immediately obvious if you're following the hooked person or if your own movement makes the other person move (until later in the clip when the spy moves behind an object). Try to show movement from the target in clear sight when you aren't yet fully attached to them, or perhaps show it while you're up in the air (by having the target be on the crates or something) to make it clear it's not you walking. It's also not clear if you can use your other weapons.
Also, since this is an all-class weapon you need to show it for all classes. I suggest repeating showing a short fly-around clip around the same itinerary. — Wind 17:36, 24 January 2016 (PST)

Mannrobics Mannrobics

Whoever does this one, it would be really cool if you could get all nine classes to do the Mouse1 dance at the same time, in sync. Dogman15 (talk) 01:09, 14 July 2016 (PDT)

Zoomin' Broom Zoomin' Broom

Pictogram wait.png This demonstration has been reserved: Derpspy 16:17, 15 December 2015 (GMT)

Tools

Gift Wrap Gift Wrap

Does this still need to be done? I can do it. ~Hi5TBone 4:45 PM 6/12/2015 (CST)
No one seems to have touched it, so go ahead. User Obilisk Demo1.png Obilisk 05:11, 13 June 2015 (PDT)

Upgrade to Premium Gift Upgrade to Premium Gift

I'm not quite sure if this one is necessary User Karmacharger Charger 2.png Karmacharger 9:12 PM 8/24/2014 (PDT)
Nah, probably not unless someone just happens to run upon that item — Wind 19:59, 27 October 2014 (PDT)

Strange Count Transfer Tool Strange Count Transfer Tool

Pictogram wait.png This demonstration has been reserved: Scoot-teh-Destroyer (talk) 06:30, 12 January 2016 (PST)

With the release of the Tough Break Update, it would be a good idea to get this done ASAP. --User Dr. Scaphandre Golden Ghastly Gibus.png Dr. Scaphandre 11:17, 23 December 2015 (PST)

I'm down. Was thinking doing it once between a normal strange wep and a strange skin, and then doing the process again but in reverse. Scoot-teh-Destroyer (talk) 06:28, 12 January 2016 (PST)

OK. — Wind 18:11, 18 January 2016 (PST)

Gun Mettle and Tough Break Festivizer Gun Mettle and Tough Break Festivizer

Pictogram wait.png This demonstration has been reserved: Scoot-teh-Destroyer (talk) 20:22, 18 January 2016 (PST)

Do we need this? I'm totally down for doing it. Scoot-teh-Destroyer (talk) 06:34, 12 January 2016 (PST)
Yes. — Wind 18:11, 18 January 2016 (PST)

Cosmetics

Boston Boom-Bringer Boston Boom-Bringer

Pictogram comment.png Demonstration of how the sound effect works

Pardon me if I'm putting in the wrong place, but I noticed that Infernal Orchestrina includes the demonstration. I know that was for a pyroland item, but what if the Boston Boom-Bringer had a demonstration video where it shows the sound effect that is played when taunting? Just like the Orchestrina had (albeit the Pyroland thing). There is several sound effects, though, so all of them has to be played. User Gabrielwoj Signature 1.pngUser Gabrielwoj Signature 2.png - User Gabrielwoj Signature 3.png 21:32, 26 March 2015 (PDT)

Infernal Orchestrina was demonstrated because it turns pyroland vision on by itself, not because of the sound effect it adds. This item has no such dramatic change, so no need to demonstrate — Wind 15:08, 29 March 2015 (PDT)
Alright, thanks. User Gabrielwoj Signature 1.pngUser Gabrielwoj Signature 2.png - User Gabrielwoj Signature 3.png 15:12, 29 March 2015 (PDT)

Sucker Slug Sucker Slug

Pictogram comment.png Show assists in Pyroland

Need to be redone

Shortstop Shortstop

Pictogram comment.png Added Alt-fire attack: reach out and shove someone!

Pictogram comment.png Reduced pushback vulnerable to +20% (from +40%)

Pictogram comment.png Removed +20% bonus healing from all sources

Crit-a-Cola Crit-a-Cola

Pictogram comment.png Added Marked-for-Death debuff for 2 seconds after the buff effect expires

Frontier Justice Frontier Justice

Pictogram comment.png Weapon description says "-15% damage penalty" (is a bug and damage remains unaffected)

Sun-on-a-Stick Sun-on-a-Stick

Pictogram comment.png Take 25% less damage from fire while deployed

Righteous Bison Righteous Bison

Pictogram comment.png Fixed a bug causing players to be hit by the same projectile multiple times, causing the damage dealt to vary wildly

Pictogram comment.png Per-shot damage has been increased to compensate, resulting in slightly more damage on average

Pictogram comment.png Slowed projectile by 30%

Pictogram comment.png Projectile damage reduced by 25% for each enemy penetrated

Disciplinary Action Disciplinary Action

Pictogram comment.png Reduced duration of speed bonus on teammates to 2 seconds (from 3)

Iron Bomber Iron Bomber

Pictogram comment.png Decreased the fuse time to 1.4 seconds (from 2.0)

Brass Beast Brass Beast

Pictogram comment.png 20% damage resistance now only applies when spun up and below 50% max health

Widowmaker Widowmaker

Pictogram comment.png Damage increased +10% when attacking the same target as your sentry

Eureka Effect Eureka Effect

Pictogram comment.png Added "Teleporters cost 50% less metal"

Pictogram comment.png Reduced "50% less metal from Dispensers and Pickups" to 20%

Eureka Effect Eureka Effect

Pictogram comment.png Scoped shots now extinguish teammates

Pictogram comment.png When fully charged, or when making a headshot, now applies Jarate in a radius

Cozy Camper Cozy Camper

Pictogram comment.png Now requires a full charge to gain flinch resistance

Enforcer Enforcer

Pictogram comment.png Attacks pierce resist and absorb effects from all sources

PDA Build PDA Build

Pictogram comment.png Level 1 teleporters now cost 50 metal (from 125)

Bootlegger Bootlegger

Pictogram comment.png All boots now require a shield to activate any move speed bonus listed on the item

Ali Baba's Wee Booties Ali Baba's Wee Booties

Pictogram comment.png All boots now require a shield to activate any move speed bonus listed on the item

Medi Gun Medi Gun

Pictogram comment.png All Mediguns allow the Medic to match the speed of their heal target (Previously only available on the Quick Fix)

Pictogram comment.png Stored ÜberCharge begins to decay over time after coming to rest

Ali Baba's Wee Booties Ali Baba's Wee Booties

Pictogram comment.png All Mediguns allow the Medic to match the speed of their heal target (Previously only available on the Quick Fix)

Pictogram comment.png Stored ÜberCharge begins to decay over time after coming to rest

Cloak and Dagger Cloak and Dagger

Pictogram comment.png Can now pick up ammo kits for cloak meter while visible.

Pictogram comment.png While invisible, Spy receives 20% less damage from all damage sources

Pictogram comment.png While invisible, Spy has reduced timer on debuffs (fire, jarate, milk, bleed)

Pictogram comment.png HUD now displays "Motion" rather than "Cloak"

Dead Ringer Dead Ringer

Pictogram comment.png Cloak mechanism has been overhauled (see patch notes)

Enthusiast's Timepiece Enthusiast's Timepiece

Pictogram comment.png While invisible, Spy receives 20% less damage from all damage sources

Pictogram comment.png While invisible, Spy has reduced timer on debuffs (fire, jarate, milk, bleed)

Eviction_Notice Eviction Notice

Pictogram wait.png This demonstration has been reserved: User Karmacharger Charger 2.png Karmacharger 2:31 PM 5/27/2016 (PDT)

Pictogram comment.png Now provides 15% move speed bonus

Pictogram comment.png Now increases damage taken by 20%

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5bgn1-HohHY User Karmacharger Charger 2.png Karmacharger 2:23 PM 6/10/2016 (PDT)
One missed hit on the pyro. Rest is good — Wind 18:41, 26 June 2016 (PDT)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysoOQ7TeGlM alright hopefully it's good. I also re-rendered the Claidheamh Mór and Bushwacka with only showing the rocket damage, i uploaded both videos to the wiki channel, i don't think i should show you here, it's the same, just without the rest of the damage type clips. Well yeah, review once a month isn't enough. You can check twice a week, that wouldn't be too bad. User Karmacharger Charger 2.png Karmacharger 1:43 PM 7/3/2016 (PDT)
Is good, please upload~ — Wind 18:31, 4 July 2016 (PDT)

Fishcake Fishcake

Pictogram wait.png This demonstration has been reserved: User Karmacharger Charger 2.png Karmacharger 2:32 PM 5/27/2016 (PDT)

Pictogram comment.png Now has 10 second cool down on use

Pictogram comment.png Can now overheal up to 400hp

Pictogram comment.png Can be thrown (alt-fire) as a small medkit for other players to use

Pictogram comment.png Updated description to note that this item can be thrown (alt-fire) to supply players with a medkit

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L7RFMlpxWGk User Karmacharger Charger 2.png Karmacharger 10:18 PM 6/12/2016 (PDT)
You missed this one :p User Karmacharger Charger 2.png Karmacharger 1:46 PM 7/3/2016 (PDT)
Is good, please upload~ — Wind 18:31, 4 July 2016 (PDT)
Also i won't be doing the ones below, i'm gonna wait until the next update pops out and smash all of them once for all. User Karmacharger Charger 2.png Karmacharger 1:47 PM 7/3/2016 (PDT)
OK. — Wind 18:31, 4 July 2016 (PDT)

Force-A-Nature Force-A-Nature

Pictogram wait.png This demonstration has been reserved: User Karmacharger Charger 2.png Karmacharger 2:32 PM 5/27/2016 (PDT)

Pictogram comment.png Updated description to better detail the weapon's features.

I'll try my hand at it. I've gotten most of the clips down. I just need to put the 2 demos together and get a screen recorder for the loadout.--Punishment Fatal (talk) 23:18, 10 October 2015 (PDT)
Edit: I have the demos, but I'm having trouble compressing them. Quicktime doesn't want to let me work in h264 and the tga's have some sort of stop at certain frames when I didn't have in them in the game. How can I use a program that can smooth out the tga's or use a different format while recording a movie to extract the video and audio without stuttering or 1,000 files flooding my TF2?
If you're talking about bringing the images together to form a clip, personally I use Virtualdub. After you srcdemo2 and use Virtualdub you can delete all the images you used, as you will have the video. User Obilisk Demo1.png Obilisk 01:21, 11 October 2015 (PDT)
Yeah, I was using Virtualdub as well. It's just when I was watching the tgas compiled together, I noticed that at certain tgas the game completely halted and froze as if my game was stuttering though in the demo itself there was no visible sign of any framerate drop. Punishment Fatal (talk) 01:26, 11 October 2015 (PDT)
I've also seemed to have encountered another problem. Everytime I try to open SrcDemo2, it just loads and stops immediately even without opening a window to let me troubleshoot the problem. Do you know how to work around this? Also, should I use OBS for recording the loadout or do you recommend some other program? Punishment Fatal (talk) 03:47, 11 October 2015 (PDT)
Throw me a friend request, I can help out. Add me. User Obilisk Demo1.png Obilisk 05:48, 11 October 2015 (PDT)
Alright, I found the problem for Virtualdub. It stuttered since it wasn't an actual player and didn't load all the frames together. However, when I exported the frames, it reduced the quality quite a bit. Is there any way I can keep the quality while converting? Punishment Fatal (talk) 13:10, 11 October 2015 (PDT)
Edit: Nevermind, only Windows Media player was showing the quality as blocky. Windows Movie Maker shows it as normal. Punishment Fatal (talk) 13:36, 11 October 2015 (PDT)
Alright, here's the rough edit for the Demonstration. I haven't added a loadout option yet or rendered it in SrcDemo2, but I want to hear your guys' critique. (Also thanks again to Obilisk for sending me the training vid music). Punishment Fatal (talk) 19:26, 12 October 2015 (PDT)
Overall It's looking pretty good so far Punishment Fatal. My only suggestions would be to perhaps not fire two shots every time you intend to shoot. From the looks of your demonstration it seems compulsory to always fire both barrels. I'd say maybe just shoot one shot when you know the other won't be shooting at anything. ( An example is at 0:40 when you kill the medic, one of your shots go to waste. Try killing him with just the amount of bullets you need to, and again straight after, you should only shoot the backboard once.) Also, the ending sound should merge with the original demonstration music, rather than cutting to no music then bringing it in. Otherwise, as I said, looking good! User Obilisk Demo1.png Obilisk 04:16, 15 October 2015 (PDT)
Here's the fixed edit. Again, it's pre SrcDemo2 and loadout since I'm still trying to get SrcDemo to work (Dokanlibrary doesn't want to work for me on Windows 8) and I'm trying to decide which program to use for the loadout screen (would OBS be the best option?).
The clips you have provided are looking very nice. Though, not sure about the blurred transition, I'd say try avoid the blur and just have a transition if possible. Personally I use Fraps to record loadout views, can't say I've experienced much with other programs though I'm sure any one of them would do the trick. User Obilisk Demo1.png Obilisk 05:10, 18 October 2015 (PDT)
What Obilisk said, plus:
  • Audio and video appear desynced. Check the shot sounds vs video during the first clip at 0.5x speed.
  • Make sure to reload at least once with only one shot fired to show both shells being thrown out. This can be done with the medic if you end on a single shell left, or otherwise after shooting the back board with a single shot.
  • Don't twitch-jump (1:40). See current demonstration. You don't need to twitch, just need to be looking at the right angle while jumping.
  • Framerate is choppy (SrcDemo2 would fix it, and if that doesn't work, plain Source Recorder still should)

Wind 14:13, 18 October 2015 (PDT)

I must unfortunately remove my reservation. My computer does not want to co-operate well with any recording program and I no longer have the free time I once had to continue with the videos. Punishment Fatal (talk) 23:55, 4 January 2016 (PST)
This is probably the first time i said this, I don't think i can do this one, because the second clip is a nightmare to record, always missed the jump, and can't double-jump for whatever reason some times. Beside it only has the description updated User Karmacharger Charger 2.png Karmacharger 11:01 PM 6/14/2016 (PDT)
You might want to use my config which makes it really easy (just middle-click while aiming slightly downwards). Or if you just want the jump alias:
alias "+a_mouse3" "slot1; +jump; +duck; +attack"
alias "-a_mouse3" "-duck; -jump; -attack"
bind "mouse3" "+a_mouse3"

Wind 18:41, 26 June 2016 (PDT)

Gloves_of_Running_Urgently Gloves of Running Urgently

Pictogram wait.png This demonstration has been reserved: User Karmacharger Charger 2.png Karmacharger 2:33 PM 5/27/2016 (PDT)

Pictogram comment.png Increased holster time penalty

Golden Frying Pan Golden Frying Pan

Pictogram wait.png This demonstration has been reserved: User Karmacharger Charger 2.png Karmacharger 2:33 PM 5/27/2016 (PDT)

Pictogram comment.png Increased base wrench construction speed on hit boost by 50%. Buildings now build 2.5x faster instead of just 2x (additive of 1.5x + base speed)

Pictogram comment.png Teleporters and Dispensers redeploy +50% faster (2.5x without wrench boost, 5.5x with wrench boost)

Pictogram comment.png Building pick up speed penalty reduced from 25% to 10%

Pictogram comment.png Building repair costs increased from 20 metal to 33 metal to repair 100hp per wrench hit (from 5HP per metal to 3HP per metal)

Yes, for the Engineer it functions as a Wrench, and all the Wrench things are demonstrated in this video. - Uufje 01:40, 3 July 2015 (PDT)

Horseless Headless Horsemann's Headtaker Horseless Headless Horsemann's Headtaker

Pictogram comment.png Updated description to better detail the weapon's features.

Half-Zatoichi Half-Zatoichi

Pictogram wait.png This demonstration has been reserved: Vp999 (talk) 02:16, 6 July 2016 (PDT)

Pictogram comment.png Increased holster and deploy time and increased range

Pictogram comment.png Honorbound changed. Deals 50 self damage on holster if no kill was made. Cannot be holstered if player is below 50 life and no kill was made.

Pictogram comment.png 100% life restore on kill changed to 50% health gain on kill that can result in overheal

Pictogram comment.png No random crits

My third try to make a demonstration. I am SkullCake, I changed my name and I made a new account. This will be my account now. Here is the video. I hope it's good. -Vp999 (talk) 04:25, 6 July 2016 (PDT)

If you want, we can merge your two accounts so that edits are still preserved under the same account.
Regarding the demonstration:
  • Inconsistency between soldier/demo clips: the soldier one doesn't show what happens if you try to holster the weapon while being at 50 HP, but the demo one does. It should be demonstrated for both classes (I think that would be the first weapon like this for the Soldier).
  • Slight framerate drop when making towards the medic at 0:48.
  • The video doesn't demonstrate the large melee range. The current demo doesn't either but it should have... Check the Eyelander demo for an example of how to demonstrate this. Should be demonstrated for both classes.

The rest is good~ — Wind 17:19, 10 July 2016 (PDT)

I have one more problem... the big yellow damage numbers doesn't work anymore... -Vp999 (talk) 00:39, 11 July 2016 (PDT)

Is this video good? -Vp999 (talk) 11:05, 11 July 2016 (PDT)

Huo-Long Heater Huo-Long Heater

Pictogram comment.png Updated description to better detail the weapon's features.

Pictogram comment.png Added +25% increased damage vs. burning players

Pictogram comment.png Added -10% damage

Pictogram comment.png Reduced ammo drain to -4/sec (from -6)

Pictogram comment.png Reduced pulse damage from Ring of Fire to 12 (from 15) due to increased damage vs. burning

Jag Jag

Pictogram comment.png With the change to Base Construction boost, Jag bonus has improved.

Pictogram comment.png Added +15% swing speed.

Pictogram comment.png Added 20% repair penalty. Repairs will give up to 80hp per swing instead 100hp per swing.

Pictogram comment.png Teleporters and Dispensers redeploy +50% faster (2.5x without wrench boost, 5.5x with wrench boost)

Pictogram comment.png Building pick up speed penalty reduced from 25% to 10%

Pictogram comment.png Building repair costs increased from 20 metal to 33 metal to repair 100hp per wrench hit (from 5HP per metal to 3HP per metal)

Pictogram comment.png Added damage penalty against buildings. Now takes 3 hits to destroy a Sapper.)

Pictogram wait.png This demonstration has been reserved: User Karmacharger Charger 2.png Karmacharger 12:03 AM 3/12/2016 (PDT)

Loose Cannon Loose Cannon

Pictogram comment.png Updated description to better detail the weapon's features.

Pictogram comment.png Reduced projectile speed

Pictogram comment.png Reduced cannon impact damage from 60 to 50. Damage also scales with distance.

Pictogram comment.png Reduced knockback from cannon hit. Knockback strength is now similar to airblast.

Pictogram wait.png This demonstration has been reserved: Derpspy 16:49, 15 December 2015 (GMT)

Mad Milk Mad Milk

Pictogram comment.png Updated description. (Also handy for putting out a fire) Pictogram comment.png Extinguish an ally reduces the cooldown by 20%)

Pictogram wait.png This demonstration has been reserved: User Karmacharger Charger 2.png Karmacharger 5:44 PM 1/7/2016 (PDT)
The "Extinguish an ally reduces the cooldown by 20%" does nothing... i'm not sure why. i've reported it to Valve User Karmacharger Charger 2.png Karmacharger 5:45 PM 1/7/2016 (PDT)

Manmelter Manmelter

Pictogram comment.png Updated description to better detail the weapon's features.

Pictogram comment.png Removed hidden 20% fire rate penalty

Market_Gardener Market Gardener

Pictogram comment.png 20% Attack Speed penalty

Minigun Minigun

Pictogram comment.png Viewmodel has been updated.

Pictogram wait.png This demonstration has been reserved: Luigifan656 (talk) 15:43, 29 July 2015 (PDT)

Is this here good? https://youtu.be/GUFxZuTWU1o Luigifan656 (talk) 06:31, 30 July 2015 (PDT)

I personally noticed a few things:
  • Quality I think could use some improvement, try increasing your bitrate or quantizer settings when rendering the final video.
  • A minor thing, but usually the mouse pointer is already pointing at the backpack icon when the video starts.
  • The splitscreen scene looks weird, doesn't look like you centered and cropped the clips well enough. I'm assuming you meant to make a three-way splitscreen, try fiddling around until you can make three equally wide clips next to each other.
  • The music ends too soon, the "clack" ending sound should be at the very end.

This is not an official review, but it should give you something to work with before Wind returns. Good luck - Uufje 07:52, 30 July 2015 (PDT)

I am nearly done now, but I can't seem to find a training video mp3 that is as long as my demonstration. Luigifan656 (talk) 10:10, 30 July 2015 (PDT)

You can find extended music here: http://www.mediafire.com/download/y0gjm9yekjj6zzx/Demonstration+Music+v2.rar - Uufje 13:35, 30 July 2015 (PDT)

Is this here better? https://youtu.be/94Jt9uwb1uU Luigifan656 (talk) 14:27, 30 July 2015 (PDT)

Hi Luigifan656, first clip looks good to me, though the second clip needs some work.
  • Generally speaking, the hud needs to be present in all 3 splitscreens, two of yours appear to be cropped. However, with this specific splitscreen you don't even need the hud present at all, as the splitscreens are comparing the speed rather than the health or ammo.
  • Please give more time for the transition.
  • Start the splitscreen from a stationary potision, rather than having the heavies already running. (Basically try get the clip to be as identical as the original demonstration )
  • During the splitscreen there is no sound. I'd suggest having the shooting clip's sound play as well as the far left sound's play.
  • You should swap the splitscreen order, having the shooting clip on the far right and the spinning clip in the middle.
  • Don't end the splitscreen clip so suddenly, give some time then unspin the miniguns. (Again, try mimic the original demonstration.)
  • Also, are you running a german version of the game? When you shoot the enemies they appear to spark. Not sure if this is an issue or not, but worth noting.

Overall, good attempt at your demonstration dude, the first clip looks spot on to me, though the splitscreens do need some work. I know it seems like a mouthful, splitscreens can be a pain, but most of them are a easy fix. - This is only my opinion, so it'd be worth waiting for Wind's response. User Obilisk Demo1.png Obilisk 19:54, 30 July 2015 (PDT)

Yeah, the splitscreens don't seem to be centered. The middle clip is good, since the minigun is exactly in the middle, but the other two are still off. Try to fiddle around and make the right and left clips look like the middle one. - Uufje 00:37, 31 July 2015 (PDT)

This is better I think: https://youtu.be/qDKNgbImsZ4 oh, and I am playing on the german version of the game. I hope that isn't bad. Luigifan656 (talk) 07:37, 31 July 2015 (PDT)

Hmmm what is it? http://prntscr.com/7z90rp RADIST | T | C 07:43, 31 July 2015 (PDT)

Oh, I think Sony Vegas corrupted the file. Weird that I didn't see it when I edited it.

This? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1zF0H-HOHHQ&feature=youtu.be Luigifan656 (talk) 13:33, 31 July 2015 (PDT)

Still a few things you need to fix up Luigifan656,

  • The splitscreen position and sizes are still a bit off. To get 3 splitscreens even, have the far left track motion as "-640", the middle clip as "0" and the far right as "640" You then want to crop each clip to the size of "640" Doing so will have all three perfectly even.
  • The right clip is out of sync. It should sync perfectly with the middle clip. (Starting of the walk and ending of the walk should be perfeclty synced for the two.)
  • The far left clip appears to lag/jolt at 0:48.
  • There are bullet holes present in your clips all over the walls. To clear them simply type "r_cleardecals" in the console.
  • You should allow the miniguns to fully spin down before ending the demonstration. Also, the fade to black for each clip should be synced.
  • Also, I don't think the transitions between the clips should fade completely to black, to make them easily merge simply just place one clip over the other with a 0:15 transition. It should look like this. User Obilisk Demo1.png Obilisk 00:54, 1 August 2015 (PDT)

Feel free to wait for Wind's responce, I'm not sure what his opinion is about the minigun spin ups, as he may want them to be walking then spin and walk (Like the original minigun demonstrations are currently) Again though, it's very close to looking nice. Keep it up! User Obilisk Demo1.png Obilisk 00:54, 1 August 2015 (PDT)

Oh hi. Thanks for iterating pretty quickly on this demonstration. Here's my opinion:
  • All of what Obilisk said applies (including spin and walk)
  • For Minigun-like weapon demonstrations, it's customary to move a little bit forward in the spawning wooden box so that you are right up against the front wooden barrier during the first clip. This way, in this position, the minigun firing effect won't clip against the top wooden barrier. Do so before starting to record (don't move while recording).
  • There is some lag (or perhaps just a jittery mouse) around 0:20-0:23

Wind 16:50, 2 August 2015 (PDT)

Sorry that it took so long, but I hope this is better now: https://youtu.be/OyQibzGLowA Luigifan656 (talk) 15:43, 9 August 2015 (PDT)

Hey Luigifan656,
Another good attempt at the demonstration, but there's still a few things:
  • In my opinion you spend just a little too long shooting the pyro. After the 4th or so 'burst' you can increase the fire rate a bit to finish him off, however this may be alright as it is.
  • Your splitscreen doesn't appear to be even nor centered, each of the clips should have the crosshair in the middle.
  • Your far left splitscreen appears to have a black crosshair, try keep all the colours consistant throughout the demonstration.
  • The miniguns need to spin up completely in sync.
  • Again, try have the heavy's start in a stationary position, then move all at once and then spin up the miniguns. (Just like the original Minigun demonstration.)


Overall, again VERY close Luigi, just a few things. Since you said you're using Sony Vegas I made you a quick video on how to get the clips perfectly placed for a 3 way splitscreen. Note this is on Sony Vegas 12.0 Watch here. Ignore the glitches at the end, it's just Sony Vegas not liking to preview it properly. Wind hopefully will be checking the talk page within the next few days, so you should be able to get his opinion soon as well. Hang tight. User Obilisk Demo1.png Obilisk 05:35, 10 August 2015 (PDT)
I don't have anything to add to what Obilisk said except that no need to worry about #1 (shooting the pyro too long). Nice Vegas tutorial :3 — Wind 15:56, 16 August 2015 (PDT)

My first weapon demonstration video Watch here - Ratatoullite 21:29, 12 May 2016 (GMT -3)

"This video has been removed by the user." :( User Karmacharger Charger 2.png Karmacharger 1:44 AM 5/21/2016 (PDT)

Natascha Natascha

Pictogram wait.png This demonstration has been reserved: Dodosbirds (talk) 16:02, 5 December 2015 (PST)

Pictogram comment.png 20% damage resistance now only applies when spun up and below 50% max health

Pictogram comment.png Stun amount now has distance falloff. Decreases starting at 512hu down to zero stun at 1536Hu

Necro Smasher Necro Smasher

Pictogram wait.png This demonstration has been reserved: HolyShift (talk) 11:38, 22 December 2015 (PST)
Pictogram comment.png Increased base wrench construction speed on hit boost by 50%. Buildings now build 2.5x faster instead of just 2x (additive of 1.5x + base speed)

Pictogram comment.png Teleporters and Dispensers redeploy +50% faster (2.5x without wrench boost, 5.5x with wrench boost)

Pictogram comment.png Building pick up speed penalty reduced from 25% to 10%

Pictogram comment.png Building repair costs increased from 20 metal to 33 metal to repair 100hp per wrench hit (from 5HP per metal to 3HP per metal)

Yes, for the Engineer it functions as a Wrench, and all the Wrench things are demonstrated in this video. - Uufje 01:40, 3 July 2015 (PDT)

Nostromo Napalmer Nostromo Napalmer

Pictogram comment.png Extinguishing allies now grants +20hp

Overdose Overdose

Pictogram wait.png This demonstration has been reserved: Vp999 (talk) 07:52, 12 July 2016 (PDT)

Pictogram comment.png Updated description to better detail the weapon's features.

Pictogram comment.png Increased movement speed bonus to +20% (from +10%)

Pictogram comment.png Increased damage penalty to -15% (from -10%)

Is this video good? -Vp999 (talk) 10:54, 12 July 2016 (PDT)

Panic Attack Panic Attack

Pictogram comment.png No longer auto-fires when fully loaded. Shots can be held and released at will.

Persian Persuader Persian Persuader

Pictogram comment.png Updated description to better detail the weapon's features.

Pictogram comment.png Removed ammo pickups granting health instead of ammo

Pictogram comment.png Added penalties of reduced primary and secondary ammo

Pictogram comment.png Ammo pickups now replenish charge

Pictogram comment.png Now gains charge meter on hit

Phlogistinator Phlogistinator

Pictogram comment.png Removed 10% damage penalty.

Pictogram comment.png When activating 'MMMPH', the taunting Pyro gains temporary invulnerability and immunity to knockback effects.

Pictogram comment.png No longer restores player to max health on MMMPH activate.

Pictogram comment.png Increased amount of damage required to fill MMMPH meter to 300 from 225.

I'd recommend no one reserving this demonstration yet. Seems like a weapon Valve should nerf... Hopefully soon. User Obilisk Demo1.png Obilisk 22:32, 25 December 2015 (PST)

Cool, weapon has had a minor nerf. User Obilisk Demo1.png Obilisk 20:27, 20 January 2016 (PST)
They should do a miner movement speed. Like -10% movement speed. I'm the real TTheenderr (talk) 08:07, 8 February 2016 (PST)

Pomson 6000 Pomson 6000

Pictogram comment.png Über and Cloak drain decreases over distance from target.

Pictogram comment.png Reduced long-range damage to 32 (from 42)

Power Up Canteen Power Up Canteen

Pictogram comment.png Doesn't show Canteen Specialist upgrades like Battery Canteens demo does Toomai Glittershine 10:04, 26 June 2014 (PDT)

Pretty_Boy's_Pocket_Pistol Pretty Boy's Pocket Pistol

Pictogram comment.png Increased health recovered on hit from +3 to +5

Quick-Fix Quick-Fix

Pictogram comment.png Updated description to better detail the weapon's features.

Pictogram comment.png ÜberCharge rate reduced to +10% (from +25%)


Quickiebomb Launcher Quickiebomb Launcher

Pictogram comment.png Damage is now increased based on charge amount when the bomb is fired

Pictogram comment.png Increased charge time reduction to -70% (from -50%)

Pictogram comment.png Increased damage bonus for max charged shots to +35% (from +25%)

Pictogram comment.png Increased clip size penalty to -50% (from -25%)

Pictogram comment.png Removed Stickybombs fizzle 4 seconds after landing

Rainblower Rainblower

Pictogram comment.png Extinguishing allies now grants +20hp

Pictogram wait.png This demonstration has been reserved: weatherman115 08:48, 20 March 2016 (PDT)

I'll convince my friend to get in game and see what I can do. weatherman115 08:48, 20 March 2016 (PDT)

Rescue_Ranger Rescue Ranger

Pictogram comment.png Healing per bolt reduced from 75 to 60

Reserve_Shooter Reserve Shooter

Pictogram comment.png Now boosts switch-to speed by 20% and switch-from speed by 15%

Pictogram comment.png Now only mini-crits blastsjump, knockback airblast and grapple targets.

Robo-Sandvich Robo-Sandvich

Pictogram comment.png Updated description to note that this item can be thrown (alt-fire) to supply players with a medkit

As far as I know since I still have the Robo-Sandvich, Valve didn't update the description to include the note about its attributes like Sandvich. No need to be redone (for now). User Hinaomi Hinaomi-sig.png Rikka Takanashi (talk) • (contributions) 16:33, 10 July 2015 (PDT)

Rocket Jumper Rocket Jumper

Pictogram comment.png Updated description to better detail the weapon's features.

Sandvich Sandvich

Pictogram comment.png Updated description to note that this item can be thrown (alt-fire) to supply players with a medkit

Sapper Sapper

Pictogram comment.png Decreased the damage penalty on Sentries sapped by the Spy from -66% to -33%

Scorch Shot Scorch Shot

Pictogram comment.png Reduced damage penalty from -50% to -35%

Pictogram comment.png Now has increased knock back on burning targets

Pictogram comment.png Increased the blast radius from flares from 92Hu to 110Hu

Pictogram comment.png Hits and explosions always minicrit burning targets

Soda Popper Soda Popper

Pictogram comment.png Updated description to better detail the weapon's features.

Pictogram comment.png Added On hit: build Hype

Pictogram comment.png Removed Builds Hype as you run

Pictogram wait.png This demonstration has been reserved: weatherman115 08:07, 3 March 2016 (PST)

Still need a normal zip of the demonstration map, but I'll grab OBS and see what I can do. I'll make a concept video or something in the meantime. weatherman115 08:07, 3 March 2016 (PST)

Finally have the map file. I'll grab Source Recorder when I get home and get to it as soon as I can. I'm going to be busy this weekend, so I'll have to get demos recorded as quickly as possible. weatherman115 13:26, 17 March 2016 (PDT)

How's this? https://mega.nz/#!kg4WUBgC!8QxDHFVBDD7X6rd44ICSxM4kz5RijGXVOOV7SyQ5J6c weatherman115 16:45, 17 March 2016 (PDT)
Forgot the hype thing. Apparently it's a bit choppy. https://mega.nz/#!l1JUmDjb!899la7wcDdEEiO_V9c5wSUyoM2ucIEg8u3wXhGSiXXI weatherman115 17:00, 17 March 2016 (PDT)
As specified on the project page, you need to upload the video to YouTube in unlisted mode. This is because what matters isn't how good your video looks on its own, but how good it looks after YouTube conversion, since that's where it'll end up being seen. For the same reason, it also needs to be all in one video, not just adding new videos for missing clips.
Now regarding the videos themselves: they are both very choppy. The minimum requirement is 30fps without frame drops, with 60fps being better. Are you using Source Recorder? It should let you record at any framerate without slowdown, as long as you do it from source demo files (not playing+recording live).
You also need background music, and the modified HUD files to show damage numbers better. The video contents are good though, timing-wise and content-wise. — Wind 18:39, 20 March 2016 (PDT)
1. I think my friend has a Youtube channel, so I'll get in touch with them.
2. I was actually using OBS. I think it was my proccesor or the anticheat hook that made it choppy.
3. I didn't add in background music because I had to leave early the next day for to visit relatives, so I had to get something out. Also, I was a bit on edge on downloading the hud, although I can probably remove it later. I have to leave again this next weekend, so I'll get to it as soon as I can. weatherman115 04:29, 21 March 2016 (PDT)
They don't have a youtube channel. Darn. I'll try to get a Youtube channel up without my IT buddy yelling at me for making an account without their OK. weatherman115 13:25, 21 March 2016 (PDT)
Are you doing all this on a work computer or something? — Wind 13:09, 27 March 2016 (PDT)
Nah. Also, I won't be able to get to this until May, and even then I have a lot to do, so hopefully I'll get back to it by summer.

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Short Circuit Short Circuit

Pictogram comment.png Projectile destruction has been moved to alt-fire at the cost of -15 per shot. There is a 0.5s cool down between attempts and refire

Pictogram comment.png Cannot pick up buildings when the Short Circuit is deployed

Pictogram comment.png Base projectile attack is -10 metal (hit or miss) and consume -5 metal for each projectile destroyed

Southern Hospitality Southern Hospitality

Pictogram comment.png Increased base wrench construction speed on hit boost by 50%. Buildings now build 2.5x faster instead of just 2x (additive of 1.5x + base speed)

Pictogram comment.png Teleporters and Dispensers redeploy +50% faster (2.5x without wrench boost, 5.5x with wrench boost)

Pictogram comment.png Building pick up speed penalty reduced from 25% to 10%

Pictogram comment.png Building repair costs increased from 20 metal to 33 metal to repair 100hp per wrench hit (from 5HP per metal to 3HP per metal)

Pictogram wait.png This demonstration has been reserved: User Karmacharger Charger 2.png Karmacharger 12:02 AM 3/12/2016 (PDT)

Splendid Screen Splendid Screen

Pictogram comment.png Updated description to better detail the weapon's features.

Pictogram comment.png Removed the ability to deal charge impact damage at any range

Pictogram comment.png Recharge rate increased by 50%

Pictogram comment.png Increased blast resistance from 15% to 20%

Spy-cicle Spy-cicle

Pictogram comment.png No longer displays Fire immunity shield when fire immunity is triggered

Tide Turner Tide Turner

Pictogram comment.png Self damage will no longer decrease charge when charging

Pictogram comment.png Fall damage will no longer decrease charge when charging

Pictogram comment.png Amount of charge taken away on damage when charging reduced from 3 to 1 per point of damage

Pictogram comment.png Now grants mini-crit instead of full-crit on charge bash

Pictogram comment.png Reduced resistances to 15%

Tomislav Tomislav

Pictogram comment.png Now 20% more accurate (less spread)

Pictogram comment.png Increased spin up bonus from 10% to 20%

Pictogram wait.png This demonstration has been reserved: Jimbo Jones (talk) 18:26, 31 August 2015 (PDT)

Ullapool Caber Ullapool Caber

Pictogram comment.png Reduced explosion base damage from 100 to 75

Pictogram comment.png Reduced damage ramp up bonus for close range attacks. Now is the same as other explosive weapons.

Pictogram comment.png Base melee damage increased from 35 to 55

Pictogram comment.png Added 20% fire rate penalty

Pictogram comment.png Added 100% switch-to time penalty

Pictogram wait.png This demonstration has been reserved: Killicon rescue ranger.png Bruss48 (T | C) Killicon sentry3.png 14:05, 20 January 2016 (PST)

I'll see how this one goes. I found a video editor called Lightworks and I'll see if I can edit the clips with it.

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This is taking a lot longer than I would've hoped. The editing program didn't end up working for me, but I have the clips recorded. I'll try to download Adobe Premiere or something to edit the clips in. Killicon rescue ranger.png Bruss48 (T | C) Killicon sentry3.png 15:30, 1 February 2016 (PST)
I'm crying right now for how bad this looks. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r9t_GuBO1pA Killicon rescue ranger.png Bruss48 (T | C) Killicon sentry3.png 20:04, 9 February 2016 (PST)
Yeah, you definitely need to work on video quality here. The content is mostly good otherwise but please focus on getting a nice-quality video first, without the black borders and at a better resolution. — Wind 15:36, 27 February 2016 (PST)

Vaccinator Vaccinator

Pictogram comment.png Resistance and Über mechanism changed, see patch notes.

Pictogram comment.png Removed 10% health regeneration on proper resist

Pictogram comment.png Added slight ÜberCharge build on proper resist

Pictogram comment.png Increased ÜberCharge rate from +50% to +67%

Pictogram comment.png Reduced overhealed ÜberCharge build rate penalty to 33% from 66%. As this penalty is applied after the base increase, healing an overhealed patient is now 33% more effective.

Questions and Proposals

Note: This section is for questions and proposals that aren't specific to a single weapon. If you think a demo ought to be remade, then make an entry for it in the Need to be Redone section above and it will be dealt with.

So it appears that the weapon switch speed for every class has increased from 0.67 to 0.5 seconds. Are we going to have to redo all the demonstrations where weapon switching is present? User Obilisk Demo1.png Obilisk 23:00, 25 December 2015 (PST)

No, that's probably too much. — Wind 14:29, 27 December 2015 (PST)

Is there any particular reason we don't allow Collector's quality items to be used in demonstrations? Hail Fellow Well Met (talk) 23:38, 11 January 2016 (PST)

My assumption would be that Collector's quality is rather rare, and as such unrecognizable for most players, since Unique and Vintage have been around for ages all players by now should be able to recognize those. Although as far as I know we haven't talked about including Collector's quality in the suitable list for the Loadout screen, maybe now, being a year and a bit after the Collector's quality has been added, Wind may allow it. Let's see what he says. In my opinion the colour hurts my eyes haha. User Obilisk Demo1.png Obilisk 05:09, 12 January 2016 (PST)
It's definitely not the quality most people watching the video would have the item in. And if they do, then they would already know there's no difference between Collector and non-Collector. The reverse is not as likely.
I also don't think disallowing Collector's quality items prevents people from contributing to these videos. Surely if you manage to get a Collector's item you can also manage to get a non-Collector version of it.
More generally, the allowed qualities the "common" ones such that they are recognizable by most people and don't put up a barrier for contribution. It also prevents the temptation people may have to show off their rare item when they have a non-rare version of it. And having a small restricted set keeps videos consistent. — Wind 18:11, 18 January 2016 (PST)

I'm thinking of doing one of the weapons here, but my graphics card is confused as to whether or not it can record video. Could I record the demos and upload the demos for recording? weatherman115 08:11, 2 February 2016 (PST)

That's not the hard part of the work (the demo rendering/cutting/adding backpack view/music mixing/transitions/muxing/uploading to youtube/etc process is significant) and the review process would be pretty awkward if the responsibility is shared between two people, so I don't think that kind of system would work very well. — Wind 14:46, 6 February 2016 (PST)
I knew there was going to be a problem. I'll see if I can get my card to record video, although I'm afraid that it will break the card. But frankly, it's worked before, so it shouldn't be a problem.
...I would put my graphic card name here, but I'm away from my computer and I can't check from anywhere other than there. I do remember that it's an AMD. weatherman115 07:36, 8 February 2016 (PST)
Found it. It's a Radeon HD 5900 Series. weatherman115 15:09, 8 February 2016 (PST)
Can you find the precise number? 5900 is a wide series. I'm pretty sure they're all good enough to use Source Recorder at 7250p or higher though so I don't think you should have problem rendering as long as you have the correct drivers. — Wind 15:36, 27 February 2016 (PST)
I was actually thinking of using OBS, but that sounds good. Where can I download it?
Also, can I have a non-7zip file of the demonstration map? I don't want to download any more software, and I'm pretty sure Windows 10 can't unzip .7z files. weatherman115 06:28, 2 March 2016 (PST)
Here's the extracted map file: http://weaponref.wiki.tf/tr_target_weaponref_hdr.bspWind 18:08, 13 March 2016 (PDT)
Been way too long since I last checked my account, completely forgot about this. I'm on mobile right now, plus I've got life stuff to do, so I'll get to it as soon as I can. Thanks! weatherman115 13:17, 17 March 2016 (PDT)
For the demonstration config, how do I reset my settings after recording? I'm a very competitive player, so being able to restore my settings would be great. weatherman115 14:45, 17 March 2016 (PDT)
The Source engine configuration file language is very limited. It doesn't have any kind of state-keeping, so there is no way for a config file to be able to undo itself. The only way to have an easy "undo" is rather to have a config file that sets the options you want. Then you can alternate between the two config files in order to switch between one or the other. There's no way for the demonstration-specific config file to figure out what your previous configuration was, so it can't provide a way to undo itself either. Sorry :( — Wind 18:39, 20 March 2016 (PDT)