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{{c|info|FYI:}} For whomever does this, stunning someone after they are hit with the Guillotine will cause the bleed damage to turn into critical bleeding damage. --[[User:Org|Org]] 22:22, 2 August 2012 (PDT)
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:http://youtu.be/6lPuIVJCvSk [[User:OrangeJuicePanda|OrangeJuicePanda]] 05:43, 3 August 2012 (PDT)
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== {{Demo Header|Chemistry Set}} ==
::Redid it to show that it can be airblasted. http://youtu.be/wrG-eSrlSnA [[User:OrangeJuicePanda|OrangeJuicePanda]] 17:07, 3 August 2012 (PDT)
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:::Where's the taunting and hit the Soldier at the fence to show hit yellow word? [[File:Hinaomi-sig.png]] [[User:Hinaomi|Hinaomi]] <small>([[User talk:Hinaomi|talk]]) - ([[Special:Contributions/Hinaomi|contributions]])</small> 11:57, 5 August 2012 (PDT)
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:::: I didn't think I needed to show that for this weapon and I did the taunt in my first take but forgot it in my second(While recording I probably was going to do it during the airblast but forgot). Thanks for the feedback and I will redo that tonight. [[User:OrangeJuicePanda|OrangeJuicePanda]] 13:36, 5 August 2012 (PDT)
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::::: Finally finished, sorry it took so long I was having problems rendering. http://youtu.be/EcJIs6WhGho [[User:OrangeJuicePanda|OrangeJuicePanda]] 19:58, 6 August 2012 (PDT)
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Hi, just made a vid demonstration about Chemistry kit. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R2uEkaw6Jbs&feature=youtu.be
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What should i do next? ~ Fokus 03.06.2020 16:50 GMT+2
::::::* Another bleeding weapon didn't show mini-crit, don't show that.
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::::::* Reflect part, it can deal damage when reflect. Reflect to yourself in that part to show it can deal damage when reflect.
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:Hi there,
::::::The rest is good... [[File:Hinaomi-sig.png]] [[User:Hinaomi|Hinaomi]] <small>([[User talk:Hinaomi|talk]]) - ([[Special:Contributions/Hinaomi|contributions]])</small> 13:28, 7 August 2012 (PDT)
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: You now have to wait for [[User:WindPower|WindPower]] to respond. He usually does this every week on Sundays, though he's very busy nowadays.
:::::::Alright redoing it now. [[User:OrangeJuicePanda|OrangeJuicePanda]] 13:57, 7 August 2012 (PDT)
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: My advice on your video is: Don't start in the Main Menu, start in the backpack (first page) instead. Make sure your backpack's page is also clear of other stuff, so when you finished using the chemistry set it doesnt go to the third page and you'll have to drag it from there. Show yourself using the Chemistry Set, too, it's part of its functionality. Your video also seems to have a delay between sound and the video.
::::::::If you're going to show that it mini-crits with the Soda Popper, shouldn't you show it would/wouldn't also do that with the Fan o' War? [[User:Combatjellyfish|Combatjellyfish]] 15:32, 7 August 2012 (PDT)
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: It also lacks editing.<br>[[User:GrampaSwood|GrampaSwood]] ([[User talk:GrampaSwood|talk]]) 15:05, 3 June 2020 (UTC)
:The weapon minicrits on it's own. The soda popper isn't being demonstrated.
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:::> he's very busy nowadays
::Check the most recent version. He demonstrates that it mini-crits in close distance with the Soda Popper. [[User:Combatjellyfish|Combatjellyfish]] 15:55, 7 August 2012 (PDT)
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:::You give me too much credit. [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 05:44, 8 July 2020 (UTC)
:::Hmm. So you're right, I must;ve missed that. Yeah, there's no reason to show the soda popper in this demo. [[User:Armisael |'''Armisael''']] <small>([[User_talk:Armisael |T]] | [[Special:Contributions/Armisael |C]])</small> 15:33, 7 August 2012 (PDT)
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::::The main reason I included that was because I didn't think that actually applied to bleed out so I felt it was noteworthy enough to be in the demonstration. [[User:OrangeJuicePanda|OrangeJuicePanda]] 20:40, 7 August 2012 (PDT)
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::Hi, thanks for tips. I fixed the video, now it should be much better. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-fgON6QQ6Mk&feature=youtu.be <br />
:Here goes~
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::[[User:Fokuskii|Fokuskii]] ([[User talk:Fokuskii|talk]]) 23:53, 3 June 2020 (UTC)
* Since you have the non-stock Sandman equipped in the first clip, you should show it. It's invisible right now because it is covered up by the Flying Guillotine tooltip
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* Wait just a little more after stunning the soldier, to give players more time to realize that he is stunned
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:::The same problem applies with the backpack. It should start on the first page (that's empty except for the required items). The section where you hover over the chemistry set is too long, perhaps make it 1 or 2 seconds. The same thing applies to the end, show the strangifier being applied. It also lacks fading (A lot of these things can be fixed with simple editing, but I think the pages thing will have to be done with a new one :\)<br>[[User:GrampaSwood|GrampaSwood]] ([[User talk:GrampaSwood|talk]]) 13:10, 4 June 2020 (UTC)
* Very confusing animations when killing the medic. It doesn't look like you throw the knife, and then it looks like you swing the bat for no apparent reason
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:::The video should also be 1080p (your first version was 1080p but the second version is 720p). Agreed with all other comments — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 05:44, 8 July 2020 (UTC)
* Don't crouch at 0:58 (??)
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* Fades are too long; half a second of fading is usually enough
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I have both an alt and a professor speks chemistry set for this demonstration, I just have yet to find the password to the account...<br>[[File:BLU Wiki Cap.png|20px|link=List of Wiki Cap owners]] | [[Help:Group rights|<span style="color:green;font-family:TF2 Build;">s</span>]] | [[User:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">GrampaSwood</font>]] [[File:PraisetheSun.png|20px|alt=Praise the Sun!]] ([[User talk:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) ([[Special:Contributions/GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">contribs</font>]]) 21:36, 12 November 2023 (UTC)
* Wait a little more before throwing the weapon at the medic at 1:15 (the fade is not even done at that point)
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* Make sure to always run wepaonref.cfg. It appears that you didn't do it in the clip at 1:35; you can tell by looking at Medic's coat, with the LOD changing as you get closer
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Hey, was wondering if this was still open? I can do a possible version with a collector chemistry kit but not sure if it matters if it's strangifier or collector's. [[User:God&#39;sWrath|God&#39;sWrath]] ([[User talk:God&#39;sWrath|talk]]) 01:15, 16 February 2024 (UTC)
* Weapon thrown way too soon at 1:51 (give it some time)
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* Wait a little more before getting minicrits in that clip (try so that about 60% of the hits are non-mini-crits)
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:It's still open, although a collector's kit may be too large as it would require showing all 100 items added.<br>[[File:BLU Wiki Cap.png|20px|link=List of Wiki Cap owners]] {{!}} [[Help:Group rights|<span style="color:green;font-family:TF2 Build;">s</span>]] {{!}} [[User:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">GrampaSwood</font>]] [[File:PraisetheSun.png|20px|alt=Praise the Sun!]] ([[User talk:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) ([[Special:Contributions/GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">contribs</font>]]) 11:13, 16 February 2024 (UTC)
* No need to kill the Medic in that clip, it can be ended after the minicrit-bleeding is done
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* YouTube cut out the ending clip (end the sound a little before the video does to prevent this)
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::Ah, alright so what if I show a strangifier first and add a section for the collector's where I only put 1 in but I put disclaimer stating it's x amount of x items and not 1 item for a collector's kit? So video doesn't drag out. [[User:God&#39;sWrath|God&#39;sWrath]] ([[User talk:God&#39;sWrath|talk]]) 03:41, 17 February 2024 (UTC)
[[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 17:00, 8 August 2012 (PDT)
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:::Just pick a simpler, cheaper chemistry set like in the first video · [[User:Ashe|<font color="DB9C1F">Ashe</font>]] ([[User talk:Ashe|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) 05:15, 17 February 2024 (UTC)
:Thank you for the response I will get to work on that I just got back on from a mini vacation so I will get right to work on this weapon demonstration. Also I can't wait a little when stunning the soldier otherwise I can't get the critical due to the stun not lasting long enough. [[User:OrangeJuicePanda|OrangeJuicePanda]] 19:46, 11 August 2012 (PDT)
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::That's ok then. I just mean that you should wait as long as possible [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 05:14, 13 August 2012 (PDT)
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I've reserved this but I've been thinking it over and I'm not sure if it's really necessary. The [[Strangifier]] demonstration shows the exact same process of completing a chemistry set to acquire a strangifier and then applying it to the item. Both demonstrations would bassically be the same. Do we really need two demonstrations showing the exact same thing? Or what should this demonstration do to be different from the Strangifier demonstration? [[User:Mediarch|<font color="ec5c69">'''Mediarch'''</font>]] [[File:User Mediarch PFP.png|25px]][[User:Mediarch|<font color="#ff66cc"> ♥ </font>]][[User talk:Mediarch|<font color="ec5c69">'''Talk'''</font>]][[User:Mediarch|<font color="#ff66cc"> ♥ </font>]][[Special:Contributions/Mediarch|<font color="ec5c69">'''My Edits'''</font>]] 22:01, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
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== {{Demo Header|Upgrade to Premium Gift}} ==
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:I'm not quite sure if this one is necessary [[File:Charger 2.png|20px|]] [[User:Karmacharger|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Karmacharger</span>]] 9:12 PM 8/24/2014 (PDT)
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::Nah, probably not unless someone just happens to run upon that item [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 19:59, 27 October 2014 (PDT)
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Question: Do I need to show I, person giving the premium gift, receive the professor speks?<br>[[User:GrampaSwood|GrampaSwood]] ([[User talk:GrampaSwood|talk]]) 11:04, 6 September 2019 (UTC)
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:Yes, that's part of the item's effects. — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 23:39, 8 September 2019 (UTC)
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I have brought the premium gift to another account, the only issue is that the professor speks is already on my TF2 account, so I would need a third account to receive the speks (while already having premium). It may take a while longer but if anyone else wants to give a crack at it.<br>[[File:BLU Wiki Cap.png|20px|link=List of Wiki Cap owners]] | [[Help:Group rights|<span style="color:green;font-family:TF2 Build;">s</span>]] | [[User:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">GrampaSwood</font>]] [[File:PraisetheSun.png|20px|alt=Praise the Sun!]] ([[User talk:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) ([[Special:Contributions/GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">contribs</font>]]) 21:36, 12 November 2023 (UTC)
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== {{Demo Header|Something Special For Someone Special}} (Tool)==
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{{reservation|[[User:Mediarch|<font color="ec5c69">'''Mediarch'''</font>]] [[File:User Mediarch PFP.png|25px]][[User:Mediarch|<font color="#ff66cc"> ♥ </font>]][[User talk:Mediarch|<font color="ec5c69">'''Talk'''</font>]][[User:Mediarch|<font color="#ff66cc"> ♥ </font>]][[Special:Contributions/Mediarch|<font color="ec5c69">'''My Edits'''</font>]] 00:29, 2 May 2024 (UTC)}}
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Hi. I know this item is quite expensive for someone to make a demonstration, but I was thinking, a video showcasing how the item works (which the purchaser's choose they person), and then, on the same video, showing the chosen player's screen perspective, showing the option to accept the proposal, and after that, showing the notification on the Main Menu for the accepted proposal.
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<br>Considering the high cost that would be making this demonstration, I wonder if Valve could gives us a hand and supply one for our demonstrations purposes, as long we delete both rings after doing the full video.
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<br>It seems that the process is mostly the same as the [[Gift Wrap]], but I have no idea how are the things when someone receives that Gift. We also lack a proper Gift Wrap video, apparently. [[File:Gabrielwoj Signature Icon.png|15px|link=User:Gabrielwoj]] - [[File:Gabrielwoj Signature 1.png|link=User:Gabrielwoj]] ▪ [[File:Gabrielwoj Signature 2.png|link=Special:Contribs/Gabrielwoj]] - [[File:Gabrielwoj Signature 3.png|link=User talk:Gabrielwoj]] 19:26, 16 July 2019 (UTC)
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: Keep dreaming, valve won't even fix server issues much less give us free items. If you are planning to make a demonstration though, better ask windpower for some super detailed instructions to make sure it's right the first time. [[User:Naleksuh|Naleksuh]] ([[User talk:Naleksuh|talk]]) 21:37, 18 July 2019 (UTC)
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::Well, they have the ability to both give and delete items, it could work? Yes. Will it happen? We don't know. If there's anything we can do, is ask for someone who plans on buying one legitimately and asking them for help. Last time that the item got in 50% off, a lot of people bought one, so. [[File:Gabrielwoj Signature Icon.png|15px|link=User:Gabrielwoj]] - [[File:Gabrielwoj Signature 1.png|link=User:Gabrielwoj]] ▪ [[File:Gabrielwoj Signature 2.png|link=Special:Contribs/Gabrielwoj]] - [[File:Gabrielwoj Signature 3.png|link=User talk:Gabrielwoj]] 20:01, 19 July 2019 (UTC)
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:::If you give it some time, I could save up to get it and try to make it. <br>[[User:GrampaSwood|GrampaSwood]] ([[User talk:GrampaSwood|talk]]) 20:16, 19 July 2019 (UTC)
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:I offer to give a 50 USD Steam gift card to anyone who has already gotten an item demonstration video approved and uploaded in order to make this demonstration, and then another 50 USD Steam gift card upon video approval. I'm not sure what the price of the item is in other currencies but I'll also match that if possible as long as it's not too much more expensive. Please make sure to record both sides (sender account and receiver account). — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 23:00, 21 July 2019 (UTC)
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::Well, I guess we should start discussing how should it be done. Firstly, I think the Gifter should be named "Scout" and the Recipient be "Miss Pauling". Scout has the [https://steamcdn-a.akamaihd.net/steamcommunity/public/images/avatars/c7/c718b0c234a3f5ff5fc8f0b99c3f64f0de4ccefe_full.jpg Scout avatar] (184x184 version from Steam), while Miss Pauling can use [https://i.imgur.com/bBLbzuP.png this]. I think the name could be something along what Scout would say, my suggestion, name it as "You are really frickin' sweet". That'd go nice, eh?
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::Secondly, I don't know who's going to be the Recipient. Should we create a Steam account just for that, or should we rely with another Video Demonstration Creator to do a collab? [[File:Gabrielwoj Signature Icon.png|15px|link=User:Gabrielwoj]] - [[File:Gabrielwoj Signature 1.png|link=User:Gabrielwoj]] ▪ [[File:Gabrielwoj Signature 2.png|link=Special:Contribs/Gabrielwoj]] - [[File:Gabrielwoj Signature 3.png|link=User talk:Gabrielwoj]] 23:55, 21 July 2019 (UTC)
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::<br> well how about we can hit two birds with one store and do the ring and the Upgrade to Premium Gift from the same two account?, First the two account would demostrate the Upgrade to Premium Gift which the sender should buy it from the store and send to the receiver who don't have premium. them Recycle the same account to do the ring. We could make a story out of it as well from friendship when a user gifted the premium to the other use then after few days they both got engaged via the sender would give the ring. It won't end up a awkward situation. but for this situation we need 4 people to do the ring tho 2 sender reciever, 2 regular tf2 player to recieved the message one in the tf2 main menu and the other while in-game[[User:Jomarcenter|Jomarcenter]] ([[User talk:Jomarcenter|talk]]) 14:27, 28 August 2019 (UTC)
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::::That's a cute story, but let's keep the demonstration to just one item (the ring), not the Upgrade to Premium Gift on top of it. — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 22:17, 1 September 2019 (UTC)
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:::: I don't know what you're talking about, wind. Story time is clearly more important than the actual video. (but in all seriousness the two '''accounts''' would be okay to reuse right?) [[User:Naleksuh|Naleksuh]] ([[User talk:Naleksuh|talk]]) 04:52, 4 September 2019 (UTC)
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:::::Yeah, sure, it would just be two separate videos — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 23:39, 8 September 2019 (UTC)
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:::<br> I kind of thought the role playing names were unnnecessary to begin with, and could also cause confusion as to whether or not those texts always appear in game. But if WP or thed feels that's the best way to do it without commercializing it then oh well for me.
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::: The two steam accounts would be kinda hard to sync up (and would also be a waste of $100), i'm willing to be proposed to if no one else will :) [[User:Naleksuh|Naleksuh]] ([[User talk:Naleksuh|talk]]) 01:06, 25 July 2019 (UTC)
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::::No need for roleplaying. It's cool if you want to do it but totally optional. — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 06:26, 29 July 2019 (UTC)
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== [[File:Mannpower Powerup King.png|16px|link=Mannpower]] [[Mannpower]] powerups ==
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{{c|Demonstrate all powerups.}}
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{{c|Show you can switch to the Grappling Hook under the effects of the Knockout powerup.}}
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Hello, I had a question about preforming/recording this demonstration. Mannpower has a domination mechanic (Not to be confused with [[Domination|dominations]]), this mechanic works by when a player has many more kills than other players on the enemy team, and so that player gets nerfs on their power ups. I'm guessing I would have to demonstrate this in the video, however I do not know how to activate it. I have not been able to activate this on myself in tr_karma, however even if I did, the player who is dominating does not get the message on their screen showing that they are dominating. The only effects the player who is dominating sees is they are marked for death if they have a power up, and a nerf on that power up for that player. I don't know how I would go about demonstrating the effects of domination mechanic, considering the viewer wouldn't know that being marked for death with a power up means you are dominating. If I were to get the domination mechanic to work, should I just show the class as marked for death, or something else? [[User:Andrew360|<span style="font-family:TF2 Build; color:#038d3a ">Andrew360</span>]] [[File:Edit_icon.png|20px|link=Special:Contributions/Andrew360]] [[File:Taunt Rancho Relaxo.png|25px|link=User_talk:Andrew360]] 01:51, 12 July 2022 (UTC)
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:This does sound hard to demonstrate. If you enable third-person mode, do you see the skull icon above the player's head in the 3D world (not on the HUD)? If so, here's a structure that might work:
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* Spawn enough enemies on the map such that you can reach domination status, and still have enough enemies left over to show that the effect isn't about killing *all* other enemies.
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* Switch to third-person mode.
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* Kill enough enemies such that domination status appears.
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* Highlight the correlation between the third-person skull icon and the HUD one, for example by zooming in on both at once, or drawing a red box around both or something.
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Now you've established that "skull on HUD" = "having killed enough enemies".
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Now, demonstrate each powerup one by one. For each powerup, do a split-screen, with the left being non-dominating, and the right being already-in-dominating status. Pick up the powerup on both clips and demonstrate the effect. The skull icon being visible on the clip on the right should be enough of a hint that this is the cause. If not obvious enough, you can draw attention to it at the beginning of the clip, such as by drawing a red box over it or something.
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Hope this helps. I suggest doing a test demo with just one or two powerups demonstrated and posting it here first before doing all the work it would take to get this all done for all powerups, as there are a lot. (Perhaps each powerup should have its own video? That's a separate question...)
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— [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 21:39, 31 July 2022 (UTC)
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:I might try my hand at this, but only after I finish my other demonstrations and receive feedback and corrections for them. [[User:Po1yb1ank|Po1yb1ank]] ([[User talk:Po1yb1ank|talk]]) 23:56, 14 December 2023 (UTC)
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I don't think it's very needed, but since it seems very simple, I can do it · [[User:Ashe|<font color="DB9C1F">Ashe</font>]] ([[User talk:Ashe|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) 05:13, 16 December 2023 (UTC)
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:Won't you need another person since they are only delivered to players while playing on a server? [[User:Cheddar|Cheddar]] ([[User talk:Cheddar|talk]]) 08:18, 16 December 2023 (UTC)
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::To add on, maybe have it filmed from the perspective of the gift being sent, and have the perspective of the recipient? [[User:Cheddar|Cheddar]] ([[User talk:Cheddar|talk]]) 08:19, 16 December 2023 (UTC)
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:::I could help with this one, I can do most days after 22:00 CEST [[User:Po1yb1ank|Po1yb1ank]] ([[User talk:Po1yb1ank|talk]]) 15:29, 16 December 2023 (UTC)
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::::@Po1yb1ank we appreciate your enthusiasm, but before doing this, please complete the KGB video first. I can wait · [[User:Ashe|<font color="DB9C1F">Ashe</font>]] ([[User talk:Ashe|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) 17:45, 16 December 2023 (UTC)
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:::::Sure thing, I've just been trying to edit it and the fist bump videos, expect them both in the coming days. [[User:Po1yb1ank|Po1yb1ank]] ([[User talk:Po1yb1ank|talk]]) 21:34, 16 December 2023 (UTC)
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::::::I might delay doing the KGB taunt until the new year, I was going through the files and all of them have bots dropping the Smissmas presents, so expect the KGB to be completed later than expected. [[User:Po1yb1ank|Po1yb1ank]] ([[User talk:Po1yb1ank|talk]]) 13:55, 20 December 2023 (UTC)
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{{Outdent|6}} I'm still up for making this demonstration, I would need a lovely assistant to help out with it. [[User:Cheddar|Cheddar]] ([[User talk:Cheddar|talk]]) 18:24, 21 January 2024 (UTC)
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:IF you still need an assist I could help some time just let me know [[User:Mediarch|Mediarch]] ([[User talk:Mediarch|talk]]) 23:43, 12 March 2024 (UTC)
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::Yeah still need a hand with it, the only problem is getting a way to join one another because using create server won't make it joinable, I think there some other stuff you gotta do.<br>[[User:Cheddar|<font color="#193940">'''Cheddar'''</font>]] • [[User talk:Cheddar|<font color="#193940">'''Talk'''</font>]] 07:53, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
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::: pretty sure You should be able to use https://na.serveme.tf/ to temporarily rent a server. That's what a lot of the competitive teams use for matches. If that doesn't work I could ask around and know a few people that might have their own servers we could borrow [[User:Mediarch|Mediarch]] ([[User talk:Mediarch|talk]]) 08:49, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
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::::[https://drive.google.com/file/d/1vprZjfUfVNmIYVgJTo2B1kWNxwoXQ-zR/view?usp=sharing Here] is the demo feedback needed! <br>[[User:Cheddar|<font color="#193940">'''Cheddar'''</font>]] • [[User talk:Cheddar|<font color="#193940">'''Talk'''</font>]] 17:30, 27 April 2024 (UTC)
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:::::[https://drive.google.com/file/d/1n6LxHCztXG7Fql9_k6DIl_tzvvPxb6Z5/view?usp=sharing Here] is a newer version! <br>[[User:Cheddar|<font color="#193940">'''Cheddar'''</font>]] • [[User talk:Cheddar|<font color="#193940">'''Talk'''</font>]] 19:51, 28 April 2024 (UTC)
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::::::Looks good. Thanks · [[User:Ashe|<font color="DB9C1F">Ashe</font>]] ([[User talk:Ashe|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) 15:04, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
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:::::::[https://drive.google.com/file/d/1WdoPKPndSFbAfdndznXG1T54facFABOi/view?usp=sharing Here] is a newer version!<br>[[User:Cheddar|<font color="#193940">'''Cheddar'''</font>]] • [[User talk:Cheddar|<font color="#193940">'''Talk'''</font>]] 21:39, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
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{{c|Demonstrate all Magic spells with the Stock (Normal quality) version equipped.}}
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{{c|Maybe include this one on the [[Magic spells]] page, other spellbook variants are not needed (Fancy and Diary).}}<br>
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Suggestion: Use {{cvar|tf_test_spellindex}} to always get a specific spell · [[User:Ashe|<font color="DB9C1F">Ashe</font>]] ([[User talk:Ashe|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) 21:19, 28 January 2024 (UTC)
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== {{Demo Header|Fancy Spellbook}} ==
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{{c|Same as above, with the exception that the particle effects that emit on the hand are different.}}
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== {{Demo Header|Fireproof Secret Diary}} ==
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{{c|Same as above, with the exception that the particle effects that emit on the hand are different.}}
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== {{Demo Header|Kritz or Treat Canteen}} ==
  
=={{icon item|Huo-Long Heater|16px}} [[Huo-Long Heater]]==
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== [[File:Heavyhumiliation.png|16px|link=Match outcomes]] [[Match outcomes]] ==
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{{c|Current one does not show front, crouching, running, etc, at all angles.}}
:If akuago gave OJP permission to remove the reservation, then it should've been noted somewhere. Somehow, I doubt that he did. — [[User:Armisael |'''Armisael''']] <small>([[User_talk:Armisael |T]] | [[Special:Contributions/Armisael|C]])</small> 03:50, 3 August 2012 (PDT)
 
::I didn't even see that I did that. Thank you for putting that back I didn't even notice. [[User:OrangeJuicePanda|OrangeJuicePanda]] 05:43, 3 August 2012 (PDT)
 
Moving pass the fact someone was tampering with my reservation, [http://youtu.be/1SRylb4Y4iM I chose to do a beta demonstration of this weapon.] I know a few more scenes might be needed so I want to make sure that all bases will be covered in my foreseen redo of this weapon so that even those like Wind and Armisael approve, users like Karma or Mr. Vinderack won't say immediately or long after its approval a single or multiple little suggestions that will cause a revoked approval. --[[User:Akuago220|Akuago220, The Jungle Expeditioner]] 10:24, 4 August 2012 (PDT)
 
:I think you should show how fast about consume ammo with normal minigun. [[File:Hinaomi-sig.png]] [[User:Hinaomi|Hinaomi]] <small>([[User talk:Hinaomi|talk]]) - ([[Special:Contributions/Hinaomi|contributions]])</small> 12:01, 5 August 2012 (PDT)
 
::That I can manage. I'm also working on the Spy portion, but despite my efforts, I can't get him to disguise as a class without being a Spy myself. If anyone knows how this process is done, please let me know so I can progress with the demonstration. --[[User:Akuago220|Akuago220, The Jungle Expeditioner]] 23:03, 5 August 2012 (PDT)
 
:::Okay, [http://youtu.be/tOv6waHBbN4 here's my second take on the Huo Long Heatmaker.] --[[User:Akuago220|Akuago220, The Jungle Expeditioner]] 12:23, 7 August 2012 (PDT)
 
::::It doesn't show that you can light arrows with it (I assuming that you can' if this isn't possible, ignore me, of course). — [[User:Armisael |'''Armisael''']] <small>([[User_talk:Armisael |T]] | [[Special:Contributions/Armisael |C]])</small> 15:00, 7 August 2012 (PDT)
 
:::::I'll check it out, if so, I'll need a server and a partner with a Huntsman to do this portion with me. --[[User:Akuago220|Akuago220, The Jungle Expeditioner]] 18:50, 7 August 2012 (PDT)
 
:::::Just tested it out in a Turbine server, the Huntsman can NOT be ignited by the Huo Long Heatmaker. --[[User:Akuago220|Akuago220, The Jungle Expeditioner]] 10:35, 8 August 2012 (PDT)
 
:May want to throw in a clip that shows how long you can stand from 200 ammo to running out of ammo. It would be kind of long but I think it would give a better idea of how much ammo it consumes when deployed. Maybe put that at the end so that it's not too boring. If you do, put clips in order so that the 3 last clips are: spy cloak/disguise detection clip, split-screen ammo consumption comparison with the minigun, and non-split-screen clip showing how long it takes to drai nout all the ammo by just standing. That way, the two last clips are related (ammo consumption) rather than having an unrelated clip in the middle (spy). That's all~ — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 17:00, 8 August 2012 (PDT)
 
::Not a problem. [http://youtu.be/yRrL7lq7OUA Here's the revised version with that extra clip in it.] Since there was apparently nothing else about it that needing fixing, it's safe to say now, [http://www.mediafire.com/?gzayxyd6gla4jxb download it here if good.] --[[User:Akuago220|Akuago220, The Jungle Expeditioner]] 08:02, 9 August 2012 (PDT)
 
::: Scratch that, [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4yFzQOvHfnY here's the revised version with the updated backpack view.] [http://www.mediafire.com/?q9d3hex9agjbp43 Download it here.] --[[User:Akuago220|Akuago220, The Jungle Expeditioner]] 19:57, 10 August 2012 (PDT)
 
:::: I think that enemy players can jump over the ring of fire and remain flame-free. It shows that the ring of fire is more like a hedge rather than an impenetrable wall. Should this be demonstrated? [[File:User_Upgrade_Signature.png|link=User:Upgrade]] 22:11, 10 August 2012 (PDT)
 
:::::I don't know; given that the class stays in the air for no less than a second or two, in the end, they'll still get burned. It just seems like a waste of time showing something that, in the long run, is not so significant (or not as significant as the other aspects shown in the demonstration). --[[User:Akuago220|Akuago220, The Jungle Expeditioner]] 12:34, 12 August 2012
 
::::::The current video is all good, please upload~ — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 05:14, 13 August 2012 (PDT)
 
:Actually, given that a spy can jump over the ring of fire to get a backstab without ever being lit, that may be worth demonstrating. Just a thought; if not, whatever. — [[User:Armisael |'''Armisael''']] <small>([[User_talk:Armisael |T]] | [[Special:Contributions/Armisael |C]])</small> 12:57, 13 August 2012 (PDT)
 
::I just tried that with the Soldier. After 5 tries, the Soldier still got burned no matter how high he jumped. If he can't bypass the ring of fire, then most classes probably can't either. If that's the case, then the whole "bypassing the ring of fire" scene shouldn't be added if all classes can't do it (before anyone possibly argues with something like a Sapper being class-specific aversion with the Engineer, that's because the sapper is meant to go against one specific class whereas fire affects all classes). --[[User:Akuago220|Akuago220, The Jungle Expeditioner]] 10:49, 14 August 2012 (PDT)
 
  
I had a go at trying to make a video for the Huo-Long Heater (I am a new user and did not find out that someone else had reserved it and I am new to all of this) I would just like some feed back on my video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WNtGltBTaHs. Thanks for reading. [[User:Flairton|Flairton]] 05:05, 13 August 2012 (PDT)(PDT)
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So there's a bit of a problem with showing the other angles with this demonstration, as you can't actually rotate the camera. Despite it being in third person, you cannot change the angle of the camera nor use +left or +right to make only the camera move. Any attempt to move the camera either doesn't work or makes the character move along with the camera. My original plan for this demonstration was the following:
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* Show a split screen with a player on RED team on one screen and player on BLU team on the other screen
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** The RED player would capture the intelligence on 2Fort, and the other screen would show the BLU player in humiliation after they lose
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*** This part would repeat for each class
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* It would then cut to tr_karma where I would rotate the camera around the class when they're standing, crouching, running, etc
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* After this I would move on to the next class until all of them are done<br>
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However I can't do this because I can't rotate the camera, does anyone have any ideas on how to rotate or have other ideas of how to demonstration and show the different angles? <br>[[User:Andrew360|<span style="font-family:TF2 Build; color:#038d3a ">Andrew360</span>]] [[File:Edit_icon.png|20px|link=Special:Contributions/Andrew360]] [[File:Taunt Rancho Relaxo.png|25px|link=User_talk:Andrew360]] 22:47, 6 February 2023 (UTC)
  
:This demo was reserved by [[User:Akuago220|Akuago220]]. And your video has many mistake.
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::How about just use the RED player to see the BLU humiliation animation. Like:
* Have 2 black bars on the side of the video.
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::''RED player is the main camera, BLU player is a bot/a smaller pip/split screen in the video''
* No background music.
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::#BLU player stands beside the intel point
* Custom crosschair.
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::#RED player captures the intel and win the game
* Didn't show afterburn kill, ring of fire effect's area, spy check (disguise and cloak), consume ammo rate, etc.  
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::#BLU player enters humiliation
: [[File:Hinaomi-sig.png]] [[User:Hinaomi|Hinaomi]] <small>([[User talk:Hinaomi|talk]]) - ([[Special:Contributions/Hinaomi|contributions]])</small> 22:24, 12 August 2012 (PDT)
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::#RED player look at the BLU player
:It's also not using good enough graphics settings (the lighting in the map looks very dark). The pause menu is also visible at the beginning. Still, the main clip of the demonstration follows the pattern correctly — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 05:14, 13 August 2012 (PDT)
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::#BLU player moves around to show off the humiliation animation.
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::I feel like this also shows off the concept of "match outcomes", make the whole story connected via one team wins and see another team loses with humiliation animations. Do we have to use tr_karma map for demonstration? Is this demonstration video about "match outcomes" or "humiliation animations"?--[[User:AlexT|<span style="background:linear-gradient(#D1EEFC, #81F3FD);border:1px #99F3FD solid;color:#007FFF;border-radius:8px">'''Alex'''</span>]][[User talk:AlexT|<span style="color: #FF6600;">'''T'''</span>]] 03:19, 7 February 2023 (UTC)
  
Thanks for the feedback. That was my first try at a video. :)
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:Simply using {{code|thirdperson_mayamode}} it would be possible to show off these animations from a stationary angle (turning your character rather than camera, although tr_karma/tr_target have no winning objective, so you'd need a different map for it (I suggest [[Thunder Mountain]] and standing in first BLU's spawn so it's still somewhat related to the tr_target map, using {{code|mp_bonusroundtime}} to extend the time at the end and just capping the first point).<br>[[User:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">GrampaSwood</font>]] ([[User talk:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) 11:01, 7 February 2023 (UTC)
  
=={{icon item|Neon Annihilator|16px}} [[Neon Annihilator]]==
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::I'm a bit confused on what you mean on the capping part, as you say to stay in BLU spawn, but also cap the point to win which would make BLU would win and RED would be in humiliation. Do you mean to make the time run out so RED wins instead? <br> [[User:Andrew360|<span style="font-family:TF2 Build; color:#038d3a ">Andrew360</span>]] [[File:Edit_icon.png|20px|link=Special:Contributions/Andrew360]] [[File:Taunt Rancho Relaxo.png|25px|link=User_talk:Andrew360]] 23:24, 7 February 2023 (UTC)
{{c|Reserved by Armisael}}
 
:http://youtu.be/TLsOu8_9-cY — [[User:Armisael |'''Armisael''']] <small>([[User_talk:Armisael |T]] | [[Special:Contributions/Armisael |C]])</small> 15:11, 3 August 2012 (PDT)
 
::You should probably give some indication into how long the player is counted as wet after exiting water. - [[User:Limeaide|Limeaide]] 17:30, 4 August 2012 (PDT)
 
:::Jarare not shown, a reason for that? [[User:TheDoctor|δ³Σx²]] 17:32, 4 August 2012 (PDT)
 
::::Because it functions identically to milk, and it has minicrits to confuse the matter. The length of time after exiting water is a good point, though. — [[User:Armisael |'''Armisael''']] <small>([[User_talk:Armisael |T]] | [[Special:Contributions/Armisael |C]])</small> 17:32, 4 August 2012 (PDT)
 
:::::http://youtu.be/3ZQCYQ2fQmk — [[User:Armisael |'''Armisael''']] <small>([[User_talk:Armisael |T]] | [[Special:Contributions/Armisael |C]])</small> 06:30, 5 August 2012 (PDT)
 
::::::In accordance with the Melee Makeover, you should probably demonstrate a crit-boosted critical hit on the medic... unless this weapon doesn't crit-boost? [[User:Darkid|<span style="color:red">Darkid</span>]] ([[Image:Item icon Carouser's Capotain.png|21px|link=User_talk:Darkid|alt=talk]]|[[Image:Item icon Camera Beard.png|21px|link=Special:Contributions/Darkid|alt=contribs]]) 11:44, 5 August 2012 (PDT)
 
:::::::If the weapon doesn't get random crits, we don't do the critboost demonstration. It's why the axtinguisher wasn't remade. — [[User:Armisael |'''Armisael''']] <small>([[User_talk:Armisael |T]] | [[Special:Contributions/Armisael |C]])</small> 11:58, 5 August 2012 (PDT)
 
:::::::This is all specified in the melee makeover rules thing
 
:Here goes~
 
* Maybe the water-duration-demonstration-clip should be a split-screen with the two snipers leaving the water at the same time, but hit at a different time. Or perhaps they would leave the water at different times and hit at the same time, kind of like the 3 heavies in the medigun demo that showd the different heal rates
 
* Add a little more waiting time at the beginning of the last clip
 
* Try not to get a voice line like "ah, piss" since it's not piss (I hope). Or you may want to use something else than a sniper for a change (up to you)
 
[[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 17:00, 8 August 2012 (PDT)
 
:: Psyke says this is getting a big cosmetic update tomorrow to change the texture slightly and make it smash on crit kill. Might be worth waiting a day to work on it. [[User:Balladofwindfishes|Balladofwindfishes]] 17:51, 8 August 2012 (PDT)
 
:http://youtu.be/1MilrRNAj4c Well, that's a little different now. — [[User:Armisael |'''Armisael''']] <small>([[User_talk:Armisael |T]] | [[Special:Contributions/Armisael |C]])</small> 20:13, 10 August 2012 (PDT)
 
::http://youtu.be/u9o8qL9KVJ0 Fixed a kill notice. — [[User:Armisael |'''Armisael''']] <small>([[User_talk:Armisael |T]] | [[Special:Contributions/Armisael |C]])</small> 05:40, 11 August 2012 (PDT)
 
:::Is good but please demonstrate the sapper breakage with a split-screen, like the recently-remade Homewrecker and Maul demos — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 05:14, 13 August 2012 (PDT)
 
::::http://youtu.be/C2n3SyNfBs8 — [[User:Armisael |'''Armisael''']] <small>([[User_talk:Armisael |T]] | [[Special:Contributions/Armisael |C]])</small> 14:14, 13 August 2012 (PDT)
 
  
=={{icon item|Red-Tape Recorder|16px}} [[Red-Tape Recorder]]==
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:::Either works. Just any way to make the classes go into the humiliation pose. I personally wouldn't mind it that much if RED was in BLU spawn, but it's up to you.<br>[[User:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">GrampaSwood</font>]] ([[User talk:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) 12:33, 8 February 2023 (UTC)
{{c|Reserved by KarmaCharger}}
 
:i'm going to do it after the medigun , so please don't reject my reserve :( [[File:Charger 2.png|20px|]] [[User:Karmacharger|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Karmacharger</span>]] 7:23  ,  8/3/2012 (PDT)
 
::[http://youtu.be/n1zbHeIQ2mY That's all i know it need to demonstration] [[File:Charger 2.png|20px|]] [[User:Karmacharger|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Karmacharger</span>]] 12:03  ,  8/7/2012 (PDT)
 
:::A few problems to my eye (since wind is largely not present):
 
:::*Engineer is visible for a few seconds in the sentry comparison clip.
 
:::*Always have the stock sapper on the left for comparison clips
 
:::*When you're sapping a building, the building's targetid is covering parts of the building, so it's hard to get a good look at them.
 
:::*You don't show the 'placing a sapper' animations for disguises.
 
:::Anyways, just my two cents. Feel free to ignore. — [[User:Armisael |'''Armisael''']] <small>([[User_talk:Armisael |T]] | [[Special:Contributions/Armisael |C]])</small> 09:56, 6 August 2012 (PDT)
 
:Here goes~
 
* What Armisael said, especially the HUD box hiding the building. Try to position the mouse so that the building is clearly visible and not covered by the HUD. If you can do that and show the HUD box at the same time, then that's great; otherwise, then look slightly away so that the box doesn't show, since the health is still shown in the corner of the screen anyway.
 
* In the first clip, hide the Engineer, then sap sentry (like you did), then sap Dispenser (without the engineering wrenching it), then sap the teleporters (like you did, with the revolver shots as well). Don't show the spam-sappers-on-dispenser in that clip.
 
* Show a split-screen speed comparison of sapping a level 1 sentry and a level 2 sentry (insert them before the level 3 sentry split-screen clip)
 
* Be consistent in left/right split-screens; always put the red tape on the right (you did that for the level 3 sentry but not for the dispenser and teleporter)
 
* Add a clip at the end of the demonstrations, with a dispenser and an engineer that shows how long it takes to destroy a dispenser by spamming sappers
 
— [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 17:00, 8 August 2012 (PDT)
 
:I also forgot: Show what the toolbox does. Pick it up as both a spy and an engineer to show ammo refill, metal refill, cloak gain, etc. — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 00:49, 9 August 2012 (PDT)
 
::Would it be possible to show a Mini-Sentry being sapped? As I recall, the sapped animation is much slower than the normal (re)building animation, and the Mini-Sentry regains health despite the fact it cannot be repaired.
 
::Also, I was wondering as to the general consensus about this versus the normal Sapper demonstration. Since these demonstrations were made with the intention that there was no other Sapper, a lot of things have been added, such as: the disguised sapper placement animations, Sapper placement during numerous building demonstrations etc. What should be done about those things?
 
::[[File:User_Upgrade_Signature.png|link=User:Upgrade]] 13:15, 9 August 2012 (PDT)
 
:::These things don't really affect gameplay. so no need to demonstrate them much — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 05:14, 13 August 2012 (PDT)
 
sorry for getting longer , i was sick these days but the video will done tomorrow. [[File:Charger 2.png|20px|]] [[User:Karmacharger|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Karmacharger</span>]] 2:35  , 8/12/2012 (PDT)
 
  
http://youtu.be/ZiVQqVKC9mw [[File:Charger 2.png|20px|]] [[User:Karmacharger|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Karmacharger</span>]] 11:31  ,  8/13/2012 (PDT)
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::::I went in game to test out thirdperson_mayamode, and it does not work, as for some reason the losing animation isn't considered as in "thirdperson" by the game I think. Does anyone else have any other ideas? Only other way I can think of is using SourceTV, however I don't know how to set that up. <br> [[User:Andrew360|<span style="font-family:TF2 Build; color:#038d3a ">Andrew360</span>]] [[File:Edit_icon.png|20px|link=Special:Contributions/Andrew360]] [[File:Taunt Rancho Relaxo.png|25px|link=User_talk:Andrew360]] 01:15, 12 February 2023 (UTC)
* Missing destruction sound when the teleporter entrance is destroyed in the first clip (?)
 
* Progressively-increasing audio/video desynchronization in first clip. Look at 1:00, the time between the moment the spy takes the toolbox and the moment the "ammo pickup" sound is played. This is a longstanding source recorder bug when rendering demos with large framerate. You need to do a second render with a low framerate, and use the audio from that render with the video from the first render with the high framerate.
 
* No sapping sound from either sapper during the teleporter split-screen clip
 
* I just realized that the video doesn't currently show the advantage of using this sapper: that the building's level decrease stays after the sapper is gone. This is kind of shown during the sapper-spamming in the last clip but it's not very clear because there's a lot going on in the clip and the dispenser's levels are not very easy to distinguish. I think it may be worth adding a new clip (that goes before the sapper-spamming clip) with a RED engineer bot with a level 3 sentry in front of him and a level 3 dispenser full of metal behind him. As a spy, sap the building a little and have the engineer destroy the sapper very quickly. Wait for 2 or 3 seconds, then have him repair it back to full health and fully upgraded. Then sap a little longer but not enough to make it go back to level 1 (to show the extent of time that the engineer has to remove the sapper before the sentry goes to level 1), wait a few seconds, and have the engineer upgrade+repair the sentry. Then sap longer so that the sentry goes back to level 1, have him destroy the sapper, wait a few seconds, and then repair+upgrade it again. During all of the clip, stare at the sentry like you do in the dispenser sapper-spamming clip so that the current health, level, and upgrade progress are always visible
 
Should do it~ — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 05:14, 13 August 2012 (PDT)
 
  
 
= Need to be redone=
 
= Need to be redone=
=={{icon item|Baby Face's Blaster|16px}} [[Baby Face's Blaster]]==
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== {{Demo Header|Crusader's Crossbow}} ==
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{{c|Ubercharge gain rate is reduced in the same way that the Medi Gun's healing (and therefore, Ubercharge build rate) is - it is based on the last time the target was in combat.}}
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{{c|Does not show that if you try to heal up an enemy Spy, Über is not built.}}
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{{c|Does not show that if you heal an enemy player through a Pyro's reflect, Über is built.}}
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I removed the clip from the previous demonstration when the medic is building his übercharge with the crossbow, the actual changes make it way too long. [https://youtu.be/Ssaodg-dl7g Video] — [[User:Thedop|Thedop]] ([[User talk:Thedop|talk]]) 14:44, 11 September 2019 (UTC)
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:The picture-in-picture clip is too large and covers the center of the main video's vision. So when the heavy/spy turns to see the medic, it just doesn't show up on the screen. Please decrease the size of the picture-in-picture — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 00:38, 16 September 2019 (UTC)
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::[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6asv69_x0o&feature=youtu.be Second try] — [[User:Thedop|Thedop]] ([[User talk:Thedop|talk]]) 06:45, 25 September 2019 (UTC)
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:::The Minigun is still hiding the medic when he's firing... — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 00:07, 30 September 2019 (UTC)
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::::''*sigh*'' Thedop's demonstration has been in hiatus for two years. Maybe I can make my own demonstration if Thedop doesn't mind. — [[User:Exaskliri|Exaskliri]] <sub>(they/them)</sub> ([[User talk:Exaskliri|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Exaskliri|contribs]]) 06:43, 14 April 2022 (UTC)
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:::::Demonstration reservations are only valid for 2 weeks. If the reservation tag remains on a video and no action has happened since, you can ignore the reservation and replace it with a reservation of your own. — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 00:33, 24 April 2022 (UTC)
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::::::Oh, and by the way, don't forget to add a demonstration of healing afterburn (probably the most common type of status effect). [[User:Qwertyxp2000|Qwertyxp2000]] ([[User talk:Qwertyxp2000|talk]]) 23:17, 16 June 2022 (UTC)
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::::::: Definitely doable for making an entry about using Crossbow at point blank range to both hit enemies and heal teammates. [[User:Qwertyxp2000|Qwertyxp2000]] ([[User talk:Qwertyxp2000|talk]]) 21:06, 25 June 2022 (UTC)
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== {{Demo Header|Enforcer}} ==
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Note: Future redos won't have to do as many status effect clips as the previous video. - '''[[User:Thedop|Thedop]]''' 19:11, 20 October 2018 (UTC+1)
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== {{Demo Header|Gloves of Running Urgently}} ==
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{{c|Show the hidden (?) functionality with Dalakohs Bar/Fishcake.}}
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{{c|Have a section dedicated to see if it's faster to run with the GRU at a certain point + eating the Dalokhs vs. not using the GRU.}}
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GRU has a hidden (?) functionality with the chocolate bar which can regenerate all the health lost upon eating. Not shown on the demonstration video, should it be? [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MvV_CnCpezo Video about the functionality]. I am also not sure if this should be a thing on the Daloks/Fishcake video or GRU (or both). [[File:User Gabrielwoj Signature Icon.png|15px|link=User:Gabrielwoj]] - [[File:User Gabrielwoj Signature 1.png|link=User:Gabrielwoj]] ▪ [[File:User Gabrielwoj Signature 2.png|link=Special:Contribs/Gabrielwoj]] - [[File:User Gabrielwoj Signature 3.png|link=User talk:Gabrielwoj]] 14:29, 14 August 2021 (UTC)
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:It's most likely a glitch and not intended. Yes, it's been out since forever, but so are other glitches out there, and these videos typically don't demonstrate these, in order to avoid a redo in case valve ever fixes them (lol, I know). — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 05:03, 17 September 2021 (UTC)
  
The 40% more accurate attribute isn't demonstrated. --[[User:Org|Org]] 17:17, 17 July 2012 (PDT)
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== {{Demo Header|Holiday Punch}} ==
:Yes, but it's sort of hard to demonstrate. Not to be redone unless someone can think of a way to easily demonstrate it~ — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 18:52, 17 July 2012 (PDT)
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{{c|Does not demonstrate that disguised spies do not laugh from Holiday Punch.}}
::Scouts shooting at an enemy that's at the very edge of the bullet cone for the BFB, so the BFB misses but the scattergun hits. — [[User:Armisael |'''Armisael''']] <small>([[User_talk:Armisael |T]] | [[Special:Contributions/Armisael |C]])</small> 18:53, 17 July 2012 (PDT)
 
:::But how do you really show that the enemies are in the exact same position and everything in both clips? TO a viewer I think it would simply look as if you just didn't aim properly — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 18:57, 17 July 2012 (PDT)
 
::::http://youtu.be/YVhbukKNvaQ Obviously, console precision is required for a shot like this, but I think it can be done. — [[User:Armisael |'''Armisael''']] <small>([[User_talk:Armisael |T]] | [[Special:Contributions/Armisael |C]])</small> 19:13, 17 July 2012 (PDT)
 
:::::This is a great way to show it, indeed~ — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 20:42, 17 July 2012 (PDT)
 
::::::May i take this one? [[File:Charger 2.png|20px|]] [[User:Karmacharger|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Karmacharger</span>]] 12:06  ,  7/18/2012 (PDT)
 
:::::::Yes, if of course you use console precision to do this because there's probably no way you can do this without the console this time — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 12:12, 19 July 2012 (PDT)
 
:::::Another way to demonstrate it may be firing into a wall and comparing the bullet holes. --[[User:Org|Org]] 06:31, 18 July 2012 (PDT)
 
::::::No, that's not really as clear — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 12:12, 19 July 2012 (PDT)
 
::::::hmm.. wind i am sorry , i think i leave it for other person. [[File:Charger 2.png|20px|]] [[User:Karmacharger|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Karmacharger</span>]] 7:29  ,  7/20/2012 (PDT)
 
  
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{{c|Does not demonstrate interaction between cloaked spies and Holiday Punch crits.}}
  
http://youtu.be/WRjlm44NKEE — [[User:Armisael |'''Armisael''']] <small>([[User_talk:Armisael |T]] | [[Special:Contributions/Armisael |C]])</small> 11:24, 21 July 2012 (PDT)
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I kind of felt Holiday Punch could possibly be redone such that it demonstrates its interaction with cloaked and disguised spies. [[User:Qwertyxp2000|Qwertyxp2000]] ([[User talk:Qwertyxp2000|talk]]) 08:11, 17 March 2020 (UTC)
:Can you do multiple shots? I know bullet spread is off but the viewer doesn't necessarily realize that. If you shoot multiple times then it becomes pretty clear that there's no coincidence or randomness here — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 23:07, 21 July 2012 (PDT)
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:Not very practical, but sure, if anyone's up for it — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 04:11, 24 April 2020 (UTC)
::http://youtu.be/hpgzjBTIa1A — [[User:Armisael |'''Armisael''']] <small>([[User_talk:Armisael |T]] | [[Special:Contributions/Armisael |C]])</small> 07:35, 22 July 2012 (PDT)
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::Not sure if I have to create a new section for the Holiday Punch or add information on an already existing one, but there's several things that probably should also be demonstrated:
:::There is... no sound? — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 14:21, 26 July 2012 (PDT)
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::{{c|Demonstrate that enemies underwater doesn't laugh on the back / critical hits, which therefore, they don't receive damage}} (The map used for demonstrations does not have water, though)
::::http://youtu.be/DxKC8yamyS4 — [[User:Armisael |'''Armisael''']] <small>([[User_talk:Armisael |T]] | [[Special:Contributions/Armisael |C]])</small> 14:42, 26 July 2012 (PDT)
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::{{c|Demonstrate that punching an enemy at the back / doing a critical hit on an enemy that is jumping / is on the air, has no effect, and does no damage}}
:::::Poor mixing at 2:09 - 2:11. Is all~ — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 17:10, 1 August 2012 (PDT)
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::{{c|Demonstrate that it's possible to tickle enemies that are being Ubercharged, possibly include both the patient and the Medic being tickled}}
It also doesn't show that taunt kills don't fill up the Boost bar. <small>— ''The preceding unsigned comment was added by'' '''[[User:Boynedmaster|Boynedmaster]]''' ([[User talk:Boynedmaster|talk]]) • ([[Special:Contributions/Boynedmaster|contribs]]) </small>
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::* Tickle the patient first, show that it's still in the effects of Uber, and tickle the Medic second, that would probably be more ideal, so it shows that when a Medic is tickled, his target loses the healing / ubercharge
:Not really necessary — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 17:10, 1 August 2012 (PDT)
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::* Perhaps also demonstrate the Quick-Fix ubercharge, since it mentions it blocks "movement-impairing effects", which isn't the case for the Holiday Punch (I'm pretty sure you can still get tickled with the Quick-Fix uber)
::http://youtu.be/o8PSCnigSjw — [[User:Armisael |'''Armisael''']] <small>([[User_talk:Armisael |T]] | [[Special:Contributions/Armisael |C]])</small> 17:36, 1 August 2012 (PDT)
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::{{c|Demonstrate that a Scout with the effects of Bonk! can be tickled}}
While the video shows that the boost is reset when jumping, it doesn't demonstrate that the momentum is reset during the jump as well. '''[[User:TheChrisD|<font color="green" face="Verdana">TheChrisD</font>]]''' <sup>[[User_talk:TheChrisD|<font color="lime">Rants</font>]]•[[Special:Contributions/TheChrisD|<font color="lime">Edits</font>]]</sup> 10:15, 3 August 2012 (PDT)
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::{{c|Demonstrate that a Soldier with the Battalion's Backup active, as well his teammates receiving the Backup effect, can still be tickled}}
:Fair point. It's also quite easy to demonstrate this: Instead of stopping before jumping, keep running. Should also do the same jump at the beginning of the clip when there is no boost, to show where the jump is going to happen in the next runs. Mixing is good~ — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 16:20, 8 August 2012 (PDT)
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:: A few other ones that I am unsure about:
::http://youtu.be/wgKTjvpFdgo — [[User:Armisael |'''Armisael''']] <small>([[User_talk:Armisael |T]] | [[Special:Contributions/Armisael |C]])</small> 18:57, 8 August 2012 (PDT)
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::{{c|Demonstrate that it's not possible to tickle robots and giant robots on MVM}} (I don't think we often make MVM-related stuff on these demonstrations, unless it's an unique mechanic like the Projectile Shield)
:::http://youtu.be/G7fbqHvMaWA An actual functional link. — [[User:Armisael |'''Armisael''']] <small>([[User_talk:Armisael |T]] | [[Special:Contributions/Armisael |C]])</small> 07:55, 11 August 2012 (PDT)
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::{{c|Demonstrate that an enemy who is taunting does not get tickled, and that it receives no damage on critical hits}} [[File:User Gabrielwoj Signature Icon.png|15px|Headphones style when?|link=User:Gabrielwoj]] - [[File:User Gabrielwoj Signature 1.png|link=User:Gabrielwoj]] [[File:User Gabrielwoj Signature 2.png|link=Special:Contribs/Gabrielwoj]] - [[File:User Gabrielwoj Signature 3.png|link=User talk:Gabrielwoj]] 04:23, 24 April 2022 (UTC)
::::Is good, please upload~ — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 05:14, 13 August 2012 (PDT)
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:::The <code>tr_karma_rc1</code> map has water (see [[Sydney Sleeper]] demonstration [https://youtu.be/95qD-3XF8ws?t=132 here]). I use that map for demonstrations, as it is preferred (according to the Weapon Demonstration page). — [[User:Exaskliri|Exaskliri]] <sub>({{gender:Exaskliri|he/him|she/her|they/them}})</sub> ([[User talk:Exaskliri|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Exaskliri|contribs]]) 09:23, 24 April 2022 (UTC)
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:::No to the Quick-Fix + Bonk + Battalion's Backup things; as the project page states, non-stock item interactions are usually not demonstrated, in order to avoid having a full explosion of weapon interactions to demonstrate. The Quick Fix one also sounds like a bug, so usually that isn't worth demonstrating either because it has marginal utility and may eventually get patched, which would just create more video work later down the line. But all the other points are good to demonstrate, so +1 that a redo is in order for this one — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 04:49, 12 May 2022 (UTC)
  
=={{icon item|Beggar's Bazooka|16px}} [[Beggar's Bazooka]]==
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I have an idea on how the new video might be represented:
{{c|Needs to show overload jumping}}
 
  
=={{icon item|Crusader's Crossbow|16px}} [[Crusader's Crossbow]]==
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'''Part 1: The Main Gang (Pyro, Soldier, Medic, Spy)'''
The current Crusader's Crossbow video doesn't properly demonstrate how a larger distance affects damage when the Pyro airblasts it.  The third airblast had the medic at ~30 health, so I think it would be best if the player were at full health whenever the Pyro airblasts the arrow back at the medic.  I don't know if this is enough to warrant a re-do, but it's still something to consider.  [[User:CHINESE TIGER|CHINESE TIGER]] 09:40, 10 August 2012 (PDT)
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*Do the same actions as was done in the original video
:To include in next redo perhaps, but by itself not really necessary — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 05:14, 13 August 2012 (PDT)
 
  
=={{icon item|Escape Plan|16px}} [[Escape Plan]]==
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'''Part 2: Basic Interactions'''
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Do the same actions as was done in the original video, demonstrating Kritzkrieg on Soldier (via friendly Medic) and Jarate on Demoman (via friendly Sniper), plus another for Medic interactions.
:Where's the CRITS? [[File:Hinaomi-sig.png]] [[User:Hinaomi|Hinaomi]] <small>([[User talk:Hinaomi|talk]]) - ([[Special:Contributions/Hinaomi|contributions]])</small> 05:05, 11 July 2012 (PDT)
 
::Okey , i will redo it. [[File:Charger 2.png|20px|]] [[User:Karmacharger|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Karmacharger</span>]] 01:54  ,  7/13/2012 (PDT)
 
:::http://youtu.be/1jD4V_kJgRs [[File:Charger 2.png|20px|]] [[User:Karmacharger|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Karmacharger</span>]] 5:03  ,  7/18/2012 (PDT)
 
::::Go slower please~ At leasve leave enough time for everyone to die, don't move right on to the next target while they're still screaming >: Also, slight cut in the music at the end of the video — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 12:12, 19 July 2012 (PDT)
 
:Did we really need to show the speed comparison with 1-health Soldier and Scout? <small>— ''The preceding unsigned comment was added by'' '''[[User:Boynedmaster|Boynedmaster]]''' ([[User talk:Boynedmaster|talk]]) • ([[Special:Contributions/Boynedmaster|contribs]]) </small>
 
::http://youtu.be/_RioflLC_cg [[File:Charger 2.png|20px|]] [[User:Karmacharger|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Karmacharger</span>]] 5:34  ,  7/22/2012 (PDT)
 
:::Very bad music mixing at 0:31 - 0:34 and at 1:01 - 1:05 and at 1:30 - 1:34 :( Is all~ — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 14:21, 26 July 2012 (PDT)
 
::::[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PkpTF04Zx84 Changed music , hope it's good now] [[File:Charger 2.png|20px|]] [[User:Karmacharger|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Karmacharger</span>]] 6:53  ,  7/27/2012 (PDT)
 
:::::Still a very audible click at 1:31 >: — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 17:10, 1 August 2012 (PDT)
 
::::::http://youtu.be/QfkK153b9bk [[File:Charger 2.png|20px|]] [[User:Karmacharger|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Karmacharger</span>]] 1:46  ,  8/2/2012 (PDT)
 
:::::::Still kinda rough but it's ok. Please upload this version~ — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 16:20, 8 August 2012 (PDT)
 
::::::::http://www.mediafire.com/?homaz1ci4j5hhbb [[File:Charger 2.png|20px|]] [[User:Karmacharger|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Karmacharger</span>]] 8:51  ,  8/9/2012 (PDT)
 
  
=={{icon item|Grenade Launcher|16px}} [[Grenade Launcher]]==
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'''Part 2a:'''
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# Approach friendly Kritzkrieg Medic, who has full charge
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# Get charged with the Kritzkrieg buff
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# Keep punching the enemy Soldier until the buff wears off
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# Punch again while the buff is off, and keep doing it until the Soldier dies
  
I don't know if these are valid reason but in the video, it shows that the sticky launcher is primary and on top and the grenade launcher is in the middle. Shouldn't it look like this http://steamcommunity.com/id/Massacrejr/screenshot/938124819565496958?tab=public? Also in the comment section someone did point out that he killed a spy, I thought that the spy was only meant for taunt kills. I don't know if these are huge reason to re-do it, but I was just pointing it out. [[File:Painted Batter's Helmet C36C2D.png|16px|]][[User:MassacreJr|<span style="font-size:13px;line-height:16px;font-family:TF2 Build;sans-serif;" class="genuine">MassacreJr</span>]] 19:58, 28 July 2012 (PDT)
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'''Part 2b:'''
:Nah. It's an old demo but not really big reasons to redo it. The Spy killing is pretty funny though. I guess it effectively demonstrates splash damage — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 17:10, 1 August 2012 (PDT)
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# Approach friendly Sniper holding Jarate
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# Let the Sniper throw Jarate at the enemy Demoman
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# Attack the Demoman normally while he is Jarated
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# Attack the Demoman from behind while he is Jarated
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# Kill the Demoman normally again while he is Jarated
  
=={{icon item|Lollichop|16px}} [[Lollichop]]==
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'''Part 2c:'''
Taunt sound fx that was patched in on [[August_3,_2012_Patch]] --[[User:Org|Org]] 06:17, 12 August 2012 (PDT)
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# '''(This is where the new stuff begins)''' Approach an enemy Medic who is healing a <s>friendly</s> enemy Scout with his Medi Gun
:That patch was actually a fix for a problem that was introduced after the current video was recorded. No need to redo. — [[User:Armisael |'''Armisael''']] <small>([[User_talk:Armisael |T]] | [[Special:Contributions/Armisael |C]])</small> 10:58, 12 August 2012 (PDT)
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# Attack the Scout from the front and behind
::Oh, nevermind then --[[User:Org|Org]] 15:11, 12 August 2012 (PDT)
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# Enemy Medic activate Medi Gun invulnerability
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# Do the same as Step 2 onto Scout except while Übercharged
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# Do the same as Step 4 except on Medic
  
=={{icon item|Medi Gun|16px}} [[Medi Gun]]==
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'''Part 3: Versus Mittens Heavy'''
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# Approach the enemy Mittens Heavy
The current weapon demonstration does not display that you cannot ubercharge someone carrying the intelligence. [[User:OrangeJuicePanda|OrangeJuicePanda]] 15:29, 1 August 2012 (PDT)
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# Attack the Mittens Heavy with your Holiday Punch. Watch him laugh.
:True it's needed to show that , so let me try on it. [[File:Charger 2.png|20px|]] [[User:Karmacharger|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Karmacharger</span>]] 6:54  ,  8/2/2012 (PDT)
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# Let the Mittens Heavy attack you with his Holiday Punch. Watch yourself laugh.
::Also don't forget to show that you also can't ubercharge yourself if you are carrying it.[[User:OrangeJuicePanda|OrangeJuicePanda]] 21:18, 2 August 2012 (PDT)
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# Mittens Heavy will swap out Holiday Punch for Minigun.
:::Got it. [[File:Charger 2.png|20px|]] [[User:Karmacharger|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Karmacharger</span>]] 12:24  ,  8/3/2012 (PDT)
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# Attack the Heavy with your Holiday Punch.
::::http://youtu.be/dHm0kvVgh8A , at 3:05 i know the ubercharge HUD meter is not same as the [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-jbQGDGEwE current medigun video] at 3:23. i tired each hud on the Weapon Demonstration Splitscreen HUDs_0 3 way splitscreen none of them is same as the current medigun video at 3:23. [[File:Charger 2.png|20px|]] [[User:Karmacharger|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Karmacharger</span>]] 1:45  ,  8/5/2012 (PDT)
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# Swap your Holiday Punch for the Shotgun
::::Things~
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# Mittens Heavy will swap out Minigun for Holiday Punch
* There is a frame of full black between the backpack view and the first game clip. It makes the screen blink
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# Let the Mittens Heavy attack you with his Holiday Punch.
* Are you using an srcdemo shutter angle of 360 or something? It looks very blurry. Please don't use more than 180 degrees. This applies to the other demonstrations too, except the Alien Swarm Parasite because it would take too long to re-render all of that
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# '''(This is where the new stuff begins)''' Jump, and while mid-air let the Mittens Heavy attack you with his Holiday Punch. There should be no laugh.
* Please use 10-seconds intervals in the 3-way split-screen comparison, like the other medigun demos. This is important, as the heal numbers are very different as you can see by the numbers shown in this video (the same values, at the beginning)
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# Go behind the Mitten Heavy's back
* In the ubercharge clip at 3:30, when the uber is at 50% or so, move in front of the heavy to show that you too are invincible
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# Let the Mittens Heavy jump, and attack the Mittens Heavy with your Holiday Punch. There should be no laugh.
* In the spy ubercharge clip, before ubering, have the spy change disguise to show if healing continues, then remove the disguise to show that healing stops, then re-disguise, re-heal, uber, then again change the disguise (in the middle of the uber) and break the disguise (still in the middle of the uber)
 
* The can't-uber-someone-with-the-intel could be demonstrated better:
 
** Have two BLU bots (heavy and a sniper or something), and one RED soldier aiming at the desk, with the intel intact on there, uber ready
 
** Uber the heavy
 
** Make the heavy pick up the intel (while being ubered) to show the uber drop
 
** While the uber is still going on, switch between the heavy and the sniper to show that the uber still works on regular bots
 
** While the uber is still going on, have the Soldier fire at the heavy to show that the uber does not work on him (do this at the same time as the previous step)
 
:Not easy (you probably need a human to help you insted of bots) but I think it would be clearer that way. Maybe it won't be clear if the uber is too short and not all of this can be demonstrated properly because there is not enough time. If that is the case, then go for something simpler (uber heavy, heavy walks to pick up flag, uber dies).
 
* If you're going to show ubercharge-intelligence interaction, you should also show cannot-cap-point-with-ubercharge-but-can-defend-it, and cannot-move-cart-with-ubercharge-but-can-block-it
 
That should do it~ — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 16:20, 8 August 2012 (PDT)
 
:::::You should be able to fix the hud in the 3:23 clip with some very minor tinkering, by the way. — [[User:Armisael |'''Armisael''']] <small>([[User_talk:Armisael |T]] | [[Special:Contributions/Armisael |C]])</small> 13:38, 10 August 2012 (PDT)
 
::::::@Armisael That's what i headace for ,  i can't find the same hud as the current video (3 way split-screen) i tired both "3-splitscreen Demo - ammo & health" and "3-splitscreen Demo - no ammo & health" okey after in game the ubercharge Meter hud is still isn't same as the current video...i can't do anything about it. [[File:Charger 2.png|20px|]] [[User:Karmacharger|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Karmacharger</span>]] 12:38  ,  8/11/2012 (PDT)
 
:If you open up <code>tf/scripts/hudlayout</code>, go to the <code>"HudMedicCharge</code> and change the <code>"xpos"</code> value to <code>"664"</code>, it should fix that problem. — [[User:Armisael |'''Armisael''']] <small>([[User_talk:Armisael |T]] | [[Special:Contributions/Armisael |C]])</small> 03:30, 11 August 2012 (PDT)
 
::Something has changed the ubercharge meter goes to left , or can you just upload the hudlayout.res and send to my talk? that would not be hard...mind to help? [[File:Charger 2.png|20px|]] [[User:Karmacharger|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Karmacharger</span>]] 2:27  ,  8/12/2012 (PDT)
 
:::My bad. It's <code>"r414"</code>. This time I actually tested it, even. — [[User:Armisael |'''Armisael''']] <small>([[User_talk:Armisael |T]] | [[Special:Contributions/Armisael |C]])</small> 11:39, 11 August 2012 (PDT)
 
::::Thanks alot! it's worked. [[File:Charger 2.png|20px|]] [[User:Karmacharger|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Karmacharger</span>]] 11:30  ,  8/13/2012 (PDT)
 
  
=={{icon item|Original|16px}} [[Original]]==
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'''Part 4: Spy Interactions'''
On the project page, it says to use the [[unique]] or [[vintage]] quality for the weapon, in the current demonstration for [[The Original]], it is in the [[genuine]] quality. Should we redo it? If so, I'll do it [[User:Ben10508|Ben10508]] 21:37, 29 July 2012 (PDT)
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View from the Heavy's and Spy's points of view, with a smaller video on the top-right (or something like that) for the Spy's point of view.
: Nope. Genuine is also allow I believe. [[File:Painted Batter's Helmet C36C2D.png|16px|]][[User:MassacreJr|<span style="font-size:13px;line-height:16px;font-family:TF2 Build;sans-serif;" class="genuine">MassacreJr</span>]] 21:57, 29 July 2012 (PDT)
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# Approach the enemy Spy
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# Let the enemy Spy cloak
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# Attack the Spy with your Holiday Punch from behind. There should be no laugh.
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# Let the enemy Spy uncloak and disguise as any class (maybe the Heavy again)
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# Attack the Spy with your Holiday Punch from behind. There should be no laugh.
  
==[[Image:Telespin.png|16px]] [[Teleporter]]==
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'''Part 5: Taunts and Water'''
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# Let the enemy Engineer taunt from his Shotgun. It should be the one where he dances around.
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# While the enemy Engineer is taunting, attack him from behind with the Holiday Punch. There should be no laugh.
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# Repeat Steps 1 and 2 except attack him from the front.
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# The enemy Engineer runs to the water. Follow him into the water.
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# Attack him from behind with the Holiday Punch. There should be no laugh.
  
New distinct building animation; sappers cannot be placed on a teleporter while it is building; teleporters cannot be wrenched while they are going through the building animation; teleporter exit now always faces entrance. [[File:User_Upgrade_Signature.png|link=User:Upgrade]] 02:41, 3 August 2012 (PDT)
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'''Part 6: Robots'''
:http://youtu.be/uBJimAisPMw What'd I screw up? — [[User:Armisael |'''Armisael''']] <small>([[User_talk:Armisael |T]] | [[Special:Contributions/Armisael |C]])</small> 21:51, 4 August 2012 (PDT)
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# Approach an enemy Robot, preferably the Holiday Punch Heavy Robot.
::At 0:08: "Hit '< not bound >' to Cancel." Very minor issue. I loved that you turned around for the telefrag bit so that we can't see you teleport the bots. [[User:Darkid|<span style="color:red">Darkid</span>]] ([[Image:Item icon Carouser's Capotain.png|21px|link=User_talk:Darkid|alt=talk]]|[[Image:Item icon Camera Beard.png|21px|link=Special:Contributions/Darkid|alt=contribs]]) 11:49, 5 August 2012 (PDT)
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# Attack him with your Holiday Punch from the front, and then attack him from behind. There should be no laugh.
:::Unfortunate. At least it doesn't require me to re-record the demo, just re-render. — [[User:Armisael |'''Armisael''']] <small>([[User_talk:Armisael |T]] | [[Special:Contributions/Armisael |C]])</small> 11:58, 5 August 2012 (PDT)
 
:Could you:
 
* Build the teleports on terrain where the little metal things on the floor don't clip with the teleport blueprint
 
* Spawn the RED sniper bot not on the teleporter (same position as the BLU one before) and hame him walk and wait instead of just being there randomly
 
* May as well use another class than a Sniper, for the only purpose of looking different than the BLU Sniper just before (that way it doesn't look liek the Sniper changed teams or something)
 
* Wait-and-stare a little before picking things up (2:25)
 
* Not put the Soldier there (it looks as if the medic is healing the heavy, and SUDDENLY: Soldier); put it next to the heavy or something (but not on the opposite side of the view, so that the heal beam doesn't go behind the heavy), making sure that both the soldier and the medic and the heavy are all visible at the same time (not easy but try it)
 
* For funsies, may want to have the spy taunt after telefragging if you want to (up to you)
 
— [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 16:20, 8 August 2012 (PDT)
 
::http://youtu.be/2J95ldEAKP4 — [[User:Armisael |'''Armisael''']] <small>([[User_talk:Armisael |T]] | [[Special:Contributions/Armisael |C]])</small> 18:58, 9 August 2012 (PDT)
 
:::Is good, please upload~ — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 05:14, 13 August 2012 (PDT)
 
  
=={{icon item|Unarmed Combat|16px}} [[Unarmed Combat]]==
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:Very detailed, nice. — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 22:48, 19 June 2022 (UTC)
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::By the way, I also think that it would be helpful to add a section dedicating to observing a duration comparison for all [[Schadenfreude]] taunts. I have a feeling that the length of the taunt has an impact on gameplay of the Holiday Punch. So maybe we could do a section where 9 Holiday Punch Heavies simultaneously attack one of each class, which demonstrates the time it would take to get out of the forced animation.  [[User:Qwertyxp2000|Qwertyxp2000]] ([[User talk:Qwertyxp2000|talk]]) 01:41, 22 June 2022 (UTC)
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:::Might be cool if only for the comedy of it all. — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 21:39, 31 July 2022 (UTC)
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::::On "Part 4 - Let the enemy Spy uncloak and disguise as any class (maybe the Heavy again)", why not make the Spy disguise as the Heavy, and make sure that the Holiday Punch is active? The Spy won't be able to laugh, but I wonder if you (the player), would laugh. In case that happens, then it would be important to also showcase trying to punch the Spy from behind without having him with the Holiday Punch active. [[File:User Gabrielwoj Signature Icon.png|15px|Headphones style when?|link=User:Gabrielwoj]] - [[File:User Gabrielwoj Signature 1.png|link=User:Gabrielwoj]] ▪ [[File:User Gabrielwoj Signature 2.png|link=Special:Contribs/Gabrielwoj]] - [[File:User Gabrielwoj Signature 3.png|link=User talk:Gabrielwoj]] 03:19, 18 February 2023 (UTC)
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:::::Actually, never mind. For some reason I thought you also laughed with who you just punched that is also wearing the mittens (it commonly happens when both Heavies hold their left clicks after being tickled). But, the Spy wearing the Holiday Punch may be the best scenario here, so it shows that the disguise is not lost (although make sure to show also without the mittens active, and, when the mittens is active for Spy, punch him from the back, then punch him from the front). [[File:User Gabrielwoj Signature Icon.png|15px|Headphones style when?|link=User:Gabrielwoj]] - [[File:User Gabrielwoj Signature 1.png|link=User:Gabrielwoj]] ▪ [[File:User Gabrielwoj Signature 2.png|link=Special:Contribs/Gabrielwoj]] - [[File:User Gabrielwoj Signature 3.png|link=User talk:Gabrielwoj]] 13:08, 18 February 2023 (UTC)
  
Fraps still won't allow the jigglebone prefect :( , is there any other recorder with "No Lags?" [[File:Charger 2.png|20px|]] [[User:Karmacharger|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Karmacharger</span>]] 8:50  ,  4 July 2012 (PDT)
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== {{Demo Header|Original}} ==
:There's the Source Recorder (records .TGAs that later have to be put togheter transformed into an .AVI file). You can check [http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=934312 this post from '09 on SPUF]. <span style="color:#385374;font-size:18px;font-family:TF2 Secondary">—</span> [[User:K1LL|<span style="color:#385374;font-size:18px;font-family:TF2 Secondary">kill</span>]] <span style="color:#385374;font-size:18px;font-family:TF2 Secondary">—</span> 20:32, 4 July 2012 (PDT)
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{{Reservation|[[User:MudkipOnYT|MudkipOnYT]] ([[User talk:MudkipOnYT|talk]]) 18:23, 5 April 2024 (UTC)}}
::That's what SrcDemo2 requires, so if he tried SrcDemo2 then he tried that too, by proxy. Also we have [[Help:Recording demos#Movie Creation Tutorial|help pages on the wiki itself about that]] — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 20:41, 4 July 2012 (PDT)
 
:It's not fraps doing that, fraps doesn't communicate with the game in any way. The fact that jigglebones don't work is because at some point in the game, the frame rate dropped under a threshold that the source engine considers "too low", at which point it disables jigglebones because it thinks that it will increase framerate. No, I don't know of any good recorder, but you did manage to get them working when you did the [[Holy Mackerel]] demo recently. Do what you did in that video and that's it~ — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 20:41, 4 July 2012 (PDT)
 
::The unarmed combat is significantly more finicky than the holy mackerel. Always has been. — [[User:Armisael |'''Armisael''']] <small>([[User_talk:Armisael |T]] | [[Special:Contributions/Armisael |C]])</small> 20:45, 4 July 2012 (PDT)
 
  
I got this guys, finally get the full Fraps version. [[User:Spam90675|Spam90675]] 07:33, 12 July 2012 (PDT)
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:You paid for it? ...Uh...well, if you did pay for it (and didn't "bypass a barrier"), I sure hope you know your computer is fast enough to handle 30+ fps on Fraps, because otherwise all that money will have been spent for nothing, and you'll have to use Source Recorder and SrcDemo2. If you just "bypassed a barrier," then have fun testing. Remember to read the requirements and guidelines for uploading a video. [[User:Mr. Vinderack|Mr. Vinderack, not as sober as you...thin..yah...]] 07:43, 12 July 2012 (PDT)
 
::I did, my laptop is brand new and top of te line, but I have one problem - Forced crits don't activate when I hold down Shift. I downloaded the right config, I checked multiple times, but it won't work. Someone mind explaining why? [[User:Spam90675|Spam90675]] 07:57, 12 July 2012 (PDT)
 
:::You paid for it or bypassed a barrier? And also, make sure you're holding down the left shift. [[User:Mr. Vinderack|Mr. Vinderack, not as sober as you...thin..yah...]] 07:59, 12 July 2012 (PDT)
 
::::I'd rather not get into it too much, as it isn't really your business, but I have the full version of Fraps. Also, I am making sure, it just doesn't work. EDIT: Turns out the commands "+critsplease" and "-critsplease" aren't recognized. Anybody know the reason why? [[User:Spam90675|Spam90675]] 08:01, 12 July 2012 (PDT)
 
:::::If you look at the bottom of the page, you'll see all of us are completely fine with cracked. I'm just concerned if you paid for it, because there's a large possibility it won't even work for the weapon demonstration. Stating that you didn't pay for it is okay. Anyway, regarding the crits not working, is everything else from weaponref.cfg working (i.e. is sv_cheats on 1, tf_weapon_criticals on 0, etc.)? [[User:Mr. Vinderack|Mr. Vinderack, not as sober as you...thin..yah...]] 08:16, 12 July 2012 (PDT)
 
EDIT: The problem has been fixed via Steam chat. Also, Spam is going to be using Source Recorder and SrcDemo2, as jigglebones didn't work with Fraps for him either.
 
:Jigglebones won't work in srcdemo2; I can guarantee you that. You need to use FRAPS (or some other screen capture program) and cl_jiggle_bone_framerate_cutoff 1. — [[User:Armisael |'''Armisael''']] <small>([[User_talk:Armisael |T]] | [[Special:Contributions/Armisael |C]])</small> 09:21, 12 July 2012 (PDT)
 
::Really? Jigglebones doesn't? That is unfortunate. Okay, I'll keep that in mind. [[User:Mr. Vinderack|Mr. Vinderack, not as sober as you...thin..yah...]] 10:05, 12 July 2012 (PDT)
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Gvp9Lpp_vk - Youtube link - just finished the video. If Jigglebones version is needed, please tell me. <small>— ''The preceding unsigned comment was added by'' '''[[User:Spam90675|Spam90675]]''' ([[User talk:Spam90675|talk]]) • ([[Special:Contributions/Spam90675|contribs]]) </small>
 
:::Few things:
 
* Quality seems a bit on the low side for high definition.
 
* Very fast-paced video. Slow it down a bit next time.
 
* During the Soldier segment, try to attack at a consistent rate. Waiting before the second hit is generally used for the Pyro segment.
 
* This might just be me, but if I am correct, as of the Pyromania Update, the Unarmed Combat should now have a taunt. If not, then disregard this.
 
Good for a first try! [[User:Mr. Vinderack|Mr. Vinderack, not as sober as you...thin..yah...]] 21:30, 12 July 2012 (PDT)
 
::::Actually, my first try was worse. However, since I uploaded that video, I made a new version, that includes jigglebones as well as the taunt. When the weapon turns inside out at the forced crits in this video, that's part of the actual weapon bug. Try it out yourself, if you'd like. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3hJadUrsWk4 [[User:Spam90675|Spam90675]] 22:36, 12 July 2012 (PDT)
 
::::::I will check it out soon. A bit busy right now. [[User:Mr. Vinderack|Mr. Vinderack, not as sober as you...thin..yah...]] 23:03, 12 July 2012 (PDT)
 
:This looks like upscaled-to-720p video. Are you sure you recorded at the right resolution and didn't set Fraps to record at half-size? Sound also sounds distorted. Perhaps you have some sort of audio driver program that modifies your sound to increase the bass or the treble or something, but this certainly doesn't sound like most demonstrations do. Also, jigglebones are .required, and this definitely won't do :( It's very hard to get them to work, but it is possible, or at least has been despite being hit-and-miss. Framerate looks a little pokey too — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 22:24, 13 July 2012 (PDT)
 
:: You watched the second version, right? The second version has jigglebones and (I think) fixed audio. Also, I have Fraps set to 60 FPS, full size, and loop uffer every 30 seconds. Anything I should change there? [[User:Spam90675|Spam90675]] 00:17, 14 July 2012 (PDT)
 
:::Yes, the second version has jigglebones but they're clearly not behaving correctly. Fraps isn't at fault for low framerate, Fraps just takes what it can get, and if it can't get enough frames, then... it can't get enough frames. So the framerate won't be 60 even if it's set to 60. 60 is just the maximum number of frames that fraps tries to take every second. — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 11:52, 14 July 2012 (PDT)
 
::::The bugs that are seen in the video are documented on the Wiki's page. Also, my laptop is top of the line, so if you're trying to imply that it'd my computer's fault, then you're wrong. [[User:Spam90675|Spam90675]] 05:32, 16 July 2012 (PDT)
 
:::::I am saying that this video has insufficient video quality, low framerate, and distorted audio. Whether that's because of bad hardware or bad drivers or faulty game engine or wrong recording settings or wrong encoding settings or a combination of these things doesn't matter; what matters is the result of that on the video. As for the jigglebones, whether it's a documented bug or not, it's a bug, and the behavior that they show on that second version makes the demonstration not very presentable, as you can see — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 00:46, 17 July 2012 (PDT)
 
  
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I'd say this is an incredibly low priority one, may not even be worth redoing.<br>[[User:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">GrampaSwood</font>]] ([[User talk:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) 11:23, 17 January 2023 (UTC)
  
=={{icon item|Wrangler|16px}} [[Wrangler]]==
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I hope I've done this correctly, I am just beginning to get to work setting up to film my demonstration — [[User:MudkipOnYT|MudkipOnYT]] ([[User talk:MudkipOnYT|talk]]) 18:23, 5 April 2024 (UTC)
The hand exhaust animation after firing for too long is not shown. I think it needs to be redone because of this. [[User:Xeoxer|Xeoxer]] 08:30, 27 July 2012 (PDT)
 
  
:My suggestion is let another guy reserved because this one is hard in Sentry Jump and Split-Screen carnage. [[File:Hinaomi-sig.png]] [[User:Hinaomi|Hinaomi]] <small>([[User talk:Hinaomi|talk]]) - ([[Special:Contributions/Hinaomi|contributions]])</small> 22:21, 31 July 2012 (PDT)
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[https://drive.google.com/file/d/1AFvw7WW2T2ND179t1MBsemdeGDrhApZV/view?usp=share_link Here is the link] to my finished demonstration, I noticed other users who uploaded to Google Drive being told by the Moderators that their videos were in 30FPS. This one is at 60FPS, it just doesn't play at 60FPS in the Google Drive embedded player, it must be downloaded. Awaiting feedback! — [[User:MudkipOnYT|MudkipOnYT]] ([[User talk:MudkipOnYT|talk]]) 12:10, 6 April 2024 (UTC)
::My suggestion would be that you wait until wind gets back from vacation and indicates whether this one is actually up for redo. Weapons that might be up for redos also go here while we decide. [[User:Armisael |'''Armisael''']] <small>([[User_talk:Armisael |T]] | [[Special:Contributions/Armisael |C]])</small> 03:50, 1 August 2012 (PDT)
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:In the firing angle demonstrations, wait for about 3 seconds before commencing the firing. The rightwards angle demonstration is a bit too quick. Same with the frontal angle demonstration. Also, for the rocket jumping demonstration, don't wiggle around the screen so much during those idle phases; 1:29-1:31 are quite noticeably obvious. [[User:Qwertyxp2000|Qwertyxp2000]] ([[User talk:Qwertyxp2000|talk]]) 22:03, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
  
Yeah... I'll let someone else do this one. BTW: when is Wind gonna be back? [[User:Ben10508|Ben10508]] 06:11, 1 August 2012 (PDT)
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Yeah I notice all of that now, can just go and re-record it at some point, I also interrupted the reload animation at the beginning. - [[User:MudkipOnYT|MudkipOnYT]] ([[User talk:MudkipOnYT|talk]]) 10:05, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
:i did the current demonstration , i would like to redo this myself again. But i still have to wait for wind enjoyed his vacation. [[File:Charger 2.png|20px|]] [[User:Karmacharger|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Karmacharger</span>]] 9:17  ,   8/1/2012 (PDT)
 
:Not really worth redoing over just a cosmetic animation that doesn't affect gameplay — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 17:10, 1 August 2012 (PDT)
 
::Melee makeover also just shows different swing animations that don't affect gameplay. [[User:Xeoxer|Xeoxer]] 00:47, 7 August 2012 (PDT)
 
:::Nope, because it doesn't necessary (Purely Cosmetics) but melee makeover is affect in gameplay (Different swing animation to tell that attack is Critical hit).[[File:Hinaomi-sig.png]] [[User:Hinaomi|Hinaomi]] <small>([[User talk:Hinaomi|talk]]) - ([[Special:Contributions/Hinaomi|contributions]])</small> 02:16, 7 August 2012 (PDT)
 
  
=Pyro melee makeover=
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== {{Demo Header|Power Up Canteen}} ==
=={{icon item|Homewrecker|16px}} [[Homewrecker]]==
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{{c|doesn't show Canteen Specialist upgrades like Battery Canteens demo does}}
{{c|No special changes.}} — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 20:11, 10 July 2012 (PDT)
 
:{{c|Reserved by Mr. Vinderack}}
 
Done. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZS-TCb8xXQ Sorry if it's a bit fast. [[User:Mr. Vinderack|Mr. Vinderack, not as sober as you...thin..yah...]] 23:57, 12 July 2012 (PDT)
 
:Try not to be so twitchy with the camera in the first clip; long and slow and (more importantly) constant-speed camera movements are better than twitchy camera swings followed by another one to correct for the twitchiness error of the former. Also put the Spy in better view in the sapper clip. Is all~ (Also you don't have to go back to the middle of the map to taunt) — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 22:24, 13 July 2012 (PDT)
 
::Alright, I'll get these done. And yeah, I noticed the first clip was not very polished. Sorry. [[User:Mr. Vinderack|Mr. Vinderack, not as sober as you...thin..yah...]] 22:30, 13 July 2012 (PDT)
 
:::Regarding crosshair size and type, I chose the exact same settigs for the default crosshair as listed on a website that is apparently now offline (just tried to visit it again for the link), but I guess those were incorrect (come to think of it, my crosshair never changed when switching weapons). Can someone kindly present them here? I want the Homewreccker demonstration to use this improvement. Thanks. [[User:Mr. Vinderack|Mr. Vinderack, not as sober as you...thin..yah...]] 07:52, 18 July 2012 (PDT)
 
::::Add <code>cl_crosshair_scale 32</code> and <code>cl_crosshair_file ""</code> to your weaponref.cfg. This should force your crosshair back to default every time you exec that, but check the multiplayer options menu once to make sure that those did take. — [[User:Armisael |'''Armisael''']] <small>([[User_talk:Armisael |T]] | [[Special:Contributions/Armisael |C]])</small> 08:12, 18 July 2012 (PDT)
 
I'll have this done today or early tomorrow. Sorry for the long wait. [[User:Mr. Vinderack|Mr. Vinderack, not as sober as you...thin..yah...]] 09:06, 20 July 2012 (PDT)
 
:[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bcdqV5QZRFw This should do it.] I realize I went back to the middle to taunt, but that was to be consistent with Akuago's...cosnistency. Anyway, hope it's good. (Used SrcDemo2). [[User:Mr. Vinderack|Mr. Vinderack, not as sober as you...thin..yah...]] 20:07, 22 July 2012 (PDT)
 
:Please center the dispenser better. In the clip on the right during the first split-screen, it is clearly not centered. You can position them exactly by using getpos/setpos/bot_teleport. That's the only thing I see~ — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 14:21, 26 July 2012 (PDT)
 
::Really? I used all of those... Odd, but I guess I'll redo it. It's strange, because I used setpos/setang for myself. I guess the engineer didn't teleport to the exact same place. [[User:Mr. Vinderack|Mr. Vinderack, not as sober as you...thin..yah...]] 14:52, 26 July 2012 (PDT)
 
Damn, super busy again. I'll have these done as soon as I can. Sorry. [[User:Mr. Vinderack|Mr. Vinderack, not as sober as you...thin..yah...]] 17:49, 30 July 2012 (PDT)
 
  
:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KNRJGjJa3yo Given that this video hasn't been progressing especially quickly. — [[User:Armisael |'''Armisael''']] <small>([[User_talk:Armisael |T]] | [[Special:Contributions/Armisael |C]])</small> 18:57, 8 August 2012 (PDT)
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I feel like I can do a demonstration for this one. But my canteen is a crafted version so it has my username on it. Is that acceptable ? [[User:Kaezle|Kaezle]] ([[User talk:Kaezle|talk]]) 04:21, 25 August 2019 (UTC)
::It's fine, I was doing fine on it and then suddenly schedule hell arose. I haven't even really had time to use the computer lately. Hopefully, sometime in the near future my schedule will allow an opening to continue weapon demonstrations, but for now consider me on hiatus. [[User:Mr. Vinderack|Mr. Vinderack, not as sober as you...thin..yah...]] 19:56, 8 August 2012 (PDT)
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: If you right click on it you should be able to remove that. [[User:Naleksuh|Naleksuh]] ([[User talk:Naleksuh|talk]]) 06:22, 25 August 2019 (UTC)
::Is good, please upload~ — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 05:14, 13 August 2012 (PDT)
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::I think the stock version (Normal quality) should be used over the Unique one, considering all players have it. [[File:User Gabrielwoj Signature Icon.png|15px|link=User:Gabrielwoj]] - [[File:User Gabrielwoj Signature 1.png|link=User:Gabrielwoj]] ▪ [[File:User Gabrielwoj Signature 2.png|link=Special:Contribs/Gabrielwoj]] - [[File:User Gabrielwoj Signature 3.png|link=User talk:Gabrielwoj]] 04:23, 14 August 2021 (UTC)
  
=={{icon item|Sharpened Volcano Fragment|16px}} [[Sharpened Volcano Fragment]]==
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{{c|No special changes.}} — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 20:11, 10 July
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{{c|Show that a dropped plate doesn't heal}}
  
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWrCYvtuffk I already got it [[User:Ben10508|Ben10508]] 20:44, 11 July 2012 (PDT)
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{{reservation|[[User:Mediarch|<font color="ec5c69">'''Mediarch'''</font>]] [[File:User Mediarch PFP.png|25px]][[User:Mediarch|<font color="#ff66cc"> ♥ </font>]][[User talk:Mediarch|<font color="ec5c69">'''Talk'''</font>]][[User:Mediarch|<font color="#ff66cc"> ♥ </font>]][[Special:Contributions/Mediarch|<font color="ec5c69">'''My Edits'''</font>]] 19:57, 20 May 2024 (UTC)}}
:...This is awkward. I mean no offense by this, but you're kind of...supposed to respect reservations. If you wanted the weapon that badly, you should have asked Mellotaku first. As for the video, it's a good layout and demonstration, but the quality is really choppy. Like I said, Source Recorder and SrcDemo2 are a must for these weapon demonstrations. Fraps just doesn't cut it most of the time. That is all. [[User:Mr. Vinderack|Mr. Vinderack, not as sober as you...thin..yah...]] 20:58, 11 July 2012 (PDT)
 
::No, they are certainly preferred (because they tend to produce better results) but they are not requirements for any demonstration (except the Saxxy demonstration) and are sometimes necessary. I'm sure that's what you meant to say, but you said it in a way that made it look absolute, and that there was no question about it. — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 22:24, 13 July 2012 (PDT)
 
  
Ahh, sorry. I already had it done, why not, know know? *chuckles faintly* I sent Mellotaku an apology message on his talk page. Also, I don't really see what's wrong with the quality, I think it's fine [[User:Ben10508|Ben10508]] 21:15, 11 July 2012 (PDT)
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Hinaomi recommended this, so might as well try it. I would be up to make it if it's a valid reason [[User:GrampaSwood|GrampaSwood]] ([[User talk:GrampaSwood|talk]]) 12:02, 13 September 2019 (UTC)
:Firstly and most importantly, thank you for understanding the reservation system. I am glad to not have to start an argument. As for the quality, watch a recent weapon demonstration (Scout and Soldier melee makeovers) to see what I mean. Your quality is definitely not bad, but I don't think it's 30 or more frames per second. I should probably also make it clear that by quality I mainly meant framerate. xD. Anyway, trust me, you will not regret using Source Recorder and SrcDemo2. I will definitely help as much as it takes, because those tools produce magical results (and by the way, Wind was the one who made SrcDemo2 :P). If you have any more questions, don't be afraid to ask. I'm friendly, and so is everyone else (hopefully). [[User:Mr. Vinderack|Mr. Vinderack, not as sober as you...thin..yah...]] 21:50, 11 July 2012 (PDT)
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:Not sure I follow. You mean that picking up a dropped plate restocks the sandvich? That's already demonstrated... — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 00:38, 16 September 2019 (UTC)
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::Show that picking up a sandvich that's dropped via mouse2 doesn't heal.<br>[[User:GrampaSwood|GrampaSwood]] ([[User talk:GrampaSwood|talk]]) 05:30, 16 September 2019 (UTC)
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:::Oh OK, yeah. Might replace the existing pickup from full health then, so that it doesn't make the clip longer. — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 04:28, 23 September 2019 (UTC)
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::::Sure. Yes, please replace the existing pickup. [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 04:11, 24 April 2020 (UTC)
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:Just talked on the IRC channel today ([https://irc.biringa.com/channel/tfwiki/2022-04-18.html#07-53-57 log]) and GrampaSwood willingly relinquished the reservation for me. I am gonna focus on my reservations first, though. — [[User:Exaskliri|Exaskliri]] <sub>(they/them)</sub> ([[User talk:Exaskliri|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Exaskliri|contribs]]) 15:54, 18 April 2022 (UTC)
  
Thanks for your understanding. I'll take your word for using the other recording softwares. Didn't know Wind made SrcDemo2 :0. For now can we use this video? For my later one's, I'll use Source Recorder next time. [[User:Ben10508|Ben10508]] 21:58, 11 July 2012 (PDT)
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Here's [https://drive.google.com/file/d/1A2K5061AnWDvaXwJvSn98fTeI9XRARPR/view?usp=sharing Sandvich demonstration] ready for feedback [[User:Mediarch|<font color="ec5c69">'''Mediarch'''</font>]] [[File:User Mediarch PFP.png|25px]][[User:Mediarch|<font color="#ff66cc"> ♥ </font>]][[User talk:Mediarch|<font color="ec5c69">'''Talk'''</font>]][[User:Mediarch|<font color="#ff66cc"> ♥ </font>]][[Special:Contributions/Mediarch|<font color="ec5c69">'''My Edits'''</font>]] 19:59, 21 May 2024 (UTC)
:You'll have to ask Wind. I try to help around a lot, but I'm not actually in charge of the project (I'm flattered you thought I was, though. Thanks! :) ). Also, I bet he's fine with it, but you might want to get Mellotaku's approval too, just in case. [[User:Mr. Vinderack|Mr. Vinderack, not as sober as you...thin..yah...]] 22:15, 11 July 2012 (PDT)
 
  
Ha, I already knew that Wind was like, God here xD. <small>— ''The preceding unsigned comment was added by'' '''[[User:Ben10508|Ben10508]]''' ([[User talk:Ben10508|talk]]) • ([[Special:Contributions/Ben10508|contribs]]) </small>
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== {{Demo Header|Self-Aware Beauty Mark}} ==
:So you know Ben,  the reservation system exists to help minor contributors like you. If no one respected reservations and multiple people submitted videos for the same weapon, the experienced, major contributors would make higher quality demos much faster than the new contributors, and the new people would never get a video in. Ignoring other peoples' reservations is a good way to get other people to ignore yours. — [[User:Armisael |'''Armisael''']] <small>([[User_talk:Armisael |T]] | [[Special:Contributions/Armisael |C]])</small> 07:47, 12 July 2012 (PDT)
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{{Reservation|[[User:KingK|KingK]] ([[User talk:KingK|talk]]) 04:16, 6 January 2024 (UTC)}}
::Indeed. Just so we're on the same page, don't take any of this harshly. Just think of it as a first-time experience, and keep it in mind if the situation ever comes up again. [[User:Mr. Vinderack|Mr. Vinderack, not as sober as you...thin..yah...]] 07:49, 12 July 2012 (PDT)
 
  
Well yeah this is my first time making this mistake. I'll try not to the this again. I'm still waiting for Mellotaku to reply to my apology. Thanks [[User:Ben10508|Ben10508]] 08:03, 12 July 2012 (PDT)
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:Framerate is indeed a little choppy but acceptable, but there's also:
 
* First clip ends too soon (it's supposed to end after the camera finished zooming in)
 
* At 0:48, you're a bit far from the heavy, to the extent that if the viewer has sound off he would think you just missed the Heavy. Also, for such clips, it is usually best to show the Spy disguising during the clip, not starting the clip while the Spy is already disguised, much like you did for the spy cloaking in the next clip (starting with the cloak already on would be awkward). Additionally, you started in a position where the weapon viewmodel completely covered up the Heavy on the left. This is bad because the first few seconds o pause at the beginning of a clip are there to help the viewer see where he is and what's where and what is happening, so having only half of the elements of the scene visible hinders this.
 
* Since the Medic dies in one hit (how unfortunate) with crits, I guess you need another enemy with higher HP to show the afterburn on crit. Although I guess the fire on Medic's corpse partially demonstrates that... <small>— ''The preceding unsigned comment was added by'' '''[[User:WindPower|Wind]]''' ([[User talk:WindPower|talk]]) • ([[Special:Contributions/WindPower|contribs]]) </small>
 
  
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{{c|Extinguish an ally reduces the cooldown by 20%}}
  
http://youtu.be/mpaynGfsFSM — [[User:Armisael |'''Armisael''']] <small>([[User_talk:Armisael |T]] | [[Special:Contributions/Armisael |C]])</small> 13:37, 18 July 2012 (PDT)
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[https://imgur.com/a/4bwI65r A funny bug] but i think i better waiting for Valve to fix it. - '''[[User:Thedop|Thedop]]''' 10:35, 12 October 2018 (UTC+1)
  
::<code>...This is awkward. I mean no offense by this, but you're kind of...supposed to respect reservations.</code>
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Hey there, I decided I'd help out on this
::Does that ring any bells? [[User:Ben10508|Ben10508]] 18:46, 18 July 2012 (PDT)
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Hopefully around Jan 8-9 would be where I have everything for this demonstration. [[User:KingK|KingK]] ([[User talk:KingK|talk]]) 04:16, 6 January 2024 (UTC)
:::There's a difference between submitting a video to a weapon that someone else reserved 24 hours prior and one that the previous person has not posted to in a week, especially when the previous person has been active elsewhere on the page. A reservation isn't a license to sit on a weapon and do nothing for extended periods of time. [[User:Armisael |'''Armisael''']] <small>([[User_talk:Armisael |T]] | [[Special:Contributions/Armisael |C]])</small> 19:02, 18 July 2012 (PDT)
 
  
I was working on it [[User:Ben10508|Ben10508]] 19:15, 18 July 2012 (PDT)
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Alright I got it all right here.
:Armisael's video is good, but will wait a few days for Ben10508 — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 12:12, 19 July 2012 (PDT)
 
  
Quick question, I know how to get a Spy to disguise as someone, but I have to be a Spy to do it, as said on the project page. How do you make the Spy disguise like in Armisael's video? [[User:Ben10508|Ben10508]] 17:06, 20 July 2012 (PDT)
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[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JM1TOt4zxiw Video]  
:You'll probably need another person to come and help you out. If you need it, I'll help. [[User:Mr. Vinderack|Mr. Vinderack, not as sober as you...thin..yah...]] 17:52, 20 July 2012 (PDT)
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- [[User:KingK|KingK]] ([[User talk:KingK|talk]]) 03:51, 10 January 2024 (UTC)
::Nope, you just need to force bot to change to the disguise kit and make that bot disguise to someone. [[File:Hinaomi-sig.png]] [[User:Hinaomi|Hinaomi]] <small>([[User talk:Hinaomi|talk]]) - ([[Special:Contributions/Hinaomi|contributions]])</small> 18:00, 20 July 2012 (PDT)
 
:::You could, but for the sake of easiness, I'll just help him out. [[User:Mr. Vinderack|Mr. Vinderack, not as sober as you...thin..yah...]] 18:30, 20 July 2012 (PDT)
 
  
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yNyle4coG-U I added a Sniper to kinda replace the Medic. BTW, thanks Mr. Vinderack for helping me out [[User:Ben10508|Ben10508]] 15:42, 21 July 2012 (PDT)
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:Seems like your graphics settings aren't on the max, the windows on tr_karma also seem to be bugged. For the first clip, your kill sound should be turned off. For the second clip, make sure to switch all the bots back to the Shotgun. For the third clip, the clip is quite laggy and the sound suddenly increases halfway through. Fourth clip looks fine, albeit with some quality issues as mentioned before. For the first Spy clip, make sure to wait until he's fully invisible to throw the Jarate on him. Splitting up the cloaked and disguised Spy clip like this is better imo, rather than having it be one clip like the original. In the clip where you extinguish 3 teammates, it's fine to just use a single Heavy for that rather than 3 teammates. Maybe 3 clips at the same time would also be suitable for this: one to show off no extinguish, one to show off 1 extinguish, and one to show off extinguishing 2 teammates. It would show that 1 ally extinguished and 2 allies extinguished equally reduces the cooldown.
:You mean a heavy. Can you approach that heavy in such a way that the axe viewmodel is not in the middle of the minigun model when you stand close? Attack from slightly-sideways to avoid this. Thanks~ — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 23:07, 21 July 2012 (PDT)
 
  
Alright, but should I keep the Sniper? [[User:Ben10508|Ben10508]] 05:53, 22 July 2012 (PDT)
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:Other than that, remember to stand still between each clip. It seems like this was most notable on the clip with you and the Heavy being extinguished. The minimum acceptable video quality would be 1080p 60fps, perhaps recording only at that resolution rather than 4k will help with running the game a bit smoother, as currently some clips are very laggy even on 1080p.<br>[[File:BLU Wiki Cap.png|20px|link=List of Wiki Cap owners]] | [[Help:Group rights|<span style="color:green;font-family:TF2 Build;">s</span>]] | [[User:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">GrampaSwood</font>]] [[File:PraisetheSun.png|20px|alt=Praise the Sun!]] ([[User talk:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) ([[Special:Contributions/GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">contribs</font>]]) 11:48, 10 January 2024 (UTC)
:No, not really. He doesn't serve much purpose — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 14:21, 26 July 2012 (PDT)
 
  
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ArsHxZj8oH8 [[User:Ben10508|Ben10508]] 18:44, 26 July 2012 (PDT)
 
::Is good, please upload~ — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 17:10, 1 August 2012 (PDT)
 
  
http://www.mediafire.com/?v7nx52awp52b36m [[User:Ben10508|Ben10508]] 18:14, 1 August 2012 (PDT)
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::Aight will get working on it, Thanks Grampa Swood  [[User:KingK|KingK]] ([[User talk:KingK|talk]]) 11:52, 10 January 2024 (UTC)
:It still has the blurry borders that the SMG demo does.
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::Here's the newly updated video
:* [http://puu.sh/NO1Q Ben's SVF demo]
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::[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_3_hfEnpB4 Video]
:* [http://puu.sh/NO3e The SMG demo]
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::[[User:KingK|KingK]] ([[User talk:KingK|talk]]) 15:54, 12 January 2024 (UTC)
:* [http://puu.sh/NO1y One of my demos (for comparison)]
 
: [[User:Armisael |'''Armisael''']] <small>([[User_talk:Armisael |T]] | [[Special:Contributions/Armisael |C]])</small> 18:30, 1 August 2012 (PDT)
 
  
Wind already said it is good :3 [[User:Ben10508|Ben10508]] 18:35, 1 August 2012 (PDT)
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:::The video still looks laggy. It was not recorded at 60 fps. Also your antialiasing settings are still low. Use 4x or 8x.
:Well, that doesn't necessarily mean you should disregard Armisael's input... [[User:Mr. Vinderack|Mr. Vinderack, not as sober as you...thin..yah...]] 18:36, 6 August 2012 (PDT)
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:::The video still has some problems. General: You wait too much between clips. When using half/third width clips don't disabled the HUD. I know that sometimes the elements look out of place but that can be fixed by editing the hud. First clip: The jar being misplaced is not your fault, but I think I can send a fix here. Second clip: The demoman should hit his 2 pipes instead of trying to kill the medic with rollers. 4th clip: I think you recorded the clips with normal width. Use half-width. 5th clip: The spy clips are now similar to the mad milk video. That's good, however, don't separate the spy clips. Record the clip in one shot. 6th clip: wait a bit before extinguishing yourself and the heavy. 7th clip: again, don't hide the hud. Final clip: It still shows the match hud bar. You can fix this by reloading the hud using hud_reloadscheme. · [[User:Ashe|<font color="DB9C1F">Ashe</font>]] ([[User talk:Ashe|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) 22:30, 24 January 2024 (UTC)
::It does indeed have the borders, but they're not really so critically bad that the video should be rejected for it. Still, you should really look into why they are there and try to fix it for future demos — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 16:20, 8 August 2012 (PDT)
 
  
So, are you still gonna upload? [[User:Ben10508|Ben10508]] 21:48, 8 August 2012 (PDT)
 
:This one yes, but please fix them in your future demonstrations — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 05:14, 13 August 2012 (PDT)
 
  
=Cosmetics=
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== {{Demo Header|Chargin' Targe}}, {{Demo Header|Tide Turner}}, and {{Demo Header|Splendid Screen}} ==
=={{icon item|Alien Swarm Parasite|16px}} [[Alien Swarm Parasite]]==
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Should these be redone to show that they remove debuffs such as Jarate, bleeding, afterburn, etc.? If so, which effects should I specifically show?<br>[[User:GrampaSwood|GrampaSwood]] ([[User talk:GrampaSwood|talk]]) 08:31, 25 June 2020 (UTC)
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:{{c|yes}}, the effects that should show are just some of them, not all
:Don't mind me if i take this one. [[File:Charger 2.png|20px|]] [[User:Karmacharger|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Karmacharger</span>]] 4:32  , 7/18/2012 (PDT)
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:* Soaking, Jarate is preferable as it make the screen yellow tint.
::[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xjYJTYXr2hA Render with srcdemo2] 54 .dem file [[File:Charger 2.png|20px|]] [[User:Karmacharger|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Karmacharger</span>]] 1:02  , 7/31/2012 (PDT)
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:* Fire, simple burn from Flamethrower.
:::Man that must have been fun to record :3 But... It's not really worth showing every single thing for every single weapon slot. While it's consistent with the way other all-class demos have been done so far and I appreciate the effort to keep that up, onthis it feels more like padding; it doesn't really add any new facts for the viewer. The same could be argued for other all-class demos, but the time taken in those videos was not really that long so it didn't really matter. Here it does matter, so I think you can trim it.
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:* Bleeding, from Southern Hospitality?
:::tl;dr: Keep all the Scout clips as they are, but remove the secondary slot and melee slot clips of all other classes. Do keep the Sentry and sapper clips, these are important. Thanks~ That's a ton of work and must have taken a ton of time to render — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 17:10, 1 August 2012 (PDT)
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:* Mark for death, from Fan O'War
::::That just took me 2 days for all of the clips , http://youtu.be/_MVX6cp_XRQ [[File:Charger 2.png|20px|]] [[User:Karmacharger|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Karmacharger</span>]] 1:22  ,  8/2/2012 (PDT)
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:I think those are all. [[File:User Hinaomi Hinaomi-sig.png|link=User:Hinaomi]] [[User:Hinaomi|Rikka Takanashi]] <small>([[User talk:Hinaomi|talk]]) • ([[Special:Contributions/Hinaomi|contributions]])</small> 12:47, 25 June 2020 (UTC)
:::::Eh, look at the pyro part again. You can't see the part when you kill the pyro with your flamethrower.
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::Yes, that would all be good. — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 05:44, 8 July 2020 (UTC)
::::::After render that video i was too tired so i didn't watch it , [http://youtu.be/pxSXa0WRznM but now it's fine no more black screens] [[File:Charger 2.png|20px|]] [[User:Karmacharger|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Karmacharger</span>]] 1:45  ,  8/5/2012 (PDT)
 
:::::::In the Pyro and the Spy backpack view, when there is no goggles equipped, you didn't move the mouse to show it. Also, could you reorder the clips for each class a little so that it shows:
 
* Backpack view without goggles
 
* Third person game view without goggles
 
* Backpack view with goggles
 
* Third person game view with goggles
 
* Kill notice comparison(s)
 
In short, reverse the order for the goggles/non-goggles clips. I think it's a little less confusing this way (but maybe I'm wrong?) — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 16:20, 8 August 2012 (PDT)
 
:http://youtu.be/HdPV_ldXTx8 [[File:Charger 2.png|20px|]] [[User:Karmacharger|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Karmacharger</span>]] 9:18  , 8/9/2012 (PDT)
 
::Is good, please upload~ — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 05:14, 13 August 2012 (PDT)
 
[http://www.mediafire.com/?8j6b34twm0dol16 Part 1] & [http://www.mediafire.com/?41vcz3asy3zb3du Part 2] The video size is 233 Mbs that's why i have to split. as for the .dem i uploaded them all because if the videos need to redone because need to show every weapons for every classes so they are needed. [[File:Charger 2.png|20px|]] [[User:Karmacharger|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Karmacharger</span>]] 6:58  ,  8/14/2012 (PDT)
 
  
=={{icon item|Balloonicorn|16px}} [[Balloonicorn]]==
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== {{Demo Header|Quick-Fix}} ==
{{c|Reserved by Boynedmaster}}
 
:I'm doing it. [[User:Boynedmaster|Boynedmaster]] 14:45, 19 July 2012 (PDT)
 
  
=={{icon item|Bird-Man of Aberdeen|16px}} [[Bird-Man of Aberdeen]]==
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Old reservation (29 April 2021)
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For demonstrations for the following items: Alien Swarm Parasite, Triboniophorus Tyrannus, Teddy Roosebelt, Pocket Medic, Cremator's Conscience, Bird-Man of Aberdeen, and Balloonicorn, I recommend this format (NOTE: Pyrovisions goggles are needed for the demonstration):
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{{c|What I've done in addition to the existing one (the timestamp in the parentheses are the old/new ones):}}
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# ([https://youtu.be/mWbjD7LjtVg?t=74 1:14]/[https://youtu.be/hj5FuFVFV2U?t=84 1:24]) On the first scene demonstrating the Quick-Fix's basic functions, I did the same as the old one, plus damaging myself and the patient Heavy while being Ubered, demonstrating that the Quick-Fix's Uber doesn't reduce incoming damage. I also damaged myself (the Medic) twice instead of once.
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# ([https://youtu.be/mWbjD7LjtVg?t=129 2:09]/[https://youtu.be/hj5FuFVFV2U?t=159 2:39]) When demonstrating the Quick-Fix's heal rate in comparison to the stock [[Medi Gun]], while mostly the same, I used a recently-injured Heavy, so that the heal rate (for each medigun) is at the slowest. I used an offscreen pistol Engineer (hence why the starting HP is 14), teleport commands, and <code>r_cleardecals</code>, so it should look neat.
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# ([https://youtu.be/mWbjD7LjtVg?t=137 2:17]/[https://youtu.be/hj5FuFVFV2U?t=181 3:01]) I demonstrated the knockback immunity from Quick-Fix's Uber the same way, but now there's health and Ubercharge HUD.
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# ([https://youtu.be/mWbjD7LjtVg?t=176 2:56]/[https://youtu.be/hj5FuFVFV2U?t=227 3:47]) I did the "mirror blast jumping" part outdoors, although it might not look neat. I'm sorry.
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# ([https://youtu.be/mWbjD7LjtVg?t=206 3:26]/[https://youtu.be/hj5FuFVFV2U?t=257 4:17]) I demonstrated crit healing (after the recipient doesn't take damage for 10-15 seconds) with the Quick-Fix's Uber in addition to the non-Uber Quick-Fix. Yes, the 3x healing rate Uber stacks with the crit heal.
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# ([https://youtu.be/mWbjD7LjtVg?t=233 3:53]/[https://youtu.be/hj5FuFVFV2U?t=416 6:56]) I redid the "Uber build rate comparison on different HP threshold" because the old one didn't have the Quick-Fix as the second healing beam, hence it doesn't explain if the second healing beam alone would slow down the Quick-Fix's Uber build rate (the Quick-Fix has 125% maximum overheal, lower than the usual Uber build rate penalty at 142.5% overheal).
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# ([https://youtu.be/mWbjD7LjtVg?t=266 4:26]/[https://youtu.be/hj5FuFVFV2U?t=306 5:06]) I demonstrated the Quick-Fix maximum overheal limit and decay rate on Scout vs. Heavy as well as comparing it to the stock [[Medi Gun]]'s overheal in addition to the "maintain overheal above 125%" that the old video demonstrated. For the last part, I only used one Heavy, as the aforementioned added demonstrations make up for that, and I maintained the overheal above and below 142.5% overheal (Uber build rate comparison) as well as healing the Heavy when the overheal goes down below 125%.
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# ([https://youtu.be/mWbjD7LjtVg?t=286 4:46]/[https://youtu.be/hj5FuFVFV2U?t=512 8:32]) For the "healing disguised Spy" part, I have two enemy bots (Heavy and Demoman) so that the Spy doesn't disguise as a Demoman named "Medic". Both bots are injured, so my disguise will be healed, too.
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{{c|The new ones (the timestamps refer to the new demonstration):}}
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# ([https://youtu.be/hj5FuFVFV2U?t=459 7:39]) Demonstrating stock [[Medi Gun]]'s Uber vs. Quick-Fix's Uber (the latter doesn't reduce incoming damage, but prevents incoming knockback unlike the former) and the fact that they have same duration (barring the stock's lingering effect). Also has Quick-Fix's Uber without incoming rockets to demonstrate that the duration is the same.
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# ([https://youtu.be/hj5FuFVFV2U?t=478 7:58]) Ubering multiple teammates at the same time drain faster than Ubering a single teammate alone. Also, only the aforementioned Ubering multiple teammates drains Uber faster; Ubering an injured teammate drains at the same rate as Ubering a healthy teammate (fully overhealed) and not healing someone when Ubered.
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<br>
  
* Go into thirdperson, showing the item, then back to firstperson.
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:I did the "Uber draining when dropped" part, but both mediguns show "Dropped by Exaskliri." Is it allowed? I gave the bot the Quick-Fix via bot_mirror command. https://youtu.be/0ZlwvHZrjdU [[User:Exaskliri|Exaskliri]] ([[User talk:Exaskliri|talk]]) 04:27, 30 April 2021 (UTC)
* Kill the Pyro with the Melee Weapon
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::Nothing you can do about that, that's just how it shows. Shouldn't be too noticeable and there's no point in going through the trouble of setting up a server and getting a buddy to join only so it doesn't show. Though the confusion on where the quick-fix actually is should be redone so it doesn't look like you are looking for it.<br>[[User:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">GrampaSwood</font>]] ([[User talk:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) 10:37, 30 April 2021 (UTC)
* Kill the Soldier with the Secondary Weapon
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:# I just did the "mirroring the explosive jump" part, though I don't think it looks neat. Is it OK? https://youtu.be/NQo1iTxQSEA [[User:Exaskliri|Exaskliri]] ([[User talk:Exaskliri|talk]]) 03:31, 3 May 2021 (UTC)
* Kill the Medic with the Primary weapon
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:# Just finished the whole demonstration. I just need to attach the segments. [[User:Exaskliri|Exaskliri]] ([[User talk:Exaskliri|talk]]) 15:15, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
* (ENGINEER Only): Perhaps killing an enemy with sentries of all levels, including the mini-sentry.
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:# Just finished <s>uploading</s> re-uploading the new Quick-Fix demonstration video to YouTube and MediaFire.
* Next clip, go to thridperson, still have the item, but no Pyrovision goggles. Kill an enemy, showing that it only works in Pyrovision.
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::# https://youtu.be/hj5FuFVFV2U
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::# https://www.mediafire.com/file/kx7kbaik5vwpwyj/Quick-Fix_Weapon_Demonstration_Video.mp4/file
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:::[[User:Exaskliri|Exaskliri]] ([[User talk:Exaskliri|talk]]) 08:08, 6 May 2021 (UTC)
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:::: I don't see any problems, except for the the explosive jumps scenes, that looks a bit laggy, and in general the quality, that seems to be more like a rendering issue, though shouldn't be a problem · [[User:Ashe|Ashe]] ([[User talk:Ashe|talk]]) 04:40, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
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: I'm fixing the video right now (quieting projector sound, incorrect fade out time, etc.). Gotta reupload soon. [[User:Exaskliri|Exaskliri]] ([[User talk:Exaskliri|talk]]) 10:39, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
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: Just uploaded the fixed version of the [[Quick-Fix]] demonstration video. [[User:Exaskliri|Exaskliri]] ([[User talk:Exaskliri|talk]]) 13:01, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
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::This is spectacular work, thanks a lot! Just two comments, none of which should require a lot of work to fix hopefully:
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* Video quality also seems to have the same artifacts as the Winger demonstration. Please increase the bitrate. Unlike the Winger demonstration, I understand that a demonstration this long could take forever and use a lot of bandwidth to upload twice (to YouTube and to MediaFire), so if the video quality is approved for the Winger demonstration is good enough and you've used the same settings for re-rendering this demonstration, feel free to just upload the higher-quality Quick Fix demonstration to MediaFire only, in order to avoid having to upload the huge file twice.
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* There is an audio/video glitch at 9:56 - 9:57.
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— [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 05:46, 10 May 2021 (UTC)
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:::You finally responded! Thank you so much. The video/audio glitch is from the .dem recording, so I had to conduct another play, especially since it involves another player. [[User:Exaskliri|Exaskliri]] ([[User talk:Exaskliri|talk]]) 15:12, 10 May 2021 (UTC)
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::::Alright. Can you upload the new version? — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 04:40, 1 June 2021 (UTC)
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Hopefully this format will be helpful to all demonstrators. --[[User:Akuago220|Akuago220, The Jungle Expeditioner]] 21:39, 7 July 2012 (PDT)
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== {{Demo Header|Blutsauger}} ==
:Doesn't Balloonicorn automatically activate Pyroland? I don't think it should follow this exactly. [[User:Mr. Vinderack|Mr. Vinderack, not as sober as you...thin..yah...]] 14:43, 19 July 2012 (PDT)
 
  
=={{icon item|Cremator's Conscience|16px}} [[Cremator's Conscience]]==
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{{reservation|[[User:Mediarch|<font color="ec5c69">'''Mediarch'''</font>]] [[File:User Mediarch PFP.png|25px]][[User:Mediarch|<font color="#ff66cc"> ♥ </font>]][[User talk:Mediarch|<font color="ec5c69">'''Talk'''</font>]][[User:Mediarch|<font color="#ff66cc"> ♥ </font>]][[Special:Contributions/Mediarch|<font color="ec5c69">'''My Edits'''</font>]] 10:42, 12 May 2024 (UTC)}}
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=={{icon item|Infernal Orchestrina|16px}} [[Infernal Orchestrina]]==
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Old discussion (2021)
:Let's do this! [[User:Boynedmaster|Boynedmaster]] 15:20, 19 July 2012 (PDT)
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::EDIT: Turns out when ever I try to record the dem, it NEVER showed the infernal orchestra. I'd like to give this to someone else now. [[User:Boynedmaster|Boynedmaster]] 13:07, 21 July 2012 (PDT)
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: Update on this. Video seems to require multiple people. Wasn't able to find anyone else to help me. If you want to help me record this please ping me. [[User:Naleksuh|Naleksuh]] ([[User talk:Naleksuh|talk]]) 19:53, 21 December 2021 (UTC)
:::EDIT: Actually, I'll take this back, seeing Ballonicorn doesn't work either. Any suggestions? [[User:Boynedmaster|Boynedmaster]] 13:18, 21 July 2012 (PDT)
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::::To get it to show up in demos, you'll need to remove <code>"loadondemand" "1"</code> from the item's entry in items_game.txt — [[User:Armisael |'''Armisael''']] <small>([[User_talk:Armisael |T]] | [[Special:Contributions/Armisael |C]])</small> 13:28, 21 July 2012 (PDT)
 
:::::I'll try it. For now I'll reserve it. [[User:Boynedmaster|Boynedmaster]] 20:59, 21 July 2012 (PDT)
 
::::::Anyone know of any good server hosters so that someone can play tr_target_weaponref_hdr with me?
 
:::::::You should try hosting it on your own computer, or get someone else to host it temporarily. I can put it on the wiki server but it's kind of hard to get a hold of me at the right time these days. [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 14:21, 26 July 2012 (PDT)
 
::::::::Okay. Right now I have the actual demo ready. Just not the "Not visible in Pyroland" yet. Let me go upload it to YouTube [[User:Boynedmaster|Boynedmaster]] 09:36, 27 July 2012 (PDT)
 
:::::::::http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KPjJTj8q5OY&feature=youtu.be
 
:::::::::But first, read this:
 
:::::::::1. I know the quality is horrible, so I need help improving that
 
:::::::::2. I know that in the end there is black. This is because I am using Windows Movie Maker (Windows Vista) Because Windows Live Movie Maker isn't working. [[User:Boynedmaster|Boynedmaster]] 11:41, 27 July 2012 (PDT)
 
::::::::::I think there's your problem. Windows Movie Maker will not cut it for these videos I'm afraid >: — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 17:10, 1 August 2012 (PDT)
 
  
=={{icon item|Pocket Medic|16px}} [[Pocket Medic]]==
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Here's the [https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Yt75ezXKGgKa8q3Ca8p0mjqTtmoGF18i/view?usp=drive_link Blutsauger demonstration] ready for feedback. Shows the updated description and I also included a clip to show that you don't gain health from buildings. [[User:Mediarch|<font color="ec5c69">'''Mediarch'''</font>]] [[File:User Mediarch PFP.png|25px]][[User:Mediarch|<font color="#ff66cc"> ♥ </font>]][[User talk:Mediarch|<font color="ec5c69">'''Talk'''</font>]][[User:Mediarch|<font color="#ff66cc"> ♥ </font>]][[Special:Contributions/Mediarch|<font color="ec5c69">'''My Edits'''</font>]] 19:28, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xB36oViBTO8 got it! [[User:Ben10508|Ben10508]] 21:20, 9 July 2012 (PDT)
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:The demo also needs to show that the effect is pasive, so you have to include a clip where the medic receives damage with the blutsauger and the medigun/bonesaw deployed · [[User:Ashe|<font color="DB9C1F">Ashe</font>]] ([[User talk:Ashe|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) 04:25, 27 May 2024 (UTC)
:Very nice! It's not really my job, but since I'm here, I'll point out a few things:
 
* Quality could probably be upped a bit.
 
* On the second phrase of the video, in which you show the Pocket Medic being used without the Pyrovision Goggles, I would recommend moving the mouse off the Pocket Medic briefly. The description covers up the slot where the Pyrovision Goggles would go, so although it can be inferred, it isn't exactly clear that you're not wearing Pyrovision Goggles from the loadout screen.
 
Much better than my first try. Good job! [[User:Mr. Vinderack|Mr. Vinderack, not as sober as you...thin..yah...]] 21:27, 9 July 2012 (PDT)
 
  
Thanks for the advice! I'll get right to it. [[User:Ben10508|Ben10508]] 21:48, 9 July 2012 (PDT)
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:: [https://drive.google.com/file/d/1C8vYj4CU000bzOls1pgP7n6oBRFhMWeG/view?usp=sharing Here's version two] with a clip showing the effect is passive [[User:Mediarch|<font color="ec5c69">'''Mediarch'''</font>]] [[File:User Mediarch PFP.png|25px]][[User:Mediarch|<font color="#ff66cc"> ♥ </font>]][[User talk:Mediarch|<font color="ec5c69">'''Talk'''</font>]][[User:Mediarch|<font color="#ff66cc"> ♥ </font>]][[Special:Contributions/Mediarch|<font color="ec5c69">'''My Edits'''</font>]] 01:58, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
:Haha, no problem. :> I'd advise you to also wait for Wind to reply before finalizing, though. <small>''The preceding unsigned comment was added by'' '''[[User:Mr. Vinderack|Mr. Vinderack]]''' ([[User talk:Mr. Vinderack|talk]]) • ([[Special:Contributions/Mr. Vinderack|contribs]]) </small>
 
:The demonstration is kind of backwards, showing with goggles first and then without. It should show the common/default state first, and then show what happens with the goggles on. This does mean a longer demonstration since now both the nogoggles the goggles parts need to each have the usual 3 kills, but that's okay. Also do consider using Source Recorder to get a higher quality video and a more consistent framerate. More importantly, don't forget to reload according to the guidelines (ctrl+f reloading on [[Team Fortress Wiki:Weapon Demonstration|project page]]). Fades to backpack view are a bit long, and the time you stay in the backpack view is a bit short. Is all, thanks~ — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 18:34, 10 July 2012 (PDT)
 
  
Hmm, well that's quite a lot of stuff to fix but I'll do it. I'm using Fraps to record my screen, usually it's smooth but I think it was just that time it lagged a bit and as you can see Wind, no more black bars :D [[User:Ben10508|Ben10508]] 09:42, 11 July 2012 (PDT)
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== {{Demo Header|Eyelander}}, {{Demo Header|Nessie's Nine Iron}}, {{Demo Header|Horseless Headless Horsemann's Headtaker}}, and {{Demo Header|Half-Zatoichi}} ==
:That's normal to have to redo a lot of stuff. I had to make four demonstrations before I got accepted. Regarding Fraps, I actually doubt it was lag. I used Fraps for my very first demonstration, and it produced a similar video. Then, I switched to Source Recorder and eventually used SrcDemo2. That's how I got my quality to be pretty great, so I really do recommend using Source Recorder and SrcDemo2. If you need any help, I'll definitely be willing if you're going to do it. A quality demonstration is a good demonstration. [[User:Mr. Vinderack|Mr. Vinderack, not as sober as you...thin..yah...]] 10:19, 11 July 2012 (PDT)
 
  
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=es3aWo6Q9dE fixed [[User:Ben10508|Ben10508]] 20:29, 11 July 2012 (PDT)
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{{c|Show slower deploy and holster comparision.}}
:Much better than the first one. However:
 
* Though not a huge problem, the looping of the music is quite botched. I recommend using Karmacharger's version of the long demonstration video music (see near-bottom).
 
That's actually the only thing I see wrong. The quality could be a bit better, but I would say it's acceptable. [[User:Mr. Vinderack|Mr. Vinderack, not as sober as you...thin..yah...]] 08:20, 12 July 2012 (PDT)
 
  
Alrighty then [[User:Ben10508|Ben10508]] 08:54, 12 July 2012 (PDT)
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The other swords shows the comparision except for the above ones. [[User:ThunderRunner|ThunderRunner]] ([[User talk:ThunderRunner|talk]]) 08:54, 18 December 2021 (UTC)
  
Also, when I put the Pyrovision goggles on, it doesn't look like in what the demonstration for the Rainblower looks like. Someone help? [[User:Ben10508|Ben10508]] 12:41, 13 July 2012 (PDT)
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:Okay, clearly I didn't think this through when I said to show the default state first, because the viewer won't really know what to look for in that clip until afterwards in the second part. So, sorry about that but err... My bad. However, now that I think about it more, maybe it would best be demonstrated as a split-screen, with the default on the left and the pyrovision on the right. That way the killfeed difference is easier to notice, rather than having those elements spaced by a large time gap of a few dozen seconds where it's easy to forget what's different. So I'd say try doing that; put an enemy in front of you and kill him in both modes (with same starting positions, <code>getpos</code>/<code>setpos</code>/<code>bot_teleport</code> with the prmary weapon, and do that again (in other clips) for secondary and melee. Then do the same for the Heavy. I think that should make it much clearer~ (Make sure to use the split-screen HUD with the kill feed showing properly on a left/right split-screen).
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I think I am capable of doing demonstrations again.  As someone on the wiki that doesn't get credited for shit, I think these might upper my reputation.<br>----[[File:User Slimyboi500 Logo.png|100px|link=User:Slimyboi500]] [[File:User Slimyboi500 Profile.jpg|25px|link=User:Slimyboi500]] [[User talk:Slimyboi500|Talk]] [[File:Speech voice.png|25px|link=User talk:Slimyboi500]] [[Special:Contributions/Slimyboi500|Contribs]] [[File:Wrench_IMG.png|25px|link=Special:Contributions/Slimyboi500]] [https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561199515551163/ Steam]  [[File:Steam tray.png|25px|link=https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561199515551163/]] 04:32, 19 April 2024 (UTC)
:Also yes, it should show pyrovision elements other than the balloons and the modified voice line choices. — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 22:24, 13 July 2012 (PDT)
 
  
I figured out to get the split screen to work but does both the screens have to have the same actions at the SAME EXACT time? I think that'll be a little hard to do that. Plus, how come when I put the Pyrovision Goggles on, it's not like what's it's supposed to be like? <small>— ''The preceding unsigned comment was added by'' '''[[User:Ben10508|Ben10508]]''' ([[User talk:Ben10508|talk]]) ([[Special:Contributions/Ben10508|contribs]]) </small>
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:What edits/contributions have you made that you did not get credited for?<br>[[File:BLU Wiki Cap.png|20px|link=List of Wiki Cap owners]] {{!}} [[Help:Group rights|<span style="color:green;font-family:TF2 Build;">s</span>]] {{!}} [[User:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">GrampaSwood</font>]] [[File:PraisetheSun.png|20px|alt=Praise the Sun!]] ([[User talk:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) ([[Special:Contributions/GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">contribs</font>]]) 05:13, 19 April 2024 (UTC)
:It's not as hard as you think. Just make the clips' content start at the same time and trim them to be the same length. The entire process only takes about 45 seconds for each clip, so it will take approximately two and a half minutes to synchronize all the clips. If you really need help or still do not understand, though, I will make a tutorial video on the concept (and maybe even the entire weapon demonstration process). Ask me if you need any more help or if you need the video. [[User:Mr. Vinderack|Mr. Vinderack, not as sober as you...thin..yah...]] 01:48, 14 July 2012 (PDT)
 
  
Well, I can make the lengths of both the videos the same, but say that I have two videos and they demonstration a weapon. I fire the weapon err gun whatever, I fire the gun at different times. Do you get what I'm trying to say? [[User:Ben10508|Ben10508]] 01:59, 14 July 2012 (PDT)
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::Oh, I dunno, [https://wiki.teamfortress.com/w/index.php?title=Soldier_Robot&diff=3568960&oldid=3552448 this], [https://wiki.teamfortress.com/w/index.php?title=Template:Item_set_infobox&diff=3618268&oldid=3565663 this], and [https://wiki.teamfortress.com/w/index.php?title=Ghost&diff=3649086&oldid=3401209 especially] [https://wiki.teamfortress.com/w/index.php?title=Saw_blade&diff=3649104&oldid=3314666 these].
:Yes, and I did when I responded. Apparently you didn't understand me though. I will make the video; expect it either later today or tomorrow. [[User:Mr. Vinderack|Mr. Vinderack, not as sober as you...thin..yah...]] 11:04, 14 July 2012 (PDT)
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::Does that ring any bells? — [[User:Armisael |'''Armisael''']] <small>([[User_talk:Armisael |T]] | [[Special:Contributions/Armisael |C]])</small> 11:13, 14 July 2012 (PDT)
 
:::Read above. I'm making a tutorial, not the demo lol. [[User:Mr. Vinderack|Mr. Vinderack, not as sober as you...thin..yah...]] 11:36, 14 July 2012 (PDT)
 
  
Mr. Vinderack, you scared me, Armisael, you saved me, Mr. Vinderack, you saved me even more, lol [[User:Ben10508|Ben10508]] 18:31, 14 July 2012 (PDT)
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If I do split screen for this, how will I show the backpack view? [[User:Ben10508|Ben10508]] 08:53, 15 July 2012 (PDT)
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::::Wikicheivments?  I never got another one since [[User talk:Slimyboi500/Arch1#Wikichievement unlocked|November]].  [[User:Mediarch|Mediarch]] is [[User talk:Mediarch#Wikichievement unlocked.21|getting]] [[User talk:Mediarch#Wikichievement Unlocked.21 2|all]] [[User talk:Mediarch#Wikichievement Unlocked.21 3|the]] [[User talk:Mediarch#Wikichievement unlocked.21 4|fame]] [[User talk:Mediarch#C .3E 7|and glory]].  I just don't wanna think I'm the odd one out.
:Do a full-screen backpack view with the item equipped, and then put labels on each side of the screen as done on the [[Mantreads]] demo (make sure to use the same font, same color, same size, but possible different location since the pyrovision frame thingy around the edge of the screen may make the label unreadable) — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 10:27, 15 July 2012 (PDT)
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So how about this, I show a backpack view without the goggles, the go into third person with no bots. Then I do the same but with the goggles, then do a split screen thing? Oh and, whenever I put on the goggles, I never see the Pyrovision frame and everything else, just the balloons and the altered voice clips. Also, how do I get the Team Fortress 2 styled font? [[User:Ben10508|Ben10508]] 13:32, 15 July 2012 (PDT)
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::::: Slimy, you don't need Wikichievements on a wiki. The point of it is to inform, not be popular. Also, Mediarch has been constantly doing this sort of thing, pretty consistently too. Just look at the recent changes. Besides, your contributions don't warrant most of the stuff Medi has, n' you've already got a decent amount of Wikichieves. [[User:Payn|payn.]] [[File:Beggar's Bazooka.png|30px|link=User:Payn]] [[User talk:Payn|Talk]] [[File:Speech voice.png|25px|link=User talk:Payn]]  [[Special:Contributions/Payn|Contribs]] [[File:Market Gardener.png|30px|link=Special:Contributions/Payn]] 00:02, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
:Yes, that beginning sequence would work. The fonts are already in the game files, in <code>tf/resource</code> as described on the [[Fonts]] article, which also has download links to those fonts. — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 13:52, 15 July 2012 (PDT)
 
  
Alright cool but what about the pyrovision thing? [[User:Ben10508|Ben10508]] 15:13, 15 July 2012 (PDT)
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== {{Demo Header|Kritzkrieg}} ==
:I don't know. I would help but my TF2 client just freezes when I try to load any map so it's kind of hard to see for myself. — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 00:46, 17 July 2012 (PDT)
 
  
Almost done! [[User:Ben10508|Ben10508]] 07:34, 24 July 2012 (PDT)
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{{c|Does not show that Kritz Über does not prevent capping or carrying the Intelligence.}}
  
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJNHuJOT4qs [[User:Ben10508|Ben10508]] 20:41, 24 July 2012 (PDT)
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{{c|Does not show health of patients, overheal is not shown properly.}}
:Good try with the splitscreen Ben, but I think we still have a few things to clear up (HUD, using track motion effectively, resolution, etc.). I'll talk to you on Steam whenever. [[User:Mr. Vinderack|Mr. Vinderack, not as sober as you...thin..yah...]] 22:34, 24 July 2012 (PDT)
 
:Bad music mixing at 0:28 - 0:31 and 0:53 - 0:58 etc. The kill notices (which are the most important thing to show in this particular demonstration) are not fully visible >: Split-screen is also not exactly 50%-50%, and look a bit stretched horizontally (?). Font is a bit big (again use [[Mantreads]] as reference). There also needs longer clip intro/outro times. Also, as it is clearly hard to synchronize all 3 kills in a single take across both split-screen clips (although this is a very nice attempt), you may want to do 3 separate clips for each weapon, or just one clip with only one kill. Is probably enough to show what needs to be shown, and simpler to do — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 14:21, 26 July 2012 (PDT)
 
  
Hmm, it seems a little complicated to do 3 separate clips for each weapon. Can I just stick with one clip with just one kill (similar to the [[Triboniophorus Tyrannus]] video)? I can still use split screen though [[User:Ben10508|Ben10508]] 17:40, 26 July 2012 (PDT)
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I think I'll take this one! [[User:Greenfox|Greenfox]] ([[User talk:Greenfox|talk]]) 20:51, 22 October 2022 (UTC)
  
Oh yeah, I forgot to ask, what size should the font be for the text? [[User:Ben10508|Ben10508]] 18:28, 26 July 2012 (PDT)
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:Please sign your comments using <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>.<br>[[User:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">GrampaSwood</font>]] ([[User talk:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) 20:56, 22 October 2022 (UTC)
:To Ben10508 , i think this is the best way on split screen [http://tf2.gamebanana.com/tuts/10894 Heres a tutorial show you how to see pyroland texture in any map you want if you equiped Pyrovision Goggles.] [[File:Charger 2.png|20px|]] [[User:Karmacharger|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Karmacharger</span>]] 10:46  , 7/27/2012 (PDT)
 
  
Or I can follow the format in the [[Alien Swarm Parasite]] video. [[User:Ben10508|Ben10508]] 05:53, 31 July 2012 (PDT)
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sorry! [[User:Greenfox|Greenfox]] ([[User talk:Greenfox|talk]]) 06:27, 23 October 2022 (UTC)
  
=={{icon item|Teddy Roosebelt|16px}} [[Teddy Roosebelt]]==
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== Trading demonstration ==
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{{c|Doesn't show the "Requires Steam Guard verification" window}}
  
I'll try to do this one, because now I have a working version of Fraps. The only problem is that when I run it the game runs very slow and when I save it, the audio's completely off. Does anyone know how to fix this? [[User:Bruss48|Bruss48]] 22:06, 17 July 2012 (PDT)
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We can make the same Medic and Heavy conversation joke.
:''"…the audio's completely off…"'' - As in the audio is nonexistant, or not synchronized? [[User:Xyphink|Xyphink]] 10:47, 19 July 2012 (PDT)
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:Alright, it seems that Steam won't allow me to change the Trading window language for some reason, so i'm leaving this to a English-speaker user · [[User:Ashe|Ashe]] ([[User talk:Ashe|talk]]) 04:55, 27 February 2022 (UTC)
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:I don't think we should redo this just for this reason; there may be more UI changes to that process in the future, and it seems unnecessary. — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 00:33, 24 April 2022 (UTC)
  
I mean it's out of sync by a lot. I'm going to try to fondle with this a bit and see if I can work it. If it doesn't work out, I'll try to let you do it. [[User:Bruss48|Bruss48]] 23:17, 19 July 2012 (PDT)
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== {{Demo Header|Ullapool Caber}} ==
:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FI5JkL-6aoo&feature=youtube_gdata First version of it. Gonna need to do a lot of changes, I'm sure. [[User:Bruss48|Bruss48]] 12:05, 22 July 2012 (PDT)
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::The video is private, I cannot see it — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 14:21, 26 July 2012 (PDT)
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*{{c|Does not demonstrate activation on cloaked enemy Spies}}
:::Terribly sorry about that. The video is now just unlisted. [[User:Bruss48|Bruss48]] 19:57, 27 July 2012 (PDT)
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*{{c|Does not demonstrate activation on disguised enemy Spies}}
  
Is it not true that items are supposed to not have "Crafted by" on them? [[User:Xyphink|Xyphink]] 11:58, 1 August 2012 (PDT)
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This video does not need a desperate rework, but it is worth adding some extra stuff here and there. Specifically the cloak and disguise interactions.
:Indeed, it's preferable not to have craft marks on items. You may be able to erase it from the video using your video editor. But other than that, and more importantly:
 
* Video is not 720p
 
* Framerate is too low
 
* These sorts of demonstrations to show the kill feed are best done as split-screen. See the other sections about this — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 17:10, 1 August 2012 (PDT)
 
  
=={{icon item|Triboniophorus Tyrannus|16px}} [[Triboniophorus Tyrannus]]==
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'''Part 1: The Main Gang (Pyro, Soldier, Medic)'''
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#Attack the Pyro with a full caber. Watch the explosion and Demoman saying "Kablooey!" or similar.
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#After landing, kill the Pyro with the now empty caber.
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#Kill the Soldier with consecutive hits of the empty caber.
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#Kill the Medic with consecutive hits of the empty caber.
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#Taunt
  
This is my first demonstration :D 23:40, 17 July 2012 (PDT) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uetOmsWszTc&feature=youtu.be [[User:BulletproofKevin|BulletproofKevin]]
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'''Part 2: Blast Radius Tests + Caber Jumping'''
:It's not bad at all, but sadly we are discussing another format for these demonstrations in the "Pocket Medic" section of this page. You should probably wait until one such video is finished, and then use that as a template. Other than that the video is alright, except that the Spy is visible (he shouldn't unless it's tauntkill time), the volume is very very low (open this demonstration and an existing demonstration side by side with the same volume and compare), and the audio is low-fidelity (it sounds like a 64kbps MP3 or something. Use uncompressed PCM audio, it's not that large) [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 12:12, 19 July 2012 (PDT)
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::Okay, I'll wait until the Pocket Medic video is out. [[User:BulletproofKevin|BulletproofKevin]] 15:03, 19 July 2012 (PDT)
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Do the same as current video's Part 2 except friendly Scout is removed. And some more added too.
:i just got the hat as random drop , so http://youtu.be/nt033vx2Q4Q [[File:Charger 2.png|20px|]] [[User:Karmacharger|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Karmacharger</span>]] 8:43  , 8/14/2012 (PDT)
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# Approach between an enemy Engineer and an enemy Sniper. '''[Note: Friendly Scout is moved to the next Act]'''
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# Look at both of them while standing still.
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# Look down at the ground and then swing the caber.
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# Crouch, look down, and then swing the caber. Watch the explosion affect the enemy players.
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# Look at the enemy players again.
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# Run to the Resupply room, look at the sign, and enter the room.
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# Touch the Resupply cabinet.
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# Repeat Step 4.
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# Run to the Resupply room and immediately go to the Resupply cabinet and out.
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# Approach a high location (in the current video, it is a bunch of crates)
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# Jump and strike the wall of the high location to get to the top of it.
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'''Part 3: Player Interactions'''
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First part is a single enemy Spy.
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'''Part 3a: Cloaked Spy'''
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# Let the Spy cloak
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# Approach cloaked Spy and attack with the full caber. If the facts are right, an explosion should trigger.
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# Refresh the screen to the next scene...
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There are two players on the side, a friendly Scout and an enemy Spy.
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'''Part 3b: Disguised Spy'''
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# Let the Spy disguise as a friendly Scout.
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# Approach friendly Scout and attack with the full caber. Nothing should happen.
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# Now go to the disguised Spy and repeat Step 3. The difference is that the explosion should trigger.
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'''Part 4: Deployment and Holstering'''
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*Do the same set of actions as the current video, or in any appropriate method.
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<s>[[User:Qwertyxp2000|Qwertyxp2000]] ([[User talk:Qwertyxp2000|talk]]) 02:23, 22 June 2022 (UTC)</s> [[User:Qwertyxp2000|Qwertyxp2000]] ([[User talk:Qwertyxp2000|talk]]) 02:31, 22 June 2022 (UTC)
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:Good list, but agree that this isn't worth redoing if it's only for those extra interactions. — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 21:39, 31 July 2022 (UTC)
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:: [https://drive.google.com/file/d/1UYRHocDtVBJbtYHnGVX6UjG_olg-VjqU/view?usp=sharing Here] is the video, feedback needed!<br>[[User:Cheddar|<font color="#193940">'''Cheddar'''</font>]] • [[User talk:Cheddar|<font color="#193940">'''Talk'''</font>]] 11:03, 4 May 2024 (UTC)
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== [[File:RED Teleporter.png|16px|link=Teleporters]] [[Teleporters]] ==
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{{c|Needs to show the updated metal cost.}}
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== {{Demo Header|Cleaner's Carbine}} ==
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{{Reservation|[[User:Cheddar|<font color="#193940">'''Cheddar'''</font>]] • [[User talk:Cheddar|<font color="#193940">'''Talk'''</font>]] 13:59, 3 May 2024 (UTC)}}<br>
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:{{c|Needs a firing speed comparison to stock, does not show CRIKEY! gain from damaging buildings and disguised Spies.}}
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:: I may need a bit of time to obtain a Cleaner's Carbine for this video. This will be solved once Scrap.TF is working again. [[User:Scorchshotgaming|Scorchshotgaming]] ([[User talk:Scorchshotgaming|talk]]) 06:45, 19 April 2024 (UTC)
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:::[https://drive.google.com/file/d/1snBQbOnOMnNxuKgUzsNOQhNieC8H1t0H/view?usp=sharing Here's] the video, feedback needed! <br>[[User:Cheddar|<font color="#193940">'''Cheddar'''</font>]] • [[User talk:Cheddar|<font color="#193940">'''Talk'''</font>]] 17:51, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
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:::: What about the disguised spies? or did I miss it somewhere in the video? [[User:Mediarch|<font color="ec5c69">'''Mediarch'''</font>]] [[File:User Mediarch PFP.png|25px]][[User:Mediarch|<font color="#ff66cc"> ♥ </font>]][[User talk:Mediarch|<font color="ec5c69">'''Talk'''</font>]][[User:Mediarch|<font color="#ff66cc"> ♥ </font>]][[Special:Contributions/Mediarch|<font color="ec5c69">'''My Edits'''</font>]] 18:11, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
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::::: I forgot <br> [[User:Cheddar|<font color="#193940">'''Cheddar'''</font>]] • [[User talk:Cheddar|<font color="#193940">'''Talk'''</font>]] 18:12, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
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:::::: [https://drive.google.com/file/d/1e88Z5orKHDRcgNKPimVsP5nL5CXdxTlO/view?usp=sharing Here] is a newer version! <br>[[User:Cheddar|<font color="#193940">'''Cheddar'''</font>]] • [[User talk:Cheddar|<font color="#193940">'''Talk'''</font>]] 19:11, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
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:::::::It doesn't show invisible spies also filling crikey · [[User:Ashe|<font color="DB9C1F">Ashe</font>]] ([[User talk:Ashe|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) 16:31, 27 May 2024 (UTC)
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::::::::[https://drive.google.com/file/d/145awNn8X75IyIpVi0LZC43JB1b6myLLb/view?usp=sharing Here] is a newer version!<br>[[User:Cheddar|<font color="#193940">'''Cheddar'''</font>]] • [[User talk:Cheddar|<font color="#193940">'''Talk'''</font>]] 21:50, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
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== {{Demo Header|Maul}}, {{Demo Header|Homewrecker}} ==
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{{c|Does not show damage against players vs stock}}
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{{reservation|[[User:Mediarch|'''Mediarch''']] [[File:User Mediarch PFP.png|25px]][[User:Mediarch|<font color="#ff66cc"> ♥ </font>]][[User talk:Mediarch|'''Talk''']][[User:Mediarch|<font color="#ff66cc"> ♥ </font>]][[Special:Contributions/Mediarch|'''My Edits''']] 17:41, 26 March 2024 (UTC)}}
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[https://drive.google.com/file/d/1RuotuJq4wrNwBO07H-bjgSrtHo1tyhkJ/view?usp=sharing Here's the Maul] [[User:Mediarch|'''Mediarch''']] [[File:User Mediarch PFP.png|25px]][[User:Mediarch|<font color="#ff66cc"> ♥ </font>]][[User talk:Mediarch|'''Talk''']][[User:Mediarch|<font color="#ff66cc"> ♥ </font>]][[Special:Contributions/Mediarch|'''My Edits''']] 00:19, 27 March 2024 (UTC)
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: [https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ihbl2VE57Y-w-wt6Cu28KSL7cOYtDbGJ/view?usp=sharing Here's Maul v2] [[User:Mediarch|'''Mediarch''']] [[File:User Mediarch PFP.png|25px]][[User:Mediarch|<font color="#ff66cc"> ♥ </font>]][[User talk:Mediarch|'''Talk''']][[User:Mediarch|<font color="#ff66cc"> ♥ </font>]][[Special:Contributions/Mediarch|'''My Edits''']] 20:20, 8 April 2024 (UTC)
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[https://drive.google.com/file/d/1YkPdQZhRUCRbBqNM13vzVrjDWE2oLJKL/view?usp=sharing Here's the Homewrecker] [[User:Mediarch|'''Mediarch''']] [[File:User Mediarch PFP.png|25px]][[User:Mediarch|<font color="#ff66cc"> ♥ </font>]][[User talk:Mediarch|'''Talk''']][[User:Mediarch|<font color="#ff66cc"> ♥ </font>]][[Special:Contributions/Mediarch|'''My Edits''']] 00:19, 27 March 2024 (UTC)
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:It seems like the combattext batching was still on, as the damage numbers get added up. You don't have to be named "Friendly Engineer" for the Dispenser clip, it can just be your own name.
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:In the Homewrecker one specifically: Try not to rotate around a target too much when hitting them (this is mostly when hitting the Pyro at the start, where all 3 subsequent hits are from a different angle). Both look good otherwise.<br>[[File:BLU Wiki Cap.png|20px|link=List of Wiki Cap owners]] {{!}} [[Help:Group rights|<span style="color:green;font-family:TF2 Build;">s</span>]] {{!}} [[User:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">GrampaSwood</font>]] [[File:PraisetheSun.png|20px|alt=Praise the Sun!]] ([[User talk:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) ([[Special:Contributions/GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">contribs</font>]]) 20:40, 7 April 2024 (UTC)
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:: [https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Ae8jB8jsbp3Q2oy-BCWPdFtm5R6niPvh/view?usp=sharing Here's Homewrecka v2] [[User:Mediarch|'''Mediarch''']] [[File:User Mediarch PFP.png|25px]][[User:Mediarch|<font color="#ff66cc"> ♥ </font>]][[User talk:Mediarch|'''Talk''']][[User:Mediarch|<font color="#ff66cc"> ♥ </font>]][[Special:Contributions/Mediarch|'''My Edits''']] 20:20, 8 April 2024 (UTC)
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:::Both look good. Thanks · [[User:Ashe|<font color="DB9C1F">Ashe</font>]] ([[User talk:Ashe|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) 16:36, 27 May 2024 (UTC)
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== {{Demo Header|Amputator}} ==
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{{c|Does not show damage against players vs stock}}
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{{Reservation|[[User:Mediarch|<font color="ec5c69">'''Mediarch'''</font>]] [[File:User Mediarch PFP.png|25px]][[User:Mediarch|<font color="#ff66cc"> ♥ </font>]][[User talk:Mediarch|<font color="ec5c69">'''Talk'''</font>]][[User:Mediarch|<font color="#ff66cc"> ♥ </font>]][[Special:Contributions/Mediarch|<font color="ec5c69">'''My Edits'''</font>]] 04:11, 31 May 2024 (UTC)}}
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I recorded most of this but medic's health regen is completely random as far I can tell. I can't get the clips to line up so I can properly demonstrate the increased health regen so I'm removing my reservation for the time being. I might try again some other time to brute force it but it doesn't seem promising [[User:Mediarch|'''Mediarch''']] [[File:User Mediarch PFP.png|25px]][[User:Mediarch|<font color="#ff66cc"> ♥ </font>]][[User talk:Mediarch|'''Talk''']][[User:Mediarch|<font color="#ff66cc"> ♥ </font>]][[Special:Contributions/Mediarch|'''My Edits''']] 18:34, 28 March 2024 (UTC)
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:Not having them be synced up is fine as long as it's clear that the Amputator goes faster.<br>[[File:BLU Wiki Cap.png|20px|link=List of Wiki Cap owners]] {{!}} [[Help:Group rights|<span style="color:green;font-family:TF2 Build;">s</span>]] {{!}} [[User:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">GrampaSwood</font>]] [[File:PraisetheSun.png|20px|alt=Praise the Sun!]] ([[User talk:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) ([[Special:Contributions/GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">contribs</font>]]) 18:55, 28 March 2024 (UTC)
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:: That's not the issue I'm having. It's the part where you're showing that it only regenerates faster while you are actively holding the amputator itself. The original video has a 3-way splitscreen with the left side being Amputator, the middle having the Amputator equipped but switched to hold the medi gun, and the right holding the stock bonesaw. I can't the medi gun side and bonesaw side to sync up so it looks like one of them is slightly faster than the other. One of the two is always slightly faster or slower which makes it really difficult to properly demonstrate that part. Even the actual health you gain each tick is slightly variable from what I can tell. I had 6 different clips and synched them all up and they all finished at different times and would have different health values despite all other variables being equal. All 6 clips started at the same time but all 6 of them have different HP https://imgur.com/3NVTjSG. My only thought for a fix is I could try to cheat and essentially just crop the health bar from one of the clips and paste it onto the other so that way they are perfectly synced up. It'd have to be a seamless edit though which is pretty hard to do. [[User:Mediarch|'''Mediarch''']] [[File:User Mediarch PFP.png|25px]][[User:Mediarch|<font color="#ff66cc"> ♥ </font>]][[User talk:Mediarch|'''Talk''']][[User:Mediarch|<font color="#ff66cc"> ♥ </font>]][[Special:Contributions/Mediarch|'''My Edits''']] 19:15, 28 March 2024 (UTC)
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== {{Demo Header|Direct Hit}} ==
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{{c|Does not show splash damage size compared to stock. No damage comparison to stock. You can airshot a soldier that rocket jumps.}}
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== {{Demo Header|Pomson 6000}} ==
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{{c|October 21, 2016 Patch - Fixed the Pomson 6000 playing the Shotgun reload sound.}}
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== {{Demo Header|Thermal Thruster}} ==
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{{c|Video doesn't show the increased knockback while using the item}}
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This video was created when the rule was just "at least 30 fps". Now, the knockback clips are a bit random and doesn't properly show the actual effect. Maybe the demonstrator can show it by placing a pyro aiming upwards and make it airblast them. The clips would be in badwater roof, the left clip without the thermal just falling off from it and the right clip, jumping with the thermal onto the pyro. · [[User:Ashe|<font color="DB9C1F">Ashe</font>]] ([[User talk:Ashe|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) 17:18, 28 March 2024 (UTC)
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= [[Main Page (Classic)|Team Fortress Classic]] =
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== [[File:TFC Crowbar.PNG|16px]] [[Crowbar (Classic)]] ==
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{{c|Haven't been able to find a proper bot program. Will need another players in order to successfully demonstrate}}
  
 
=Questions and Proposals=
 
=Questions and Proposals=
== tr_target_weaponref_hdr_v2 ==
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'''Note: This section is for questions and proposals that aren't specific to a single weapon. If you think a demo ought to be remade, then make an entry for it in the [[Team_Fortress_Wiki_talk:Weapon_Demonstration#Need_to_be_redone|Need to be Redone]] section above and it will be dealt with.'''
Guys a little edit of tr_target_weaponref_hdr map.
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:[[Image:Tr target weaponref hdr v2.png‎‎|500px]]
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== [[File:Item icon Voodoo-Cursed Heavy Soul.png|20px|link=Zombie Infection]] [[Zombie Infection]] Zombies ==
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{{c|Zombies have different abillities than normal players}}.
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Hello, I am Slimyboi500.  I will be doing the demostrations for each zombie in Zombie Infection.
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Why, you may ask?  Unlike normal gamemodes, the [[BLU]] team (or in this case, the zombies), have different [[Zombie_Infection#Zombie_abilities|abillities]] than normal:
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*[[Scout]]: Speed Demon
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*[[Soldier]]: Pounce
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*[[Pyro]]: Hellspawn
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*[[Demoman]]: Blast Charge
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*[[Heavy]]: The Tank
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*[[Engineer]]: EMP Grenade
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*[[Medic]]: Heal
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*[[Sniper]]: Spit
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*[[Spy]]: Reveal
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They also have different effects, like different amounts of [[health]] and [[speed]].  The zombies only can use melee attacks however, which makes it harder to kill.
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Let me know if it's a good idea or not.
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----[[User:Slimyboi500|Slimyboi500]] ([[User talk:Slimyboi500|talk]]) [[File:User Slimyboi500 Profile.jpg|25px]] 17:35, 27 October 2023 (UTC)
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:If we're doing this, I think there should be a demonstration made for each gamemode, rather than just Zombie Infection. Although ZI has gotten an introduction video now that shows off the mode pretty well, so I don't believe it is necessary.<br>[[File:BLU Wiki Cap.png|20px|link=List of Wiki Cap owners]] | [[Help:Group rights|<span style="color:green;font-family:TF2 Build;">s</span>]] | [[User:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">GrampaSwood</font>]] [[File:PraisetheSun.png|20px|alt=Praise the Sun!]] ([[User talk:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) ([[Special:Contributions/GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">contribs</font>]]) 17:53, 27 October 2023 (UTC)
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::The introduction is missing a few key details, such as not showing the Soldier or Heavy's abilities.  I feel like it would be a good idea.  Such as like there should be a demo for VSH.
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::----[[User:Slimyboi500|Slimyboi500]] ([[User talk:Slimyboi500|talk]]) [[File:User Slimyboi500 Profile.jpg|25px]] 18:12, 27 October 2023 (UTC)
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:::It doesn't show each ability, but it does overall show the gamemode very well and I think does a sufficient job. Although, again, if we are making demonstrations for this, I think one should be made for each gamemode.<br>[[File:BLU Wiki Cap.png|20px|link=List of Wiki Cap owners]] | [[Help:Group rights|<span style="color:green;font-family:TF2 Build;">s</span>]] | [[User:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">GrampaSwood</font>]] [[File:PraisetheSun.png|20px|alt=Praise the Sun!]] ([[User talk:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) ([[Special:Contributions/GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">contribs</font>]]) 18:18, 27 October 2023 (UTC)
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::::Yes, I think there should be one for each gamemode.
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::::----[[User:Slimyboi500|Slimyboi500]] ([[User talk:Slimyboi500|talk]]) [[File:User Slimyboi500 Profile.jpg|25px]] 19:41, 27 October 2023 (UTC)
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:::::Remember to also indent your signature and to keep your answers above the hidden comment.<br>[[File:BLU Wiki Cap.png|20px|link=List of Wiki Cap owners]] | [[Help:Group rights|<span style="color:green;font-family:TF2 Build;">s</span>]] | [[User:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">GrampaSwood</font>]] [[File:PraisetheSun.png|20px|alt=Praise the Sun!]] ([[User talk:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) ([[Special:Contributions/GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">contribs</font>]]) 19:51, 27 October 2023 (UTC)
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::::::Still, is that a yes on the idea?
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::::::----[[User:Slimyboi500|Slimyboi500]] ([[User talk:Slimyboi500|talk]]) [[File:User Slimyboi500 Profile.jpg|25px]] 20:28, 27 October 2023 (UTC)
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{{Outdent|6}} I'm voting no, but other people might be in favour of it. [[User:Profiteer|Profiteer]] was, for example, so I'm waiting for more input.<br>[[File:BLU Wiki Cap.png|20px|link=List of Wiki Cap owners]] | [[Help:Group rights|<span style="color:green;font-family:TF2 Build;">s</span>]] | [[User:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">GrampaSwood</font>]] [[File:PraisetheSun.png|20px|alt=Praise the Sun!]] ([[User talk:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) ([[Special:Contributions/GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">contribs</font>]]) 20:35, 27 October 2023 (UTC)
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:I vote yes for the Zombie Infection zombies (as well Saxton Hale on VSH), but not for other gamemodes. I consider these zombies kinda like "new weapons". They all have different abilities, passives, first-person views, etc. I'm not quite sure if there needs to be a demonstration regarding the human part (only if demonstrated humans being infected by zombies upon dying), and perhaps the only thing related to humans would be that zombies drop small healthkits (because it's related to them, the zombies). A showcase of each zombie class, its ability, and some human interactions like being infected by them, and, killing them as humans, would probably be a nifty video package. [[File:User Gabrielwoj Signature Icon.png|15px|Headphones style when?|link=User:Gabrielwoj]] - [[File:User Gabrielwoj Signature 1.png|link=User:Gabrielwoj]] ▪ [[File:User Gabrielwoj Signature 2.png|link=Special:Contribs/Gabrielwoj]] - [[File:User Gabrielwoj Signature 3.png|link=User talk:Gabrielwoj]] 22:34, 27 October 2023 (UTC)
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:: I'm all in for ZI and VSH demos, but a significant issue would be future balance patches to the modes. Each balance patch so far has significantly changed the zombies, and if we had already made the demo, we would have to redo the video for each one of these updates, which would result in multiple uploads of the same video over and over again and a lot of work (and given how we can barely keep up with the current demos in the [[#Need_to_be_redone|backlog]]...). Maybe instead of a gamemode demonstration, we could simply do a "zombie class demonstration" ("Zombie Sniper", etc.) and a "mechanics demonstration" (weapon modifications, gamemode-specific elements). This way, if a zombie is changed, we wouldn't have to redo the entire video. — [[User:Tark|<span style="font-weight:bold;color: #5BC236">Tark</span>]] 22:51, 27 October 2023 (UTC)
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::: I will do the demo as soon as I get enough votes for it
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::: ----[[User:Slimyboi500|Slimyboi500]] ([[User talk:Slimyboi500|talk]]) [[File:User Slimyboi500 Profile.jpg|25px]] 18:42, 15 November 2023 (UTC)
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::::Voting yes for the demo, ZI and VSH seems stable...for now at least[[User:Profiteer|Profiteer(奸商)the tryhard]] ([[User talk:Profiteer|talk]]) 11:05, 21 November 2023 (UTC)
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== Flippin' Awesome and Skullcracker in VSH ==
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When Saxton Hale used [[Flippin' Awesome]] or [[Skullcracker]], the other mercenary participating the taunt will be [[VS_Saxton_Hale_Mode#cite_ref-10|taunt killed]], is this something worth remaking the taunt demonstration? Or we just keep the current taunt demonstration, but add this feature into the VSH demonstration? --[[User:AlexT|<span style="background:linear-gradient(#D1EEFC, #81F3FD);border:1px #99F3FD solid;color:#007FFF;border-radius:8px">'''Alex'''</span>]]┋[[User talk:AlexT|<span style="color: #FF6600;">'''T'''</span>]] 18:31, 22 July 2023 (UTC)
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:I think a VSH demonstration would be better, as it may be confusing why Saxton Hale is suddenly there when he's not normally playable.<br>[[File:BLU Wiki Cap.png|20px|link=Wiki Cap]] | [[Help:Group rights|<span style="color:green;font-family:TF2 Build;">s</span>]] | [[User:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">GrampaSwood</font>]] ([[User talk:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) 19:52, 22 July 2023 (UTC)
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::Yes, a demonstration regarding VSH, showing all Hale's abilities, and some unique taunt interactions, would be the most ideal (including his default taunt kill). That one would probably be more lengthy, and some things would probably require to be discussed beforehand. Like Mercs being able to wall climb (which is applied to even stock weaponry), should that be shown too? [[File:User Gabrielwoj Signature Icon.png|15px|Headphones style when?|link=User:Gabrielwoj]] - [[File:User Gabrielwoj Signature 1.png|link=User:Gabrielwoj]] ▪ [[File:User Gabrielwoj Signature 2.png|link=Special:Contribs/Gabrielwoj]] - [[File:User Gabrielwoj Signature 3.png|link=User talk:Gabrielwoj]] 20:31, 22 July 2023 (UTC)
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:::I think maybe a demonstration for every game mode could be in order, as a sort of semi-tutorial created by us. A VSH one would fit that too.<br>[[File:BLU Wiki Cap.png|20px|link=Wiki Cap]] | [[Help:Group rights|<span style="color:green;font-family:TF2 Build;">s</span>]] | [[User:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">GrampaSwood</font>]] ([[User talk:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) 08:33, 23 July 2023 (UTC)
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== Configs for partner taunt demonstrations ==
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I've created some configs for partner taunt demonstrations. It automatically spawns 2 bots, places you in the starting position, and has another small command ("teleport") to input after it to teleport both the bots to the right position. It binds H and J to the bots performing taunts, H = BLU bot does taunt, J = RED bot does taunt. They're all class-specific and automatically kick any other bots there. There's no way (right now) that I know of to update the weaponref.zip, so if anyone needs it I can forward you a zip of the files. Just let me know on my talk page (or if you know of a way to update weaponref).<br>[[File:BLU Wiki Cap.png|20px|link=List of Wiki Cap owners]] | [[Help:Group rights|<span style="color:green;font-family:TF2 Build;">s</span>]] | [[User:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">GrampaSwood</font>]] [[File:PraisetheSun.png|20px|alt=Praise the Sun!]] ([[User talk:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) ([[Special:Contributions/GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">contribs</font>]]) 23:56, 13 November 2023 (UTC)
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== New tr_karma and requirements ==
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I've been working in the past week in fixing some issues tr_karma has and some new guidelines. The changes to tr_karma are:
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* Increased lightmap quality in the interiors
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* Fixed a "checkerboard" texture in the gas cylinder, the ceiling fan and the cardboard boxes
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* Added chat scripts to enable noclip (!n in the chat), regenerate (!r), spawn an ammo pack (!am) and enable demonstration server settings (!demo) (these commands are available also in the new tr_karma_basic.cfg)
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* Fixed the func_buttons in the wood targets only working once, thus displaying the hit particle once
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* Removed Tough Break cases and the Gargoyle prop as they didn't fit the ambience
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* Removed the mining cart prop in the rails due of a lighting issue
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* Repacked the map, reducing the map size from ~91 MB to ~18 MB
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The link to the download and new proposed guidelines are [[User:Ashe/Sandbox2|here]]. Check them out and give feedback · [[User:Ashe|<font color="DB9C1F">Ashe</font>]] ([[User talk:Ashe|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) 16:38, 13 December 2023 (UTC)
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== Issues with tr_krama and tr_krama_event ==
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When I start a local server and load tr_krama/tr_krama_event, it won't load (probably because it doesn't exsit) lights/shadow making the map super bright, this only happens on 2 krama maps, I tried to download a modified version of tr_krama on workshop and it worked perfectly, pretty sure something is missing in the map file from weaponref.zip.[[User:Profiteer|<font color="8470FF">Profiteer]] the tryhard ([[User talk:Profiteer|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Profiteer|contribute]])</font> 05:59, 10 March 2024 (UTC)
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:It works fine on my end.<br>[[File:BLU Wiki Cap.png|20px|link=List of Wiki Cap owners]] {{!}} [[Help:Group rights|<span style="color:green;font-family:TF2 Build;">s</span>]] {{!}} [[User:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">GrampaSwood</font>]] [[File:PraisetheSun.png|20px|alt=Praise the Sun!]] ([[User talk:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) ([[Special:Contributions/GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">contribs</font>]]) 10:11, 10 March 2024 (UTC)
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::Join the IRC to help you @Profiteer · [[User:Ashe|<font color="DB9C1F">Ashe</font>]] ([[User talk:Ashe|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) 21:33, 16 March 2024 (UTC)
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:::@Profiteer do you have HDR enabled? · [[User:Ashe|<font color="DB9C1F">Ashe</font>]] ([[User talk:Ashe|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) 16:50, 23 March 2024 (UTC)
  
* Added Lights in the dark room , right side where the soldier standing at.
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== Question about 2D and 3D player models ==
* Added Resupply Locker
 
* Resupply Locker is for Red/Blu
 
[http://www.mediafire.com/?n5z3scin6cyj9g2 Test the map here.] after changed item you don't need to die or rejoin anymore just use the Resupply Locker. let me know if it's useful. [[File:Charger 2.png|20px|]] [[User:Karmacharger|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Karmacharger</span>]] 10:54  ,  31 July 2012 (PDT)
 
:it should replace the old map link because some glitch like Rocket not show when taunt with Buff Banner can fixed with resupply. And Ullapool Caber can use resupply locker to before explode. [[File:Hinaomi-sig.png]] [[User:Hinaomi|Hinaomi]] <small>([[User talk:Hinaomi|talk]]) - ([[Special:Contributions/Hinaomi|contributions]])</small> 08:15, 31 July 2012 (PDT)
 
::I will see it when I have a computer that has TF2 on it and which can load maps, which isn't going to happen for a while. How exactly did you go about decompiling/recompiling the map? The lighting in tr_target_weaponref_hdr can only be achieved using some pretty arcane command-line switches which I don't know right now because it's on my desktop at home but make sure the lighting looks exactly the same (getpos/setpos at the same position in both versions the map, take two screenshots, and compare them to check if it looks the same) — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 17:10, 1 August 2012 (PDT)
 
:[http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/5695/beforek.jpg Before] --- [http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/2995/afterk.jpg After] [[File:Charger 2.png|20px|]] [[User:Karmacharger|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Karmacharger</span>]] 1:14  ,  8/15/2012 (PDT)
 
  
==is anyone looking for longer version of each demonstration music?==
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A question I've had for a while about weapon demonstrations is, is there a specific reason that 2D player images in the HUD are standard rather than the 3D player model (be it for performance, consistency, or any other reason), also considering that 3D player models are enabled by default? The 3D model could also generally be more useful for certain cosmetics or demonstrations. [[User:Scorchshotgaming|Scorchshotgaming]] ([[User talk:Scorchshotgaming|talk]]) 16:47, 8 April 2024 (UTC)
5 minutes version of each songs , [http://www.mediafire.com/?7qt1g25vta7aw6q it is for these people who needed this. ]  ending sound is another file so don't worry. [[File:Charger 2.png|20px|]] [[User:Karmacharger|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Karmacharger</span>]] 09:12  , 5 July 2012 (PDT)
 
  
== Are there any other video recorders besides Wegame or Fraps? ==
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: they're buggy, eat up frame rate on a lot of systems, and aren't really necessary. I don't think they really add anything of value to the videos so my vote would be to keep them disabled. [[User:Mediarch|'''Mediarch''']] [[File:User Mediarch PFP.png|25px]][[User:Mediarch|<font color="#ff66cc"> </font>]][[User talk:Mediarch|'''Talk''']][[User:Mediarch|<font color="#ff66cc"> </font>]][[Special:Contributions/Mediarch|'''My Edits''']] 16:50, 8 April 2024 (UTC)
Wegames isn't working for me, as it won't record properly, and I can't spend money on Fraps. Any other alternatives? --[[User:Enthers|Enthers]]. (''I find this work intriguing. How about yourself, sir?'') 21:33, 17 June 2012 (PDT)
 
:[http://dxtory.com/ dxtory] maybe, but it's not free and haven't tried it. I used to use [http://taksi.sourceforge.net/ Taksi] years ago (very very long ago), it probably doesn't work with recent games though. Otherwise, this is the Internet, so I'm sure you can find ways around barriers — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 22:09, 17 June 2012 (PDT)
 
::But if I use any other video recorder, is that allowed? Do I need to use the full version of fraps? --[[User:Enthers|Enthers]]. (''I find this work intriguing. How about yourself, sir?'') 22:35, 17 June 2012 (PDT)
 
:::you can find the cracked version of fraps , search on youtube make sure many peoples commented it's work. i'm also using the cracked version. [[File:Charger 2.png|20px|]] [[User:Karmacharger|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Karmacharger</span>]] 06:48  ,  17 June 2012 (PDT)
 
:::The only reason the full version of fraps is required is that it includes a watermark at the top of the video, which is unacceptable. Any screen recorder can be used, as long as no traits are left. <small>— ''The preceding unsigned comment was added by'' '''[[User:Pigophone|Pigophone]]''' ([[User talk:Pigophone|talk]]) • ([[Special:Contributions/Pigophone|contribs]]) 07:23, 18 June 2012</small>
 
:I use [http://www.bandicam.com/ Bandicam] myself, works well. --[[User:Org|Org]] 22:40, 12 July 2012 (PDT)
 
  
== Kill-Assist Video Demonstration Request ==
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::As far as I know, there's no real reason that we prefer one over the other. 3D models are enabled by default, but it may have just been something that was done for a while and became the standard.<br>[[File:BLU Wiki Cap.png|20px|link=List of Wiki Cap owners]] {{!}} [[Help:Group rights|<span style="color:green;font-family:TF2 Build;">s</span>]] {{!}} [[User:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">GrampaSwood</font>]] [[File:PraisetheSun.png|20px|alt=Praise the Sun!]] ([[User talk:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) ([[Special:Contributions/GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">contribs</font>]]) 16:57, 8 April 2024 (UTC)
  
I have no idea what should be shown, but at the moment there is only this:<br> [[File:Assist_demo.png|300px]] <br>, and that is not really a "fluent" Demonstration. So let's talk about that, shall we? [[User:TheDoctor|TheDoctor]] 19:09, 26 July 2012 (PDT)
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:::Fair point, it would obviously be a massive hassle to redo every demonstration with a 2D player model. Also for some people I suppose keeping them off improves framerate. [[User:Scorchshotgaming|Scorchshotgaming]] ([[User talk:Scorchshotgaming|talk]]) 19:59, 8 April 2024 (UTC)
:{{c|Support}} This image is not from official map. We should do at least image or video. 08:40, 27 July 2012 (PDT)
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::::I'm pretty sure it's because when they were added to the game, it caused lag to a lot of people. The recent 64 bits update fixed the 3d character using a lot of cpu and now it shouldn't affect fps (although i guess modern pcs didn't have issue with it anyways) · [[User:Ashe|<font color="DB9C1F">Ashe</font>]] ([[User talk:Ashe|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) 15:21, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
:{{c|Support}} But not as part of the weapon demonstration project. Do your own video and maybe pass it by me if you want a QA check but use th article's talk page or PM me — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 17:10, 1 August 2012 (PDT)
 
  
== Strange Weapons ==
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== Mastercomfig question ==
  
Just an idea I had, but would it be a good idea to demonstrate how strange weapons accumulate ranks? --[[User:Dattix|Dattix]] 16:38, 1 August 2012 (PDT)
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I am planning to make a demonstration, and the recommended requirements state that Mastercomfig High/Ultra is preferrable. However, I highly doubt my PC is able to run Mastercomfig High/Ultra properly and all the other high graphics settings. Is it acceptable if I use Mastercomfig Medium High and use average graphics settings? May look slightly lower quality than a typical reservation, but I don't think much will be affected. [[User:Scorchshotgaming|Scorchshotgaming]] ([[User talk:Scorchshotgaming|talk]]) 21:44, 18 April 2024 (UTC)
:Again not as part of the weapon demonstration project (although it is closely related). Feel free to use this talk page for that though because I'm not sure where else it'd be put — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 17:10, 1 August 2012 (PDT)
 
  
== When is Wind gonna be back? ==
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:Ultra is preferable, but setting your game to all max settings should suffice.<br>[[File:BLU Wiki Cap.png|20px|link=List of Wiki Cap owners]] {{!}} [[Help:Group rights|<span style="color:green;font-family:TF2 Build;">s</span>]] {{!}} [[User:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">GrampaSwood</font>]] [[File:PraisetheSun.png|20px|alt=Praise the Sun!]] ([[User talk:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) ([[Special:Contributions/GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">contribs</font>]]) 21:45, 18 April 2024 (UTC)
  
Yes as soon he will. [[File:Charger 2.png|20px|]] [[User:Karmacharger|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Karmacharger</span>]] 8:20  ,  8/6/2012 (PDT)
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::Well, I'll look through some configurations, and if I find one that looks high enough quality without sacrificing my computer's performance I will use it (my PC is not too high spec, to say the least). My demonstration is for the Cleaner's Carbine; once you review it tell me your thoughts. For me this is especially important because I will need to screen record this too. [[User:Scorchshotgaming|Scorchshotgaming]] ([[User talk:Scorchshotgaming|talk]]) 21:48, 18 April 2024 (UTC)
:In a week or so — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 04:06, 6 August 2012 (PDT)
 

Latest revision as of 04:11, 31 May 2024


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Tools

Chemistry Set Chemistry Set

Old discussion (2020)

Hi, just made a vid demonstration about Chemistry kit. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R2uEkaw6Jbs&feature=youtu.be What should i do next? ~ Fokus 03.06.2020 16:50 GMT+2

Hi there,
You now have to wait for WindPower to respond. He usually does this every week on Sundays, though he's very busy nowadays.
My advice on your video is: Don't start in the Main Menu, start in the backpack (first page) instead. Make sure your backpack's page is also clear of other stuff, so when you finished using the chemistry set it doesnt go to the third page and you'll have to drag it from there. Show yourself using the Chemistry Set, too, it's part of its functionality. Your video also seems to have a delay between sound and the video.
It also lacks editing.
GrampaSwood (talk) 15:05, 3 June 2020 (UTC)
> he's very busy nowadays
You give me too much credit. — Wind 05:44, 8 July 2020 (UTC)
Hi, thanks for tips. I fixed the video, now it should be much better. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-fgON6QQ6Mk&feature=youtu.be
Fokuskii (talk) 23:53, 3 June 2020 (UTC)
The same problem applies with the backpack. It should start on the first page (that's empty except for the required items). The section where you hover over the chemistry set is too long, perhaps make it 1 or 2 seconds. The same thing applies to the end, show the strangifier being applied. It also lacks fading (A lot of these things can be fixed with simple editing, but I think the pages thing will have to be done with a new one :\)
GrampaSwood (talk) 13:10, 4 June 2020 (UTC)
The video should also be 1080p (your first version was 1080p but the second version is 720p). Agreed with all other comments — Wind 05:44, 8 July 2020 (UTC)

I have both an alt and a professor speks chemistry set for this demonstration, I just have yet to find the password to the account...
BLU Wiki Cap.png | s | GrampaSwood Praise the Sun! (talk) (contribs) 21:36, 12 November 2023 (UTC)

Hey, was wondering if this was still open? I can do a possible version with a collector chemistry kit but not sure if it matters if it's strangifier or collector's. God'sWrath (talk) 01:15, 16 February 2024 (UTC)

It's still open, although a collector's kit may be too large as it would require showing all 100 items added.
BLU Wiki Cap.png | s | GrampaSwood Praise the Sun! (talk) (contribs) 11:13, 16 February 2024 (UTC)
Ah, alright so what if I show a strangifier first and add a section for the collector's where I only put 1 in but I put disclaimer stating it's x amount of x items and not 1 item for a collector's kit? So video doesn't drag out. God'sWrath (talk) 03:41, 17 February 2024 (UTC)
Just pick a simpler, cheaper chemistry set like in the first video · Ashe (talk) 05:15, 17 February 2024 (UTC)

I've reserved this but I've been thinking it over and I'm not sure if it's really necessary. The Strangifier demonstration shows the exact same process of completing a chemistry set to acquire a strangifier and then applying it to the item. Both demonstrations would bassically be the same. Do we really need two demonstrations showing the exact same thing? Or what should this demonstration do to be different from the Strangifier demonstration? Mediarch User Mediarch PFP.pngTalkMy Edits 22:01, 29 May 2024 (UTC)

Upgrade to Premium Gift Upgrade to Premium Gift

I'm not quite sure if this one is necessary User Karmacharger Charger 2.png Karmacharger 9:12 PM 8/24/2014 (PDT)
Nah, probably not unless someone just happens to run upon that item — Wind 19:59, 27 October 2014 (PDT)

Question: Do I need to show I, person giving the premium gift, receive the professor speks?
GrampaSwood (talk) 11:04, 6 September 2019 (UTC)

Yes, that's part of the item's effects. — Wind 23:39, 8 September 2019 (UTC)

I have brought the premium gift to another account, the only issue is that the professor speks is already on my TF2 account, so I would need a third account to receive the speks (while already having premium). It may take a while longer but if anyone else wants to give a crack at it.
BLU Wiki Cap.png | s | GrampaSwood Praise the Sun! (talk) (contribs) 21:36, 12 November 2023 (UTC)

Something Special For Someone Special Something Special For Someone Special (Tool)

Pictogram wait.png This demonstration has been reserved: Mediarch User Mediarch PFP.pngTalkMy Edits 00:29, 2 May 2024 (UTC)

Old discussion (2019)

Hi. I know this item is quite expensive for someone to make a demonstration, but I was thinking, a video showcasing how the item works (which the purchaser's choose they person), and then, on the same video, showing the chosen player's screen perspective, showing the option to accept the proposal, and after that, showing the notification on the Main Menu for the accepted proposal.
Considering the high cost that would be making this demonstration, I wonder if Valve could gives us a hand and supply one for our demonstrations purposes, as long we delete both rings after doing the full video.
It seems that the process is mostly the same as the Gift Wrap, but I have no idea how are the things when someone receives that Gift. We also lack a proper Gift Wrap video, apparently. User Gabrielwoj Signature Icon.png - User Gabrielwoj Signature 1.pngUser Gabrielwoj Signature 2.png - User Gabrielwoj Signature 3.png 19:26, 16 July 2019 (UTC)

Keep dreaming, valve won't even fix server issues much less give us free items. If you are planning to make a demonstration though, better ask windpower for some super detailed instructions to make sure it's right the first time. Naleksuh (talk) 21:37, 18 July 2019 (UTC)
Well, they have the ability to both give and delete items, it could work? Yes. Will it happen? We don't know. If there's anything we can do, is ask for someone who plans on buying one legitimately and asking them for help. Last time that the item got in 50% off, a lot of people bought one, so. User Gabrielwoj Signature Icon.png - User Gabrielwoj Signature 1.pngUser Gabrielwoj Signature 2.png - User Gabrielwoj Signature 3.png 20:01, 19 July 2019 (UTC)
If you give it some time, I could save up to get it and try to make it.
GrampaSwood (talk) 20:16, 19 July 2019 (UTC)
I offer to give a 50 USD Steam gift card to anyone who has already gotten an item demonstration video approved and uploaded in order to make this demonstration, and then another 50 USD Steam gift card upon video approval. I'm not sure what the price of the item is in other currencies but I'll also match that if possible as long as it's not too much more expensive. Please make sure to record both sides (sender account and receiver account). — Wind 23:00, 21 July 2019 (UTC)
Well, I guess we should start discussing how should it be done. Firstly, I think the Gifter should be named "Scout" and the Recipient be "Miss Pauling". Scout has the Scout avatar (184x184 version from Steam), while Miss Pauling can use this. I think the name could be something along what Scout would say, my suggestion, name it as "You are really frickin' sweet". That'd go nice, eh?
Secondly, I don't know who's going to be the Recipient. Should we create a Steam account just for that, or should we rely with another Video Demonstration Creator to do a collab? User Gabrielwoj Signature Icon.png - User Gabrielwoj Signature 1.pngUser Gabrielwoj Signature 2.png - User Gabrielwoj Signature 3.png 23:55, 21 July 2019 (UTC)

well how about we can hit two birds with one store and do the ring and the Upgrade to Premium Gift from the same two account?, First the two account would demostrate the Upgrade to Premium Gift which the sender should buy it from the store and send to the receiver who don't have premium. them Recycle the same account to do the ring. We could make a story out of it as well from friendship when a user gifted the premium to the other use then after few days they both got engaged via the sender would give the ring. It won't end up a awkward situation. but for this situation we need 4 people to do the ring tho 2 sender reciever, 2 regular tf2 player to recieved the message one in the tf2 main menu and the other while in-gameJomarcenter (talk) 14:27, 28 August 2019 (UTC)
That's a cute story, but let's keep the demonstration to just one item (the ring), not the Upgrade to Premium Gift on top of it. — Wind 22:17, 1 September 2019 (UTC)
I don't know what you're talking about, wind. Story time is clearly more important than the actual video. (but in all seriousness the two accounts would be okay to reuse right?) Naleksuh (talk) 04:52, 4 September 2019 (UTC)
Yeah, sure, it would just be two separate videos — Wind 23:39, 8 September 2019 (UTC)

I kind of thought the role playing names were unnnecessary to begin with, and could also cause confusion as to whether or not those texts always appear in game. But if WP or thed feels that's the best way to do it without commercializing it then oh well for me.
The two steam accounts would be kinda hard to sync up (and would also be a waste of $100), i'm willing to be proposed to if no one else will :) Naleksuh (talk) 01:06, 25 July 2019 (UTC)
No need for roleplaying. It's cool if you want to do it but totally optional. — Wind 06:26, 29 July 2019 (UTC)

Mannpower Powerup King.png Mannpower powerups

Pictogram comment.png Demonstrate all powerups.

Pictogram comment.png Show you can switch to the Grappling Hook under the effects of the Knockout powerup.

Hello, I had a question about preforming/recording this demonstration. Mannpower has a domination mechanic (Not to be confused with dominations), this mechanic works by when a player has many more kills than other players on the enemy team, and so that player gets nerfs on their power ups. I'm guessing I would have to demonstrate this in the video, however I do not know how to activate it. I have not been able to activate this on myself in tr_karma, however even if I did, the player who is dominating does not get the message on their screen showing that they are dominating. The only effects the player who is dominating sees is they are marked for death if they have a power up, and a nerf on that power up for that player. I don't know how I would go about demonstrating the effects of domination mechanic, considering the viewer wouldn't know that being marked for death with a power up means you are dominating. If I were to get the domination mechanic to work, should I just show the class as marked for death, or something else? Andrew360 Edit icon.png Taunt Rancho Relaxo.png 01:51, 12 July 2022 (UTC)

This does sound hard to demonstrate. If you enable third-person mode, do you see the skull icon above the player's head in the 3D world (not on the HUD)? If so, here's a structure that might work:
  • Spawn enough enemies on the map such that you can reach domination status, and still have enough enemies left over to show that the effect isn't about killing *all* other enemies.
  • Start the demonstration in first-person mode.
  • Switch to third-person mode.
  • Kill enough enemies such that domination status appears.
  • Highlight the correlation between the third-person skull icon and the HUD one, for example by zooming in on both at once, or drawing a red box around both or something.

Now you've established that "skull on HUD" = "having killed enough enemies".

Now, demonstrate each powerup one by one. For each powerup, do a split-screen, with the left being non-dominating, and the right being already-in-dominating status. Pick up the powerup on both clips and demonstrate the effect. The skull icon being visible on the clip on the right should be enough of a hint that this is the cause. If not obvious enough, you can draw attention to it at the beginning of the clip, such as by drawing a red box over it or something.

Hope this helps. I suggest doing a test demo with just one or two powerups demonstrated and posting it here first before doing all the work it would take to get this all done for all powerups, as there are a lot. (Perhaps each powerup should have its own video? That's a separate question...)

Wind 21:39, 31 July 2022 (UTC)

I might try my hand at this, but only after I finish my other demonstrations and receive feedback and corrections for them. Po1yb1ank (talk) 23:56, 14 December 2023 (UTC)

Secret Saxton Secret Saxton

Pictogram wait.png This demonstration has been reserved: CheddarTalk 16:07, 27 April 2024 (UTC)
I don't think it's very needed, but since it seems very simple, I can do it · Ashe (talk) 05:13, 16 December 2023 (UTC)

Won't you need another person since they are only delivered to players while playing on a server? Cheddar (talk) 08:18, 16 December 2023 (UTC)
To add on, maybe have it filmed from the perspective of the gift being sent, and have the perspective of the recipient? Cheddar (talk) 08:19, 16 December 2023 (UTC)
I could help with this one, I can do most days after 22:00 CEST Po1yb1ank (talk) 15:29, 16 December 2023 (UTC)
@Po1yb1ank we appreciate your enthusiasm, but before doing this, please complete the KGB video first. I can wait · Ashe (talk) 17:45, 16 December 2023 (UTC)
Sure thing, I've just been trying to edit it and the fist bump videos, expect them both in the coming days. Po1yb1ank (talk) 21:34, 16 December 2023 (UTC)
I might delay doing the KGB taunt until the new year, I was going through the files and all of them have bots dropping the Smissmas presents, so expect the KGB to be completed later than expected. Po1yb1ank (talk) 13:55, 20 December 2023 (UTC)

──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── I'm still up for making this demonstration, I would need a lovely assistant to help out with it. Cheddar (talk) 18:24, 21 January 2024 (UTC)

IF you still need an assist I could help some time just let me know Mediarch (talk) 23:43, 12 March 2024 (UTC)
Yeah still need a hand with it, the only problem is getting a way to join one another because using create server won't make it joinable, I think there some other stuff you gotta do.
CheddarTalk 07:53, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
pretty sure You should be able to use https://na.serveme.tf/ to temporarily rent a server. That's what a lot of the competitive teams use for matches. If that doesn't work I could ask around and know a few people that might have their own servers we could borrow Mediarch (talk) 08:49, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
Here is the demo feedback needed!
CheddarTalk 17:30, 27 April 2024 (UTC)
Here is a newer version!
CheddarTalk 19:51, 28 April 2024 (UTC)
Looks good. Thanks · Ashe (talk) 15:04, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
Here is a newer version!
CheddarTalk 21:39, 29 May 2024 (UTC)

Action

Spellbook Magazine Spellbook Magazine

Pictogram comment.png Demonstrate all Magic spells with the Stock (Normal quality) version equipped.

Pictogram comment.png Maybe include this one on the Magic spells page, other spellbook variants are not needed (Fancy and Diary).
Suggestion: Use tf_test_spellindex to always get a specific spell · Ashe (talk) 21:19, 28 January 2024 (UTC)

Fancy Spellbook Fancy Spellbook

Pictogram comment.png Same as above, with the exception that the particle effects that emit on the hand are different.

Fireproof Secret Diary Fireproof Secret Diary

Pictogram comment.png Same as above, with the exception that the particle effects that emit on the hand are different.

Kritz or Treat Canteen Kritz or Treat Canteen

Heavyhumiliation.png Match outcomes

Pictogram comment.png Current one does not show front, crouching, running, etc, at all angles.

So there's a bit of a problem with showing the other angles with this demonstration, as you can't actually rotate the camera. Despite it being in third person, you cannot change the angle of the camera nor use +left or +right to make only the camera move. Any attempt to move the camera either doesn't work or makes the character move along with the camera. My original plan for this demonstration was the following:

  • Show a split screen with a player on RED team on one screen and player on BLU team on the other screen
    • The RED player would capture the intelligence on 2Fort, and the other screen would show the BLU player in humiliation after they lose
      • This part would repeat for each class
  • It would then cut to tr_karma where I would rotate the camera around the class when they're standing, crouching, running, etc
  • After this I would move on to the next class until all of them are done

However I can't do this because I can't rotate the camera, does anyone have any ideas on how to rotate or have other ideas of how to demonstration and show the different angles?
Andrew360 Edit icon.png Taunt Rancho Relaxo.png 22:47, 6 February 2023 (UTC)

How about just use the RED player to see the BLU humiliation animation. Like:
RED player is the main camera, BLU player is a bot/a smaller pip/split screen in the video
  1. BLU player stands beside the intel point
  2. RED player captures the intel and win the game
  3. BLU player enters humiliation
  4. RED player look at the BLU player
  5. BLU player moves around to show off the humiliation animation.
I feel like this also shows off the concept of "match outcomes", make the whole story connected via one team wins and see another team loses with humiliation animations. Do we have to use tr_karma map for demonstration? Is this demonstration video about "match outcomes" or "humiliation animations"?--AlexT 03:19, 7 February 2023 (UTC)
Simply using thirdperson_mayamode it would be possible to show off these animations from a stationary angle (turning your character rather than camera, although tr_karma/tr_target have no winning objective, so you'd need a different map for it (I suggest Thunder Mountain and standing in first BLU's spawn so it's still somewhat related to the tr_target map, using mp_bonusroundtime to extend the time at the end and just capping the first point).
GrampaSwood (talk) 11:01, 7 February 2023 (UTC)
I'm a bit confused on what you mean on the capping part, as you say to stay in BLU spawn, but also cap the point to win which would make BLU would win and RED would be in humiliation. Do you mean to make the time run out so RED wins instead?
Andrew360 Edit icon.png Taunt Rancho Relaxo.png 23:24, 7 February 2023 (UTC)
Either works. Just any way to make the classes go into the humiliation pose. I personally wouldn't mind it that much if RED was in BLU spawn, but it's up to you.
GrampaSwood (talk) 12:33, 8 February 2023 (UTC)
I went in game to test out thirdperson_mayamode, and it does not work, as for some reason the losing animation isn't considered as in "thirdperson" by the game I think. Does anyone else have any other ideas? Only other way I can think of is using SourceTV, however I don't know how to set that up.
Andrew360 Edit icon.png Taunt Rancho Relaxo.png 01:15, 12 February 2023 (UTC)

Need to be redone

Crusader's Crossbow Crusader's Crossbow

Pictogram comment.png Ubercharge gain rate is reduced in the same way that the Medi Gun's healing (and therefore, Ubercharge build rate) is - it is based on the last time the target was in combat.

Pictogram comment.png Does not show that if you try to heal up an enemy Spy, Über is not built.

Pictogram comment.png Does not show that if you heal an enemy player through a Pyro's reflect, Über is built.

I removed the clip from the previous demonstration when the medic is building his übercharge with the crossbow, the actual changes make it way too long. VideoThedop (talk) 14:44, 11 September 2019 (UTC)

The picture-in-picture clip is too large and covers the center of the main video's vision. So when the heavy/spy turns to see the medic, it just doesn't show up on the screen. Please decrease the size of the picture-in-picture — Wind 00:38, 16 September 2019 (UTC)
Second tryThedop (talk) 06:45, 25 September 2019 (UTC)
The Minigun is still hiding the medic when he's firing... — Wind 00:07, 30 September 2019 (UTC)
*sigh* Thedop's demonstration has been in hiatus for two years. Maybe I can make my own demonstration if Thedop doesn't mind. — Exaskliri (they/them) (talk | contribs) 06:43, 14 April 2022 (UTC)
Demonstration reservations are only valid for 2 weeks. If the reservation tag remains on a video and no action has happened since, you can ignore the reservation and replace it with a reservation of your own. — Wind 00:33, 24 April 2022 (UTC)
Oh, and by the way, don't forget to add a demonstration of healing afterburn (probably the most common type of status effect). Qwertyxp2000 (talk) 23:17, 16 June 2022 (UTC)
Definitely doable for making an entry about using Crossbow at point blank range to both hit enemies and heal teammates. Qwertyxp2000 (talk) 21:06, 25 June 2022 (UTC)

Enforcer Enforcer

Note: Future redos won't have to do as many status effect clips as the previous video. - Thedop 19:11, 20 October 2018 (UTC+1)

Gloves of Running Urgently Gloves of Running Urgently

Pictogram comment.png Show the hidden (?) functionality with Dalakohs Bar/Fishcake.

Pictogram comment.png Have a section dedicated to see if it's faster to run with the GRU at a certain point + eating the Dalokhs vs. not using the GRU.

GRU has a hidden (?) functionality with the chocolate bar which can regenerate all the health lost upon eating. Not shown on the demonstration video, should it be? Video about the functionality. I am also not sure if this should be a thing on the Daloks/Fishcake video or GRU (or both). User Gabrielwoj Signature Icon.png - User Gabrielwoj Signature 1.pngUser Gabrielwoj Signature 2.png - User Gabrielwoj Signature 3.png 14:29, 14 August 2021 (UTC)

It's most likely a glitch and not intended. Yes, it's been out since forever, but so are other glitches out there, and these videos typically don't demonstrate these, in order to avoid a redo in case valve ever fixes them (lol, I know). — Wind 05:03, 17 September 2021 (UTC)

Holiday Punch Holiday Punch

Pictogram comment.png Does not demonstrate that disguised spies do not laugh from Holiday Punch.

Pictogram comment.png Does not demonstrate interaction between cloaked spies and Holiday Punch crits.

I kind of felt Holiday Punch could possibly be redone such that it demonstrates its interaction with cloaked and disguised spies. Qwertyxp2000 (talk) 08:11, 17 March 2020 (UTC)

Not very practical, but sure, if anyone's up for it — Wind 04:11, 24 April 2020 (UTC)
Not sure if I have to create a new section for the Holiday Punch or add information on an already existing one, but there's several things that probably should also be demonstrated:
Pictogram comment.png Demonstrate that enemies underwater doesn't laugh on the back / critical hits, which therefore, they don't receive damage (The map used for demonstrations does not have water, though)
Pictogram comment.png Demonstrate that punching an enemy at the back / doing a critical hit on an enemy that is jumping / is on the air, has no effect, and does no damage
Pictogram comment.png Demonstrate that it's possible to tickle enemies that are being Ubercharged, possibly include both the patient and the Medic being tickled
  • Tickle the patient first, show that it's still in the effects of Uber, and tickle the Medic second, that would probably be more ideal, so it shows that when a Medic is tickled, his target loses the healing / ubercharge
  • Perhaps also demonstrate the Quick-Fix ubercharge, since it mentions it blocks "movement-impairing effects", which isn't the case for the Holiday Punch (I'm pretty sure you can still get tickled with the Quick-Fix uber)
Pictogram comment.png Demonstrate that a Scout with the effects of Bonk! can be tickled
Pictogram comment.png Demonstrate that a Soldier with the Battalion's Backup active, as well his teammates receiving the Backup effect, can still be tickled
A few other ones that I am unsure about:
Pictogram comment.png Demonstrate that it's not possible to tickle robots and giant robots on MVM (I don't think we often make MVM-related stuff on these demonstrations, unless it's an unique mechanic like the Projectile Shield)
Pictogram comment.png Demonstrate that an enemy who is taunting does not get tickled, and that it receives no damage on critical hits Headphones style when? - User Gabrielwoj Signature 1.pngUser Gabrielwoj Signature 2.png - User Gabrielwoj Signature 3.png 04:23, 24 April 2022 (UTC)
The tr_karma_rc1 map has water (see Sydney Sleeper demonstration here). I use that map for demonstrations, as it is preferred (according to the Weapon Demonstration page). — Exaskliri (they/them) (talk | contribs) 09:23, 24 April 2022 (UTC)
No to the Quick-Fix + Bonk + Battalion's Backup things; as the project page states, non-stock item interactions are usually not demonstrated, in order to avoid having a full explosion of weapon interactions to demonstrate. The Quick Fix one also sounds like a bug, so usually that isn't worth demonstrating either because it has marginal utility and may eventually get patched, which would just create more video work later down the line. But all the other points are good to demonstrate, so +1 that a redo is in order for this one — Wind 04:49, 12 May 2022 (UTC)

I have an idea on how the new video might be represented:

Part 1: The Main Gang (Pyro, Soldier, Medic, Spy)

  • Do the same actions as was done in the original video

Part 2: Basic Interactions Do the same actions as was done in the original video, demonstrating Kritzkrieg on Soldier (via friendly Medic) and Jarate on Demoman (via friendly Sniper), plus another for Medic interactions.

Part 2a:

  1. Approach friendly Kritzkrieg Medic, who has full charge
  2. Get charged with the Kritzkrieg buff
  3. Keep punching the enemy Soldier until the buff wears off
  4. Punch again while the buff is off, and keep doing it until the Soldier dies

Part 2b:

  1. Approach friendly Sniper holding Jarate
  2. Let the Sniper throw Jarate at the enemy Demoman
  3. Attack the Demoman normally while he is Jarated
  4. Attack the Demoman from behind while he is Jarated
  5. Kill the Demoman normally again while he is Jarated

Part 2c:

  1. (This is where the new stuff begins) Approach an enemy Medic who is healing a friendly enemy Scout with his Medi Gun
  2. Attack the Scout from the front and behind
  3. Enemy Medic activate Medi Gun invulnerability
  4. Do the same as Step 2 onto Scout except while Übercharged
  5. Do the same as Step 4 except on Medic

Part 3: Versus Mittens Heavy

  1. Approach the enemy Mittens Heavy
  2. Attack the Mittens Heavy with your Holiday Punch. Watch him laugh.
  3. Let the Mittens Heavy attack you with his Holiday Punch. Watch yourself laugh.
  4. Mittens Heavy will swap out Holiday Punch for Minigun.
  5. Attack the Heavy with your Holiday Punch.
  6. Swap your Holiday Punch for the Shotgun
  7. Mittens Heavy will swap out Minigun for Holiday Punch
  8. Let the Mittens Heavy attack you with his Holiday Punch.
  9. (This is where the new stuff begins) Jump, and while mid-air let the Mittens Heavy attack you with his Holiday Punch. There should be no laugh.
  10. Go behind the Mitten Heavy's back
  11. Let the Mittens Heavy jump, and attack the Mittens Heavy with your Holiday Punch. There should be no laugh.

Part 4: Spy Interactions View from the Heavy's and Spy's points of view, with a smaller video on the top-right (or something like that) for the Spy's point of view.

  1. Approach the enemy Spy
  2. Let the enemy Spy cloak
  3. Attack the Spy with your Holiday Punch from behind. There should be no laugh.
  4. Let the enemy Spy uncloak and disguise as any class (maybe the Heavy again)
  5. Attack the Spy with your Holiday Punch from behind. There should be no laugh.

Part 5: Taunts and Water

  1. Let the enemy Engineer taunt from his Shotgun. It should be the one where he dances around.
  2. While the enemy Engineer is taunting, attack him from behind with the Holiday Punch. There should be no laugh.
  3. Repeat Steps 1 and 2 except attack him from the front.
  4. The enemy Engineer runs to the water. Follow him into the water.
  5. Attack him from behind with the Holiday Punch. There should be no laugh.

Part 6: Robots

  1. Approach an enemy Robot, preferably the Holiday Punch Heavy Robot.
  2. Attack him with your Holiday Punch from the front, and then attack him from behind. There should be no laugh.

Qwertyxp2000 (talk) 02:49, 8 June 2022 (UTC) Qwertyxp2000 (talk) 02:51, 8 June 2022 (UTC) Qwertyxp2000 (talk) 10:08, 8 June 2022 (UTC)

Very detailed, nice. — Wind 22:48, 19 June 2022 (UTC)
By the way, I also think that it would be helpful to add a section dedicating to observing a duration comparison for all Schadenfreude taunts. I have a feeling that the length of the taunt has an impact on gameplay of the Holiday Punch. So maybe we could do a section where 9 Holiday Punch Heavies simultaneously attack one of each class, which demonstrates the time it would take to get out of the forced animation. Qwertyxp2000 (talk) 01:41, 22 June 2022 (UTC)
Might be cool if only for the comedy of it all. — Wind 21:39, 31 July 2022 (UTC)
On "Part 4 - Let the enemy Spy uncloak and disguise as any class (maybe the Heavy again)", why not make the Spy disguise as the Heavy, and make sure that the Holiday Punch is active? The Spy won't be able to laugh, but I wonder if you (the player), would laugh. In case that happens, then it would be important to also showcase trying to punch the Spy from behind without having him with the Holiday Punch active. Headphones style when? - User Gabrielwoj Signature 1.pngUser Gabrielwoj Signature 2.png - User Gabrielwoj Signature 3.png 03:19, 18 February 2023 (UTC)
Actually, never mind. For some reason I thought you also laughed with who you just punched that is also wearing the mittens (it commonly happens when both Heavies hold their left clicks after being tickled). But, the Spy wearing the Holiday Punch may be the best scenario here, so it shows that the disguise is not lost (although make sure to show also without the mittens active, and, when the mittens is active for Spy, punch him from the back, then punch him from the front). Headphones style when? - User Gabrielwoj Signature 1.pngUser Gabrielwoj Signature 2.png - User Gabrielwoj Signature 3.png 13:08, 18 February 2023 (UTC)

Original Original

Pictogram wait.png This demonstration has been reserved: MudkipOnYT (talk) 18:23, 5 April 2024 (UTC)

Old Reservation (5th January 2024)

Pictogram comment.png Missing new reload sound I'd say this is an incredibly low priority one, may not even be worth redoing.
GrampaSwood (talk) 11:23, 17 January 2023 (UTC)

I hope I've done this correctly, I am just beginning to get to work setting up to film my demonstration — MudkipOnYT (talk) 18:23, 5 April 2024 (UTC)

Here is the link to my finished demonstration, I noticed other users who uploaded to Google Drive being told by the Moderators that their videos were in 30FPS. This one is at 60FPS, it just doesn't play at 60FPS in the Google Drive embedded player, it must be downloaded. Awaiting feedback! — MudkipOnYT (talk) 12:10, 6 April 2024 (UTC)

In the firing angle demonstrations, wait for about 3 seconds before commencing the firing. The rightwards angle demonstration is a bit too quick. Same with the frontal angle demonstration. Also, for the rocket jumping demonstration, don't wiggle around the screen so much during those idle phases; 1:29-1:31 are quite noticeably obvious. Qwertyxp2000 (talk) 22:03, 22 April 2024 (UTC)

Yeah I notice all of that now, can just go and re-record it at some point, I also interrupted the reload animation at the beginning. - MudkipOnYT (talk) 10:05, 23 April 2024 (UTC)

Power Up Canteen Power Up Canteen

Pictogram comment.png Doesn't show Canteen Specialist upgrades like Battery Canteens demo does

I feel like I can do a demonstration for this one. But my canteen is a crafted version so it has my username on it. Is that acceptable ? Kaezle (talk) 04:21, 25 August 2019 (UTC)

If you right click on it you should be able to remove that. Naleksuh (talk) 06:22, 25 August 2019 (UTC)
I think the stock version (Normal quality) should be used over the Unique one, considering all players have it. User Gabrielwoj Signature Icon.png - User Gabrielwoj Signature 1.pngUser Gabrielwoj Signature 2.png - User Gabrielwoj Signature 3.png 04:23, 14 August 2021 (UTC)

Sandvich Sandvich

Pictogram comment.png Show that a dropped plate doesn't heal

Pictogram wait.png This demonstration has been reserved: Mediarch User Mediarch PFP.pngTalkMy Edits 19:57, 20 May 2024 (UTC)

Hinaomi recommended this, so might as well try it. I would be up to make it if it's a valid reason GrampaSwood (talk) 12:02, 13 September 2019 (UTC)

Not sure I follow. You mean that picking up a dropped plate restocks the sandvich? That's already demonstrated... — Wind 00:38, 16 September 2019 (UTC)
Show that picking up a sandvich that's dropped via mouse2 doesn't heal.
GrampaSwood (talk) 05:30, 16 September 2019 (UTC)
Oh OK, yeah. Might replace the existing pickup from full health then, so that it doesn't make the clip longer. — Wind 04:28, 23 September 2019 (UTC)
Sure. Yes, please replace the existing pickup. — Wind 04:11, 24 April 2020 (UTC)
Just talked on the IRC channel today (log) and GrampaSwood willingly relinquished the reservation for me. I am gonna focus on my reservations first, though. — Exaskliri (they/them) (talk | contribs) 15:54, 18 April 2022 (UTC)

Here's Sandvich demonstration ready for feedback Mediarch User Mediarch PFP.pngTalkMy Edits 19:59, 21 May 2024 (UTC)

Self-Aware Beauty Mark Self-Aware Beauty Mark

Pictogram wait.png This demonstration has been reserved: KingK (talk) 04:16, 6 January 2024 (UTC)

Pictogram comment.png Updated description. (Also handy for putting out a fire)

Pictogram comment.png Extinguish an ally reduces the cooldown by 20%

A funny bug but i think i better waiting for Valve to fix it. - Thedop 10:35, 12 October 2018 (UTC+1)

Hey there, I decided I'd help out on this Hopefully around Jan 8-9 would be where I have everything for this demonstration. KingK (talk) 04:16, 6 January 2024 (UTC)

Alright I got it all right here.

Video - KingK (talk) 03:51, 10 January 2024 (UTC)

Seems like your graphics settings aren't on the max, the windows on tr_karma also seem to be bugged. For the first clip, your kill sound should be turned off. For the second clip, make sure to switch all the bots back to the Shotgun. For the third clip, the clip is quite laggy and the sound suddenly increases halfway through. Fourth clip looks fine, albeit with some quality issues as mentioned before. For the first Spy clip, make sure to wait until he's fully invisible to throw the Jarate on him. Splitting up the cloaked and disguised Spy clip like this is better imo, rather than having it be one clip like the original. In the clip where you extinguish 3 teammates, it's fine to just use a single Heavy for that rather than 3 teammates. Maybe 3 clips at the same time would also be suitable for this: one to show off no extinguish, one to show off 1 extinguish, and one to show off extinguishing 2 teammates. It would show that 1 ally extinguished and 2 allies extinguished equally reduces the cooldown.
Other than that, remember to stand still between each clip. It seems like this was most notable on the clip with you and the Heavy being extinguished. The minimum acceptable video quality would be 1080p 60fps, perhaps recording only at that resolution rather than 4k will help with running the game a bit smoother, as currently some clips are very laggy even on 1080p.
BLU Wiki Cap.png | s | GrampaSwood Praise the Sun! (talk) (contribs) 11:48, 10 January 2024 (UTC)


Aight will get working on it, Thanks Grampa Swood KingK (talk) 11:52, 10 January 2024 (UTC)
Here's the newly updated video
Video
KingK (talk) 15:54, 12 January 2024 (UTC)
The video still looks laggy. It was not recorded at 60 fps. Also your antialiasing settings are still low. Use 4x or 8x.
The video still has some problems. General: You wait too much between clips. When using half/third width clips don't disabled the HUD. I know that sometimes the elements look out of place but that can be fixed by editing the hud. First clip: The jar being misplaced is not your fault, but I think I can send a fix here. Second clip: The demoman should hit his 2 pipes instead of trying to kill the medic with rollers. 4th clip: I think you recorded the clips with normal width. Use half-width. 5th clip: The spy clips are now similar to the mad milk video. That's good, however, don't separate the spy clips. Record the clip in one shot. 6th clip: wait a bit before extinguishing yourself and the heavy. 7th clip: again, don't hide the hud. Final clip: It still shows the match hud bar. You can fix this by reloading the hud using hud_reloadscheme. · Ashe (talk) 22:30, 24 January 2024 (UTC)


Chargin' Targe Chargin' Targe, Tide Turner Tide Turner, and Splendid Screen Splendid Screen

Should these be redone to show that they remove debuffs such as Jarate, bleeding, afterburn, etc.? If so, which effects should I specifically show?
GrampaSwood (talk) 08:31, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

Pictogram tick.png Yes, the effects that should show are just some of them, not all
  • Soaking, Jarate is preferable as it make the screen yellow tint.
  • Fire, simple burn from Flamethrower.
  • Bleeding, from Southern Hospitality?
  • Mark for death, from Fan O'War
I think those are all. User Hinaomi Hinaomi-sig.png Rikka Takanashi (talk) • (contributions) 12:47, 25 June 2020 (UTC)
Yes, that would all be good. — Wind 05:44, 8 July 2020 (UTC)

Quick-Fix Quick-Fix

Old reservation (29 April 2021)

Pictogram comment.png What I've done in addition to the existing one (the timestamp in the parentheses are the old/new ones):

  1. (1:14/1:24) On the first scene demonstrating the Quick-Fix's basic functions, I did the same as the old one, plus damaging myself and the patient Heavy while being Ubered, demonstrating that the Quick-Fix's Uber doesn't reduce incoming damage. I also damaged myself (the Medic) twice instead of once.
  2. (2:09/2:39) When demonstrating the Quick-Fix's heal rate in comparison to the stock Medi Gun, while mostly the same, I used a recently-injured Heavy, so that the heal rate (for each medigun) is at the slowest. I used an offscreen pistol Engineer (hence why the starting HP is 14), teleport commands, and r_cleardecals, so it should look neat.
  3. (2:17/3:01) I demonstrated the knockback immunity from Quick-Fix's Uber the same way, but now there's health and Ubercharge HUD.
  4. (2:56/3:47) I did the "mirror blast jumping" part outdoors, although it might not look neat. I'm sorry.
  5. (3:26/4:17) I demonstrated crit healing (after the recipient doesn't take damage for 10-15 seconds) with the Quick-Fix's Uber in addition to the non-Uber Quick-Fix. Yes, the 3x healing rate Uber stacks with the crit heal.
  6. (3:53/6:56) I redid the "Uber build rate comparison on different HP threshold" because the old one didn't have the Quick-Fix as the second healing beam, hence it doesn't explain if the second healing beam alone would slow down the Quick-Fix's Uber build rate (the Quick-Fix has 125% maximum overheal, lower than the usual Uber build rate penalty at 142.5% overheal).
  7. (4:26/5:06) I demonstrated the Quick-Fix maximum overheal limit and decay rate on Scout vs. Heavy as well as comparing it to the stock Medi Gun's overheal in addition to the "maintain overheal above 125%" that the old video demonstrated. For the last part, I only used one Heavy, as the aforementioned added demonstrations make up for that, and I maintained the overheal above and below 142.5% overheal (Uber build rate comparison) as well as healing the Heavy when the overheal goes down below 125%.
  8. (4:46/8:32) For the "healing disguised Spy" part, I have two enemy bots (Heavy and Demoman) so that the Spy doesn't disguise as a Demoman named "Medic". Both bots are injured, so my disguise will be healed, too.

Pictogram comment.png The new ones (the timestamps refer to the new demonstration):

  1. (7:39) Demonstrating stock Medi Gun's Uber vs. Quick-Fix's Uber (the latter doesn't reduce incoming damage, but prevents incoming knockback unlike the former) and the fact that they have same duration (barring the stock's lingering effect). Also has Quick-Fix's Uber without incoming rockets to demonstrate that the duration is the same.
  2. (7:58) Ubering multiple teammates at the same time drain faster than Ubering a single teammate alone. Also, only the aforementioned Ubering multiple teammates drains Uber faster; Ubering an injured teammate drains at the same rate as Ubering a healthy teammate (fully overhealed) and not healing someone when Ubered.


I did the "Uber draining when dropped" part, but both mediguns show "Dropped by Exaskliri." Is it allowed? I gave the bot the Quick-Fix via bot_mirror command. https://youtu.be/0ZlwvHZrjdU Exaskliri (talk) 04:27, 30 April 2021 (UTC)
Nothing you can do about that, that's just how it shows. Shouldn't be too noticeable and there's no point in going through the trouble of setting up a server and getting a buddy to join only so it doesn't show. Though the confusion on where the quick-fix actually is should be redone so it doesn't look like you are looking for it.
GrampaSwood (talk) 10:37, 30 April 2021 (UTC)
  1. I just did the "mirroring the explosive jump" part, though I don't think it looks neat. Is it OK? https://youtu.be/NQo1iTxQSEA Exaskliri (talk) 03:31, 3 May 2021 (UTC)
  2. Just finished the whole demonstration. I just need to attach the segments. Exaskliri (talk) 15:15, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
  3. Just finished uploading re-uploading the new Quick-Fix demonstration video to YouTube and MediaFire.
  1. https://youtu.be/hj5FuFVFV2U
  2. https://www.mediafire.com/file/kx7kbaik5vwpwyj/Quick-Fix_Weapon_Demonstration_Video.mp4/file
Exaskliri (talk) 08:08, 6 May 2021 (UTC)
I don't see any problems, except for the the explosive jumps scenes, that looks a bit laggy, and in general the quality, that seems to be more like a rendering issue, though shouldn't be a problem · Ashe (talk) 04:40, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
I'm fixing the video right now (quieting projector sound, incorrect fade out time, etc.). Gotta reupload soon. Exaskliri (talk) 10:39, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
Just uploaded the fixed version of the Quick-Fix demonstration video. Exaskliri (talk) 13:01, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
This is spectacular work, thanks a lot! Just two comments, none of which should require a lot of work to fix hopefully:
  • Video quality also seems to have the same artifacts as the Winger demonstration. Please increase the bitrate. Unlike the Winger demonstration, I understand that a demonstration this long could take forever and use a lot of bandwidth to upload twice (to YouTube and to MediaFire), so if the video quality is approved for the Winger demonstration is good enough and you've used the same settings for re-rendering this demonstration, feel free to just upload the higher-quality Quick Fix demonstration to MediaFire only, in order to avoid having to upload the huge file twice.
  • There is an audio/video glitch at 9:56 - 9:57.

Wind 05:46, 10 May 2021 (UTC)

You finally responded! Thank you so much. The video/audio glitch is from the .dem recording, so I had to conduct another play, especially since it involves another player. Exaskliri (talk) 15:12, 10 May 2021 (UTC)
Alright. Can you upload the new version? — Wind 04:40, 1 June 2021 (UTC)

Blutsauger Blutsauger

Pictogram wait.png This demonstration has been reserved: Mediarch User Mediarch PFP.pngTalkMy Edits 10:42, 12 May 2024 (UTC)

Old discussion (2021)

Update on this. Video seems to require multiple people. Wasn't able to find anyone else to help me. If you want to help me record this please ping me. Naleksuh (talk) 19:53, 21 December 2021 (UTC)

Here's the Blutsauger demonstration ready for feedback. Shows the updated description and I also included a clip to show that you don't gain health from buildings. Mediarch User Mediarch PFP.pngTalkMy Edits 19:28, 13 May 2024 (UTC)

The demo also needs to show that the effect is pasive, so you have to include a clip where the medic receives damage with the blutsauger and the medigun/bonesaw deployed · Ashe (talk) 04:25, 27 May 2024 (UTC)
Here's version two with a clip showing the effect is passive Mediarch User Mediarch PFP.pngTalkMy Edits 01:58, 28 May 2024 (UTC)

Eyelander Eyelander, Nessie's Nine Iron Nessie's Nine Iron, Horseless Headless Horsemann's Headtaker Horseless Headless Horsemann's Headtaker, and Half-Zatoichi Half-Zatoichi

Pictogram comment.png Show slower deploy and holster comparision.

The other swords shows the comparision except for the above ones. ThunderRunner (talk) 08:54, 18 December 2021 (UTC)

Pictogram wait.png This demonstration has been reserved: ----User Slimyboi500 Logo.png User Slimyboi500 Profile.jpg Talk Speech voice.png Contribs Wrench IMG.png Steam Steam tray.png 04:32, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

I think I am capable of doing demonstrations again. As someone on the wiki that doesn't get credited for shit, I think these might upper my reputation.
----User Slimyboi500 Logo.png User Slimyboi500 Profile.jpg Talk Speech voice.png Contribs Wrench IMG.png Steam Steam tray.png 04:32, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

What edits/contributions have you made that you did not get credited for?
BLU Wiki Cap.png | s | GrampaSwood Praise the Sun! (talk) (contribs) 05:13, 19 April 2024 (UTC)
Oh, I dunno, this, this, and especially these.
----User Slimyboi500 Logo.png User Slimyboi500 Profile.jpg Talk Speech voice.png Contribs Wrench IMG.png Steam Steam tray.png 15:57, 19 April 2024 (UTC)
On all of these edits you are credited just fine. How did you expect to be credited?
BLU Wiki Cap.png | s | GrampaSwood Praise the Sun! (talk) (contribs) 16:00, 19 April 2024 (UTC)
Wikicheivments? I never got another one since November. Mediarch is getting all the fame and glory. I just don't wanna think I'm the odd one out.
----User Slimyboi500 Logo.png User Slimyboi500 Profile.jpg Talk Speech voice.png Contribs Wrench IMG.png Steam Steam tray.png 16:15, 19 April 2024 (UTC)
Slimy, you don't need Wikichievements on a wiki. The point of it is to inform, not be popular. Also, Mediarch has been constantly doing this sort of thing, pretty consistently too. Just look at the recent changes. Besides, your contributions don't warrant most of the stuff Medi has, n' you've already got a decent amount of Wikichieves. — payn. Beggar's Bazooka.png Talk Speech voice.png Contribs Market Gardener.png 00:02, 13 May 2024 (UTC)

Kritzkrieg Kritzkrieg

Pictogram comment.png Does not show that Kritz Über does not prevent capping or carrying the Intelligence.

Pictogram comment.png Does not show health of patients, overheal is not shown properly.

I think I'll take this one! Greenfox (talk) 20:51, 22 October 2022 (UTC)

Please sign your comments using ~~~~.
GrampaSwood (talk) 20:56, 22 October 2022 (UTC)

sorry! Greenfox (talk) 06:27, 23 October 2022 (UTC)

Trading demonstration

Pictogram comment.png Doesn't show the "Requires Steam Guard verification" window

We can make the same Medic and Heavy conversation joke.

Alright, it seems that Steam won't allow me to change the Trading window language for some reason, so i'm leaving this to a English-speaker user · Ashe (talk) 04:55, 27 February 2022 (UTC)
I don't think we should redo this just for this reason; there may be more UI changes to that process in the future, and it seems unnecessary. — Wind 00:33, 24 April 2022 (UTC)

Ullapool Caber Ullapool Caber

Pictogram wait.png This demonstration has been reserved: CheddarTalk 11:04, 20 April 2024 (UTC)

  • Pictogram comment.png Does not demonstrate activation on cloaked enemy Spies
  • Pictogram comment.png Does not demonstrate activation on disguised enemy Spies

This video does not need a desperate rework, but it is worth adding some extra stuff here and there. Specifically the cloak and disguise interactions.

Part 1: The Main Gang (Pyro, Soldier, Medic)

  1. Attack the Pyro with a full caber. Watch the explosion and Demoman saying "Kablooey!" or similar.
  2. After landing, kill the Pyro with the now empty caber.
  3. Kill the Soldier with consecutive hits of the empty caber.
  4. Kill the Medic with consecutive hits of the empty caber.
  5. Taunt

Part 2: Blast Radius Tests + Caber Jumping

Do the same as current video's Part 2 except friendly Scout is removed. And some more added too.

  1. Approach between an enemy Engineer and an enemy Sniper. [Note: Friendly Scout is moved to the next Act]
  2. Look at both of them while standing still.
  3. Look down at the ground and then swing the caber.
  4. Crouch, look down, and then swing the caber. Watch the explosion affect the enemy players.
  5. Look at the enemy players again.
  6. Run to the Resupply room, look at the sign, and enter the room.
  7. Touch the Resupply cabinet.
  8. Repeat Step 4.
  9. Run to the Resupply room and immediately go to the Resupply cabinet and out.
  10. Approach a high location (in the current video, it is a bunch of crates)
  11. Jump and strike the wall of the high location to get to the top of it.

Part 3: Player Interactions

First part is a single enemy Spy.

Part 3a: Cloaked Spy

  1. Let the Spy cloak
  2. Approach cloaked Spy and attack with the full caber. If the facts are right, an explosion should trigger.
  3. Refresh the screen to the next scene...

There are two players on the side, a friendly Scout and an enemy Spy.

Part 3b: Disguised Spy

  1. Let the Spy disguise as a friendly Scout.
  2. Approach friendly Scout and attack with the full caber. Nothing should happen.
  3. Now go to the disguised Spy and repeat Step 3. The difference is that the explosion should trigger.

Part 4: Deployment and Holstering

  • Do the same set of actions as the current video, or in any appropriate method.

Qwertyxp2000 (talk) 02:23, 22 June 2022 (UTC) Qwertyxp2000 (talk) 02:31, 22 June 2022 (UTC)

Good list, but agree that this isn't worth redoing if it's only for those extra interactions. — Wind 21:39, 31 July 2022 (UTC)
Here is the video, feedback needed!
CheddarTalk 11:03, 4 May 2024 (UTC)

RED Teleporter.png Teleporters

Pictogram comment.png Needs to show the updated metal cost.

Cleaner's Carbine Cleaner's Carbine

Pictogram wait.png This demonstration has been reserved: CheddarTalk 13:59, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

Pictogram comment.png Needs a firing speed comparison to stock, does not show CRIKEY! gain from damaging buildings and disguised Spies.
I may need a bit of time to obtain a Cleaner's Carbine for this video. This will be solved once Scrap.TF is working again. Scorchshotgaming (talk) 06:45, 19 April 2024 (UTC)
Here's the video, feedback needed!
CheddarTalk 17:51, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
What about the disguised spies? or did I miss it somewhere in the video? Mediarch User Mediarch PFP.pngTalkMy Edits 18:11, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
I forgot
CheddarTalk 18:12, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
Here is a newer version!
CheddarTalk 19:11, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
It doesn't show invisible spies also filling crikey · Ashe (talk) 16:31, 27 May 2024 (UTC)
Here is a newer version!
CheddarTalk 21:50, 29 May 2024 (UTC)

Maul Maul, Homewrecker Homewrecker

Pictogram comment.png Does not show damage against players vs stock

Pictogram wait.png This demonstration has been reserved: Mediarch User Mediarch PFP.pngTalkMy Edits 17:41, 26 March 2024 (UTC)

Here's the Maul Mediarch User Mediarch PFP.pngTalkMy Edits 00:19, 27 March 2024 (UTC)

Here's Maul v2 Mediarch User Mediarch PFP.pngTalkMy Edits 20:20, 8 April 2024 (UTC)

Here's the Homewrecker Mediarch User Mediarch PFP.pngTalkMy Edits 00:19, 27 March 2024 (UTC)

It seems like the combattext batching was still on, as the damage numbers get added up. You don't have to be named "Friendly Engineer" for the Dispenser clip, it can just be your own name.
In the Homewrecker one specifically: Try not to rotate around a target too much when hitting them (this is mostly when hitting the Pyro at the start, where all 3 subsequent hits are from a different angle). Both look good otherwise.
BLU Wiki Cap.png | s | GrampaSwood Praise the Sun! (talk) (contribs) 20:40, 7 April 2024 (UTC)
Here's Homewrecka v2 Mediarch User Mediarch PFP.pngTalkMy Edits 20:20, 8 April 2024 (UTC)
Both look good. Thanks · Ashe (talk) 16:36, 27 May 2024 (UTC)

Amputator Amputator

Pictogram comment.png Does not show damage against players vs stock

Pictogram wait.png This demonstration has been reserved: Mediarch User Mediarch PFP.pngTalkMy Edits 04:11, 31 May 2024 (UTC)

I recorded most of this but medic's health regen is completely random as far I can tell. I can't get the clips to line up so I can properly demonstrate the increased health regen so I'm removing my reservation for the time being. I might try again some other time to brute force it but it doesn't seem promising Mediarch User Mediarch PFP.pngTalkMy Edits 18:34, 28 March 2024 (UTC)

Not having them be synced up is fine as long as it's clear that the Amputator goes faster.
BLU Wiki Cap.png | s | GrampaSwood Praise the Sun! (talk) (contribs) 18:55, 28 March 2024 (UTC)
That's not the issue I'm having. It's the part where you're showing that it only regenerates faster while you are actively holding the amputator itself. The original video has a 3-way splitscreen with the left side being Amputator, the middle having the Amputator equipped but switched to hold the medi gun, and the right holding the stock bonesaw. I can't the medi gun side and bonesaw side to sync up so it looks like one of them is slightly faster than the other. One of the two is always slightly faster or slower which makes it really difficult to properly demonstrate that part. Even the actual health you gain each tick is slightly variable from what I can tell. I had 6 different clips and synched them all up and they all finished at different times and would have different health values despite all other variables being equal. All 6 clips started at the same time but all 6 of them have different HP https://imgur.com/3NVTjSG. My only thought for a fix is I could try to cheat and essentially just crop the health bar from one of the clips and paste it onto the other so that way they are perfectly synced up. It'd have to be a seamless edit though which is pretty hard to do. Mediarch User Mediarch PFP.pngTalkMy Edits 19:15, 28 March 2024 (UTC)

Direct Hit Direct Hit

Pictogram comment.png Does not show splash damage size compared to stock. No damage comparison to stock. You can airshot a soldier that rocket jumps.

Pomson 6000 Pomson 6000

Pictogram comment.png October 21, 2016 Patch - Fixed the Pomson 6000 playing the Shotgun reload sound.

Thermal Thruster Thermal Thruster

Pictogram comment.png Video doesn't show the increased knockback while using the item This video was created when the rule was just "at least 30 fps". Now, the knockback clips are a bit random and doesn't properly show the actual effect. Maybe the demonstrator can show it by placing a pyro aiming upwards and make it airblast them. The clips would be in badwater roof, the left clip without the thermal just falling off from it and the right clip, jumping with the thermal onto the pyro. · Ashe (talk) 17:18, 28 March 2024 (UTC)

Team Fortress Classic

TFC Crowbar.PNG Crowbar (Classic)

Pictogram comment.png Haven't been able to find a proper bot program. Will need another players in order to successfully demonstrate

Questions and Proposals

Note: This section is for questions and proposals that aren't specific to a single weapon. If you think a demo ought to be remade, then make an entry for it in the Need to be Redone section above and it will be dealt with.

Item icon Voodoo-Cursed Heavy Soul.png Zombie Infection Zombies

Pictogram comment.png Zombies have different abillities than normal players.

Hello, I am Slimyboi500. I will be doing the demostrations for each zombie in Zombie Infection.

Why, you may ask? Unlike normal gamemodes, the BLU team (or in this case, the zombies), have different abillities than normal:

They also have different effects, like different amounts of health and speed. The zombies only can use melee attacks however, which makes it harder to kill.

Let me know if it's a good idea or not.


Slimyboi500 (talk) User Slimyboi500 Profile.jpg 17:35, 27 October 2023 (UTC)

If we're doing this, I think there should be a demonstration made for each gamemode, rather than just Zombie Infection. Although ZI has gotten an introduction video now that shows off the mode pretty well, so I don't believe it is necessary.
BLU Wiki Cap.png | s | GrampaSwood Praise the Sun! (talk) (contribs) 17:53, 27 October 2023 (UTC)
The introduction is missing a few key details, such as not showing the Soldier or Heavy's abilities. I feel like it would be a good idea. Such as like there should be a demo for VSH.
----Slimyboi500 (talk) User Slimyboi500 Profile.jpg 18:12, 27 October 2023 (UTC)
It doesn't show each ability, but it does overall show the gamemode very well and I think does a sufficient job. Although, again, if we are making demonstrations for this, I think one should be made for each gamemode.
BLU Wiki Cap.png | s | GrampaSwood Praise the Sun! (talk) (contribs) 18:18, 27 October 2023 (UTC)
Yes, I think there should be one for each gamemode.
----Slimyboi500 (talk) User Slimyboi500 Profile.jpg 19:41, 27 October 2023 (UTC)
Remember to also indent your signature and to keep your answers above the hidden comment.
BLU Wiki Cap.png | s | GrampaSwood Praise the Sun! (talk) (contribs) 19:51, 27 October 2023 (UTC)
Still, is that a yes on the idea?
----Slimyboi500 (talk) User Slimyboi500 Profile.jpg 20:28, 27 October 2023 (UTC)

──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── I'm voting no, but other people might be in favour of it. Profiteer was, for example, so I'm waiting for more input.
BLU Wiki Cap.png | s | GrampaSwood Praise the Sun! (talk) (contribs) 20:35, 27 October 2023 (UTC)

I vote yes for the Zombie Infection zombies (as well Saxton Hale on VSH), but not for other gamemodes. I consider these zombies kinda like "new weapons". They all have different abilities, passives, first-person views, etc. I'm not quite sure if there needs to be a demonstration regarding the human part (only if demonstrated humans being infected by zombies upon dying), and perhaps the only thing related to humans would be that zombies drop small healthkits (because it's related to them, the zombies). A showcase of each zombie class, its ability, and some human interactions like being infected by them, and, killing them as humans, would probably be a nifty video package. Headphones style when? - User Gabrielwoj Signature 1.pngUser Gabrielwoj Signature 2.png - User Gabrielwoj Signature 3.png 22:34, 27 October 2023 (UTC)
I'm all in for ZI and VSH demos, but a significant issue would be future balance patches to the modes. Each balance patch so far has significantly changed the zombies, and if we had already made the demo, we would have to redo the video for each one of these updates, which would result in multiple uploads of the same video over and over again and a lot of work (and given how we can barely keep up with the current demos in the backlog...). Maybe instead of a gamemode demonstration, we could simply do a "zombie class demonstration" ("Zombie Sniper", etc.) and a "mechanics demonstration" (weapon modifications, gamemode-specific elements). This way, if a zombie is changed, we wouldn't have to redo the entire video. — Tark 22:51, 27 October 2023 (UTC)
I will do the demo as soon as I get enough votes for it
----Slimyboi500 (talk) User Slimyboi500 Profile.jpg 18:42, 15 November 2023 (UTC)
Voting yes for the demo, ZI and VSH seems stable...for now at leastProfiteer(奸商)the tryhard (talk) 11:05, 21 November 2023 (UTC)

Flippin' Awesome and Skullcracker in VSH

When Saxton Hale used Flippin' Awesome or Skullcracker, the other mercenary participating the taunt will be taunt killed, is this something worth remaking the taunt demonstration? Or we just keep the current taunt demonstration, but add this feature into the VSH demonstration? --AlexT 18:31, 22 July 2023 (UTC)

I think a VSH demonstration would be better, as it may be confusing why Saxton Hale is suddenly there when he's not normally playable.
BLU Wiki Cap.png | s | GrampaSwood (talk) 19:52, 22 July 2023 (UTC)
Yes, a demonstration regarding VSH, showing all Hale's abilities, and some unique taunt interactions, would be the most ideal (including his default taunt kill). That one would probably be more lengthy, and some things would probably require to be discussed beforehand. Like Mercs being able to wall climb (which is applied to even stock weaponry), should that be shown too? Headphones style when? - User Gabrielwoj Signature 1.pngUser Gabrielwoj Signature 2.png - User Gabrielwoj Signature 3.png 20:31, 22 July 2023 (UTC)
I think maybe a demonstration for every game mode could be in order, as a sort of semi-tutorial created by us. A VSH one would fit that too.
BLU Wiki Cap.png | s | GrampaSwood (talk) 08:33, 23 July 2023 (UTC)

Configs for partner taunt demonstrations

I've created some configs for partner taunt demonstrations. It automatically spawns 2 bots, places you in the starting position, and has another small command ("teleport") to input after it to teleport both the bots to the right position. It binds H and J to the bots performing taunts, H = BLU bot does taunt, J = RED bot does taunt. They're all class-specific and automatically kick any other bots there. There's no way (right now) that I know of to update the weaponref.zip, so if anyone needs it I can forward you a zip of the files. Just let me know on my talk page (or if you know of a way to update weaponref).
BLU Wiki Cap.png | s | GrampaSwood Praise the Sun! (talk) (contribs) 23:56, 13 November 2023 (UTC)

New tr_karma and requirements

I've been working in the past week in fixing some issues tr_karma has and some new guidelines. The changes to tr_karma are:

  • Increased lightmap quality in the interiors
  • Fixed a "checkerboard" texture in the gas cylinder, the ceiling fan and the cardboard boxes
  • Added chat scripts to enable noclip (!n in the chat), regenerate (!r), spawn an ammo pack (!am) and enable demonstration server settings (!demo) (these commands are available also in the new tr_karma_basic.cfg)
  • Fixed the func_buttons in the wood targets only working once, thus displaying the hit particle once
  • Removed Tough Break cases and the Gargoyle prop as they didn't fit the ambience
  • Removed the mining cart prop in the rails due of a lighting issue
  • Repacked the map, reducing the map size from ~91 MB to ~18 MB

The link to the download and new proposed guidelines are here. Check them out and give feedback · Ashe (talk) 16:38, 13 December 2023 (UTC)

Issues with tr_krama and tr_krama_event

When I start a local server and load tr_krama/tr_krama_event, it won't load (probably because it doesn't exsit) lights/shadow making the map super bright, this only happens on 2 krama maps, I tried to download a modified version of tr_krama on workshop and it worked perfectly, pretty sure something is missing in the map file from weaponref.zip.Profiteer the tryhard (talk|contribute) 05:59, 10 March 2024 (UTC)

It works fine on my end.
BLU Wiki Cap.png | s | GrampaSwood Praise the Sun! (talk) (contribs) 10:11, 10 March 2024 (UTC)
Join the IRC to help you @Profiteer · Ashe (talk) 21:33, 16 March 2024 (UTC)
@Profiteer do you have HDR enabled? · Ashe (talk) 16:50, 23 March 2024 (UTC)

Question about 2D and 3D player models

A question I've had for a while about weapon demonstrations is, is there a specific reason that 2D player images in the HUD are standard rather than the 3D player model (be it for performance, consistency, or any other reason), also considering that 3D player models are enabled by default? The 3D model could also generally be more useful for certain cosmetics or demonstrations. Scorchshotgaming (talk) 16:47, 8 April 2024 (UTC)

they're buggy, eat up frame rate on a lot of systems, and aren't really necessary. I don't think they really add anything of value to the videos so my vote would be to keep them disabled. Mediarch User Mediarch PFP.pngTalkMy Edits 16:50, 8 April 2024 (UTC)
As far as I know, there's no real reason that we prefer one over the other. 3D models are enabled by default, but it may have just been something that was done for a while and became the standard.
BLU Wiki Cap.png | s | GrampaSwood Praise the Sun! (talk) (contribs) 16:57, 8 April 2024 (UTC)
Fair point, it would obviously be a massive hassle to redo every demonstration with a 2D player model. Also for some people I suppose keeping them off improves framerate. Scorchshotgaming (talk) 19:59, 8 April 2024 (UTC)
I'm pretty sure it's because when they were added to the game, it caused lag to a lot of people. The recent 64 bits update fixed the 3d character using a lot of cpu and now it shouldn't affect fps (although i guess modern pcs didn't have issue with it anyways) · Ashe (talk) 15:21, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

Mastercomfig question

I am planning to make a demonstration, and the recommended requirements state that Mastercomfig High/Ultra is preferrable. However, I highly doubt my PC is able to run Mastercomfig High/Ultra properly and all the other high graphics settings. Is it acceptable if I use Mastercomfig Medium High and use average graphics settings? May look slightly lower quality than a typical reservation, but I don't think much will be affected. Scorchshotgaming (talk) 21:44, 18 April 2024 (UTC)

Ultra is preferable, but setting your game to all max settings should suffice.
BLU Wiki Cap.png | s | GrampaSwood Praise the Sun! (talk) (contribs) 21:45, 18 April 2024 (UTC)
Well, I'll look through some configurations, and if I find one that looks high enough quality without sacrificing my computer's performance I will use it (my PC is not too high spec, to say the least). My demonstration is for the Cleaner's Carbine; once you review it tell me your thoughts. For me this is especially important because I will need to screen record this too. Scorchshotgaming (talk) 21:48, 18 April 2024 (UTC)