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(I mean, if nothing else, it ''is'' able to kill players.) [[User:Dogman15|Dogman15]] ([[User talk:Dogman15|talk]]) 02:26, 24 December 2014 (PST)
 
  
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Hi, just made a vid demonstration about Chemistry kit. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R2uEkaw6Jbs&feature=youtu.be
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What should i do next? ~ Fokus 03.06.2020 16:50 GMT+2
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:Hi there,
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: You now have to wait for [[User:WindPower|WindPower]] to respond. He usually does this every week on Sundays, though he's very busy nowadays.
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: My advice on your video is: Don't start in the Main Menu, start in the backpack (first page) instead. Make sure your backpack's page is also clear of other stuff, so when you finished using the chemistry set it doesnt go to the third page and you'll have to drag it from there. Show yourself using the Chemistry Set, too, it's part of its functionality. Your video also seems to have a delay between sound and the video.
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: It also lacks editing.<br>[[User:GrampaSwood|GrampaSwood]] ([[User talk:GrampaSwood|talk]]) 15:05, 3 June 2020 (UTC)
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:::> he's very busy nowadays
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:::You give me too much credit. — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 05:44, 8 July 2020 (UTC)
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::Hi, thanks for tips. I fixed the video, now it should be much better. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-fgON6QQ6Mk&feature=youtu.be <br />
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::[[User:Fokuskii|Fokuskii]] ([[User talk:Fokuskii|talk]]) 23:53, 3 June 2020 (UTC)
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:::The same problem applies with the backpack. It should start on the first page (that's empty except for the required items). The section where you hover over the chemistry set is too long, perhaps make it 1 or 2 seconds. The same thing applies to the end, show the strangifier being applied. It also lacks fading (A lot of these things can be fixed with simple editing, but I think the pages thing will have to be done with a new one :\)<br>[[User:GrampaSwood|GrampaSwood]] ([[User talk:GrampaSwood|talk]]) 13:10, 4 June 2020 (UTC)
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:::The video should also be 1080p (your first version was 1080p but the second version is 720p). Agreed with all other comments — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 05:44, 8 July 2020 (UTC)
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I have both an alt and a professor speks chemistry set for this demonstration, I just have yet to find the password to the account...<br>[[File:BLU Wiki Cap.png|20px|link=List of Wiki Cap owners]] | [[Help:Group rights|<span style="color:green;font-family:TF2 Build;">s</span>]] | [[User:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">GrampaSwood</font>]] [[File:PraisetheSun.png|20px|alt=Praise the Sun!]] ([[User talk:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) ([[Special:Contributions/GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">contribs</font>]]) 21:36, 12 November 2023 (UTC)
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Hey, was wondering if this was still open? I can do a possible version with a collector chemistry kit but not sure if it matters if it's strangifier or collector's. [[User:God&#39;sWrath|God&#39;sWrath]] ([[User talk:God&#39;sWrath|talk]]) 01:15, 16 February 2024 (UTC)
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:It's still open, although a collector's kit may be too large as it would require showing all 100 items added.<br>[[File:BLU Wiki Cap.png|20px|link=List of Wiki Cap owners]] {{!}} [[Help:Group rights|<span style="color:green;font-family:TF2 Build;">s</span>]] {{!}} [[User:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">GrampaSwood</font>]] [[File:PraisetheSun.png|20px|alt=Praise the Sun!]] ([[User talk:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) ([[Special:Contributions/GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">contribs</font>]]) 11:13, 16 February 2024 (UTC)
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::Ah, alright so what if I show a strangifier first and add a section for the collector's where I only put 1 in but I put disclaimer stating it's x amount of x items and not 1 item for a collector's kit? So video doesn't drag out. [[User:God&#39;sWrath|God&#39;sWrath]] ([[User talk:God&#39;sWrath|talk]]) 03:41, 17 February 2024 (UTC)
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:::Just pick a simpler, cheaper chemistry set like in the first video · [[User:Ashe|<font color="DB9C1F">Ashe</font>]] ([[User talk:Ashe|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) 05:15, 17 February 2024 (UTC)
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I've reserved this but I've been thinking it over and I'm not sure if it's really necessary. The [[Strangifier]] demonstration shows the exact same process of completing a chemistry set to acquire a strangifier and then applying it to the item. Both demonstrations would bassically be the same. Do we really need two demonstrations showing the exact same thing? Or what should this demonstration do to be different from the Strangifier demonstration? [[User:Mediarch|<font color="ec5c69">'''Mediarch'''</font>]] [[File:User Mediarch PFP.png|25px]][[User:Mediarch|<font color="#ff66cc"> ♥ </font>]][[User talk:Mediarch|<font color="ec5c69">'''Talk'''</font>]][[User:Mediarch|<font color="#ff66cc"> ♥ </font>]][[Special:Contributions/Mediarch|<font color="ec5c69">'''My Edits'''</font>]] 22:01, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
  
I have a question, for the Pyro airblast part how will I do that? -[[User:WDZOrangeJuice|WDZOrangeJuice]] ([[User talk:WDZOrangeJuice|talk]]) 22:36, 22 December 2014 (PST)
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== {{Demo Header|Upgrade to Premium Gift}} ==
: The way I do it is position the Pyro at a appropriate distance that will have the projectile hurt you, but not the Pyro. Then type the command "bot_forceattack2 1" in the console. Now when you press whichever button you have bot_fire binded to, it will instead use their alt fire. (Meaning the Pyro will Airblast.) You then just gotta shoot the pyro, and time it well to have him reflect the projectile. Every current demonstration that contains a projectile should display a good example of the airblast clip, if you need some reference footage. Good luck <span style="font-family:aharoni; font-size:110%; font-style:;font-weight:bold;">[[File:User_Obilisk_Demo1.png]] [[User:Obilisk|<span style="text-decoration:">Obilisk</span>]]</span> 23:21, 22 December 2014 (PST)
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:I'm not quite sure if this one is necessary [[File:Charger 2.png|20px|]] [[User:Karmacharger|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Karmacharger</span>]] 9:12 PM 8/24/2014 (PDT)
Very sorry with this really late question, so I am almost done with the whole video but I was wondering if I should use SrcDemo2 because the video recorder that I used before makes the video saturation lower. When I tried to use SrcDemo, it wasn't working/I don't really know how to use it. Another reason why I am trying to use SrcDemo is because I thought I needed to supply a .dem file. -[[User:WDZOrangeJuice|WDZOrangeJuice]] ([[User talk:WDZOrangeJuice|talk]]) 18:27, 15 January 2015 (PST)
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::Nah, probably not unless someone just happens to run upon that item — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 19:59, 27 October 2014 (PDT)
  
: Srcdemo2 does provide a much better result of a render, as it's capable of renderijng each frame separately at the highest possible settings. I'd highly recommend using it for the best possible quality of footage. If you set your saturation higher then render with Srcdemo2, I'm pretty sure it should fix it. There's a small tutorial written of how to use it on the original forum [http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?p=25171193 here.] I don't believe .dem files are compulsory, but it is great having them. <span style="font-family:aharoni; font-size:110%; font-style:;font-weight:bold;">[[File:User_Obilisk_Demo1.png]] [[User:Obilisk|<span style="text-decoration:">Obilisk</span>]]</span> 19:35, 15 January 2015 (PST)
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Question: Do I need to show I, person giving the premium gift, receive the professor speks?<br>[[User:GrampaSwood|GrampaSwood]] ([[User talk:GrampaSwood|talk]]) 11:04, 6 September 2019 (UTC)
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:Yes, that's part of the item's effects. — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 23:39, 8 September 2019 (UTC)
  
::I have followed the instructions but it seems that it doesn't want to work. How do I play the recording and does it supply a .dem file? -[[User:WDZOrangeJuice|WDZOrangeJuice]] ([[User talk:WDZOrangeJuice|talk]]) 20:13, 15 January 2015 (PST)
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I have brought the premium gift to another account, the only issue is that the professor speks is already on my TF2 account, so I would need a third account to receive the speks (while already having premium). It may take a while longer but if anyone else wants to give a crack at it.<br>[[File:BLU Wiki Cap.png|20px|link=List of Wiki Cap owners]] | [[Help:Group rights|<span style="color:green;font-family:TF2 Build;">s</span>]] | [[User:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">GrampaSwood</font>]] [[File:PraisetheSun.png|20px|alt=Praise the Sun!]] ([[User talk:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) ([[Special:Contributions/GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">contribs</font>]]) 21:36, 12 November 2023 (UTC)
:::[https://steamcommunity.com/id/Obilisk Add me on Steam,] I can lend you a hand. <span style="font-family:aharoni; font-size:110%; font-style:;font-weight:bold;">[[File:User_Obilisk_Demo1.png]] [[User:Obilisk|<span style="text-decoration:">Obilisk</span>]]</span> 21:55, 15 January 2015 (PST)
 
  
:.dem's are not optional, whether or not you use them for rendering. No problems making exceptions if it's one of your first few demonstration videos though — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 19:26, 18 January 2015 (PST)
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This is taking too long for me to do, it's better for me to practice rather than do one officially. -[[User:WDZOrangeJuice|WDZOrangeJuice]] ([[User talk:WDZOrangeJuice|talk]]) 19:53, 27 January 2015 (PST)
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Hi. I know this item is quite expensive for someone to make a demonstration, but I was thinking, a video showcasing how the item works (which the purchaser's choose they person), and then, on the same video, showing the chosen player's screen perspective, showing the option to accept the proposal, and after that, showing the notification on the Main Menu for the accepted proposal.
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<br>Considering the high cost that would be making this demonstration, I wonder if Valve could gives us a hand and supply one for our demonstrations purposes, as long we delete both rings after doing the full video.
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<br>It seems that the process is mostly the same as the [[Gift Wrap]], but I have no idea how are the things when someone receives that Gift. We also lack a proper Gift Wrap video, apparently. [[File:Gabrielwoj Signature Icon.png|15px|link=User:Gabrielwoj]] - [[File:Gabrielwoj Signature 1.png|link=User:Gabrielwoj]] ▪ [[File:Gabrielwoj Signature 2.png|link=Special:Contribs/Gabrielwoj]] - [[File:Gabrielwoj Signature 3.png|link=User talk:Gabrielwoj]] 19:26, 16 July 2019 (UTC)
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: Keep dreaming, valve won't even fix server issues much less give us free items. If you are planning to make a demonstration though, better ask windpower for some super detailed instructions to make sure it's right the first time. [[User:Naleksuh|Naleksuh]] ([[User talk:Naleksuh|talk]]) 21:37, 18 July 2019 (UTC)
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::Well, they have the ability to both give and delete items, it could work? Yes. Will it happen? We don't know. If there's anything we can do, is ask for someone who plans on buying one legitimately and asking them for help. Last time that the item got in 50% off, a lot of people bought one, so. [[File:Gabrielwoj Signature Icon.png|15px|link=User:Gabrielwoj]] - [[File:Gabrielwoj Signature 1.png|link=User:Gabrielwoj]] ▪ [[File:Gabrielwoj Signature 2.png|link=Special:Contribs/Gabrielwoj]] - [[File:Gabrielwoj Signature 3.png|link=User talk:Gabrielwoj]] 20:01, 19 July 2019 (UTC)
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:::If you give it some time, I could save up to get it and try to make it. <br>[[User:GrampaSwood|GrampaSwood]] ([[User talk:GrampaSwood|talk]]) 20:16, 19 July 2019 (UTC)
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:I offer to give a 50 USD Steam gift card to anyone who has already gotten an item demonstration video approved and uploaded in order to make this demonstration, and then another 50 USD Steam gift card upon video approval. I'm not sure what the price of the item is in other currencies but I'll also match that if possible as long as it's not too much more expensive. Please make sure to record both sides (sender account and receiver account). — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 23:00, 21 July 2019 (UTC)
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::Well, I guess we should start discussing how should it be done. Firstly, I think the Gifter should be named "Scout" and the Recipient be "Miss Pauling". Scout has the [https://steamcdn-a.akamaihd.net/steamcommunity/public/images/avatars/c7/c718b0c234a3f5ff5fc8f0b99c3f64f0de4ccefe_full.jpg Scout avatar] (184x184 version from Steam), while Miss Pauling can use [https://i.imgur.com/bBLbzuP.png this]. I think the name could be something along what Scout would say, my suggestion, name it as "You are really frickin' sweet". That'd go nice, eh?
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::Secondly, I don't know who's going to be the Recipient. Should we create a Steam account just for that, or should we rely with another Video Demonstration Creator to do a collab? [[File:Gabrielwoj Signature Icon.png|15px|link=User:Gabrielwoj]] - [[File:Gabrielwoj Signature 1.png|link=User:Gabrielwoj]] ▪ [[File:Gabrielwoj Signature 2.png|link=Special:Contribs/Gabrielwoj]] - [[File:Gabrielwoj Signature 3.png|link=User talk:Gabrielwoj]] 23:55, 21 July 2019 (UTC)
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::<br> well how about we can hit two birds with one store and do the ring and the Upgrade to Premium Gift from the same two account?, First the two account would demostrate the Upgrade to Premium Gift which the sender should buy it from the store and send to the receiver who don't have premium. them Recycle the same account to do the ring. We could make a story out of it as well from friendship when a user gifted the premium to the other use then after few days they both got engaged via the sender would give the ring. It won't end up a awkward situation. but for this situation we need 4 people to do the ring tho 2 sender reciever, 2 regular tf2 player to recieved the message one in the tf2 main menu and the other while in-game[[User:Jomarcenter|Jomarcenter]] ([[User talk:Jomarcenter|talk]]) 14:27, 28 August 2019 (UTC)
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::::That's a cute story, but let's keep the demonstration to just one item (the ring), not the Upgrade to Premium Gift on top of it. — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 22:17, 1 September 2019 (UTC)
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:::: I don't know what you're talking about, wind. Story time is clearly more important than the actual video. (but in all seriousness the two '''accounts''' would be okay to reuse right?) [[User:Naleksuh|Naleksuh]] ([[User talk:Naleksuh|talk]]) 04:52, 4 September 2019 (UTC)
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:::::Yeah, sure, it would just be two separate videos — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 23:39, 8 September 2019 (UTC)
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:::<br> I kind of thought the role playing names were unnnecessary to begin with, and could also cause confusion as to whether or not those texts always appear in game. But if WP or thed feels that's the best way to do it without commercializing it then oh well for me.
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::: The two steam accounts would be kinda hard to sync up (and would also be a waste of $100), i'm willing to be proposed to if no one else will :) [[User:Naleksuh|Naleksuh]] ([[User talk:Naleksuh|talk]]) 01:06, 25 July 2019 (UTC)
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::::No need for roleplaying. It's cool if you want to do it but totally optional. — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 06:26, 29 July 2019 (UTC)
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=={{icon item|Quickiebomb Launcher|16px}} [[Quickiebomb Launcher]]==
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== [[File:Mannpower Powerup King.png|16px|link=Mannpower]] [[Mannpower]] powerups ==
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::i can't do the video because there's too many bugs in this weapon. it doesn't destroy enemy stickys and stickybombs fizzle only 1 second rather than 2 and it uses the stock sticky's killicon [[File:Charger 2.png|20px|]] [[User:Karmacharger|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Karmacharger</span>]] 4:21 PM 1/7/2015 (PDT)
 
::: Lucky for you, it appears the [https://wiki.teamfortress.com/wiki/January_7,_2015_Patch latest update] has fixed it, not sure about the kill icon though. <span style="font-family:aharoni; font-size:110%; font-style:;font-weight:bold;">[[File:User_Obilisk_Demo1.png]] [[User:Obilisk|<span style="text-decoration:">Obilisk</span>]]</span> 21:52, 7 January 2015 (PST)
 
::::Thanks for telling but it still use the stock stickybomb launcher's killicon, i'm going to wait until they fix everything up [[File:Charger 2.png|20px|]] [[User:Karmacharger|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Karmacharger</span>]] 8:29 PM 1/8/2015 (PDT)
 
::::: Recent update, has once again updated this weapon. The icon should be updated now. <span style="font-family:aharoni; font-size:110%; font-style:;font-weight:bold;">[[File:User_Obilisk_Demo1.png]] [[User:Obilisk|<span style="text-decoration:">Obilisk</span>]]</span> 19:05, 13 January 2015 (PST)
 
::::::http://youtu.be/Y4wI026Ietk [[File:Charger 2.png|20px|]] [[User:Karmacharger|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Karmacharger</span>]] 8:47 PM 1/16/2015 (PDT)
 
:::::::A few things:
 
* Demonstration goes pretty fast. Take more time waiting, especially at the beginning of the clips
 
* The time-to-detonation time clip only shows 1 stickybomb. To demonstrate the effect better, try to shoot a stickybomb, explode it as soon as possible, then immediately fire another one, explode it as soon as possible, etc. This way the time difference between the two weapons will become more obvious.
 
* Enemy-stickybomb-blow-up clip doesn't give a good sense of range. Have the enemy demoman lay stickybombs in a row at equal distance from one another to make it clear.
 
* You can also show the fizzle-in-two-seconds versus the stickybomb limit. Similar to how the stickybomb launcher clip shows that dropping 9 stickybombs causes the oldest one to fizzle, show that you can only drop a limited number of stickybombs before the oldest one fizzles.
 
* Please add the usual stickybomb-launcher-like clips (enemies can shoot at the stickies to destroy them, pyros can airblast them away after they're dropped)
 
* Try jumping with 2 stickybombs
 
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Hello everyone, this is my first demonstration video, so if I did anything wrong please tell me, thanks :D. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=APgoYD5jESw&feature=youtu.be  [[User:Russiantux|Russiantux]] ([[User talk:Russiantux|talk]]) 20:55, 29 December 2014 (PST)
 
:In general, take your time. Rapid motion tends to disorientate and confuse people.
 
:In specific, be careful when loading shots not to release so quickly. It's often unclear how many shots you loaded since the counter doesn't update in time.
 
:For the taunt at the end, pick a camera angle and hold it.
 
:This weapon is multi-class, right? You should show all the different classes using it.
 
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::Health would ideally be shown as a splitscreen. Pausing for around 2-3 seconds before starting should allow the viewer to notice the differing health between the clips. I'd also suggest doing simply 200 and 1 HP, or 200, 100, and 1 HP.
 
::There's no need to taunt after the splitscreen comparison, just fade to black.
 
::The splitscreen would probably be better demonstrated on a mid/far-range target, to indicate the change in spread.
 
:That's all I see. [[User:Darkid|<span style="color:red">Darkid</span>]] ([[User talk:Darkid|<span style="color:blue">Talk</span>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Darkid|<span style="color:grey">Contribs</span>]]) 08:07, 30 December 2014 (PST)
 
  
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Hello, I had a question about preforming/recording this demonstration. Mannpower has a domination mechanic (Not to be confused with [[Domination|dominations]]), this mechanic works by when a player has many more kills than other players on the enemy team, and so that player gets nerfs on their power ups. I'm guessing I would have to demonstrate this in the video, however I do not know how to activate it. I have not been able to activate this on myself in tr_karma, however even if I did, the player who is dominating does not get the message on their screen showing that they are dominating. The only effects the player who is dominating sees is they are marked for death if they have a power up, and a nerf on that power up for that player. I don't know how I would go about demonstrating the effects of domination mechanic, considering the viewer wouldn't know that being marked for death with a power up means you are dominating. If I were to get the domination mechanic to work, should I just show the class as marked for death, or something else? [[User:Andrew360|<span style="font-family:TF2 Build; color:#038d3a ">Andrew360</span>]] [[File:Edit_icon.png|20px|link=Special:Contributions/Andrew360]] [[File:Taunt Rancho Relaxo.png|25px|link=User_talk:Andrew360]] 01:51, 12 July 2022 (UTC)
* The relative audio volume is off: the in-game volume is too low compared to the music volume. Listen to your video and then listen to one of the published video demonstrations to see the difference, and adjust the volumes accordingly.
 
* After the taunt, the soldier equipped the rocket launcher. Don't switch weapons during the taunt.
 
* See my review of Sydcul's video below for the comparison setup. No text needed. (Also, "25% health" is technically wrong; the video is actually showing 12.5% health (25 HP out of 200 HP))
 
* Go slower/wait longer in transitions, like darkid said.
 
[[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 21:09, 10 January 2015 (PST)
 
  
How about mine? http://youtu.be/t5h288baLR4. It contains everything needed I guess. [[User:Sydcul|Sydcul]] ([[User talk:Sydcul|talk]]) 04:03, 1 January 2015 (PST)
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:This does sound hard to demonstrate. If you enable third-person mode, do you see the skull icon above the player's head in the 3D world (not on the HUD)? If so, here's a structure that might work:
: Hi Sydcul, nice attempt at this demonstration. This weapon is a bit of a tough demonstration, here are a few things that I think you need to fix up:
 
  
::* In the first loadout screen you should have the Soldier wielding the Panic Attack instead of the Rocket launcher.
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* Spawn enough enemies on the map such that you can reach domination status, and still have enough enemies left over to show that the effect isn't about killing *all* other enemies.
::* In the loadout screen the rocket launcher weapon slot is hovered over, as if you had your cursor over it.
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* Start the demonstration in first-person mode.
::* Not sure if it's just Youtube, but the first clip seems to be a bit laggy.
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* Switch to third-person mode.
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* Kill enough enemies such that domination status appears.
::* After taunting, please allow more time before the transition - also, I believe you should set the transition speed to 0.15, as the actual transition is very quick.
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* Highlight the correlation between the third-person skull icon and the HUD one, for example by zooming in on both at once, or drawing a red box around both or something.
::* You should have a loadout screen for each of the classes. (You only showed the Loadout for the Soldier.)
 
::* After the first clip I think you should show the comparison stats for the weapon (You have all the comparisons at the end)
 
::* At 0:59 the Soldier drops a gift - probably due to the fact you did this demonstration during the Christmas Event. If you re do it now, the gift shouldn't appear, otherwise try typing tf_forced_holiday 0 into your console. (This should disable any event on your server such as Christmas, Halloween and TF's Birthday.)
 
::* At 1:18 you appear to not make it over the barrier with your first jump. Try to only jump once and make it over the barrier.
 
::* At 1:20, while you're walking towards the Spy your mouse movement seems quite jittery. Try keep a consistent smooth mouse movement.
 
::* After the Engineer clip you don't need to have title cards before the clips, I don't believe you need any of the text you have placed in the clips also. If you were to use text you should always use the TF2 Font to keep a consistant look and tf2 'style' across the demonstrations. If you don't have it installed you can [http://www.dafont.com/tf2-secondary.font download it here] and [http://www.dafont.com/tf2-build.font here.]
 
::* During all your comparisons you should try use a split screen. What I would do is have a split screen with the soldier looking at a enemy. Have each of the split screens at different health, maybe one being at full, one at half and one at a quarter? Then have them all reload a full magazine and fire simultaneously. I'd highly recommend using the Escape plan demonstration as a reference as the clip at 0:54 is very similar with the speed comparisons.  [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9aws-Xu1vHY#t=63 The demonstration can be found here.] Although the clip would need tweaking to fit with the Panic Attack.
 
::* For the spread comparison I believe the current Back Scatter demonstration had a good way of showing this, although you will probably need more than just a 2 way split screen, depending on how you did the shooting comparison you may need more splitscreens at once. Another good way of doing this would be to just combine the shooting speed and accuracy comparison in one clip. (Demonstrate them both in one 6 way splitscreen perhaps.)
 
::* You will also need to show a reloading comparison of the Panic Attack and the stock Shotgun, as the Panic Attack has 34% faster reload speed. I'd suggest having a 2 way splitscreen with the shotgun chambered with 2 rounds, then have them both simultaneously reload then shoot 4 rounds each.
 
::* I'd perhaps suggest kind of following the current [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TlLDkhjk-5o Begger's Bazooka demonstration] primarily the first clip, as both weapons are rather similar in the sense that they both must be reloaded to shoot. During many of your clips you miss the target a lot as you reload too many shots. I'd maybe suggest shooting once, then twice and so on to refrain missing too many times. (Similar to the Beggar's Bazooka)
 
::* As I said before also, these comparisons should be after the first soldier clip.
 
::* At the end of the demonstration you should wait a bit, then play the audio of the tape reel ending. I'd also recommend having a fade to black. (And to make it look nicer have a fade from black at the start!)
 
  
:This is everything I've spotted. I highly suggest waiting for Wind's response, as even I don't know how some clips should be done especially the splitscreens, as a 6 way splitscreen may be disorientating for the viewer. He also may agree or disagree with some of the things I have spotted. What you've done is a solid attempt at your first go though dude, as this demonstration I'd say is a very tricky one to do. Good luck. <span style="font-family:aharoni; font-size:110%; font-style:;font-weight:bold;">[[File:User_Obilisk_Demo1.png]] [[User:Obilisk|<span style="text-decoration:">Obilisk</span>]]</span> 16:50, 2 January 2015 (PST)
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Now you've established that "skull on HUD" = "having killed enough enemies".
:All of what Obilisk  is sound advice. Also:
 
* The video freezes for a split-second near 0:48
 
* The video has inconsistent quality. For example look at [http://upload.gaiatools.com/files/vlcsnap-2015-01-10-20h51m56s12_0.png the video quality right after you rotate the camera when the Heavy begins taunting] (this was taken from the youtube 1080p version)
 
* You should show what happens if you try to switch to another weapon while the shotgun is trying to continuously fire
 
* Like Obilisk said, no need for any text (both as video transitions and the "Full health"/"Minimum health"). Remember that these videos get embedded in all versions of the wiki including non-english ones, so text is kept to a minimum.
 
* Comparisons should be sufficient as 2-way or 3-way splitscreen, showing full health/(half health if 3-way)/1 HP. Demonstrating it on the Soldier should be enough, but as Obilisk said it should be included along with the other soldier clip rather than at the end. Make sure to use the split-screen HUDs so that the health bar is visible in the video. Only one demonstration clip should be enough to demonstrate both spread and speed difference as long as you're firing the Medic in the distance.
 
* The tape reel ending that Obilisk mentioned is nice but optional.
 
— [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 21:09, 10 January 2015 (PST)
 
  
=={{icon item|Necro Smasher|16px}} [[Necro Smasher]]==
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Now, demonstrate each powerup one by one. For each powerup, do a split-screen, with the left being non-dominating, and the right being already-in-dominating status. Pick up the powerup on both clips and demonstrate the effect. The skull icon being visible on the clip on the right should be enough of a hint that this is the cause. If not obvious enough, you can draw attention to it at the beginning of the clip, such as by drawing a red box over it or something.
  
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Hope this helps. I suggest doing a test demo with just one or two powerups demonstrated and posting it here first before doing all the work it would take to get this all done for all powerups, as there are a lot. (Perhaps each powerup should have its own video? That's a separate question...)
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ISFPcOEsME0 How's This?] This is my first video demonstration! Tell me if something is wrong in this video. [[User:SkullCake|SkullCake]] ([[User talk:SkullCake|talk]]) 11:35, 3 November 2014 (PST)
 
  
Hey there SkullCake, pretty solid attempt at your first demonstration, however there are a few things you may want to fix up.
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— [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 21:39, 31 July 2022 (UTC)
  
* During the scout clip, you missed the Medic with your second crit swing.
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:I might try my hand at this, but only after I finish my other demonstrations and receive feedback and corrections for them. [[User:Po1yb1ank|Po1yb1ank]] ([[User talk:Po1yb1ank|talk]]) 23:56, 14 December 2023 (UTC)
* During the Scout clip you also switched to your primary after taunting. This bug happened after the Love and War update. To fix this I believe you just taunt once with your melee before recording and it should be fine.
 
* During most of your clips there is blood, explosion marks and bullet holes present. I suggest either reloading the map before recording or typing "r_cleardecals" This will clean up this mess.
 
* Not sure if it's just me, but the music seems to loop kinda badly. (I have had problems with the music doing this too!) An example of this is at 0:59.
 
* When you kill the medic in the soldier clip try to look at his body. (You're standing on top of him.)
 
* After most of your taunts it's obvious that you cut the video and pasted new footage of your character standing there idle. Is this because they kept switching to the primary weapon? Since I said above how to fix this you shouldn't have a problem with this now. :)
 
* Not sure if it's just me also, but do you have your brightness turned up? The video looks a bit saturated.
 
  
These are things that I spotted, you will want to wait for Wind's response. Don't be put off dude, as this is your first demonstration. Also, just a minor note, when a new weapon is added it's a good idea to wait a week before demonstrating it. (It's been 5 days!) Although this seems like a minor rule, it's still there for a reason! :D <span style="font-family:aharoni; font-size:110%; font-style:;font-weight:bold;">[[File:User_Obilisk_Demo1.png]] [[User:Obilisk|<span style="text-decoration:">Obilisk</span>]]</span> 04:00, 4 November 2014 (PST)
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== {{Demo Header|Secret Saxton}} ==
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I don't think it's very needed, but since it seems very simple, I can do it · [[User:Ashe|<font color="DB9C1F">Ashe</font>]] ([[User talk:Ashe|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) 05:13, 16 December 2023 (UTC)
  
I cut the video because when I tried to taunt the character was making that halloween dance and it seemed to me the music loop is badly. I'll try to fix that! [[User:SkullCake|SkullCake]] ([[User talk:SkullCake|talk]]) 04:33, 4 November 2014 (PST)
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:Won't you need another person since they are only delivered to players while playing on a server? [[User:Cheddar|Cheddar]] ([[User talk:Cheddar|talk]]) 08:18, 16 December 2023 (UTC)
  
: Oh right, they would have been doing the Thriller taunt. try putting "tf_forced_holiday 0" into your console, it may work. Otherwise you may have to wait for the halloween event to end in a week. <span style="font-family:aharoni; font-size:110%; font-style:;font-weight:bold;">[[File:User_Obilisk_Demo1.png]] [[User:Obilisk|<span style="text-decoration:">Obilisk</span>]]</span> 04:42, 4 November 2014 (PST)
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::To add on, maybe have it filmed from the perspective of the gift being sent, and have the perspective of the recipient? [[User:Cheddar|Cheddar]] ([[User talk:Cheddar|talk]]) 08:19, 16 December 2023 (UTC)
  
:This is probably the best first-time-attempt demo ever to date (and it's a pretty long demo too). Obilisk caught all that was needed. Some transitions are a bit fast in the engineer clips too. — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 16:48, 9 November 2014 (PST)
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:::I could help with this one, I can do most days after 22:00 CEST [[User:Po1yb1ank|Po1yb1ank]] ([[User talk:Po1yb1ank|talk]]) 15:29, 16 December 2023 (UTC)
:: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HY3bHDuB904&feature=youtu.be How's this?] After each taunt it is easy to see that the camera cuts to first person, rather than zooming in from third, however this seems to happen with every weapon that you taunt with, Valve must have added it in the last patch. Either way, how is it? <span style="font-family:aharoni; font-size:110%; font-style:;font-weight:bold;">[[File:User_Obilisk_Demo1.png]] [[User:Obilisk|<span style="text-decoration:">Obilisk</span>]]</span> 20:11, 22 November 2014 (PST)
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::::@Po1yb1ank we appreciate your enthusiasm, but before doing this, please complete the KGB video first. I can wait · [[User:Ashe|<font color="DB9C1F">Ashe</font>]] ([[User talk:Ashe|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) 17:45, 16 December 2023 (UTC)
::: Either way the recent update has made this weapon glow with crits. I'll update the video asap. <span style="font-family:aharoni; font-size:110%; font-style:;font-weight:bold;">[[File:User_Obilisk_Demo1.png]] [[User:Obilisk|<span style="text-decoration:">Obilisk</span>]]</span> 23:27, 27 November 2014 (PST)
 
::::: Cool, should be good now. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFo-P_UC8vQ&feature=youtu.be Watch] <span style="font-family:aharoni; font-size:110%; font-style:;font-weight:bold;">[[File:User_Obilisk_Demo1.png]] [[User:Obilisk|<span style="text-decoration:">Obilisk</span>]]</span> 06:57, 29 November 2014 (PST)
 
::::::There's no issue with this video, but I want to give more time for SkullCake to submit his updated version if any. Please upload by december 12 if SkullCake doesn't have a new version ready by then. — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 17:08, 30 November 2014 (PST)
 
  
                      [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I7bcmyl8G4M& How's this?] I have a new version of my demonstration. I think I have some mistakes with the transitions. [[User:SkullCake|SkullCake]] ([[User talk:SkullCake|talk]]) 10:31, 1 December 2014 (PST)
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:::::Sure thing, I've just been trying to edit it and the fist bump videos, expect them both in the coming days. [[User:Po1yb1ank|Po1yb1ank]] ([[User talk:Po1yb1ank|talk]]) 21:34, 16 December 2023 (UTC)
::::::::: Nice second attempt at your demonstration SkullCake, however there still are a few minor things you will want to fix.
 
  
:::::::::* In your scout and Pyro clips you should try swing full speed at the soldier. It seems you take a few (tiny) intervals between (at least most) of your swings.
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::::::I might delay doing the KGB taunt until the new year, I was going through the files and all of them have bots dropping the Smissmas presents, so expect the KGB to be completed later than expected. [[User:Po1yb1ank|Po1yb1ank]] ([[User talk:Po1yb1ank|talk]]) 13:55, 20 December 2023 (UTC)
:::::::::* In the Soldier clip, you may want to wait a tiny bit longer with crits on your weapon before swinging at the Medic.
 
:::::::::* After the Demoman taunts you appear to swing at nothing.
 
:::::::::* I'm not sure if it matters too much, but in the splitscreen at 3:25 your splitscreens seem swapped around. The whacking of the dispenser should be on the right side - although I think you may be able to get away with this?
 
:::::::::* During the Spy clip at 4:35 I would suggest having the spy on your left, otherwise your melee weapon blocks him. Although most of the time you do see him in your clip, so I'm not sure if this is crucial.
 
:::::::::* At the end of the entire demonstration you are missing the ending sound of the tape reel.
 
  
:::::::::* You may also want to give a tiny bit more time between the end of the clip and the transition to the next one. This is especially evident at 4:10 - Remember that there is no rush!
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{{Outdent|6}} I'm still up for making this demonstration, I would need a lovely assistant to help out with it. [[User:Cheddar|Cheddar]] ([[User talk:Cheddar|talk]]) 18:24, 21 January 2024 (UTC)
:::::::::* Not sure if it's just me, but the video does look saturated again, try decreasing the brightness just a tiny bit. This may just be me being picky again though and may not require any altering.
 
  
:::::::: Overall SkullCake, this is still a very nice submission for your second attempt. Only a few minor details are bringing the video down a bit. And as I've said before, you may want to wait for Wind's response to see if he agrees/disagrees with what I have spotted. If you'd like no one else working on this demonstration too, I'd suggest reserving it. You can do this by typing '''<code><nowiki>{{Reservation|~~~~}}</nowiki></code>''' below the title "Necro Smasher" - Remember that the reservation lasts for two weeks! Good luck. <span style="font-family:aharoni; font-size:110%; font-style:;font-weight:bold;">[[File:User_Obilisk_Demo1.png]] [[User:Obilisk|<span style="text-decoration:">Obilisk</span>]]</span> 06:04, 2 December 2014 (PST)
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:IF you still need an assist I could help some time just let me know [[User:Mediarch|Mediarch]] ([[User talk:Mediarch|talk]]) 23:43, 12 March 2024 (UTC)
  
:I disagree with Obilisk on points 1, 2, 3 (that swing-at-nothing is to cause the voice line to trigger, and we show it in every demoman melee that does that), and 8. So that leaves you with:
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::Yeah still need a hand with it, the only problem is getting a way to join one another because using create server won't make it joinable, I think there some other stuff you gotta do.<br>[[User:Cheddar|<font color="#193940">'''Cheddar'''</font>]] [[User talk:Cheddar|<font color="#193940">'''Talk'''</font>]] 07:53, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
* In the splitscreen at 3:25 your splitscreens seem swapped around. The whacking of the dispenser should be on the right side.
 
* During the Spy clip at 4:35 I would suggest having the spy on your left, otherwise your melee weapon blocks him.
 
* At the end of the entire demonstration you are missing the ending sound of the tape reel. (This isn't entirely true; it's there but youtube cuts it off. You need to add a half-second of full-black-screen full-silence video at the end to make it work)
 
* You may also want to give a tiny bit more time between the end of the clip and the transition to the next one. This is especially evident at 4:10 - Remember that there is no rush! (I think your transition speed is mostly fine, except the one at 4:10. You should wait a second or two after the sentry upgrade animation finishes. The rest of the video is fine)
 
I'd also like to add this:
 
* The audio volume proportion between the background music and the in-game sound is off. Try listening to your video and compare it with some already-uploaded demonstrations to compare. Your in-game volume should be louder than it currently is. It's not important that the videos all have the same volume, but it's important that the proportion between the in-game volume and the background music is mostly the same across videos. This isn't true in all clips though. I think for example the engineer clips seem to have a way higher in-game volume than the rest. Perhaps you mixed clips from multiple recording sessions with different volumes? In any case, need to be more consistent there — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 18:00, 7 December 2014 (PST)
 
[[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 18:00, 7 December 2014 (PST)
 
  
=={{icon item|Rock, Paper, Scissors|16px}} [[Rock, Paper, Scissors]]==
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::: pretty sure You should be able to use https://na.serveme.tf/ to temporarily rent a server. That's what a lot of the competitive teams use for matches. If that doesn't work I could ask around and know a few people that might have their own servers we could borrow [[User:Mediarch|Mediarch]] ([[User talk:Mediarch|talk]]) 08:49, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
::http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_t6XL8j18Y [[File:Charger 2.png|20px|]] [[User:Karmacharger|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Karmacharger</span>]] 1:10 AM 8/3/2014 (PDT)
 
:::Demonstration is fine but it only demonstrates wins against the other team. Try to select clips where you win one (against blu or red) and lose one (against blu or red). That way it shows both winning and losing animation for all classes, and it shows the case where you explode which is currently not demonstrated. — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 16:54, 2 August 2014 (PDT)
 
  
=={{icon item|Conga|16px}} [[Conga]]==
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::::[https://drive.google.com/file/d/1vprZjfUfVNmIYVgJTo2B1kWNxwoXQ-zR/view?usp=sharing Here] is the demo feedback needed! <br>[[User:Cheddar|<font color="#193940">'''Cheddar'''</font>]] [[User talk:Cheddar|<font color="#193940">'''Talk'''</font>]] 17:30, 27 April 2024 (UTC)
::Not sure how to do this one but let me try something, any suggestion? [[File:Charger 2.png|20px|]] [[User:Karmacharger|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Karmacharger</span>]] 1:12 PM 7/17/2014 (PDT)
 
:::Show each of the nine classes conga-ing in tr_target separately, for the full length that the conga music file lasts? Or here's another idea: Show one class conga-ing by himself, then show all nine classes in a row conga-ing? You'd need eight other human players connected to a server running the special tr_target map, though. Anyone got some other ideas? Oh! You could use the [[High Five!]] taunt demonstration as a guide... [[User:Dogman15|Dogman15]] ([[User talk:Dogman15|talk]]) 01:24, 25 July 2014 (PDT)
 
::::I think you should show you and a bot doing the conga first, then you have a hallway with alternate BLUs and REDs (to show that the taunt is universal with both teams) joining you with the Conga line.--[[User:Blarpbarp|Blarpbarp]] ([[User talk:Blarpbarp|talk]]) 14:34, 18 August 2014 (PDT)
 
:::::You should show also that the conga taunt disables people identification. You dont see any names from your teammates while doing the conga taunt. [[User:Magicalpony|Magicalpony]] ([[User talk:Magicalpony|talk]]) 04:21, 21 August 2014 (PDT)
 
  
==[[Image:Pumpkinbomb.png|16px]] [[Pumpkin bomb]]==
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:::::[https://drive.google.com/file/d/1n6LxHCztXG7Fql9_k6DIl_tzvvPxb6Z5/view?usp=sharing Here] is a newer version! <br>[[User:Cheddar|<font color="#193940">'''Cheddar'''</font>]] [[User talk:Cheddar|<font color="#193940">'''Talk'''</font>]] 19:51, 28 April 2024 (UTC)
:does it really need a video?  [[File:Charger 2.png|20px|]] [[User:Karmacharger|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Karmacharger</span>]] 4:52 AM 10/19/2014 (PDT)
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::::::Looks good. Thanks · [[User:Ashe|<font color="DB9C1F">Ashe</font>]] ([[User talk:Ashe|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) 15:04, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
::Not really. That or the other mechanics would need videos too (ghosts, halloween bosses, spells, etc) — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 19:59, 27 October 2014 (PDT)
 
  
== [[Image:Backpack Pool Party.png|16px]] [[Pool Party]] ==
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:::::::[https://drive.google.com/file/d/1WdoPKPndSFbAfdndznXG1T54facFABOi/view?usp=sharing Here] is a newer version!<br>[[User:Cheddar|<font color="#193940">'''Cheddar'''</font>]] [[User talk:Cheddar|<font color="#193940">'''Talk'''</font>]] 21:39, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
:{{Reservation|[[File:Charger 2.png|20px|]] [[User:Karmacharger|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Karmacharger</span>]] 2:29 PM 12/29/2014 (PDT)}}
 
::https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ao_kE6AjLVU [[File:Charger 2.png|20px|]] [[User:Karmacharger|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Karmacharger</span>]] 6:06 PM 12/31/2014 (PDT)
 
:::An image of the Pyro standing flashes very briefly at 0:21. [[User:Doktor|Doktor]] ([[User talk:Doktor|talk]]) 00:46, 2 January 2015 (PST)
 
::::Yes. If that's an animation bug, then you can paper over it by replacing that one frame by the one before it. This way it won't have to be redone if/when they fix it. — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 21:09, 10 January 2015 (PST)
 
:::::I believe Srcdemo2 is causing the problem and yes, removing a single frame that does it will probably fix it. But unfortunately, there is a new weird shadow bug after the latest update. Regardless of taunt it will always have the shadow of your main primary weapon on the floor, even if you taunt with melee. [http://youtu.be/uG3Fg5yXrIA a Video should describe it better], i also searched the Steam community discussion treads and apparently some people are having the same issue :( [[File:Charger 2.png|20px|]] [[User:Karmacharger|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Karmacharger</span>]] 7:59 PM 1/22/2015 (PDT)
 
::::::Going to have to wait until they fix it then. If you still have the original files for the previous video though then just remove that single frame from those files — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 17:31, 25 January 2015 (PST)
 
  
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=={{icon item|Gift Wrap|16px}} [[Gift Wrap]]==
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== {{Demo Header|Spellbook Magazine}} ==
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{{c|Demonstrate all Magic spells with the Stock (Normal quality) version equipped.}}
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{{c|Maybe include this one on the [[Magic spells]] page, other spellbook variants are not needed (Fancy and Diary).}}<br>
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Suggestion: Use {{cvar|tf_test_spellindex}} to always get a specific spell · [[User:Ashe|<font color="DB9C1F">Ashe</font>]] ([[User talk:Ashe|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) 21:19, 28 January 2024 (UTC)
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== {{Demo Header|Fancy Spellbook}} ==
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{{c|Same as above, with the exception that the particle effects that emit on the hand are different.}}
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== {{Demo Header|Fireproof Secret Diary}} ==
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{{c|Same as above, with the exception that the particle effects that emit on the hand are different.}}
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== {{Demo Header|Kritz or Treat Canteen}} ==
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== [[File:Heavyhumiliation.png|16px|link=Match outcomes]] [[Match outcomes]] ==
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{{c|Current one does not show front, crouching, running, etc, at all angles.}}
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So there's a bit of a problem with showing the other angles with this demonstration, as you can't actually rotate the camera. Despite it being in third person, you cannot change the angle of the camera nor use +left or +right to make only the camera move. Any attempt to move the camera either doesn't work or makes the character move along with the camera. My original plan for this demonstration was the following:
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* Show a split screen with a player on RED team on one screen and player on BLU team on the other screen
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** The RED player would capture the intelligence on 2Fort, and the other screen would show the BLU player in humiliation after they lose
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*** This part would repeat for each class
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* It would then cut to tr_karma where I would rotate the camera around the class when they're standing, crouching, running, etc
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* After this I would move on to the next class until all of them are done<br>
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However I can't do this because I can't rotate the camera, does anyone have any ideas on how to rotate or have other ideas of how to demonstration and show the different angles? <br>[[User:Andrew360|<span style="font-family:TF2 Build; color:#038d3a ">Andrew360</span>]] [[File:Edit_icon.png|20px|link=Special:Contributions/Andrew360]] [[File:Taunt Rancho Relaxo.png|25px|link=User_talk:Andrew360]] 22:47, 6 February 2023 (UTC)
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::How about just use the RED player to see the BLU humiliation animation. Like:
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::''RED player is the main camera, BLU player is a bot/a smaller pip/split screen in the video''
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::#BLU player stands beside the intel point
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::#RED player captures the intel and win the game
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::#BLU player enters humiliation
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::#RED player look at the BLU player
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::#BLU player moves around to show off the humiliation animation.
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::I feel like this also shows off the concept of "match outcomes", make the whole story connected via one team wins and see another team loses with humiliation animations. Do we have to use tr_karma map for demonstration? Is this demonstration video about "match outcomes" or "humiliation animations"?--[[User:AlexT|<span style="background:linear-gradient(#D1EEFC, #81F3FD);border:1px #99F3FD solid;color:#007FFF;border-radius:8px">'''Alex'''</span>]]┋[[User talk:AlexT|<span style="color: #FF6600;">'''T'''</span>]] 03:19, 7 February 2023 (UTC)
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:Simply using {{code|thirdperson_mayamode}} it would be possible to show off these animations from a stationary angle (turning your character rather than camera, although tr_karma/tr_target have no winning objective, so you'd need a different map for it (I suggest [[Thunder Mountain]] and standing in first BLU's spawn so it's still somewhat related to the tr_target map, using {{code|mp_bonusroundtime}} to extend the time at the end and just capping the first point).<br>[[User:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">GrampaSwood</font>]] ([[User talk:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) 11:01, 7 February 2023 (UTC)
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::I'm a bit confused on what you mean on the capping part, as you say to stay in BLU spawn, but also cap the point to win which would make BLU would win and RED would be in humiliation. Do you mean to make the time run out so RED wins instead? <br> [[User:Andrew360|<span style="font-family:TF2 Build; color:#038d3a ">Andrew360</span>]] [[File:Edit_icon.png|20px|link=Special:Contributions/Andrew360]] [[File:Taunt Rancho Relaxo.png|25px|link=User_talk:Andrew360]] 23:24, 7 February 2023 (UTC)
  
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:::Either works. Just any way to make the classes go into the humiliation pose. I personally wouldn't mind it that much if RED was in BLU spawn, but it's up to you.<br>[[User:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">GrampaSwood</font>]] ([[User talk:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) 12:33, 8 February 2023 (UTC)
:I'm not quite sure if this one is necessary [[File:Charger 2.png|20px|]] [[User:Karmacharger|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Karmacharger</span>]] 9:12 PM 8/24/2014 (PDT)
 
::Nah, probably not unless someone just happens to run upon that item — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 19:59, 27 October 2014 (PDT)
 
  
= Cosmetics =
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::::I went in game to test out thirdperson_mayamode, and it does not work, as for some reason the losing animation isn't considered as in "thirdperson" by the game I think. Does anyone else have any other ideas? Only other way I can think of is using SourceTV, however I don't know how to set that up. <br> [[User:Andrew360|<span style="font-family:TF2 Build; color:#038d3a ">Andrew360</span>]] [[File:Edit_icon.png|20px|link=Special:Contributions/Andrew360]] [[File:Taunt Rancho Relaxo.png|25px|link=User_talk:Andrew360]] 01:15, 12 February 2023 (UTC)
'''None.'''
 
  
 
= Need to be redone=
 
= Need to be redone=
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== {{Demo Header|Crusader's Crossbow}} ==
  
=={{icon item|Ali Baba's Wee Booties|16px}} [[Ali Baba's Wee Booties]]==
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{{c|Ubercharge gain rate is reduced in the same way that the Medi Gun's healing (and therefore, Ubercharge build rate) is - it is based on the last time the target was in combat.}}  
  
{{c|Added +25% Demo Charge meter on charge kill}}
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{{c|Does not show that if you try to heal up an enemy Spy, Über is not built.}}
  
=={{icon item|Black Box|16px}} [[Black Box]]==
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{{c|Does not show that if you heal an enemy player through a Pyro's reflect, Über is built.}}
{{c|Reloads rockets (instead of air) as of love/war update}}
 
  
{{Reservation/sandbox}} <span style="font-family:aharoni; font-size:110%; font-style:;font-weight:bold;">[[File:User_Obilisk_Demo1.png]] [[User:Obilisk|<span style="text-decoration:">Obilisk</span>]]</span> 18:51, 24 January 2015 (PST)
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I removed the clip from the previous demonstration when the medic is building his übercharge with the crossbow, the actual changes make it way too long. [https://youtu.be/Ssaodg-dl7g Video] — [[User:Thedop|Thedop]] ([[User talk:Thedop|talk]]) 14:44, 11 September 2019 (UTC)
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:The picture-in-picture clip is too large and covers the center of the main video's vision. So when the heavy/spy turns to see the medic, it just doesn't show up on the screen. Please decrease the size of the picture-in-picture — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 00:38, 16 September 2019 (UTC)
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::[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6asv69_x0o&feature=youtu.be Second try] — [[User:Thedop|Thedop]] ([[User talk:Thedop|talk]]) 06:45, 25 September 2019 (UTC)
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:::The Minigun is still hiding the medic when he's firing... — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 00:07, 30 September 2019 (UTC)
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::::''*sigh*'' Thedop's demonstration has been in hiatus for two years. Maybe I can make my own demonstration if Thedop doesn't mind. — [[User:Exaskliri|Exaskliri]] <sub>(they/them)</sub> ([[User talk:Exaskliri|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Exaskliri|contribs]]) 06:43, 14 April 2022 (UTC)
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:::::Demonstration reservations are only valid for 2 weeks. If the reservation tag remains on a video and no action has happened since, you can ignore the reservation and replace it with a reservation of your own. — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 00:33, 24 April 2022 (UTC)
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::::::Oh, and by the way, don't forget to add a demonstration of healing afterburn (probably the most common type of status effect). [[User:Qwertyxp2000|Qwertyxp2000]] ([[User talk:Qwertyxp2000|talk]]) 23:17, 16 June 2022 (UTC)
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::::::: Definitely doable for making an entry about using Crossbow at point blank range to both hit enemies and heal teammates. [[User:Qwertyxp2000|Qwertyxp2000]] ([[User talk:Qwertyxp2000|talk]]) 21:06, 25 June 2022 (UTC)
  
Uh hello,i'm new to the wiki... I've noticed this redo has veen reservated for a month already, so i decided to [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pxV8gPrJtLY give it a try.] As it is my first, please critic on what i should modify/arrange! So far,the only things i missed is the cursor showing in the loadout screen and the last pyro's screen share, to show that reflected rockets give health to the pyro too.If it's good ,please notify me of putting a download link of the .mp4 please. Cheers.[[User:Yahiamice|Yahiamice]] ([[User talk:Yahiamice|talk]]) 06:11, 4 August 2014 (PDT)
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== {{Demo Header|Enforcer}} ==
:You can reserve it now. [[File:User Hinaomi Hinaomi-sig.png|link=User:Hinaomi]] [[User:Hinaomi|Rikka Takanashi]] <small>([[User talk:Hinaomi|talk]]) • ([[Special:Contributions/Hinaomi|contributions]])</small> 13:13, 4 August 2014 (PDT)
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Note: Future redos won't have to do as many status effect clips as the previous video. - '''[[User:Thedop|Thedop]]''' 19:11, 20 October 2018 (UTC+1)
  
Looks like a pretty solid attempt at your first demonstration Yahiamice. I've spotted a few things you may want to improve.
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== {{Demo Header|Gloves of Running Urgently}} ==
* As you said, yes the Loadout screen should have your cursor visible.
 
* I believe you are standing a bit close to the Pyro in the first clip. You should start recording from the position you spawn in. (In the center of the box)
 
* You should try have smoother and slower mouse movements. You movement is quite jittery and fast, resulting in viewers perhaps getting a bit distracted.
 
* After you kill the soldier in the first clip you should stare at his body for a bit longer and let the BLU soldier (You) Finish at least most of what he's saying before turning to the Medic.
 
* Try keep your cursor still in the video, especially with the medic. While you are reloading and staring at him your cursor moves around a bit.
 
* When taunting try rotate the camera far enough to show the front of the Soldier, not the side.
 
* Give a bit more time before you shoot the Pyro in the compression blast clip, as you shoot almost instantly after the transition. I'd also suggest standing in the middle of the box. (As I said earlier.)
 
* Not sure if it's just me but your video seems a bit dark. Do you perhaps have the brightness lowered?
 
* "[F5] Save this moment!" Appears after the Pyro kills you. It moves a bit glitchy, although you may be able to get away with that.
 
* And yes as you said, you should include the footage showing the Pyro receiving health from a reflected rocket at the end.
 
  
Overall, as I said it's still a good first try. I'd also suggest waiting for Wind's response, as these are just what I spotted.  <span style="font-family:aharoni; font-size:110%; font-style:;font-weight:bold;">[[File:User_Obilisk_Demo1.png]] [[User:Obilisk|<span style="text-decoration:">Obilisk</span>]]</span> 04:20, 6 August 2014 (PDT)
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{{c|Show the hidden (?) functionality with Dalakohs Bar/Fishcake.}}
  
Okay then,i'll try making a better one. But i'd need help from an assistant AND a server hosting the training map... Plus i have no idea why my brightness is like that...[[User:Yahiamice|Yahiamice]] ([[User talk:Yahiamice|talk]]) 16:25, 7 August 2014 (PDT)
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{{c|Have a section dedicated to see if it's faster to run with the GRU at a certain point + eating the Dalokhs vs. not using the GRU.}}
:What Obilisk said. Are you using a ball mouse or something? It feels like your mouse movements are in small intervals rather than a smooth movement. It might just be a consequence of the jittery framerate though (which you should fix as well). There appears to be some sort of color-"correction" or "enhancement" filter going on regarding brightness; this shows up not only the demonstration, but also on the loadout clip (the red attribute text is a lot redder than it actually is in-game, the brown-ish background is a lot darker, etc). Also, this demonstration is being redone so that the soldier doesn't reload air in the rocket launcher, but here it looks like it's still air. Did Valve not fix it? If so, this demonstration shouldn't be redone at all — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 17:02, 10 August 2014 (PDT)
 
  
: I tested reloading the Black Box and it appears that the update did change it so it shows the rocket, however it is very hard to see with the default (65) fov. <span style="font-family:aharoni; font-size:110%; font-style:;font-weight:bold;">[[File:User_Obilisk_Demo1.png]] [[User:Obilisk|<span style="text-decoration:">Obilisk</span>]]</span> 22:15, 10 August 2014 (PDT)
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GRU has a hidden (?) functionality with the chocolate bar which can regenerate all the health lost upon eating. Not shown on the demonstration video, should it be? [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MvV_CnCpezo Video about the functionality]. I am also not sure if this should be a thing on the Daloks/Fishcake video or GRU (or both). [[File:User Gabrielwoj Signature Icon.png|15px|link=User:Gabrielwoj]] - [[File:User Gabrielwoj Signature 1.png|link=User:Gabrielwoj]] ▪ [[File:User Gabrielwoj Signature 2.png|link=Special:Contribs/Gabrielwoj]] - [[File:User Gabrielwoj Signature 3.png|link=User talk:Gabrielwoj]] 14:29, 14 August 2021 (UTC)
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:It's most likely a glitch and not intended. Yes, it's been out since forever, but so are other glitches out there, and these videos typically don't demonstrate these, in order to avoid a redo in case valve ever fixes them (lol, I know). — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 05:03, 17 September 2021 (UTC)
  
=={{icon item|Bootlegger|16px}} [[Bootlegger]]==
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== {{Demo Header|Holiday Punch}} ==
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{{c|Does not demonstrate that disguised spies do not laugh from Holiday Punch.}}
  
{{c|Added +25% Demo Charge meter on charge kill}}
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{{c|Does not demonstrate interaction between cloaked spies and Holiday Punch crits.}}
  
{{Reservation|[[User:Zippy|Zippy]] ([[User talk:Zippy|talk]]) 22:34, 22 December 2014 (PST)}}
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I kind of felt Holiday Punch could possibly be redone such that it demonstrates its interaction with cloaked and disguised spies. [[User:Qwertyxp2000|Qwertyxp2000]] ([[User talk:Qwertyxp2000|talk]]) 08:11, 17 March 2020 (UTC)
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:Not very practical, but sure, if anyone's up for it — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 04:11, 24 April 2020 (UTC)
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::Not sure if I have to create a new section for the Holiday Punch or add information on an already existing one, but there's several things that probably should also be demonstrated:
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::{{c|Demonstrate that enemies underwater doesn't laugh on the back / critical hits, which therefore, they don't receive damage}} (The map used for demonstrations does not have water, though)
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::{{c|Demonstrate that punching an enemy at the back / doing a critical hit on an enemy that is jumping / is on the air, has no effect, and does no damage}}
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::{{c|Demonstrate that it's possible to tickle enemies that are being Ubercharged, possibly include both the patient and the Medic being tickled}}
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::* Tickle the patient first, show that it's still in the effects of Uber, and tickle the Medic second, that would probably be more ideal, so it shows that when a Medic is tickled, his target loses the healing / ubercharge
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::* Perhaps also demonstrate the Quick-Fix ubercharge, since it mentions it blocks "movement-impairing effects", which isn't the case for the Holiday Punch (I'm pretty sure you can still get tickled with the Quick-Fix uber)
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::{{c|Demonstrate that a Scout with the effects of Bonk! can be tickled}}
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::{{c|Demonstrate that a Soldier with the Battalion's Backup active, as well his teammates receiving the Backup effect, can still be tickled}}
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:: A few other ones that I am unsure about:
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::{{c|Demonstrate that it's not possible to tickle robots and giant robots on MVM}} (I don't think we often make MVM-related stuff on these demonstrations, unless it's an unique mechanic like the Projectile Shield)
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::{{c|Demonstrate that an enemy who is taunting does not get tickled, and that it receives no damage on critical hits}} [[File:User Gabrielwoj Signature Icon.png|15px|Headphones style when?|link=User:Gabrielwoj]] - [[File:User Gabrielwoj Signature 1.png|link=User:Gabrielwoj]] ▪ [[File:User Gabrielwoj Signature 2.png|link=Special:Contribs/Gabrielwoj]] - [[File:User Gabrielwoj Signature 3.png|link=User talk:Gabrielwoj]] 04:23, 24 April 2022 (UTC)
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:::The <code>tr_karma_rc1</code> map has water (see [[Sydney Sleeper]] demonstration [https://youtu.be/95qD-3XF8ws?t=132 here]). I use that map for demonstrations, as it is preferred (according to the Weapon Demonstration page). — [[User:Exaskliri|Exaskliri]] <sub>({{gender:Exaskliri|he/him|she/her|they/them}})</sub> ([[User talk:Exaskliri|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Exaskliri|contribs]]) 09:23, 24 April 2022 (UTC)
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:::No to the Quick-Fix + Bonk + Battalion's Backup things; as the project page states, non-stock item interactions are usually not demonstrated, in order to avoid having a full explosion of weapon interactions to demonstrate. The Quick Fix one also sounds like a bug, so usually that isn't worth demonstrating either because it has marginal utility and may eventually get patched, which would just create more video work later down the line. But all the other points are good to demonstrate, so +1 that a redo is in order for this one — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 04:49, 12 May 2022 (UTC)
  
:I made a [http://youtu.be/huokY2CaPuI sample video here] for this. If this is any good, I'll do the exact same thing for the Ali Baba's Wee Booties. [[User:Zippy|Zippy]] ([[User talk:Zippy|talk]]) 22:11, 21 January 2015 (PST)
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I have an idea on how the new video might be represented:
:: Looking good, although I would suggest that rather than having the clip showing you killing 3 enemies, have a split screen comparison of using the bootlegger and using the Grenade launcher. Doing so will let viewers see actually how much faster you regenerate your charge compared to not using the Bootlegger. Also I think this weapon is glitched from testing it, as well as in the bugs it says "The item's attributes list includes "+200% increase in turning control while charging, despite being unable to do so; the players still get the normal turning control." Also I think you should have the soldier killing you at the end. This is just my opinion though, perhaps wait for Wind's response. <span style="font-family:aharoni; font-size:110%; font-style:;font-weight:bold;">[[File:User_Obilisk_Demo1.png]] [[User:Obilisk|<span style="text-decoration:">Obilisk</span>]]</span> 23:42, 22 January 2015 (PST)
 
::Your video needs to be 720p minimum. This one is 360p. There may also be framerate issue but it's hard to tell because it may be youtube degrading the framerate on low-quality video. I disagree with Obilisk regarding the split-screen thing and the killing-the-soldier thing, they're fine as is (the recharge clip is similar to the current Tide Turner demo) — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 17:31, 25 January 2015 (PST)
 
::: Here is [http://youtu.be/KRqnlEqJ6Qg another video with the 720p setting], and the [http://www.mediafire.com/download/y2a0b60mbgqi62q/training_vid_bootlegger.wmv download] just in case you like the video and want the original right off the bat. - [[User:Zippy|Zippy]] ([[User talk:Zippy|talk]]) 14:26, 26 January 2015 (PST)
 
  
=={{icon item|Disguise_Kit|16px}} [[Disguise Kit]]==
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'''Part 1: The Main Gang (Pyro, Soldier, Medic, Spy)'''
{{c| Disguise kit menu appearance has been updated.}}
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*Do the same actions as was done in the original video
{{Reservation|[[User:JamesCatty|JamesCatty]] ([[User talk:JamesCatty|talk]]) 18:19, 30 October 2014 (PDT)}}
 
Is this still needed? I didn't notice any significant changes from before(If any) [[User:JamesCatty|JamesCatty]] ([[User talk:JamesCatty|talk]]) 12:10, 30 October 2014 (PDT)
 
: Yes, I believe so. "Modified the Disguise Kit menu. It now has a Spy Mask icon in the upper-left corner and a white line above the class portraits." - Quoted from the June 11th patch. <span style="font-family:aharoni; font-size:110%; font-style:;font-weight:bold;">[[File:User_Obilisk_Demo1.png]] [[User:Obilisk|<span style="text-decoration:">Obilisk</span>]]</span> 18:01, 30 October 2014 (PDT)
 
:: Alrighty, I guess I will go ahead and do it when I get time (a few hours) [[User:JamesCatty|JamesCatty]] ([[User talk:JamesCatty|talk]]) 18:15, 30 October 2014 (PDT)
 
  
=={{icon item|Claidheamh Mòr|16px}} [[Claidheamh Mòr]]==
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'''Part 2: Basic Interactions'''
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Do the same actions as was done in the original video, demonstrating Kritzkrieg on Soldier (via friendly Medic) and Jarate on Demoman (via friendly Sniper), plus another for Medic interactions.
  
I know that this demonstration has recently be done, but I think it would be worth also showing that:
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'''Part 2a:'''
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# Approach friendly Kritzkrieg Medic, who has full charge
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# Get charged with the Kritzkrieg buff
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# Keep punching the enemy Soldier until the buff wears off
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# Punch again while the buff is off, and keep doing it until the Soldier dies
  
* Getting a charge kill with your Shield Bash will refill your charge by 25%.
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'''Part 2b:'''
* Getting a charge kill with the Grenade Launcher will not.
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# Approach friendly Sniper holding Jarate
* Charging with your primary out will still give you the 0.5 increase in charge duration.
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# Let the Sniper throw Jarate at the enemy Demoman
* Also, not sure if the rule about random crits and melee is really enforced, but in the first clip the medic is killed by a crit, when the melee doesn't have random crits.
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# Attack the Demoman normally while he is Jarated
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# Attack the Demoman from behind while he is Jarated
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# Kill the Demoman normally again while he is Jarated
  
I'm sad I didn't think of showing these when I demonstrated the weapon, but oh well. Think it's worth a redo? <span style="font-family:aharoni; font-size:110%; font-style:;font-weight:bold;">[[File:User_Obilisk_Demo1.png]] [[User:Obilisk|<span style="text-decoration:">Obilisk</span>]]</span> 03:11, 28 January 2015 (PST)
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'''Part 2c:'''
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# '''(This is where the new stuff begins)''' Approach an enemy Medic who is healing a <s>friendly</s> enemy Scout with his Medi Gun
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# Attack the Scout from the front and behind
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# Enemy Medic activate Medi Gun invulnerability
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# Do the same as Step 2 onto Scout except while Übercharged
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# Do the same as Step 4 except on Medic
  
=={{icon item|Eureka Effect|16px}} [[Eureka Effect]]==
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'''Part 3: Versus Mittens Heavy'''
I suggest showing that teammates with other wrenches will still upgrade and repair your buildings at normal rates. If this is wrong, pardon me, but please do include that in the Weapon Demonstration regardless. [[User:Green5|Green5]] ([[User talk:Green5|talk]]) 04:54, 2 December 2014 (PST)
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# Approach the enemy Mittens Heavy
:Equivalently, with the Eureka Effect you upgrade other Engineers' buildings at the slower rate. I think it's pretty clear from the item description that the lower upgrade rate is a property of the weapon itself, rather than a property of the buildings that the Engineers equipping it can build. If someone thinks that's not clear though, then this demonstration is OK to redo. — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 18:00, 7 December 2014 (PST)
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# Attack the Mittens Heavy with your Holiday Punch. Watch him laugh.
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# Let the Mittens Heavy attack you with his Holiday Punch. Watch yourself laugh.
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# Mittens Heavy will swap out Holiday Punch for Minigun.
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# Attack the Heavy with your Holiday Punch.
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# Swap your Holiday Punch for the Shotgun
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# Mittens Heavy will swap out Minigun for Holiday Punch
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# Let the Mittens Heavy attack you with his Holiday Punch.
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# '''(This is where the new stuff begins)''' Jump, and while mid-air let the Mittens Heavy attack you with his Holiday Punch. There should be no laugh.
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# Go behind the Mitten Heavy's back
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# Let the Mittens Heavy jump, and attack the Mittens Heavy with your Holiday Punch. There should be no laugh.
  
=={{icon item|Grenade Launcher|16px}} [[Grenade Launcher]]==
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'''Part 4: Spy Interactions'''
{{c|Direct hit grenades now deal full damage to target regardless of where it struck the enemy.}}
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View from the Heavy's and Spy's points of view, with a smaller video on the top-right (or something like that) for the Spy's point of view.
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# Approach the enemy Spy
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# Let the enemy Spy cloak
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# Attack the Spy with your Holiday Punch from behind. There should be no laugh.
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# Let the enemy Spy uncloak and disguise as any class (maybe the Heavy again)
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# Attack the Spy with your Holiday Punch from behind. There should be no laugh.
  
{{c|Damage variance on grenades reduced from +/- 10% damage to +/-2%}}
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'''Part 5: Taunts and Water'''
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# Let the enemy Engineer taunt from his Shotgun. It should be the one where he dances around.
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# While the enemy Engineer is taunting, attack him from behind with the Holiday Punch. There should be no laugh.
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# Repeat Steps 1 and 2 except attack him from the front.
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# The enemy Engineer runs to the water. Follow him into the water.
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# Attack him from behind with the Holiday Punch. There should be no laugh.
  
{{c|Grenades now have the same base blast radius as rockets. Changed to 146 from 159.}}
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'''Part 6: Robots'''
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# Approach an enemy Robot, preferably the Holiday Punch Heavy Robot.
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# Attack him with your Holiday Punch from the front, and then attack him from behind. There should be no laugh.
  
{{Reservation/sandbox}} <span style="font-family:aharoni; font-size:110%; font-style:;font-weight:bold;">[[File:User_Obilisk_Demo1.png]] [[User:Obilisk|<span style="text-decoration:">Obilisk</span>]]</span> 17:27, 3 January 2015 (PST)
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<s>[[User:Qwertyxp2000|Qwertyxp2000]] ([[User talk:Qwertyxp2000|talk]]) 02:49, 8 June 2022 (UTC)</s> <s>[[User:Qwertyxp2000|Qwertyxp2000]] ([[User talk:Qwertyxp2000|talk]]) 02:51, 8 June 2022 (UTC)</s> [[User:Qwertyxp2000|Qwertyxp2000]] ([[User talk:Qwertyxp2000|talk]]) 10:08, 8 June 2022 (UTC)
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:Very detailed, nice. — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 22:48, 19 June 2022 (UTC)
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::By the way, I also think that it would be helpful to add a section dedicating to observing a duration comparison for all [[Schadenfreude]] taunts. I have a feeling that the length of the taunt has an impact on gameplay of the Holiday Punch. So maybe we could do a section where 9 Holiday Punch Heavies simultaneously attack one of each class, which demonstrates the time it would take to get out of the forced animation.  [[User:Qwertyxp2000|Qwertyxp2000]] ([[User talk:Qwertyxp2000|talk]]) 01:41, 22 June 2022 (UTC)
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:::Might be cool if only for the comedy of it all. — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 21:39, 31 July 2022 (UTC)
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::::On "Part 4 - Let the enemy Spy uncloak and disguise as any class (maybe the Heavy again)", why not make the Spy disguise as the Heavy, and make sure that the Holiday Punch is active? The Spy won't be able to laugh, but I wonder if you (the player), would laugh. In case that happens, then it would be important to also showcase trying to punch the Spy from behind without having him with the Holiday Punch active. [[File:User Gabrielwoj Signature Icon.png|15px|Headphones style when?|link=User:Gabrielwoj]] - [[File:User Gabrielwoj Signature 1.png|link=User:Gabrielwoj]] ▪ [[File:User Gabrielwoj Signature 2.png|link=Special:Contribs/Gabrielwoj]] - [[File:User Gabrielwoj Signature 3.png|link=User talk:Gabrielwoj]] 03:19, 18 February 2023 (UTC)
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:::::Actually, never mind. For some reason I thought you also laughed with who you just punched that is also wearing the mittens (it commonly happens when both Heavies hold their left clicks after being tickled). But, the Spy wearing the Holiday Punch may be the best scenario here, so it shows that the disguise is not lost (although make sure to show also without the mittens active, and, when the mittens is active for Spy, punch him from the back, then punch him from the front). [[File:User Gabrielwoj Signature Icon.png|15px|Headphones style when?|link=User:Gabrielwoj]] - [[File:User Gabrielwoj Signature 1.png|link=User:Gabrielwoj]] ▪ [[File:User Gabrielwoj Signature 2.png|link=Special:Contribs/Gabrielwoj]] - [[File:User Gabrielwoj Signature 3.png|link=User talk:Gabrielwoj]] 13:08, 18 February 2023 (UTC)
  
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZMFmRhuKMvw&feature=youtu.be How's this?] I swapped the order of the demonstration a bit and also altered the clip showing the airblast to show that it doesn't damage their teammates if they reflect. Also, I don't "assist suicide" the Pyro, nor does it show the damage indicator above it's head. Maybe they've changed it? Also, 60fps woo! <span style="font-family:aharoni; font-size:110%; font-style:;font-weight:bold;">[[File:User_Obilisk_Demo1.png]] [[User:Obilisk|<span style="text-decoration:">Obilisk</span>]]</span> 03:56, 4 January 2015 (PST)
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== {{Demo Header|Original}} ==
:Is nice, please upload~ — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 21:09, 10 January 2015 (PST)
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{{Reservation|[[User:MudkipOnYT|MudkipOnYT]] ([[User talk:MudkipOnYT|talk]]) 18:23, 5 April 2024 (UTC)}}
:: [http://www.mediafire.com/download/h9iiobyjkh91r33/Grenade+Launcher+Demonstration.wmv Download] <span style="font-family:aharoni; font-size:110%; font-style:;font-weight:bold;">[[File:User_Obilisk_Demo1.png]] [[User:Obilisk|<span style="text-decoration:">Obilisk</span>]]</span> 23:49, 10 January 2015 (PST)
 
  
=={{icon item|Kritzkrieg|16px}} [[Kritzkrieg]]==
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Old Reservation (5th January 2024)
{{c|New model as of love/war update}}
 
  
{{Reservation/sandbox}} <span style="font-family:aharoni; font-size:110%; font-style:;font-weight:bold;">[[File:User_Obilisk_Demo1.png]] [[User:Obilisk|<span style="text-decoration:">Obilisk</span>]]</span> 01:09, 18 December 2014 (PST)
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{{c|Missing new reload sound}}
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I'd say this is an incredibly low priority one, may not even be worth redoing.<br>[[User:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">GrampaSwood</font>]] ([[User talk:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) 11:23, 17 January 2023 (UTC)
  
Am I permitted to do this one? I would love to contribute to the video project. [[User:M15513c0mm4nd|M15513c0mm4nd]] ([[User talk:M15513c0mm4nd|talk]]) 15:02, 16 October 2014 (PDT)
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I hope I've done this correctly, I am just beginning to get to work setting up to film my demonstration — [[User:MudkipOnYT|MudkipOnYT]] ([[User talk:MudkipOnYT|talk]]) 18:23, 5 April 2024 (UTC)
:Anyone is free to reserve a demonstration. You don't need to ask for permission. <span style="font-family:aharoni; font-size:110%; font-style:;font-weight:bold;">[[File:User_Obilisk_Demo1.png]] [[User:Obilisk|<span style="text-decoration:">Obilisk</span>]]</span> 19:20, 16 October 2014 (PDT)
 
  
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[https://drive.google.com/file/d/1AFvw7WW2T2ND179t1MBsemdeGDrhApZV/view?usp=share_link Here is the link] to my finished demonstration, I noticed other users who uploaded to Google Drive being told by the Moderators that their videos were in 30FPS. This one is at 60FPS, it just doesn't play at 60FPS in the Google Drive embedded player, it must be downloaded. Awaiting feedback! — [[User:MudkipOnYT|MudkipOnYT]] ([[User talk:MudkipOnYT|talk]]) 12:10, 6 April 2024 (UTC)
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:In the firing angle demonstrations, wait for about 3 seconds before commencing the firing. The rightwards angle demonstration is a bit too quick. Same with the frontal angle demonstration. Also, for the rocket jumping demonstration, don't wiggle around the screen so much during those idle phases; 1:29-1:31 are quite noticeably obvious. [[User:Qwertyxp2000|Qwertyxp2000]] ([[User talk:Qwertyxp2000|talk]]) 22:03, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
  
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GBdvbmO5oo4&feature=youtu.be Watch] How's this? In the loadout screen the medigun appears to be stuck to only one of the Medic's hands. There's no way around this. Also, just a FYI, I'll be on holiday after Christmas till the 4th of January. <span style="font-family:aharoni; font-size:110%; font-style:;font-weight:bold;">[[File:User_Obilisk_Demo1.png]] [[User:Obilisk|<span style="text-decoration:">Obilisk</span>]]</span> 20:41, 22 December 2014 (PST)
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Yeah I notice all of that now, can just go and re-record it at some point, I also interrupted the reload animation at the beginning. - [[User:MudkipOnYT|MudkipOnYT]] ([[User talk:MudkipOnYT|talk]]) 10:05, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
:At 1:28, look at the soldier while you're healing the demoman. It's to show that you can see both healthbars.
 
:Please flip the 3 heavies in the damage-after-time comparison clip to match the Medi Gun demo. (yes, the current kritzkrieg one is inconsistent)
 
:In the charge speed comparison, the Pyro is aiming at the pillar and the flame sometimes appears behind it; make it aim straighter.
 
Rest is good~ — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 16:44, 28 December 2014 (PST)
 
: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P5aCy-2FxZo&feature=youtu.be How's this?] The flame may still look like it's going behind the pillar a tiny bit, but for some reason it's hard to get the pyro to look like he's shooting at the heavy, as his flame seems to go a bit to his right. I can still try redo if necessary. <span style="font-family:aharoni; font-size:110%; font-style:;font-weight:bold;">[[File:User_Obilisk_Demo1.png]] [[User:Obilisk|<span style="text-decoration:">Obilisk</span>]]</span> 01:49, 3 January 2015 (PST)
 
::This is good, please upload~ — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 21:09, 10 January 2015 (PST)
 
::: [http://www.mediafire.com/download/614qra2bpafu49e/Kritzkreig+Demonstration.wmv Download] <span style="font-family:aharoni; font-size:110%; font-style:;font-weight:bold;">[[File:User_Obilisk_Demo1.png]] [[User:Obilisk|<span style="text-decoration:">Obilisk</span>]]</span> 23:50, 10 January 2015 (PST)
 
  
=={{icon item|Loch-n-Load|16px}} [[Loch-n-Load]]==
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== {{Demo Header|Power Up Canteen}} ==
{{c|Changes to base grenade damage variance now ensure the Loch-n-Load does not exceed 124 damage on a single hit.}}
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{{c|doesn't show Canteen Specialist upgrades like Battery Canteens demo does}}
  
{{c|Removed +25% self-damage penalty}}
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I feel like I can do a demonstration for this one. But my canteen is a crafted version so it has my username on it. Is that acceptable ? [[User:Kaezle|Kaezle]] ([[User talk:Kaezle|talk]]) 04:21, 25 August 2019 (UTC)
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: If you right click on it you should be able to remove that. [[User:Naleksuh|Naleksuh]] ([[User talk:Naleksuh|talk]]) 06:22, 25 August 2019 (UTC)
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::I think the stock version (Normal quality) should be used over the Unique one, considering all players have it. [[File:User Gabrielwoj Signature Icon.png|15px|link=User:Gabrielwoj]] - [[File:User Gabrielwoj Signature 1.png|link=User:Gabrielwoj]] ▪ [[File:User Gabrielwoj Signature 2.png|link=Special:Contribs/Gabrielwoj]] - [[File:User Gabrielwoj Signature 3.png|link=User talk:Gabrielwoj]] 04:23, 14 August 2021 (UTC)
  
{{c|Added -25% radius penalty}}
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== {{Demo Header|Sandvich}} ==
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{{c|Show that a dropped plate doesn't heal}}
  
{{c|Changed clipsize penalty to -25% (3 grenades per clip)}}
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{{reservation|[[User:Mediarch|<font color="ec5c69">'''Mediarch'''</font>]] [[File:User Mediarch PFP.png|25px]][[User:Mediarch|<font color="#ff66cc"> ♥ </font>]][[User talk:Mediarch|<font color="ec5c69">'''Talk'''</font>]][[User:Mediarch|<font color="#ff66cc"> ♥ </font>]][[Special:Contributions/Mediarch|<font color="ec5c69">'''My Edits'''</font>]] 19:57, 20 May 2024 (UTC)}}
  
{{c|Loch-n-load grenades no longer visually tumble when fired}}
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Hinaomi recommended this, so might as well try it. I would be up to make it if it's a valid reason [[User:GrampaSwood|GrampaSwood]] ([[User talk:GrampaSwood|talk]]) 12:02, 13 September 2019 (UTC)
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:Not sure I follow. You mean that picking up a dropped plate restocks the sandvich? That's already demonstrated... — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 00:38, 16 September 2019 (UTC)
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::Show that picking up a sandvich that's dropped via mouse2 doesn't heal.<br>[[User:GrampaSwood|GrampaSwood]] ([[User talk:GrampaSwood|talk]]) 05:30, 16 September 2019 (UTC)
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:::Oh OK, yeah. Might replace the existing pickup from full health then, so that it doesn't make the clip longer. — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 04:28, 23 September 2019 (UTC)
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::::Sure. Yes, please replace the existing pickup. — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 04:11, 24 April 2020 (UTC)
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:Just talked on the IRC channel today ([https://irc.biringa.com/channel/tfwiki/2022-04-18.html#07-53-57 log]) and GrampaSwood willingly relinquished the reservation for me. I am gonna focus on my reservations first, though. — [[User:Exaskliri|Exaskliri]] <sub>(they/them)</sub> ([[User talk:Exaskliri|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Exaskliri|contribs]]) 15:54, 18 April 2022 (UTC)
  
{{reservation/sandbox}} <span style="font-family:aharoni; font-size:110%; font-style:;font-weight:bold;">[[File:User_Obilisk_Demo1.png]] [[User:Obilisk|<span style="text-decoration:">Obilisk</span>]]</span> 21:45, 5 January 2015 (PST)
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Here's [https://drive.google.com/file/d/1A2K5061AnWDvaXwJvSn98fTeI9XRARPR/view?usp=sharing Sandvich demonstration] ready for feedback [[User:Mediarch|<font color="ec5c69">'''Mediarch'''</font>]] [[File:User Mediarch PFP.png|25px]][[User:Mediarch|<font color="#ff66cc"> </font>]][[User talk:Mediarch|<font color="ec5c69">'''Talk'''</font>]][[User:Mediarch|<font color="#ff66cc"> </font>]][[Special:Contributions/Mediarch|<font color="ec5c69">'''My Edits'''</font>]] 19:59, 21 May 2024 (UTC)
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wKJQkvtqs50&feature=youtu.be How's this?] I added in the airshot clip, as I don't see why it wasn't added before. Obviously some of the clips from the previous version of the demonstration have been removed as the stats have drastically changed. Other than that, tell me what you think! <span style="font-family:aharoni; font-size:110%; font-style:;font-weight:bold;">[[File:User_Obilisk_Demo1.png]] [[User:Obilisk|<span style="text-decoration:">Obilisk</span>]]</span> 22:37, 6 January 2015 (PST)
 
:This is good but it should show that grenades shatter on surfaces. Try hitting the ground close to an enemy so that it shows both that + nosplash — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 21:09, 10 January 2015 (PST)
 
:: Ah yes, I knew I forgot something. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vPFRD9tZcAU&feature=youtu.be How's this?] I snuck it into the first clip. <span style="font-family:aharoni; font-size:110%; font-style:;font-weight:bold;">[[File:User_Obilisk_Demo1.png]] [[User:Obilisk|<span style="text-decoration:">Obilisk</span>]]</span> 01:55, 11 January 2015 (PST)
 
:::Is good, please upload~ — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 19:26, 18 January 2015 (PST)
 
:::: [http://www.mediafire.com/download/2fprz8vvjpym0gr/Loch-n-Load+Demonstration.wmv Download] <span style="font-family:aharoni; font-size:110%; font-style:;font-weight:bold;">[[File:User_Obilisk_Demo1.png]] [[User:Obilisk|<span style="text-decoration:">Obilisk</span>]]</span> 02:26, 22 January 2015 (PST)
 
  
=={{icon item|Loose Cannon|16px}} [[Loose Cannon]]==
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== {{Demo Header|Self-Aware Beauty Mark}} ==
{{c|Double donk explosive damage now deal full radius damage to victims.}}
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{{Reservation|[[User:KingK|KingK]] ([[User talk:KingK|talk]]) 04:16, 6 January 2024 (UTC)}}
  
{{c|Removed a hidden penalty where Cannonballs that touched the world would deal 50% less damage in addition to regular grenade damage reduction on world touch.}}
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{{c|Updated description. (Also handy for putting out a fire)}}
  
{{reservation/sandbox}} <span style="font-family:aharoni; font-size:110%; font-style:;font-weight:bold;">[[File:User_Obilisk_Demo1.png]] [[User:Obilisk|<span style="text-decoration:">Obilisk</span>]]</span> 02:04, 15 January 2015 (PST)
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{{c|Extinguish an ally reduces the cooldown by 20%}}
  
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m2aiePkezqg&feature=youtu.be How's this?] In the first clip the Medic is not seen when he dies, I can redo the first clip if necessary. Other than that, please tell me what you think! <span style="font-family:aharoni; font-size:110%; font-style:;font-weight:bold;">[[File:User_Obilisk_Demo1.png]] [[User:Obilisk|<span style="text-decoration:">Obilisk</span>]]</span> 00:06, 14 January 2015 (PST)
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[https://imgur.com/a/4bwI65r A funny bug] but i think i better waiting for Valve to fix it. - '''[[User:Thedop|Thedop]]''' 10:35, 12 October 2018 (UTC+1)
:dat medic kill is very nice. Nice last clip too. Please upload~ — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 19:26, 18 January 2015 (PST)
 
:: [http://www.mediafire.com/download/u8x1xj0qhwng74r/Loose+Cannon+demonstrationNEW.wmv Download] <span style="font-family:aharoni; font-size:110%; font-style:;font-weight:bold;">[[File:User_Obilisk_Demo1.png]] [[User:Obilisk|<span style="text-decoration:">Obilisk</span>]]</span> 02:25, 22 January 2015 (PST)
 
  
=={{icon item|Natascha|16px}} [[Natascha]]==
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Hey there, I decided I'd help out on this
{{c|Now has damage and accuracy ramp-up}}
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Hopefully around Jan 8-9 would be where I have everything for this demonstration. [[User:KingK|KingK]] ([[User talk:KingK|talk]]) 04:16, 6 January 2024 (UTC)
  
{{c|Show movement speed comparison of shooting, spinning and walking.}}
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Alright I got it all right here.
  
{{Reservation|[[User:m15513c0mm4nd|m15513c0mm4nd]] ([[User talk:m15513c0mm4nd|talk]]) 15:09, December 2, 2014 (PDT)}}
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[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JM1TOt4zxiw Video]
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- [[User:KingK|KingK]] ([[User talk:KingK|talk]]) 03:51, 10 January 2024 (UTC)
  
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:Seems like your graphics settings aren't on the max, the windows on tr_karma also seem to be bugged. For the first clip, your kill sound should be turned off. For the second clip, make sure to switch all the bots back to the Shotgun. For the third clip, the clip is quite laggy and the sound suddenly increases halfway through. Fourth clip looks fine, albeit with some quality issues as mentioned before. For the first Spy clip, make sure to wait until he's fully invisible to throw the Jarate on him. Splitting up the cloaked and disguised Spy clip like this is better imo, rather than having it be one clip like the original. In the clip where you extinguish 3 teammates, it's fine to just use a single Heavy for that rather than 3 teammates. Maybe 3 clips at the same time would also be suitable for this: one to show off no extinguish, one to show off 1 extinguish, and one to show off extinguishing 2 teammates. It would show that 1 ally extinguished and 2 allies extinguished equally reduces the cooldown.
  
Can I reserve this one? I'm attempting to contribute a whole lot to the wiki. [[User:M15513c0mm4nd|M15513c0mm4nd]] ([[User talk:M15513c0mm4nd|talk]]) 15:13, 16 October 2014 (PDT)
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:Other than that, remember to stand still between each clip. It seems like this was most notable on the clip with you and the Heavy being extinguished. The minimum acceptable video quality would be 1080p 60fps, perhaps recording only at that resolution rather than 4k will help with running the game a bit smoother, as currently some clips are very laggy even on 1080p.<br>[[File:BLU Wiki Cap.png|20px|link=List of Wiki Cap owners]] | [[Help:Group rights|<span style="color:green;font-family:TF2 Build;">s</span>]] | [[User:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">GrampaSwood</font>]] [[File:PraisetheSun.png|20px|alt=Praise the Sun!]] ([[User talk:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) ([[Special:Contributions/GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">contribs</font>]]) 11:48, 10 January 2024 (UTC)
  
:Here's a link to my demonstration. http://youtu.be/bS6vu7KurNQ [[User:M15513c0mm4nd|M15513c0mm4nd]] ([[User talk:M15513c0mm4nd|talk]]) 18:27, 16 October 2014 (PDT)
 
:: As I said on the Kritzkrieg demonstration, anyone is able to reserve a demonstration. Nice attempt for your first video dude, there's a few minor problems you may want to fix.
 
:* You appear to have quite jittery/rapid movement of your crosshair, mainly evident at 0:29.
 
:* You don't need to spin up / down the barrel between targets. However, if you do, let the spin down animation finish before spinning it up again.
 
:* When you first shoot the Pyro, try to only shoot him once then wait. Repeat this until (s)he is dead.
 
:* You don't need to shoot all the targets with burst fire. After killing the Pyro, kill the soldier and medic with full auto fire.
 
:* Try to only shoot the back target with one small burst, not two.
 
:* When you taunt, try to move the camera with one single motion. (You appear to move, stop then move again)
 
:* You do not need the clip at 0:59. Instead, I'd recommend watching the current Natascha demonstration, and mimicking the clips there, as it meets the criteria. (https://wiki.teamfortress.com/wiki/Natascha)
 
:* From watching the current Natascha demonstration you'll also notice that you're missing the split screen clip, and the move comparison clip.
 
:* The reason this demonstration needs to be redone is because we need to "Show movement speed comparison of shooting, spinning and walking." To do this you'll need to use a 3 way splitscreen. I still have a good exemplar in my Minigun demonstration at 0:47. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BwLsk6ICvQ0&)
 
:* I believe your fade in and fade out are a bit quick, try increase the duration to I think it's about half a second?
 
  
:These are the things that I spotted, however you will want to wait for Wind's response, as he is in charge of the weapon demonstration project. It is hard starting out demonstrating weapons - My suggestion would be to constantly refer to the current demonstration of the weapon to get an idea of how to demonstrate the item. Don't be put off, as this is your first demonstration! :) <span style="font-family:aharoni; font-size:110%; font-style:;font-weight:bold;">[[File:User_Obilisk_Demo1.png]] [[User:Obilisk|<span style="text-decoration:">Obilisk</span>]]</span> 19:48, 16 October 2014 (PDT)
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::Aight will get working on it, Thanks Grampa Swood [[User:KingK|KingK]] ([[User talk:KingK|talk]]) 11:52, 10 January 2024 (UTC)
:What Obilisk said, and also:
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::Here's the newly updated video
* You must use antialiasing (2x or more). The edges look blocky in the video.
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::[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_3_hfEnpB4 Video]
* Use a higher video bitrate. The video gets full of artifacts during quick transitions. For example, [http://upload.gaiatools.com/files/weaponref_badq_1.png here's what the video looks like right after the taunt ends].
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::[[User:KingK|KingK]] ([[User talk:KingK|talk]]) 15:54, 12 January 2024 (UTC)
  
Generally though, follow the existing Natachsa demo as closely as possible for the existing clips as reference. Good luck~ — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 19:59, 27 October 2014 (PDT)
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:::The video still looks laggy. It was not recorded at 60 fps. Also your antialiasing settings are still low. Use 4x or 8x.
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:::The video still has some problems. General: You wait too much between clips. When using half/third width clips don't disabled the HUD. I know that sometimes the elements look out of place but that can be fixed by editing the hud. First clip: The jar being misplaced is not your fault, but I think I can send a fix here. Second clip: The demoman should hit his 2 pipes instead of trying to kill the medic with rollers. 4th clip: I think you recorded the clips with normal width. Use half-width. 5th clip: The spy clips are now similar to the mad milk video. That's good, however, don't separate the spy clips. Record the clip in one shot. 6th clip: wait a bit before extinguishing yourself and the heavy. 7th clip: again, don't hide the hud. Final clip: It still shows the match hud bar. You can fix this by reloading the hud using hud_reloadscheme. · [[User:Ashe|<font color="DB9C1F">Ashe</font>]] ([[User talk:Ashe|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) 22:30, 24 January 2024 (UTC)
  
=={{icon item|Power Up Canteen|16px}} [[Power Up Canteen]]==
 
{{c|doesn't show Canteen Specialist upgrades like Battery Canteens demo does}} [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] 10:04, 26 June 2014 (PDT)
 
  
=={{icon item|Schadenfreude|16px}} [[Schadenfreude]]==
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== {{Demo Header|Chargin' Targe}}, {{Demo Header|Tide Turner}}, and {{Demo Header|Splendid Screen}} ==
{{c|New taunt menu}}
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Should these be redone to show that they remove debuffs such as Jarate, bleeding, afterburn, etc.? If so, which effects should I specifically show?<br>[[User:GrampaSwood|GrampaSwood]] ([[User talk:GrampaSwood|talk]]) 08:31, 25 June 2020 (UTC)
:That's not enough of a reason to redo this — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 15:00, 13 September 2014 (PDT)
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:{{c|yes}}, the effects that should show are just some of them, not all
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:* Soaking, Jarate is preferable as it make the screen yellow tint.
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:* Fire, simple burn from Flamethrower.
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:* Bleeding, from Southern Hospitality?
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:* Mark for death, from Fan O'War
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:I think those are all. [[File:User Hinaomi Hinaomi-sig.png|link=User:Hinaomi]] [[User:Hinaomi|Rikka Takanashi]] <small>([[User talk:Hinaomi|talk]]) • ([[Special:Contributions/Hinaomi|contributions]])</small> 12:47, 25 June 2020 (UTC)
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::Yes, that would all be good. — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 05:44, 8 July 2020 (UTC)
  
=={{icon item|Scottish Resistance|16px}} [[Scottish Resistance]]==
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== {{Demo Header|Quick-Fix}} ==
  
{{c|It is now slightly easier to do sticky jumps with the Scottish Resistance. Increased range check for stickybomb jumping to sticky damage radius of 146 from 100.}}
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Old reservation (29 April 2021)
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{{Reservation/sandbox}} <span style="font-family:aharoni; font-size:110%; font-style:;font-weight:bold;">[[File:User_Obilisk_Demo1.png]] [[User:Obilisk|<span style="text-decoration:">Obilisk</span>]]</span> 17:06, 11 January 2015 (PST)
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{{c|What I've done in addition to the existing one (the timestamp in the parentheses are the old/new ones):}}
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# ([https://youtu.be/mWbjD7LjtVg?t=74 1:14]/[https://youtu.be/hj5FuFVFV2U?t=84 1:24]) On the first scene demonstrating the Quick-Fix's basic functions, I did the same as the old one, plus damaging myself and the patient Heavy while being Ubered, demonstrating that the Quick-Fix's Uber doesn't reduce incoming damage. I also damaged myself (the Medic) twice instead of once.
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# ([https://youtu.be/mWbjD7LjtVg?t=129 2:09]/[https://youtu.be/hj5FuFVFV2U?t=159 2:39]) When demonstrating the Quick-Fix's heal rate in comparison to the stock [[Medi Gun]], while mostly the same, I used a recently-injured Heavy, so that the heal rate (for each medigun) is at the slowest. I used an offscreen pistol Engineer (hence why the starting HP is 14), teleport commands, and <code>r_cleardecals</code>, so it should look neat.
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# ([https://youtu.be/mWbjD7LjtVg?t=137 2:17]/[https://youtu.be/hj5FuFVFV2U?t=181 3:01]) I demonstrated the knockback immunity from Quick-Fix's Uber the same way, but now there's health and Ubercharge HUD.
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# ([https://youtu.be/mWbjD7LjtVg?t=176 2:56]/[https://youtu.be/hj5FuFVFV2U?t=227 3:47]) I did the "mirror blast jumping" part outdoors, although it might not look neat. I'm sorry.
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# ([https://youtu.be/mWbjD7LjtVg?t=206 3:26]/[https://youtu.be/hj5FuFVFV2U?t=257 4:17]) I demonstrated crit healing (after the recipient doesn't take damage for 10-15 seconds) with the Quick-Fix's Uber in addition to the non-Uber Quick-Fix. Yes, the 3x healing rate Uber stacks with the crit heal.
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# ([https://youtu.be/mWbjD7LjtVg?t=233 3:53]/[https://youtu.be/hj5FuFVFV2U?t=416 6:56]) I redid the "Uber build rate comparison on different HP threshold" because the old one didn't have the Quick-Fix as the second healing beam, hence it doesn't explain if the second healing beam alone would slow down the Quick-Fix's Uber build rate (the Quick-Fix has 125% maximum overheal, lower than the usual Uber build rate penalty at 142.5% overheal).
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# ([https://youtu.be/mWbjD7LjtVg?t=266 4:26]/[https://youtu.be/hj5FuFVFV2U?t=306 5:06]) I demonstrated the Quick-Fix maximum overheal limit and decay rate on Scout vs. Heavy as well as comparing it to the stock [[Medi Gun]]'s overheal in addition to the "maintain overheal above 125%" that the old video demonstrated. For the last part, I only used one Heavy, as the aforementioned added demonstrations make up for that, and I maintained the overheal above and below 142.5% overheal (Uber build rate comparison) as well as healing the Heavy when the overheal goes down below 125%.
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# ([https://youtu.be/mWbjD7LjtVg?t=286 4:46]/[https://youtu.be/hj5FuFVFV2U?t=512 8:32]) For the "healing disguised Spy" part, I have two enemy bots (Heavy and Demoman) so that the Spy doesn't disguise as a Demoman named "Medic". Both bots are injured, so my disguise will be healed, too.
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{{c|The new ones (the timestamps refer to the new demonstration):}}
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# ([https://youtu.be/hj5FuFVFV2U?t=459 7:39]) Demonstrating stock [[Medi Gun]]'s Uber vs. Quick-Fix's Uber (the latter doesn't reduce incoming damage, but prevents incoming knockback unlike the former) and the fact that they have same duration (barring the stock's lingering effect). Also has Quick-Fix's Uber without incoming rockets to demonstrate that the duration is the same.
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# ([https://youtu.be/hj5FuFVFV2U?t=478 7:58]) Ubering multiple teammates at the same time drain faster than Ubering a single teammate alone. Also, only the aforementioned Ubering multiple teammates drains Uber faster; Ubering an injured teammate drains at the same rate as Ubering a healthy teammate (fully overhealed) and not healing someone when Ubered.
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Is it really required to make a new video because of this reason? [[User:Sydcul|Sydcul]] ([[User talk:Sydcul|talk]]) 04:09, 1 January 2015 (PST)
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:I did the "Uber draining when dropped" part, but both mediguns show "Dropped by Exaskliri." Is it allowed? I gave the bot the Quick-Fix via bot_mirror command. https://youtu.be/0ZlwvHZrjdU [[User:Exaskliri|Exaskliri]] ([[User talk:Exaskliri|talk]]) 04:27, 30 April 2021 (UTC)
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::Nothing you can do about that, that's just how it shows. Shouldn't be too noticeable and there's no point in going through the trouble of setting up a server and getting a buddy to join only so it doesn't show. Though the confusion on where the quick-fix actually is should be redone so it doesn't look like you are looking for it.<br>[[User:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">GrampaSwood</font>]] ([[User talk:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) 10:37, 30 April 2021 (UTC)
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:# I just did the "mirroring the explosive jump" part, though I don't think it looks neat. Is it OK? https://youtu.be/NQo1iTxQSEA [[User:Exaskliri|Exaskliri]] ([[User talk:Exaskliri|talk]]) 03:31, 3 May 2021 (UTC)
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:# Just finished the whole demonstration. I just need to attach the segments. [[User:Exaskliri|Exaskliri]] ([[User talk:Exaskliri|talk]]) 15:15, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
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:# Just finished <s>uploading</s> re-uploading the new Quick-Fix demonstration video to YouTube and MediaFire.
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::# https://youtu.be/hj5FuFVFV2U
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::# https://www.mediafire.com/file/kx7kbaik5vwpwyj/Quick-Fix_Weapon_Demonstration_Video.mp4/file
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:::[[User:Exaskliri|Exaskliri]] ([[User talk:Exaskliri|talk]]) 08:08, 6 May 2021 (UTC)
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:::: I don't see any problems, except for the the explosive jumps scenes, that looks a bit laggy, and in general the quality, that seems to be more like a rendering issue, though shouldn't be a problem · [[User:Ashe|Ashe]] ([[User talk:Ashe|talk]]) 04:40, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
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: I'm fixing the video right now (quieting projector sound, incorrect fade out time, etc.). Gotta reupload soon. [[User:Exaskliri|Exaskliri]] ([[User talk:Exaskliri|talk]]) 10:39, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
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: Just uploaded the fixed version of the [[Quick-Fix]] demonstration video. [[User:Exaskliri|Exaskliri]] ([[User talk:Exaskliri|talk]]) 13:01, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
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::This is spectacular work, thanks a lot! Just two comments, none of which should require a lot of work to fix hopefully:
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* Video quality also seems to have the same artifacts as the Winger demonstration. Please increase the bitrate. Unlike the Winger demonstration, I understand that a demonstration this long could take forever and use a lot of bandwidth to upload twice (to YouTube and to MediaFire), so if the video quality is approved for the Winger demonstration is good enough and you've used the same settings for re-rendering this demonstration, feel free to just upload the higher-quality Quick Fix demonstration to MediaFire only, in order to avoid having to upload the huge file twice.
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* There is an audio/video glitch at 9:56 - 9:57.
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— [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 05:46, 10 May 2021 (UTC)
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:::You finally responded! Thank you so much. The video/audio glitch is from the .dem recording, so I had to conduct another play, especially since it involves another player. [[User:Exaskliri|Exaskliri]] ([[User talk:Exaskliri|talk]]) 15:12, 10 May 2021 (UTC)
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::::Alright. Can you upload the new version? — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 04:40, 1 June 2021 (UTC)
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Personally I believe so, although making it 'easier to do stickyjumps' may not need a redo alone. However,  them changing the damage radius variables is a pretty good reason I believe. <span style="font-family:aharoni; font-size:110%; font-style:;font-weight:bold;">[[File:User_Obilisk_Demo1.png]] [[User:Obilisk|<span style="text-decoration:">Obilisk</span>]]</span> 00:00, 2 January 2015 (PST)
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== {{Demo Header|Blutsauger}} ==
:Yes — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 21:09, 10 January 2015 (PST)
 
  
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[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4KKo_sdq8m4&feature=youtu.be How's this?] Sadly I had to use fraps, as the demo playback wouldn't pick up the white border around the stickies, resulting in not being able to see them through walls. However I still recorded the .dem files. The second and third clips are actually two different clips, but they seem to be so perfectly synced with the transition it's hard to tell the clip changes - hopefully this isn't a problem. I also combined the scout and soldier clip on the old demonstration, by instead just having the soldier in one clip. Also, just a heads up, I'll be away from the 16th - 21st. <span style="font-family:aharoni; font-size:110%; font-style:;font-weight:bold;">[[File:User_Obilisk_Demo1.png]] [[User:Obilisk|<span style="text-decoration:">Obilisk</span>]]</span> 19:04, 13 January 2015 (PST)
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:Similar to the quickiebomb launcher comment, the time-to-detonation clip would be better if it fired more stickybombs. Also make the enemy stickybomb detonation be in a row to demonstrate range better (the current clip shows it fine because it shows the destruction of a stickybomb cluster with one spared because it's just outside range, but it would still be better to redo it with the stickybombs in a row for consistency with the other quickiebomb clip). — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 19:26, 18 January 2015 (PST)
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: Update on this. Video seems to require multiple people. Wasn't able to find anyone else to help me. If you want to help me record this please ping me. [[User:Naleksuh|Naleksuh]] ([[User talk:Naleksuh|talk]]) 19:53, 21 December 2021 (UTC)
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:: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e3oCv6iYay8&feature=youtu.be How's this?] <span style="font-family:aharoni; font-size:110%; font-style:;font-weight:bold;">[[File:User_Obilisk_Demo1.png]] [[User:Obilisk|<span style="text-decoration:">Obilisk</span>]]</span> 16:59, 24 January 2015 (PST)
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Here's the [https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Yt75ezXKGgKa8q3Ca8p0mjqTtmoGF18i/view?usp=drive_link Blutsauger demonstration] ready for feedback. Shows the updated description and I also included a clip to show that you don't gain health from buildings. [[User:Mediarch|<font color="ec5c69">'''Mediarch'''</font>]] [[File:User Mediarch PFP.png|25px]][[User:Mediarch|<font color="#ff66cc"> </font>]][[User talk:Mediarch|<font color="ec5c69">'''Talk'''</font>]][[User:Mediarch|<font color="#ff66cc"> ♥ </font>]][[Special:Contributions/Mediarch|<font color="ec5c69">'''My Edits'''</font>]] 19:28, 13 May 2024 (UTC)  
:::Similar to the stickybomb launcher, show that you are still in control of the sticky detonation after the pyro airblasts them. — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 17:31, 25 January 2015 (PST)
 
  
:::: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KblwWCw52X4&feature=youtu.be How's this?] In the air blast clip I detonated the Stickybombs multiple times to further emphasize that I'm in control of the Stickies. Please let me know what you think. After 9 renders in development, hopefully it will be worth the weight. <span style="font-family:aharoni; font-size:110%; font-style:;font-weight:bold;">[[File:User_Obilisk_Demo1.png]] [[User:Obilisk|<span style="text-decoration:">Obilisk</span>]]</span> 20:51, 26 January 2015 (PST)
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:The demo also needs to show that the effect is pasive, so you have to include a clip where the medic receives damage with the blutsauger and the medigun/bonesaw deployed · [[User:Ashe|<font color="DB9C1F">Ashe</font>]] ([[User talk:Ashe|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) 04:25, 27 May 2024 (UTC)
  
=={{icon item|Shred Alert|16px}} [[Shred Alert]]==
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:: [https://drive.google.com/file/d/1C8vYj4CU000bzOls1pgP7n6oBRFhMWeG/view?usp=sharing Here's version two] with a clip showing the effect is passive [[User:Mediarch|<font color="ec5c69">'''Mediarch'''</font>]] [[File:User Mediarch PFP.png|25px]][[User:Mediarch|<font color="#ff66cc"> ♥ </font>]][[User talk:Mediarch|<font color="ec5c69">'''Talk'''</font>]][[User:Mediarch|<font color="#ff66cc"> ♥ </font>]][[Special:Contributions/Mediarch|<font color="ec5c69">'''My Edits'''</font>]] 01:58, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
{{c|New taunt menu}}
 
:That's not enough of a reason to redo this — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 15:00, 13 September 2014 (PDT)
 
  
=={{icon item|Stickybomb Launcher|16px}} [[Stickybomb Launcher]]==
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== {{Demo Header|Eyelander}}, {{Demo Header|Nessie's Nine Iron}}, {{Demo Header|Horseless Headless Horsemann's Headtaker}}, and {{Demo Header|Half-Zatoichi}} ==
{{c|Stickybombs that detonate in the air now have a radius ramp up, starting at 85% at base arm time (0.8s) going back to 100% over 2 seconds. Stickybombs that touch the world will have full radius.}}
 
  
{{c|Stickybombs now have a more visible trail while traveling through the air}}
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{{c|Show slower deploy and holster comparision.}}
  
{{c|Stickybombs arm particle is slightly more visible}}
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The other swords shows the comparision except for the above ones. [[User:ThunderRunner|ThunderRunner]] ([[User talk:ThunderRunner|talk]]) 08:54, 18 December 2021 (UTC)
  
{{c|Stickybombs now have the same base blast radius as rockets. Changed to 146 from 159.}}
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I think I am capable of doing demonstrations again.  As someone on the wiki that doesn't get credited for shit, I think these might upper my reputation.<br>----[[File:User Slimyboi500 Logo.png|100px|link=User:Slimyboi500]] [[File:User Slimyboi500 Profile.jpg|25px|link=User:Slimyboi500]] [[User talk:Slimyboi500|Talk]] [[File:Speech voice.png|25px|link=User talk:Slimyboi500]] [[Special:Contributions/Slimyboi500|Contribs]] [[File:Wrench_IMG.png|25px|link=Special:Contributions/Slimyboi500]] [https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561199515551163/ Steam] [[File:Steam tray.png|25px|link=https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561199515551163/]] 04:32, 19 April 2024 (UTC)
  
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eejZJqbVHoY&feature=youtu.be How's this?] Also, is it worth showing the damage ramp up? Or is the stickyspam on the second soldier in the first clip good enough? And in the airblast clip, should we keep the demoman detonating after the airblast? In my opinion this could confuse some people, as it looks like that if you air blast the sticky bombs they will kill the Demoman. Other than that though, tell me what you think. PS - This demonstration is only at 30fps, 8 hours into the render, srcdemo2 kept crashing trying to render the first clip at 60fps. <span style="font-family:aharoni; font-size:110%; font-style:;font-weight:bold;">[[File:User_Obilisk_Demo1.png]] [[User:Obilisk|<span style="text-decoration:">Obilisk</span>]]</span> 23:44, 10 January 2015 (PST)
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:What edits/contributions have you made that you did not get credited for?<br>[[File:BLU Wiki Cap.png|20px|link=List of Wiki Cap owners]] {{!}} [[Help:Group rights|<span style="color:green;font-family:TF2 Build;">s</span>]] {{!}} [[User:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">GrampaSwood</font>]] [[File:PraisetheSun.png|20px|alt=Praise the Sun!]] ([[User talk:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) ([[Special:Contributions/GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">contribs</font>]]) 05:13, 19 April 2024 (UTC)
:The demonstration has a weird effect when you turn your viewpoint. It feels a bit glitchy somehow, as if you're turning your head in notches rather than as a smooth movement. I downloaded the 60fps version from youtube. If it's only 30fps, make sure the encoded video file is also 30fps. (Also I'd like to know more about this crash. Need debug logs)
 
:Also please don't spawn a heavy like that out of the blue. Either make this a separate clip, or have the heavy be there from the beginning and facing the right way. I recommend the separate-clip approach because the current one is hard to understand because it's seen from pretty far away. Not sure what the soldier part afterwards is supposed to demonstrate. I knwo the original demo did that but I can't remember why (it's from 3 years ago...)
 
:Re: pyro clip: Yes. I think the best way to show it would be from the demoman's perspective. First some stickies, have the pyro push them back under your feet, go away from them, stare at them for a few seconds to make it clear it's not the pyro that is controlling these stickies, and then detonate them.
 
  
[[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 19:26, 18 January 2015 (PST)
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::Oh, I dunno, [https://wiki.teamfortress.com/w/index.php?title=Soldier_Robot&diff=3568960&oldid=3552448 this], [https://wiki.teamfortress.com/w/index.php?title=Template:Item_set_infobox&diff=3618268&oldid=3565663 this], and [https://wiki.teamfortress.com/w/index.php?title=Ghost&diff=3649086&oldid=3401209 especially] [https://wiki.teamfortress.com/w/index.php?title=Saw_blade&diff=3649104&oldid=3314666 these].
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:: I believe the glitchiness was because it was 30fps, but I rendered it at 60. Either way I think I have fixed everything now. I managed to render at 60fps now without it crashing, so no debug needed... Yet.... [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zLDf5zE5GLY&feature=youtu.be Watch] <span style="font-family:aharoni; font-size:110%; font-style:;font-weight:bold;">[[File:User_Obilisk_Demo1.png]] [[User:Obilisk|<span style="text-decoration:">Obilisk</span>]]</span> 18:22, 24 January 2015 (PST)
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:::On all of these edits you are credited just fine. How did you expect to be credited?<br>[[File:BLU Wiki Cap.png|20px|link=List of Wiki Cap owners]] {{!}} [[Help:Group rights|<span style="color:green;font-family:TF2 Build;">s</span>]] {{!}} [[User:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">GrampaSwood</font>]] [[File:PraisetheSun.png|20px|alt=Praise the Sun!]] ([[User talk:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) ([[Special:Contributions/GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">contribs</font>]]) 16:00, 19 April 2024 (UTC)
:::In the clip with the soldier, the shotgun appears a second too late. Same thing with the shovel. Rest is good — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 17:31, 25 January 2015 (PST)
 
  
=={{icon item|Tide Turner|16px}} [[Tide Turner]]==
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::::Wikicheivments?  I never got another one since [[User talk:Slimyboi500/Arch1#Wikichievement unlocked|November]].  [[User:Mediarch|Mediarch]] is [[User talk:Mediarch#Wikichievement unlocked.21|getting]] [[User talk:Mediarch#Wikichievement Unlocked.21 2|all]] [[User talk:Mediarch#Wikichievement Unlocked.21 3|the]] [[User talk:Mediarch#Wikichievement unlocked.21 4|fame]] [[User talk:Mediarch#C .3E 7|and glory]].  I just don't wanna think I'm the odd one out.
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{{c|Taking damage while shield charging reduces remaining charging time}}
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::::: Slimy, you don't need Wikichievements on a wiki. The point of it is to inform, not be popular. Also, Mediarch has been constantly doing this sort of thing, pretty consistently too. Just look at the recent changes. Besides, your contributions don't warrant most of the stuff Medi has, n' you've already got a decent amount of Wikichieves. — [[User:Payn|payn.]] [[File:Beggar's Bazooka.png|30px|link=User:Payn]] [[User talk:Payn|Talk]] [[File:Speech voice.png|25px|link=User talk:Payn]]  [[Special:Contributions/Payn|Contribs]] [[File:Market Gardener.png|30px|link=Special:Contributions/Payn]] 00:02, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
  
{{c|Kills while charging now only add 75% meter on charge kills instead of 100%}}
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== {{Demo Header|Kritzkrieg}} ==
  
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{{c|Does not show that Kritz Über does not prevent capping or carrying the Intelligence.}}
  
:I can give this one a try, if that's alright with everyone. [[User:Zippy|Zippy]] ([[User talk:Zippy|talk]]) 15:36, 17 January 2015 (PST)
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{{c|Does not show health of patients, overheal is not shown properly.}}
  
:: Alright, I made a [http://youtu.be/EX15XgPFY5k sample video here]. Is this good enough? Please tell me the exact times of the video that need to be improved so I can fix everything in one go. Also, ignore the glitchy artifacts during the transitions. I guarantee you those won't be in the final version of the video. [[User:Zippy|Zippy]] ([[User talk:Zippy|talk]]) 12:07, 19 January 2015 (PST)
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I think I'll take this one! [[User:Greenfox|Greenfox]] ([[User talk:Greenfox|talk]]) 20:51, 22 October 2022 (UTC)
  
::: And before anyone had to say anything, I corrected some mistakes and improved the pacing of the video. [http://youtu.be/5m6Fm37lsvM Here's an even better sample video]. The quality may be on the lower side because it saved some serious time in rendering and uploading. I hope it's good enough. [[User:Zippy|Zippy]] ([[User talk:Zippy|talk]]) 07:31, 20 January 2015 (PST)
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:Please sign your comments using <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>.<br>[[User:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">GrampaSwood</font>]] ([[User talk:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) 20:56, 22 October 2022 (UTC)
::::Two things:
 
* The video needs to be at least 720p
 
* In the backpack view, the "Grenade Launcher" spot shows with the wrong color (the color that would be if you had your cursor over it)
 
  
I think that's it. The rest of the video itself is pretty good — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 17:31, 25 January 2015 (PST)
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sorry! [[User:Greenfox|Greenfox]] ([[User talk:Greenfox|talk]]) 06:27, 23 October 2022 (UTC)
: I have [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zh6uHzB9RlU yet another sample video with 720p this time]. I also have a [http://www.mediafire.com/download/r1p6ov13re11y8o/tide_turner_v3.wmv download link] if you liked the sample video and want the original right away. [[User:Zippy|Zippy]] ([[User talk:Zippy|talk]]) 13:46, 26 January 2015 (PST)
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== Trading demonstration ==
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{{c|Doesn't show the "Requires Steam Guard verification" window}}
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We can make the same Medic and Heavy conversation joke.
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:Alright, it seems that Steam won't allow me to change the Trading window language for some reason, so i'm leaving this to a English-speaker user · [[User:Ashe|Ashe]] ([[User talk:Ashe|talk]]) 04:55, 27 February 2022 (UTC)
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:I don't think we should redo this just for this reason; there may be more UI changes to that process in the future, and it seems unnecessary. — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 00:33, 24 April 2022 (UTC)
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== {{Demo Header|Ullapool Caber}} ==
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*{{c|Does not demonstrate activation on cloaked enemy Spies}}
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*{{c|Does not demonstrate activation on disguised enemy Spies}}
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This video does not need a desperate rework, but it is worth adding some extra stuff here and there. Specifically the cloak and disguise interactions.
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'''Part 1: The Main Gang (Pyro, Soldier, Medic)'''
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#Attack the Pyro with a full caber. Watch the explosion and Demoman saying "Kablooey!" or similar.
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#After landing, kill the Pyro with the now empty caber.
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#Kill the Soldier with consecutive hits of the empty caber.
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#Kill the Medic with consecutive hits of the empty caber.
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#Taunt
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'''Part 2: Blast Radius Tests + Caber Jumping'''
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Do the same as current video's Part 2 except friendly Scout is removed. And some more added too.
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# Approach between an enemy Engineer and an enemy Sniper. '''[Note: Friendly Scout is moved to the next Act]'''
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# Look at both of them while standing still.
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# Look down at the ground and then swing the caber.
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# Crouch, look down, and then swing the caber. Watch the explosion affect the enemy players.
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# Look at the enemy players again.
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# Run to the Resupply room, look at the sign, and enter the room.
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# Touch the Resupply cabinet.
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# Repeat Step 4.
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# Run to the Resupply room and immediately go to the Resupply cabinet and out.
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# Approach a high location (in the current video, it is a bunch of crates)
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# Jump and strike the wall of the high location to get to the top of it.
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'''Part 3: Player Interactions'''
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First part is a single enemy Spy.
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'''Part 3a: Cloaked Spy'''
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# Let the Spy cloak
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# Approach cloaked Spy and attack with the full caber. If the facts are right, an explosion should trigger.
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# Refresh the screen to the next scene...
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There are two players on the side, a friendly Scout and an enemy Spy.
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'''Part 3b: Disguised Spy'''
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# Let the Spy disguise as a friendly Scout.
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# Approach friendly Scout and attack with the full caber. Nothing should happen.
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# Now go to the disguised Spy and repeat Step 3. The difference is that the explosion should trigger.
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'''Part 4: Deployment and Holstering'''
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*Do the same set of actions as the current video, or in any appropriate method.
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<s>[[User:Qwertyxp2000|Qwertyxp2000]] ([[User talk:Qwertyxp2000|talk]]) 02:23, 22 June 2022 (UTC)</s> [[User:Qwertyxp2000|Qwertyxp2000]] ([[User talk:Qwertyxp2000|talk]]) 02:31, 22 June 2022 (UTC)
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:Good list, but agree that this isn't worth redoing if it's only for those extra interactions. — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 21:39, 31 July 2022 (UTC)
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:: [https://drive.google.com/file/d/1UYRHocDtVBJbtYHnGVX6UjG_olg-VjqU/view?usp=sharing Here] is the video, feedback needed!<br>[[User:Cheddar|<font color="#193940">'''Cheddar'''</font>]] • [[User talk:Cheddar|<font color="#193940">'''Talk'''</font>]] 11:03, 4 May 2024 (UTC)
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== [[File:RED Teleporter.png|16px|link=Teleporters]] [[Teleporters]] ==
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{{c|Needs to show the updated metal cost.}}
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== {{Demo Header|Cleaner's Carbine}} ==
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{{Reservation|[[User:Cheddar|<font color="#193940">'''Cheddar'''</font>]] • [[User talk:Cheddar|<font color="#193940">'''Talk'''</font>]] 13:59, 3 May 2024 (UTC)}}<br>
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:{{c|Needs a firing speed comparison to stock, does not show CRIKEY! gain from damaging buildings and disguised Spies.}}
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:: I may need a bit of time to obtain a Cleaner's Carbine for this video. This will be solved once Scrap.TF is working again. [[User:Scorchshotgaming|Scorchshotgaming]] ([[User talk:Scorchshotgaming|talk]]) 06:45, 19 April 2024 (UTC)
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:::[https://drive.google.com/file/d/1snBQbOnOMnNxuKgUzsNOQhNieC8H1t0H/view?usp=sharing Here's] the video, feedback needed! <br>[[User:Cheddar|<font color="#193940">'''Cheddar'''</font>]] • [[User talk:Cheddar|<font color="#193940">'''Talk'''</font>]] 17:51, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
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:::: What about the disguised spies? or did I miss it somewhere in the video? [[User:Mediarch|<font color="ec5c69">'''Mediarch'''</font>]] [[File:User Mediarch PFP.png|25px]][[User:Mediarch|<font color="#ff66cc"> ♥ </font>]][[User talk:Mediarch|<font color="ec5c69">'''Talk'''</font>]][[User:Mediarch|<font color="#ff66cc"> ♥ </font>]][[Special:Contributions/Mediarch|<font color="ec5c69">'''My Edits'''</font>]] 18:11, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
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::::: I forgot <br> [[User:Cheddar|<font color="#193940">'''Cheddar'''</font>]] • [[User talk:Cheddar|<font color="#193940">'''Talk'''</font>]] 18:12, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
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:::::: [https://drive.google.com/file/d/1e88Z5orKHDRcgNKPimVsP5nL5CXdxTlO/view?usp=sharing Here] is a newer version! <br>[[User:Cheddar|<font color="#193940">'''Cheddar'''</font>]] • [[User talk:Cheddar|<font color="#193940">'''Talk'''</font>]] 19:11, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
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:::::::It doesn't show invisible spies also filling crikey · [[User:Ashe|<font color="DB9C1F">Ashe</font>]] ([[User talk:Ashe|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) 16:31, 27 May 2024 (UTC)
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::::::::[https://drive.google.com/file/d/145awNn8X75IyIpVi0LZC43JB1b6myLLb/view?usp=sharing Here] is a newer version!<br>[[User:Cheddar|<font color="#193940">'''Cheddar'''</font>]] • [[User talk:Cheddar|<font color="#193940">'''Talk'''</font>]] 21:50, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
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== {{Demo Header|Maul}}, {{Demo Header|Homewrecker}} ==
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{{c|Does not show damage against players vs stock}}
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{{reservation|[[User:Mediarch|'''Mediarch''']] [[File:User Mediarch PFP.png|25px]][[User:Mediarch|<font color="#ff66cc"> ♥ </font>]][[User talk:Mediarch|'''Talk''']][[User:Mediarch|<font color="#ff66cc"> ♥ </font>]][[Special:Contributions/Mediarch|'''My Edits''']] 17:41, 26 March 2024 (UTC)}}
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[https://drive.google.com/file/d/1RuotuJq4wrNwBO07H-bjgSrtHo1tyhkJ/view?usp=sharing Here's the Maul] [[User:Mediarch|'''Mediarch''']] [[File:User Mediarch PFP.png|25px]][[User:Mediarch|<font color="#ff66cc"> ♥ </font>]][[User talk:Mediarch|'''Talk''']][[User:Mediarch|<font color="#ff66cc"> ♥ </font>]][[Special:Contributions/Mediarch|'''My Edits''']] 00:19, 27 March 2024 (UTC)
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: [https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ihbl2VE57Y-w-wt6Cu28KSL7cOYtDbGJ/view?usp=sharing Here's Maul v2] [[User:Mediarch|'''Mediarch''']] [[File:User Mediarch PFP.png|25px]][[User:Mediarch|<font color="#ff66cc"> ♥ </font>]][[User talk:Mediarch|'''Talk''']][[User:Mediarch|<font color="#ff66cc"> ♥ </font>]][[Special:Contributions/Mediarch|'''My Edits''']] 20:20, 8 April 2024 (UTC)
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[https://drive.google.com/file/d/1YkPdQZhRUCRbBqNM13vzVrjDWE2oLJKL/view?usp=sharing Here's the Homewrecker] [[User:Mediarch|'''Mediarch''']] [[File:User Mediarch PFP.png|25px]][[User:Mediarch|<font color="#ff66cc"> ♥ </font>]][[User talk:Mediarch|'''Talk''']][[User:Mediarch|<font color="#ff66cc"> ♥ </font>]][[Special:Contributions/Mediarch|'''My Edits''']] 00:19, 27 March 2024 (UTC)
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:It seems like the combattext batching was still on, as the damage numbers get added up. You don't have to be named "Friendly Engineer" for the Dispenser clip, it can just be your own name.
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:In the Homewrecker one specifically: Try not to rotate around a target too much when hitting them (this is mostly when hitting the Pyro at the start, where all 3 subsequent hits are from a different angle). Both look good otherwise.<br>[[File:BLU Wiki Cap.png|20px|link=List of Wiki Cap owners]] {{!}} [[Help:Group rights|<span style="color:green;font-family:TF2 Build;">s</span>]] {{!}} [[User:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">GrampaSwood</font>]] [[File:PraisetheSun.png|20px|alt=Praise the Sun!]] ([[User talk:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) ([[Special:Contributions/GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">contribs</font>]]) 20:40, 7 April 2024 (UTC)
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:: [https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Ae8jB8jsbp3Q2oy-BCWPdFtm5R6niPvh/view?usp=sharing Here's Homewrecka v2] [[User:Mediarch|'''Mediarch''']] [[File:User Mediarch PFP.png|25px]][[User:Mediarch|<font color="#ff66cc"> ♥ </font>]][[User talk:Mediarch|'''Talk''']][[User:Mediarch|<font color="#ff66cc"> ♥ </font>]][[Special:Contributions/Mediarch|'''My Edits''']] 20:20, 8 April 2024 (UTC)
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:::Both look good. Thanks · [[User:Ashe|<font color="DB9C1F">Ashe</font>]] ([[User talk:Ashe|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) 16:36, 27 May 2024 (UTC)
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== {{Demo Header|Amputator}} ==
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{{c|Does not show damage against players vs stock}}
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{{Reservation|[[User:Mediarch|<font color="ec5c69">'''Mediarch'''</font>]] [[File:User Mediarch PFP.png|25px]][[User:Mediarch|<font color="#ff66cc"> ♥ </font>]][[User talk:Mediarch|<font color="ec5c69">'''Talk'''</font>]][[User:Mediarch|<font color="#ff66cc"> ♥ </font>]][[Special:Contributions/Mediarch|<font color="ec5c69">'''My Edits'''</font>]] 04:11, 31 May 2024 (UTC)}}
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I recorded most of this but medic's health regen is completely random as far I can tell. I can't get the clips to line up so I can properly demonstrate the increased health regen so I'm removing my reservation for the time being. I might try again some other time to brute force it but it doesn't seem promising [[User:Mediarch|'''Mediarch''']] [[File:User Mediarch PFP.png|25px]][[User:Mediarch|<font color="#ff66cc"> ♥ </font>]][[User talk:Mediarch|'''Talk''']][[User:Mediarch|<font color="#ff66cc"> ♥ </font>]][[Special:Contributions/Mediarch|'''My Edits''']] 18:34, 28 March 2024 (UTC)
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:Not having them be synced up is fine as long as it's clear that the Amputator goes faster.<br>[[File:BLU Wiki Cap.png|20px|link=List of Wiki Cap owners]] {{!}} [[Help:Group rights|<span style="color:green;font-family:TF2 Build;">s</span>]] {{!}} [[User:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">GrampaSwood</font>]] [[File:PraisetheSun.png|20px|alt=Praise the Sun!]] ([[User talk:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) ([[Special:Contributions/GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">contribs</font>]]) 18:55, 28 March 2024 (UTC)
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:: That's not the issue I'm having. It's the part where you're showing that it only regenerates faster while you are actively holding the amputator itself. The original video has a 3-way splitscreen with the left side being Amputator, the middle having the Amputator equipped but switched to hold the medi gun, and the right holding the stock bonesaw. I can't the medi gun side and bonesaw side to sync up so it looks like one of them is slightly faster than the other. One of the two is always slightly faster or slower which makes it really difficult to properly demonstrate that part. Even the actual health you gain each tick is slightly variable from what I can tell. I had 6 different clips and synched them all up and they all finished at different times and would have different health values despite all other variables being equal. All 6 clips started at the same time but all 6 of them have different HP https://imgur.com/3NVTjSG. My only thought for a fix is I could try to cheat and essentially just crop the health bar from one of the clips and paste it onto the other so that way they are perfectly synced up. It'd have to be a seamless edit though which is pretty hard to do. [[User:Mediarch|'''Mediarch''']] [[File:User Mediarch PFP.png|25px]][[User:Mediarch|<font color="#ff66cc"> ♥ </font>]][[User talk:Mediarch|'''Talk''']][[User:Mediarch|<font color="#ff66cc"> ♥ </font>]][[Special:Contributions/Mediarch|'''My Edits''']] 19:15, 28 March 2024 (UTC)
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== {{Demo Header|Direct Hit}} ==
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{{c|Does not show splash damage size compared to stock. No damage comparison to stock. You can airshot a soldier that rocket jumps.}}
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== {{Demo Header|Pomson 6000}} ==
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{{c|October 21, 2016 Patch - Fixed the Pomson 6000 playing the Shotgun reload sound.}}
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== {{Demo Header|Thermal Thruster}} ==
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{{c|Video doesn't show the increased knockback while using the item}}
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This video was created when the rule was just "at least 30 fps". Now, the knockback clips are a bit random and doesn't properly show the actual effect. Maybe the demonstrator can show it by placing a pyro aiming upwards and make it airblast them. The clips would be in badwater roof, the left clip without the thermal just falling off from it and the right clip, jumping with the thermal onto the pyro. · [[User:Ashe|<font color="DB9C1F">Ashe</font>]] ([[User talk:Ashe|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) 17:18, 28 March 2024 (UTC)
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= [[Main Page (Classic)|Team Fortress Classic]] =
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== [[File:TFC Crowbar.PNG|16px]] [[Crowbar (Classic)]] ==
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{{c|Haven't been able to find a proper bot program. Will need another players in order to successfully demonstrate}}
  
 
=Questions and Proposals=
 
=Questions and Proposals=
 
'''Note: This section is for questions and proposals that aren't specific to a single weapon. If you think a demo ought to be remade, then make an entry for it in the [[Team_Fortress_Wiki_talk:Weapon_Demonstration#Need_to_be_redone|Need to be Redone]] section above and it will be dealt with.'''
 
'''Note: This section is for questions and proposals that aren't specific to a single weapon. If you think a demo ought to be remade, then make an entry for it in the [[Team_Fortress_Wiki_talk:Weapon_Demonstration#Need_to_be_redone|Need to be Redone]] section above and it will be dealt with.'''
  
== Backscatter ==
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== [[File:Item icon Voodoo-Cursed Heavy Soul.png|20px|link=Zombie Infection]] [[Zombie Infection]] Zombies ==
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{{c|Zombies have different abillities than normal players}}.
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Hello, I am Slimyboi500.  I will be doing the demostrations for each zombie in Zombie Infection.
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Why, you may ask?  Unlike normal gamemodes, the [[BLU]] team (or in this case, the zombies), have different [[Zombie_Infection#Zombie_abilities|abillities]] than normal:
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*[[Scout]]: Speed Demon
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*[[Soldier]]: Pounce
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*[[Pyro]]: Hellspawn
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*[[Demoman]]: Blast Charge
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*[[Heavy]]: The Tank
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*[[Engineer]]: EMP Grenade
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*[[Medic]]: Heal
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*[[Sniper]]: Spit
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*[[Spy]]: Reveal
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They also have different effects, like different amounts of [[health]] and [[speed]].  The zombies only can use melee attacks however, which makes it harder to kill.
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Let me know if it's a good idea or not.
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----[[User:Slimyboi500|Slimyboi500]] ([[User talk:Slimyboi500|talk]]) [[File:User Slimyboi500 Profile.jpg|25px]] 17:35, 27 October 2023 (UTC)
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:If we're doing this, I think there should be a demonstration made for each gamemode, rather than just Zombie Infection. Although ZI has gotten an introduction video now that shows off the mode pretty well, so I don't believe it is necessary.<br>[[File:BLU Wiki Cap.png|20px|link=List of Wiki Cap owners]] | [[Help:Group rights|<span style="color:green;font-family:TF2 Build;">s</span>]] | [[User:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">GrampaSwood</font>]] [[File:PraisetheSun.png|20px|alt=Praise the Sun!]] ([[User talk:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) ([[Special:Contributions/GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">contribs</font>]]) 17:53, 27 October 2023 (UTC)
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::The introduction is missing a few key details, such as not showing the Soldier or Heavy's abilities.  I feel like it would be a good idea.  Such as like there should be a demo for VSH.
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::----[[User:Slimyboi500|Slimyboi500]] ([[User talk:Slimyboi500|talk]]) [[File:User Slimyboi500 Profile.jpg|25px]] 18:12, 27 October 2023 (UTC)
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:::It doesn't show each ability, but it does overall show the gamemode very well and I think does a sufficient job. Although, again, if we are making demonstrations for this, I think one should be made for each gamemode.<br>[[File:BLU Wiki Cap.png|20px|link=List of Wiki Cap owners]] | [[Help:Group rights|<span style="color:green;font-family:TF2 Build;">s</span>]] | [[User:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">GrampaSwood</font>]] [[File:PraisetheSun.png|20px|alt=Praise the Sun!]] ([[User talk:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) ([[Special:Contributions/GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">contribs</font>]]) 18:18, 27 October 2023 (UTC)
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::::Yes, I think there should be one for each gamemode.
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::::----[[User:Slimyboi500|Slimyboi500]] ([[User talk:Slimyboi500|talk]]) [[File:User Slimyboi500 Profile.jpg|25px]] 19:41, 27 October 2023 (UTC)
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:::::Remember to also indent your signature and to keep your answers above the hidden comment.<br>[[File:BLU Wiki Cap.png|20px|link=List of Wiki Cap owners]] | [[Help:Group rights|<span style="color:green;font-family:TF2 Build;">s</span>]] | [[User:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">GrampaSwood</font>]] [[File:PraisetheSun.png|20px|alt=Praise the Sun!]] ([[User talk:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) ([[Special:Contributions/GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">contribs</font>]]) 19:51, 27 October 2023 (UTC)
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::::::Still, is that a yes on the idea?
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::::::----[[User:Slimyboi500|Slimyboi500]] ([[User talk:Slimyboi500|talk]]) [[File:User Slimyboi500 Profile.jpg|25px]] 20:28, 27 October 2023 (UTC)
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{{Outdent|6}} I'm voting no, but other people might be in favour of it. [[User:Profiteer|Profiteer]] was, for example, so I'm waiting for more input.<br>[[File:BLU Wiki Cap.png|20px|link=List of Wiki Cap owners]] | [[Help:Group rights|<span style="color:green;font-family:TF2 Build;">s</span>]] | [[User:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">GrampaSwood</font>]] [[File:PraisetheSun.png|20px|alt=Praise the Sun!]] ([[User talk:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) ([[Special:Contributions/GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">contribs</font>]]) 20:35, 27 October 2023 (UTC)
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:I vote yes for the Zombie Infection zombies (as well Saxton Hale on VSH), but not for other gamemodes. I consider these zombies kinda like "new weapons". They all have different abilities, passives, first-person views, etc. I'm not quite sure if there needs to be a demonstration regarding the human part (only if demonstrated humans being infected by zombies upon dying), and perhaps the only thing related to humans would be that zombies drop small healthkits (because it's related to them, the zombies). A showcase of each zombie class, its ability, and some human interactions like being infected by them, and, killing them as humans, would probably be a nifty video package. [[File:User Gabrielwoj Signature Icon.png|15px|Headphones style when?|link=User:Gabrielwoj]] - [[File:User Gabrielwoj Signature 1.png|link=User:Gabrielwoj]] ▪ [[File:User Gabrielwoj Signature 2.png|link=Special:Contribs/Gabrielwoj]] - [[File:User Gabrielwoj Signature 3.png|link=User talk:Gabrielwoj]] 22:34, 27 October 2023 (UTC)
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:: I'm all in for ZI and VSH demos, but a significant issue would be future balance patches to the modes. Each balance patch so far has significantly changed the zombies, and if we had already made the demo, we would have to redo the video for each one of these updates, which would result in multiple uploads of the same video over and over again and a lot of work (and given how we can barely keep up with the current demos in the [[#Need_to_be_redone|backlog]]...). Maybe instead of a gamemode demonstration, we could simply do a "zombie class demonstration" ("Zombie Sniper", etc.) and a "mechanics demonstration" (weapon modifications, gamemode-specific elements). This way, if a zombie is changed, we wouldn't have to redo the entire video. — [[User:Tark|<span style="font-weight:bold;color: #5BC236">Tark</span>]] 22:51, 27 October 2023 (UTC)
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::: I will do the demo as soon as I get enough votes for it
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::: ----[[User:Slimyboi500|Slimyboi500]] ([[User talk:Slimyboi500|talk]]) [[File:User Slimyboi500 Profile.jpg|25px]] 18:42, 15 November 2023 (UTC)
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::::Voting yes for the demo, ZI and VSH seems stable...for now at least[[User:Profiteer|Profiteer(奸商)the tryhard]] ([[User talk:Profiteer|talk]]) 11:05, 21 November 2023 (UTC)
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== Flippin' Awesome and Skullcracker in VSH ==
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When Saxton Hale used [[Flippin' Awesome]] or [[Skullcracker]], the other mercenary participating the taunt will be [[VS_Saxton_Hale_Mode#cite_ref-10|taunt killed]], is this something worth remaking the taunt demonstration? Or we just keep the current taunt demonstration, but add this feature into the VSH demonstration? --[[User:AlexT|<span style="background:linear-gradient(#D1EEFC, #81F3FD);border:1px #99F3FD solid;color:#007FFF;border-radius:8px">'''Alex'''</span>]]┋[[User talk:AlexT|<span style="color: #FF6600;">'''T'''</span>]] 18:31, 22 July 2023 (UTC)
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:I think a VSH demonstration would be better, as it may be confusing why Saxton Hale is suddenly there when he's not normally playable.<br>[[File:BLU Wiki Cap.png|20px|link=Wiki Cap]] | [[Help:Group rights|<span style="color:green;font-family:TF2 Build;">s</span>]] | [[User:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">GrampaSwood</font>]] ([[User talk:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) 19:52, 22 July 2023 (UTC)
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::Yes, a demonstration regarding VSH, showing all Hale's abilities, and some unique taunt interactions, would be the most ideal (including his default taunt kill). That one would probably be more lengthy, and some things would probably require to be discussed beforehand. Like Mercs being able to wall climb (which is applied to even stock weaponry), should that be shown too? [[File:User Gabrielwoj Signature Icon.png|15px|Headphones style when?|link=User:Gabrielwoj]] - [[File:User Gabrielwoj Signature 1.png|link=User:Gabrielwoj]] ▪ [[File:User Gabrielwoj Signature 2.png|link=Special:Contribs/Gabrielwoj]] - [[File:User Gabrielwoj Signature 3.png|link=User talk:Gabrielwoj]] 20:31, 22 July 2023 (UTC)
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:::I think maybe a demonstration for every game mode could be in order, as a sort of semi-tutorial created by us. A VSH one would fit that too.<br>[[File:BLU Wiki Cap.png|20px|link=Wiki Cap]] | [[Help:Group rights|<span style="color:green;font-family:TF2 Build;">s</span>]] | [[User:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">GrampaSwood</font>]] ([[User talk:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) 08:33, 23 July 2023 (UTC)
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== Configs for partner taunt demonstrations ==
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I've created some configs for partner taunt demonstrations. It automatically spawns 2 bots, places you in the starting position, and has another small command ("teleport") to input after it to teleport both the bots to the right position. It binds H and J to the bots performing taunts, H = BLU bot does taunt, J = RED bot does taunt. They're all class-specific and automatically kick any other bots there. There's no way (right now) that I know of to update the weaponref.zip, so if anyone needs it I can forward you a zip of the files. Just let me know on my talk page (or if you know of a way to update weaponref).<br>[[File:BLU Wiki Cap.png|20px|link=List of Wiki Cap owners]] | [[Help:Group rights|<span style="color:green;font-family:TF2 Build;">s</span>]] | [[User:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">GrampaSwood</font>]] [[File:PraisetheSun.png|20px|alt=Praise the Sun!]] ([[User talk:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) ([[Special:Contributions/GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">contribs</font>]]) 23:56, 13 November 2023 (UTC)
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== New tr_karma and requirements ==
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I've been working in the past week in fixing some issues tr_karma has and some new guidelines. The changes to tr_karma are:
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* Increased lightmap quality in the interiors
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* Fixed a "checkerboard" texture in the gas cylinder, the ceiling fan and the cardboard boxes
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* Added chat scripts to enable noclip (!n in the chat), regenerate (!r), spawn an ammo pack (!am) and enable demonstration server settings (!demo) (these commands are available also in the new tr_karma_basic.cfg)
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* Fixed the func_buttons in the wood targets only working once, thus displaying the hit particle once
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* Removed Tough Break cases and the Gargoyle prop as they didn't fit the ambience
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* Removed the mining cart prop in the rails due of a lighting issue
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* Repacked the map, reducing the map size from ~91 MB to ~18 MB
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The link to the download and new proposed guidelines are [[User:Ashe/Sandbox2|here]]. Check them out and give feedback · [[User:Ashe|<font color="DB9C1F">Ashe</font>]] ([[User talk:Ashe|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) 16:38, 13 December 2023 (UTC)
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== Issues with tr_krama and tr_krama_event ==
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When I start a local server and load tr_krama/tr_krama_event, it won't load (probably because it doesn't exsit) lights/shadow making the map super bright, this only happens on 2 krama maps, I tried to download a modified version of tr_krama on workshop and it worked perfectly, pretty sure something is missing in the map file from weaponref.zip.[[User:Profiteer|<font color="8470FF">Profiteer]] the tryhard ([[User talk:Profiteer|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Profiteer|contribute]])</font> 05:59, 10 March 2024 (UTC)
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:It works fine on my end.<br>[[File:BLU Wiki Cap.png|20px|link=List of Wiki Cap owners]] {{!}} [[Help:Group rights|<span style="color:green;font-family:TF2 Build;">s</span>]] {{!}} [[User:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">GrampaSwood</font>]] [[File:PraisetheSun.png|20px|alt=Praise the Sun!]] ([[User talk:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) ([[Special:Contributions/GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">contribs</font>]]) 10:11, 10 March 2024 (UTC)
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::Join the IRC to help you @Profiteer · [[User:Ashe|<font color="DB9C1F">Ashe</font>]] ([[User talk:Ashe|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) 21:33, 16 March 2024 (UTC)
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:::@Profiteer do you have HDR enabled? · [[User:Ashe|<font color="DB9C1F">Ashe</font>]] ([[User talk:Ashe|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) 16:50, 23 March 2024 (UTC)
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== Question about 2D and 3D player models ==
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A question I've had for a while about weapon demonstrations is, is there a specific reason that 2D player images in the HUD are standard rather than the 3D player model (be it for performance, consistency, or any other reason), also considering that 3D player models are enabled by default? The 3D model could also generally be more useful for certain cosmetics or demonstrations. [[User:Scorchshotgaming|Scorchshotgaming]] ([[User talk:Scorchshotgaming|talk]]) 16:47, 8 April 2024 (UTC)
  
I would like to make a demonstration for the backscatter, I feel like there should be some love & war weapon demonstrations out by now anyways. I would love to make one. [[User:Zenip19|Zenip19]] ([[User talk:Zenip19|talk]]) 14:37, 11 August 2014 (PDT)
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: they're buggy, eat up frame rate on a lot of systems, and aren't really necessary. I don't think they really add anything of value to the videos so my vote would be to keep them disabled. [[User:Mediarch|'''Mediarch''']] [[File:User Mediarch PFP.png|25px]][[User:Mediarch|<font color="#ff66cc"> </font>]][[User talk:Mediarch|'''Talk''']][[User:Mediarch|<font color="#ff66cc"> </font>]][[Special:Contributions/Mediarch|'''My Edits''']] 16:50, 8 April 2024 (UTC)
:Backscatter demonstraiton is done already, it's in the [[Team_Fortress_Wiki_talk:Weapon_Demonstration/Archive_48|Archive 48.]] [[File:Charger 2.png|20px|]] [[User:Karmacharger|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Karmacharger</span>]] 6:33 AM 8/12/2014 (PDT)
 
::Yeah, we should push soon. Not this weekend though because I just pushed soundtracks. — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 17:42, 17 August 2014 (PDT)
 
  
== Item sets ==
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::As far as I know, there's no real reason that we prefer one over the other. 3D models are enabled by default, but it may have just been something that was done for a while and became the standard.<br>[[File:BLU Wiki Cap.png|20px|link=List of Wiki Cap owners]] {{!}} [[Help:Group rights|<span style="color:green;font-family:TF2 Build;">s</span>]] {{!}} [[User:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">GrampaSwood</font>]] [[File:PraisetheSun.png|20px|alt=Praise the Sun!]] ([[User talk:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) ([[Special:Contributions/GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">contribs</font>]]) 16:57, 8 April 2024 (UTC)
  
I would like to remove all item sets +effect videos from youtube which makes people still think that you get set bonus from wearing these items. Alternate idea: Change the youtube description?  ; Also item set possibilities like reskins should be explained or shown somehow(?). Maybe a 2 screen version:<br><nowiki> <left> | <right></nowiki><br><nowiki><left> = normal set</nowiki><br><nowiki><right></nowiki> = reskin = counts as set also. [[User:Magicalpony|Magicalpony]] ([[User talk:Magicalpony|talk]]) 11:13, 16 August 2014 (PDT)
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:::Fair point, it would obviously be a massive hassle to redo every demonstration with a 2D player model. Also for some people I suppose keeping them off improves framerate. [[User:Scorchshotgaming|Scorchshotgaming]] ([[User talk:Scorchshotgaming|talk]]) 19:59, 8 April 2024 (UTC)
:If there's any video where the backpack view still shows item set effects (the gameplay-affecting ones), then yes those videos need to be redone. I thought we redid them all though? If you see any left, please report them.
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::::I'm pretty sure it's because when they were added to the game, it caused lag to a lot of people. The recent 64 bits update fixed the 3d character using a lot of cpu and now it shouldn't affect fps (although i guess modern pcs didn't have issue with it anyways) · [[User:Ashe|<font color="DB9C1F">Ashe</font>]] ([[User talk:Ashe|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) 15:21, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
:As for your second suggestion, item sets are already demonstrated. Showing all skin possibilities would be a lot of work for little benefit though. — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 17:42, 17 August 2014 (PDT)
 
::More as in the description it is stated. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-TPya7fsaho Set Demonstration: The Expert's Ordnance] desc: Effects: +10% fire damage resistance on wearer ; i only saw this because of looking for the ullapool caber video which was/is private. [[User:Magicalpony|Magicalpony]] ([[User talk:Magicalpony|talk]]) 20:17, 17 August 2014 (PDT)
 
:::Oh, derp. Made is unlisted and added the Ullapool Caber to be to-redo list. It still shows the +10% set effect, but it seems like we forgot to redo it — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 17:15, 22 August 2014 (PDT)
 
  
== Backpack UI ==
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== Mastercomfig question ==
  
In regards to the item demonstrations, it seems that the backpack UI has slightly changed. When hovering your cursor over empty inventory spaces in your backpack it no longer shows the white border around the slot, but rather just makes a clicking noise. I'm not sure if this is a permanent addition to the backpack UI, but should we still make the item demonstrations or wait and see if Valve change it? <span style="font-family:aharoni; font-size:110%; font-style:;font-weight:bold;">[[File:User_Obilisk_Demo1.png]] [[User:Obilisk|<span style="text-decoration:">Obilisk</span>]]</span> 07:02, 8 October 2014 (PDT)
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I am planning to make a demonstration, and the recommended requirements state that Mastercomfig High/Ultra is preferrable. However, I highly doubt my PC is able to run Mastercomfig High/Ultra properly and all the other high graphics settings. Is it acceptable if I use Mastercomfig Medium High and use average graphics settings? May look slightly lower quality than a typical reservation, but I don't think much will be affected. [[User:Scorchshotgaming|Scorchshotgaming]] ([[User talk:Scorchshotgaming|talk]]) 21:44, 18 April 2024 (UTC)
:Even if it's permanent, it's too small of a change to justify redoing everything — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 18:10, 10 October 2014 (PDT)
 
  
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:Ultra is preferable, but setting your game to all max settings should suffice.<br>[[File:BLU Wiki Cap.png|20px|link=List of Wiki Cap owners]] {{!}} [[Help:Group rights|<span style="color:green;font-family:TF2 Build;">s</span>]] {{!}} [[User:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">GrampaSwood</font>]] [[File:PraisetheSun.png|20px|alt=Praise the Sun!]] ([[User talk:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) ([[Special:Contributions/GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">contribs</font>]]) 21:45, 18 April 2024 (UTC)
  
==[[Halloween Spells]]==
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::Well, I'll look through some configurations, and if I find one that looks high enough quality without sacrificing my computer's performance I will use it (my PC is not too high spec, to say the least). My demonstration is for the Cleaner's Carbine; once you review it tell me your thoughts. For me this is especially important because I will need to screen record this too. [[User:Scorchshotgaming|Scorchshotgaming]] ([[User talk:Scorchshotgaming|talk]]) 21:48, 18 April 2024 (UTC)
We need some demonstrations for the Halloween Spell cosmetics dropped from gifts on Ghost Fort. They've been out for three Halloween Events now and it's still very hard to find out how they look. They didn't even have accurate descriptions until today. I tried to post some temporary demonstration videos to encourage official ones to be made, but they were removed immediately. The temporary videos were: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZsZ52KIv0zw Paints], [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g94cLjWJxFg Footprints], [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zu1meRH2QNc Weapon Effects] [[User:Zoshi|Zoshi]] ([[User talk:Zoshi|talk]]) 15:02, 26 October 2014 (PDT)
 
:The problem is that if these get made, then suddenly someone's going to use it as justification for making demonstration videos of unusual hats and whatnot. These are purely cosmetic effects (gameplay not affected) and they're pretty numerous (i.e. long to make and possibly high-maintenance). I don't think it's worth doing. A screenshot would be pretty good though. It's easy to create and, for such items, is just as good as a video. — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 19:59, 27 October 2014 (PDT)
 

Latest revision as of 04:11, 31 May 2024


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Tools

Chemistry Set Chemistry Set

Old discussion (2020)

Hi, just made a vid demonstration about Chemistry kit. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R2uEkaw6Jbs&feature=youtu.be What should i do next? ~ Fokus 03.06.2020 16:50 GMT+2

Hi there,
You now have to wait for WindPower to respond. He usually does this every week on Sundays, though he's very busy nowadays.
My advice on your video is: Don't start in the Main Menu, start in the backpack (first page) instead. Make sure your backpack's page is also clear of other stuff, so when you finished using the chemistry set it doesnt go to the third page and you'll have to drag it from there. Show yourself using the Chemistry Set, too, it's part of its functionality. Your video also seems to have a delay between sound and the video.
It also lacks editing.
GrampaSwood (talk) 15:05, 3 June 2020 (UTC)
> he's very busy nowadays
You give me too much credit. — Wind 05:44, 8 July 2020 (UTC)
Hi, thanks for tips. I fixed the video, now it should be much better. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-fgON6QQ6Mk&feature=youtu.be
Fokuskii (talk) 23:53, 3 June 2020 (UTC)
The same problem applies with the backpack. It should start on the first page (that's empty except for the required items). The section where you hover over the chemistry set is too long, perhaps make it 1 or 2 seconds. The same thing applies to the end, show the strangifier being applied. It also lacks fading (A lot of these things can be fixed with simple editing, but I think the pages thing will have to be done with a new one :\)
GrampaSwood (talk) 13:10, 4 June 2020 (UTC)
The video should also be 1080p (your first version was 1080p but the second version is 720p). Agreed with all other comments — Wind 05:44, 8 July 2020 (UTC)

I have both an alt and a professor speks chemistry set for this demonstration, I just have yet to find the password to the account...
BLU Wiki Cap.png | s | GrampaSwood Praise the Sun! (talk) (contribs) 21:36, 12 November 2023 (UTC)

Hey, was wondering if this was still open? I can do a possible version with a collector chemistry kit but not sure if it matters if it's strangifier or collector's. God'sWrath (talk) 01:15, 16 February 2024 (UTC)

It's still open, although a collector's kit may be too large as it would require showing all 100 items added.
BLU Wiki Cap.png | s | GrampaSwood Praise the Sun! (talk) (contribs) 11:13, 16 February 2024 (UTC)
Ah, alright so what if I show a strangifier first and add a section for the collector's where I only put 1 in but I put disclaimer stating it's x amount of x items and not 1 item for a collector's kit? So video doesn't drag out. God'sWrath (talk) 03:41, 17 February 2024 (UTC)
Just pick a simpler, cheaper chemistry set like in the first video · Ashe (talk) 05:15, 17 February 2024 (UTC)

I've reserved this but I've been thinking it over and I'm not sure if it's really necessary. The Strangifier demonstration shows the exact same process of completing a chemistry set to acquire a strangifier and then applying it to the item. Both demonstrations would bassically be the same. Do we really need two demonstrations showing the exact same thing? Or what should this demonstration do to be different from the Strangifier demonstration? Mediarch User Mediarch PFP.pngTalkMy Edits 22:01, 29 May 2024 (UTC)

Upgrade to Premium Gift Upgrade to Premium Gift

I'm not quite sure if this one is necessary User Karmacharger Charger 2.png Karmacharger 9:12 PM 8/24/2014 (PDT)
Nah, probably not unless someone just happens to run upon that item — Wind 19:59, 27 October 2014 (PDT)

Question: Do I need to show I, person giving the premium gift, receive the professor speks?
GrampaSwood (talk) 11:04, 6 September 2019 (UTC)

Yes, that's part of the item's effects. — Wind 23:39, 8 September 2019 (UTC)

I have brought the premium gift to another account, the only issue is that the professor speks is already on my TF2 account, so I would need a third account to receive the speks (while already having premium). It may take a while longer but if anyone else wants to give a crack at it.
BLU Wiki Cap.png | s | GrampaSwood Praise the Sun! (talk) (contribs) 21:36, 12 November 2023 (UTC)

Something Special For Someone Special Something Special For Someone Special (Tool)

Pictogram wait.png This demonstration has been reserved: Mediarch User Mediarch PFP.pngTalkMy Edits 00:29, 2 May 2024 (UTC)

Old discussion (2019)

Hi. I know this item is quite expensive for someone to make a demonstration, but I was thinking, a video showcasing how the item works (which the purchaser's choose they person), and then, on the same video, showing the chosen player's screen perspective, showing the option to accept the proposal, and after that, showing the notification on the Main Menu for the accepted proposal.
Considering the high cost that would be making this demonstration, I wonder if Valve could gives us a hand and supply one for our demonstrations purposes, as long we delete both rings after doing the full video.
It seems that the process is mostly the same as the Gift Wrap, but I have no idea how are the things when someone receives that Gift. We also lack a proper Gift Wrap video, apparently. User Gabrielwoj Signature Icon.png - User Gabrielwoj Signature 1.pngUser Gabrielwoj Signature 2.png - User Gabrielwoj Signature 3.png 19:26, 16 July 2019 (UTC)

Keep dreaming, valve won't even fix server issues much less give us free items. If you are planning to make a demonstration though, better ask windpower for some super detailed instructions to make sure it's right the first time. Naleksuh (talk) 21:37, 18 July 2019 (UTC)
Well, they have the ability to both give and delete items, it could work? Yes. Will it happen? We don't know. If there's anything we can do, is ask for someone who plans on buying one legitimately and asking them for help. Last time that the item got in 50% off, a lot of people bought one, so. User Gabrielwoj Signature Icon.png - User Gabrielwoj Signature 1.pngUser Gabrielwoj Signature 2.png - User Gabrielwoj Signature 3.png 20:01, 19 July 2019 (UTC)
If you give it some time, I could save up to get it and try to make it.
GrampaSwood (talk) 20:16, 19 July 2019 (UTC)
I offer to give a 50 USD Steam gift card to anyone who has already gotten an item demonstration video approved and uploaded in order to make this demonstration, and then another 50 USD Steam gift card upon video approval. I'm not sure what the price of the item is in other currencies but I'll also match that if possible as long as it's not too much more expensive. Please make sure to record both sides (sender account and receiver account). — Wind 23:00, 21 July 2019 (UTC)
Well, I guess we should start discussing how should it be done. Firstly, I think the Gifter should be named "Scout" and the Recipient be "Miss Pauling". Scout has the Scout avatar (184x184 version from Steam), while Miss Pauling can use this. I think the name could be something along what Scout would say, my suggestion, name it as "You are really frickin' sweet". That'd go nice, eh?
Secondly, I don't know who's going to be the Recipient. Should we create a Steam account just for that, or should we rely with another Video Demonstration Creator to do a collab? User Gabrielwoj Signature Icon.png - User Gabrielwoj Signature 1.pngUser Gabrielwoj Signature 2.png - User Gabrielwoj Signature 3.png 23:55, 21 July 2019 (UTC)

well how about we can hit two birds with one store and do the ring and the Upgrade to Premium Gift from the same two account?, First the two account would demostrate the Upgrade to Premium Gift which the sender should buy it from the store and send to the receiver who don't have premium. them Recycle the same account to do the ring. We could make a story out of it as well from friendship when a user gifted the premium to the other use then after few days they both got engaged via the sender would give the ring. It won't end up a awkward situation. but for this situation we need 4 people to do the ring tho 2 sender reciever, 2 regular tf2 player to recieved the message one in the tf2 main menu and the other while in-gameJomarcenter (talk) 14:27, 28 August 2019 (UTC)
That's a cute story, but let's keep the demonstration to just one item (the ring), not the Upgrade to Premium Gift on top of it. — Wind 22:17, 1 September 2019 (UTC)
I don't know what you're talking about, wind. Story time is clearly more important than the actual video. (but in all seriousness the two accounts would be okay to reuse right?) Naleksuh (talk) 04:52, 4 September 2019 (UTC)
Yeah, sure, it would just be two separate videos — Wind 23:39, 8 September 2019 (UTC)

I kind of thought the role playing names were unnnecessary to begin with, and could also cause confusion as to whether or not those texts always appear in game. But if WP or thed feels that's the best way to do it without commercializing it then oh well for me.
The two steam accounts would be kinda hard to sync up (and would also be a waste of $100), i'm willing to be proposed to if no one else will :) Naleksuh (talk) 01:06, 25 July 2019 (UTC)
No need for roleplaying. It's cool if you want to do it but totally optional. — Wind 06:26, 29 July 2019 (UTC)

Mannpower Powerup King.png Mannpower powerups

Pictogram comment.png Demonstrate all powerups.

Pictogram comment.png Show you can switch to the Grappling Hook under the effects of the Knockout powerup.

Hello, I had a question about preforming/recording this demonstration. Mannpower has a domination mechanic (Not to be confused with dominations), this mechanic works by when a player has many more kills than other players on the enemy team, and so that player gets nerfs on their power ups. I'm guessing I would have to demonstrate this in the video, however I do not know how to activate it. I have not been able to activate this on myself in tr_karma, however even if I did, the player who is dominating does not get the message on their screen showing that they are dominating. The only effects the player who is dominating sees is they are marked for death if they have a power up, and a nerf on that power up for that player. I don't know how I would go about demonstrating the effects of domination mechanic, considering the viewer wouldn't know that being marked for death with a power up means you are dominating. If I were to get the domination mechanic to work, should I just show the class as marked for death, or something else? Andrew360 Edit icon.png Taunt Rancho Relaxo.png 01:51, 12 July 2022 (UTC)

This does sound hard to demonstrate. If you enable third-person mode, do you see the skull icon above the player's head in the 3D world (not on the HUD)? If so, here's a structure that might work:
  • Spawn enough enemies on the map such that you can reach domination status, and still have enough enemies left over to show that the effect isn't about killing *all* other enemies.
  • Start the demonstration in first-person mode.
  • Switch to third-person mode.
  • Kill enough enemies such that domination status appears.
  • Highlight the correlation between the third-person skull icon and the HUD one, for example by zooming in on both at once, or drawing a red box around both or something.

Now you've established that "skull on HUD" = "having killed enough enemies".

Now, demonstrate each powerup one by one. For each powerup, do a split-screen, with the left being non-dominating, and the right being already-in-dominating status. Pick up the powerup on both clips and demonstrate the effect. The skull icon being visible on the clip on the right should be enough of a hint that this is the cause. If not obvious enough, you can draw attention to it at the beginning of the clip, such as by drawing a red box over it or something.

Hope this helps. I suggest doing a test demo with just one or two powerups demonstrated and posting it here first before doing all the work it would take to get this all done for all powerups, as there are a lot. (Perhaps each powerup should have its own video? That's a separate question...)

Wind 21:39, 31 July 2022 (UTC)

I might try my hand at this, but only after I finish my other demonstrations and receive feedback and corrections for them. Po1yb1ank (talk) 23:56, 14 December 2023 (UTC)

Secret Saxton Secret Saxton

Pictogram wait.png This demonstration has been reserved: CheddarTalk 16:07, 27 April 2024 (UTC)
I don't think it's very needed, but since it seems very simple, I can do it · Ashe (talk) 05:13, 16 December 2023 (UTC)

Won't you need another person since they are only delivered to players while playing on a server? Cheddar (talk) 08:18, 16 December 2023 (UTC)
To add on, maybe have it filmed from the perspective of the gift being sent, and have the perspective of the recipient? Cheddar (talk) 08:19, 16 December 2023 (UTC)
I could help with this one, I can do most days after 22:00 CEST Po1yb1ank (talk) 15:29, 16 December 2023 (UTC)
@Po1yb1ank we appreciate your enthusiasm, but before doing this, please complete the KGB video first. I can wait · Ashe (talk) 17:45, 16 December 2023 (UTC)
Sure thing, I've just been trying to edit it and the fist bump videos, expect them both in the coming days. Po1yb1ank (talk) 21:34, 16 December 2023 (UTC)
I might delay doing the KGB taunt until the new year, I was going through the files and all of them have bots dropping the Smissmas presents, so expect the KGB to be completed later than expected. Po1yb1ank (talk) 13:55, 20 December 2023 (UTC)

──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── I'm still up for making this demonstration, I would need a lovely assistant to help out with it. Cheddar (talk) 18:24, 21 January 2024 (UTC)

IF you still need an assist I could help some time just let me know Mediarch (talk) 23:43, 12 March 2024 (UTC)
Yeah still need a hand with it, the only problem is getting a way to join one another because using create server won't make it joinable, I think there some other stuff you gotta do.
CheddarTalk 07:53, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
pretty sure You should be able to use https://na.serveme.tf/ to temporarily rent a server. That's what a lot of the competitive teams use for matches. If that doesn't work I could ask around and know a few people that might have their own servers we could borrow Mediarch (talk) 08:49, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
Here is the demo feedback needed!
CheddarTalk 17:30, 27 April 2024 (UTC)
Here is a newer version!
CheddarTalk 19:51, 28 April 2024 (UTC)
Looks good. Thanks · Ashe (talk) 15:04, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
Here is a newer version!
CheddarTalk 21:39, 29 May 2024 (UTC)

Action

Spellbook Magazine Spellbook Magazine

Pictogram comment.png Demonstrate all Magic spells with the Stock (Normal quality) version equipped.

Pictogram comment.png Maybe include this one on the Magic spells page, other spellbook variants are not needed (Fancy and Diary).
Suggestion: Use tf_test_spellindex to always get a specific spell · Ashe (talk) 21:19, 28 January 2024 (UTC)

Fancy Spellbook Fancy Spellbook

Pictogram comment.png Same as above, with the exception that the particle effects that emit on the hand are different.

Fireproof Secret Diary Fireproof Secret Diary

Pictogram comment.png Same as above, with the exception that the particle effects that emit on the hand are different.

Kritz or Treat Canteen Kritz or Treat Canteen

Heavyhumiliation.png Match outcomes

Pictogram comment.png Current one does not show front, crouching, running, etc, at all angles.

So there's a bit of a problem with showing the other angles with this demonstration, as you can't actually rotate the camera. Despite it being in third person, you cannot change the angle of the camera nor use +left or +right to make only the camera move. Any attempt to move the camera either doesn't work or makes the character move along with the camera. My original plan for this demonstration was the following:

  • Show a split screen with a player on RED team on one screen and player on BLU team on the other screen
    • The RED player would capture the intelligence on 2Fort, and the other screen would show the BLU player in humiliation after they lose
      • This part would repeat for each class
  • It would then cut to tr_karma where I would rotate the camera around the class when they're standing, crouching, running, etc
  • After this I would move on to the next class until all of them are done

However I can't do this because I can't rotate the camera, does anyone have any ideas on how to rotate or have other ideas of how to demonstration and show the different angles?
Andrew360 Edit icon.png Taunt Rancho Relaxo.png 22:47, 6 February 2023 (UTC)

How about just use the RED player to see the BLU humiliation animation. Like:
RED player is the main camera, BLU player is a bot/a smaller pip/split screen in the video
  1. BLU player stands beside the intel point
  2. RED player captures the intel and win the game
  3. BLU player enters humiliation
  4. RED player look at the BLU player
  5. BLU player moves around to show off the humiliation animation.
I feel like this also shows off the concept of "match outcomes", make the whole story connected via one team wins and see another team loses with humiliation animations. Do we have to use tr_karma map for demonstration? Is this demonstration video about "match outcomes" or "humiliation animations"?--AlexT 03:19, 7 February 2023 (UTC)
Simply using thirdperson_mayamode it would be possible to show off these animations from a stationary angle (turning your character rather than camera, although tr_karma/tr_target have no winning objective, so you'd need a different map for it (I suggest Thunder Mountain and standing in first BLU's spawn so it's still somewhat related to the tr_target map, using mp_bonusroundtime to extend the time at the end and just capping the first point).
GrampaSwood (talk) 11:01, 7 February 2023 (UTC)
I'm a bit confused on what you mean on the capping part, as you say to stay in BLU spawn, but also cap the point to win which would make BLU would win and RED would be in humiliation. Do you mean to make the time run out so RED wins instead?
Andrew360 Edit icon.png Taunt Rancho Relaxo.png 23:24, 7 February 2023 (UTC)
Either works. Just any way to make the classes go into the humiliation pose. I personally wouldn't mind it that much if RED was in BLU spawn, but it's up to you.
GrampaSwood (talk) 12:33, 8 February 2023 (UTC)
I went in game to test out thirdperson_mayamode, and it does not work, as for some reason the losing animation isn't considered as in "thirdperson" by the game I think. Does anyone else have any other ideas? Only other way I can think of is using SourceTV, however I don't know how to set that up.
Andrew360 Edit icon.png Taunt Rancho Relaxo.png 01:15, 12 February 2023 (UTC)

Need to be redone

Crusader's Crossbow Crusader's Crossbow

Pictogram comment.png Ubercharge gain rate is reduced in the same way that the Medi Gun's healing (and therefore, Ubercharge build rate) is - it is based on the last time the target was in combat.

Pictogram comment.png Does not show that if you try to heal up an enemy Spy, Über is not built.

Pictogram comment.png Does not show that if you heal an enemy player through a Pyro's reflect, Über is built.

I removed the clip from the previous demonstration when the medic is building his übercharge with the crossbow, the actual changes make it way too long. VideoThedop (talk) 14:44, 11 September 2019 (UTC)

The picture-in-picture clip is too large and covers the center of the main video's vision. So when the heavy/spy turns to see the medic, it just doesn't show up on the screen. Please decrease the size of the picture-in-picture — Wind 00:38, 16 September 2019 (UTC)
Second tryThedop (talk) 06:45, 25 September 2019 (UTC)
The Minigun is still hiding the medic when he's firing... — Wind 00:07, 30 September 2019 (UTC)
*sigh* Thedop's demonstration has been in hiatus for two years. Maybe I can make my own demonstration if Thedop doesn't mind. — Exaskliri (they/them) (talk | contribs) 06:43, 14 April 2022 (UTC)
Demonstration reservations are only valid for 2 weeks. If the reservation tag remains on a video and no action has happened since, you can ignore the reservation and replace it with a reservation of your own. — Wind 00:33, 24 April 2022 (UTC)
Oh, and by the way, don't forget to add a demonstration of healing afterburn (probably the most common type of status effect). Qwertyxp2000 (talk) 23:17, 16 June 2022 (UTC)
Definitely doable for making an entry about using Crossbow at point blank range to both hit enemies and heal teammates. Qwertyxp2000 (talk) 21:06, 25 June 2022 (UTC)

Enforcer Enforcer

Note: Future redos won't have to do as many status effect clips as the previous video. - Thedop 19:11, 20 October 2018 (UTC+1)

Gloves of Running Urgently Gloves of Running Urgently

Pictogram comment.png Show the hidden (?) functionality with Dalakohs Bar/Fishcake.

Pictogram comment.png Have a section dedicated to see if it's faster to run with the GRU at a certain point + eating the Dalokhs vs. not using the GRU.

GRU has a hidden (?) functionality with the chocolate bar which can regenerate all the health lost upon eating. Not shown on the demonstration video, should it be? Video about the functionality. I am also not sure if this should be a thing on the Daloks/Fishcake video or GRU (or both). User Gabrielwoj Signature Icon.png - User Gabrielwoj Signature 1.pngUser Gabrielwoj Signature 2.png - User Gabrielwoj Signature 3.png 14:29, 14 August 2021 (UTC)

It's most likely a glitch and not intended. Yes, it's been out since forever, but so are other glitches out there, and these videos typically don't demonstrate these, in order to avoid a redo in case valve ever fixes them (lol, I know). — Wind 05:03, 17 September 2021 (UTC)

Holiday Punch Holiday Punch

Pictogram comment.png Does not demonstrate that disguised spies do not laugh from Holiday Punch.

Pictogram comment.png Does not demonstrate interaction between cloaked spies and Holiday Punch crits.

I kind of felt Holiday Punch could possibly be redone such that it demonstrates its interaction with cloaked and disguised spies. Qwertyxp2000 (talk) 08:11, 17 March 2020 (UTC)

Not very practical, but sure, if anyone's up for it — Wind 04:11, 24 April 2020 (UTC)
Not sure if I have to create a new section for the Holiday Punch or add information on an already existing one, but there's several things that probably should also be demonstrated:
Pictogram comment.png Demonstrate that enemies underwater doesn't laugh on the back / critical hits, which therefore, they don't receive damage (The map used for demonstrations does not have water, though)
Pictogram comment.png Demonstrate that punching an enemy at the back / doing a critical hit on an enemy that is jumping / is on the air, has no effect, and does no damage
Pictogram comment.png Demonstrate that it's possible to tickle enemies that are being Ubercharged, possibly include both the patient and the Medic being tickled
  • Tickle the patient first, show that it's still in the effects of Uber, and tickle the Medic second, that would probably be more ideal, so it shows that when a Medic is tickled, his target loses the healing / ubercharge
  • Perhaps also demonstrate the Quick-Fix ubercharge, since it mentions it blocks "movement-impairing effects", which isn't the case for the Holiday Punch (I'm pretty sure you can still get tickled with the Quick-Fix uber)
Pictogram comment.png Demonstrate that a Scout with the effects of Bonk! can be tickled
Pictogram comment.png Demonstrate that a Soldier with the Battalion's Backup active, as well his teammates receiving the Backup effect, can still be tickled
A few other ones that I am unsure about:
Pictogram comment.png Demonstrate that it's not possible to tickle robots and giant robots on MVM (I don't think we often make MVM-related stuff on these demonstrations, unless it's an unique mechanic like the Projectile Shield)
Pictogram comment.png Demonstrate that an enemy who is taunting does not get tickled, and that it receives no damage on critical hits Headphones style when? - User Gabrielwoj Signature 1.pngUser Gabrielwoj Signature 2.png - User Gabrielwoj Signature 3.png 04:23, 24 April 2022 (UTC)
The tr_karma_rc1 map has water (see Sydney Sleeper demonstration here). I use that map for demonstrations, as it is preferred (according to the Weapon Demonstration page). — Exaskliri (they/them) (talk | contribs) 09:23, 24 April 2022 (UTC)
No to the Quick-Fix + Bonk + Battalion's Backup things; as the project page states, non-stock item interactions are usually not demonstrated, in order to avoid having a full explosion of weapon interactions to demonstrate. The Quick Fix one also sounds like a bug, so usually that isn't worth demonstrating either because it has marginal utility and may eventually get patched, which would just create more video work later down the line. But all the other points are good to demonstrate, so +1 that a redo is in order for this one — Wind 04:49, 12 May 2022 (UTC)

I have an idea on how the new video might be represented:

Part 1: The Main Gang (Pyro, Soldier, Medic, Spy)

  • Do the same actions as was done in the original video

Part 2: Basic Interactions Do the same actions as was done in the original video, demonstrating Kritzkrieg on Soldier (via friendly Medic) and Jarate on Demoman (via friendly Sniper), plus another for Medic interactions.

Part 2a:

  1. Approach friendly Kritzkrieg Medic, who has full charge
  2. Get charged with the Kritzkrieg buff
  3. Keep punching the enemy Soldier until the buff wears off
  4. Punch again while the buff is off, and keep doing it until the Soldier dies

Part 2b:

  1. Approach friendly Sniper holding Jarate
  2. Let the Sniper throw Jarate at the enemy Demoman
  3. Attack the Demoman normally while he is Jarated
  4. Attack the Demoman from behind while he is Jarated
  5. Kill the Demoman normally again while he is Jarated

Part 2c:

  1. (This is where the new stuff begins) Approach an enemy Medic who is healing a friendly enemy Scout with his Medi Gun
  2. Attack the Scout from the front and behind
  3. Enemy Medic activate Medi Gun invulnerability
  4. Do the same as Step 2 onto Scout except while Übercharged
  5. Do the same as Step 4 except on Medic

Part 3: Versus Mittens Heavy

  1. Approach the enemy Mittens Heavy
  2. Attack the Mittens Heavy with your Holiday Punch. Watch him laugh.
  3. Let the Mittens Heavy attack you with his Holiday Punch. Watch yourself laugh.
  4. Mittens Heavy will swap out Holiday Punch for Minigun.
  5. Attack the Heavy with your Holiday Punch.
  6. Swap your Holiday Punch for the Shotgun
  7. Mittens Heavy will swap out Minigun for Holiday Punch
  8. Let the Mittens Heavy attack you with his Holiday Punch.
  9. (This is where the new stuff begins) Jump, and while mid-air let the Mittens Heavy attack you with his Holiday Punch. There should be no laugh.
  10. Go behind the Mitten Heavy's back
  11. Let the Mittens Heavy jump, and attack the Mittens Heavy with your Holiday Punch. There should be no laugh.

Part 4: Spy Interactions View from the Heavy's and Spy's points of view, with a smaller video on the top-right (or something like that) for the Spy's point of view.

  1. Approach the enemy Spy
  2. Let the enemy Spy cloak
  3. Attack the Spy with your Holiday Punch from behind. There should be no laugh.
  4. Let the enemy Spy uncloak and disguise as any class (maybe the Heavy again)
  5. Attack the Spy with your Holiday Punch from behind. There should be no laugh.

Part 5: Taunts and Water

  1. Let the enemy Engineer taunt from his Shotgun. It should be the one where he dances around.
  2. While the enemy Engineer is taunting, attack him from behind with the Holiday Punch. There should be no laugh.
  3. Repeat Steps 1 and 2 except attack him from the front.
  4. The enemy Engineer runs to the water. Follow him into the water.
  5. Attack him from behind with the Holiday Punch. There should be no laugh.

Part 6: Robots

  1. Approach an enemy Robot, preferably the Holiday Punch Heavy Robot.
  2. Attack him with your Holiday Punch from the front, and then attack him from behind. There should be no laugh.

Qwertyxp2000 (talk) 02:49, 8 June 2022 (UTC) Qwertyxp2000 (talk) 02:51, 8 June 2022 (UTC) Qwertyxp2000 (talk) 10:08, 8 June 2022 (UTC)

Very detailed, nice. — Wind 22:48, 19 June 2022 (UTC)
By the way, I also think that it would be helpful to add a section dedicating to observing a duration comparison for all Schadenfreude taunts. I have a feeling that the length of the taunt has an impact on gameplay of the Holiday Punch. So maybe we could do a section where 9 Holiday Punch Heavies simultaneously attack one of each class, which demonstrates the time it would take to get out of the forced animation. Qwertyxp2000 (talk) 01:41, 22 June 2022 (UTC)
Might be cool if only for the comedy of it all. — Wind 21:39, 31 July 2022 (UTC)
On "Part 4 - Let the enemy Spy uncloak and disguise as any class (maybe the Heavy again)", why not make the Spy disguise as the Heavy, and make sure that the Holiday Punch is active? The Spy won't be able to laugh, but I wonder if you (the player), would laugh. In case that happens, then it would be important to also showcase trying to punch the Spy from behind without having him with the Holiday Punch active. Headphones style when? - User Gabrielwoj Signature 1.pngUser Gabrielwoj Signature 2.png - User Gabrielwoj Signature 3.png 03:19, 18 February 2023 (UTC)
Actually, never mind. For some reason I thought you also laughed with who you just punched that is also wearing the mittens (it commonly happens when both Heavies hold their left clicks after being tickled). But, the Spy wearing the Holiday Punch may be the best scenario here, so it shows that the disguise is not lost (although make sure to show also without the mittens active, and, when the mittens is active for Spy, punch him from the back, then punch him from the front). Headphones style when? - User Gabrielwoj Signature 1.pngUser Gabrielwoj Signature 2.png - User Gabrielwoj Signature 3.png 13:08, 18 February 2023 (UTC)

Original Original

Pictogram wait.png This demonstration has been reserved: MudkipOnYT (talk) 18:23, 5 April 2024 (UTC)

Old Reservation (5th January 2024)

Pictogram comment.png Missing new reload sound I'd say this is an incredibly low priority one, may not even be worth redoing.
GrampaSwood (talk) 11:23, 17 January 2023 (UTC)

I hope I've done this correctly, I am just beginning to get to work setting up to film my demonstration — MudkipOnYT (talk) 18:23, 5 April 2024 (UTC)

Here is the link to my finished demonstration, I noticed other users who uploaded to Google Drive being told by the Moderators that their videos were in 30FPS. This one is at 60FPS, it just doesn't play at 60FPS in the Google Drive embedded player, it must be downloaded. Awaiting feedback! — MudkipOnYT (talk) 12:10, 6 April 2024 (UTC)

In the firing angle demonstrations, wait for about 3 seconds before commencing the firing. The rightwards angle demonstration is a bit too quick. Same with the frontal angle demonstration. Also, for the rocket jumping demonstration, don't wiggle around the screen so much during those idle phases; 1:29-1:31 are quite noticeably obvious. Qwertyxp2000 (talk) 22:03, 22 April 2024 (UTC)

Yeah I notice all of that now, can just go and re-record it at some point, I also interrupted the reload animation at the beginning. - MudkipOnYT (talk) 10:05, 23 April 2024 (UTC)

Power Up Canteen Power Up Canteen

Pictogram comment.png Doesn't show Canteen Specialist upgrades like Battery Canteens demo does

I feel like I can do a demonstration for this one. But my canteen is a crafted version so it has my username on it. Is that acceptable ? Kaezle (talk) 04:21, 25 August 2019 (UTC)

If you right click on it you should be able to remove that. Naleksuh (talk) 06:22, 25 August 2019 (UTC)
I think the stock version (Normal quality) should be used over the Unique one, considering all players have it. User Gabrielwoj Signature Icon.png - User Gabrielwoj Signature 1.pngUser Gabrielwoj Signature 2.png - User Gabrielwoj Signature 3.png 04:23, 14 August 2021 (UTC)

Sandvich Sandvich

Pictogram comment.png Show that a dropped plate doesn't heal

Pictogram wait.png This demonstration has been reserved: Mediarch User Mediarch PFP.pngTalkMy Edits 19:57, 20 May 2024 (UTC)

Hinaomi recommended this, so might as well try it. I would be up to make it if it's a valid reason GrampaSwood (talk) 12:02, 13 September 2019 (UTC)

Not sure I follow. You mean that picking up a dropped plate restocks the sandvich? That's already demonstrated... — Wind 00:38, 16 September 2019 (UTC)
Show that picking up a sandvich that's dropped via mouse2 doesn't heal.
GrampaSwood (talk) 05:30, 16 September 2019 (UTC)
Oh OK, yeah. Might replace the existing pickup from full health then, so that it doesn't make the clip longer. — Wind 04:28, 23 September 2019 (UTC)
Sure. Yes, please replace the existing pickup. — Wind 04:11, 24 April 2020 (UTC)
Just talked on the IRC channel today (log) and GrampaSwood willingly relinquished the reservation for me. I am gonna focus on my reservations first, though. — Exaskliri (they/them) (talk | contribs) 15:54, 18 April 2022 (UTC)

Here's Sandvich demonstration ready for feedback Mediarch User Mediarch PFP.pngTalkMy Edits 19:59, 21 May 2024 (UTC)

Self-Aware Beauty Mark Self-Aware Beauty Mark

Pictogram wait.png This demonstration has been reserved: KingK (talk) 04:16, 6 January 2024 (UTC)

Pictogram comment.png Updated description. (Also handy for putting out a fire)

Pictogram comment.png Extinguish an ally reduces the cooldown by 20%

A funny bug but i think i better waiting for Valve to fix it. - Thedop 10:35, 12 October 2018 (UTC+1)

Hey there, I decided I'd help out on this Hopefully around Jan 8-9 would be where I have everything for this demonstration. KingK (talk) 04:16, 6 January 2024 (UTC)

Alright I got it all right here.

Video - KingK (talk) 03:51, 10 January 2024 (UTC)

Seems like your graphics settings aren't on the max, the windows on tr_karma also seem to be bugged. For the first clip, your kill sound should be turned off. For the second clip, make sure to switch all the bots back to the Shotgun. For the third clip, the clip is quite laggy and the sound suddenly increases halfway through. Fourth clip looks fine, albeit with some quality issues as mentioned before. For the first Spy clip, make sure to wait until he's fully invisible to throw the Jarate on him. Splitting up the cloaked and disguised Spy clip like this is better imo, rather than having it be one clip like the original. In the clip where you extinguish 3 teammates, it's fine to just use a single Heavy for that rather than 3 teammates. Maybe 3 clips at the same time would also be suitable for this: one to show off no extinguish, one to show off 1 extinguish, and one to show off extinguishing 2 teammates. It would show that 1 ally extinguished and 2 allies extinguished equally reduces the cooldown.
Other than that, remember to stand still between each clip. It seems like this was most notable on the clip with you and the Heavy being extinguished. The minimum acceptable video quality would be 1080p 60fps, perhaps recording only at that resolution rather than 4k will help with running the game a bit smoother, as currently some clips are very laggy even on 1080p.
BLU Wiki Cap.png | s | GrampaSwood Praise the Sun! (talk) (contribs) 11:48, 10 January 2024 (UTC)


Aight will get working on it, Thanks Grampa Swood KingK (talk) 11:52, 10 January 2024 (UTC)
Here's the newly updated video
Video
KingK (talk) 15:54, 12 January 2024 (UTC)
The video still looks laggy. It was not recorded at 60 fps. Also your antialiasing settings are still low. Use 4x or 8x.
The video still has some problems. General: You wait too much between clips. When using half/third width clips don't disabled the HUD. I know that sometimes the elements look out of place but that can be fixed by editing the hud. First clip: The jar being misplaced is not your fault, but I think I can send a fix here. Second clip: The demoman should hit his 2 pipes instead of trying to kill the medic with rollers. 4th clip: I think you recorded the clips with normal width. Use half-width. 5th clip: The spy clips are now similar to the mad milk video. That's good, however, don't separate the spy clips. Record the clip in one shot. 6th clip: wait a bit before extinguishing yourself and the heavy. 7th clip: again, don't hide the hud. Final clip: It still shows the match hud bar. You can fix this by reloading the hud using hud_reloadscheme. · Ashe (talk) 22:30, 24 January 2024 (UTC)


Chargin' Targe Chargin' Targe, Tide Turner Tide Turner, and Splendid Screen Splendid Screen

Should these be redone to show that they remove debuffs such as Jarate, bleeding, afterburn, etc.? If so, which effects should I specifically show?
GrampaSwood (talk) 08:31, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

Pictogram tick.png Yes, the effects that should show are just some of them, not all
  • Soaking, Jarate is preferable as it make the screen yellow tint.
  • Fire, simple burn from Flamethrower.
  • Bleeding, from Southern Hospitality?
  • Mark for death, from Fan O'War
I think those are all. User Hinaomi Hinaomi-sig.png Rikka Takanashi (talk) • (contributions) 12:47, 25 June 2020 (UTC)
Yes, that would all be good. — Wind 05:44, 8 July 2020 (UTC)

Quick-Fix Quick-Fix

Old reservation (29 April 2021)

Pictogram comment.png What I've done in addition to the existing one (the timestamp in the parentheses are the old/new ones):

  1. (1:14/1:24) On the first scene demonstrating the Quick-Fix's basic functions, I did the same as the old one, plus damaging myself and the patient Heavy while being Ubered, demonstrating that the Quick-Fix's Uber doesn't reduce incoming damage. I also damaged myself (the Medic) twice instead of once.
  2. (2:09/2:39) When demonstrating the Quick-Fix's heal rate in comparison to the stock Medi Gun, while mostly the same, I used a recently-injured Heavy, so that the heal rate (for each medigun) is at the slowest. I used an offscreen pistol Engineer (hence why the starting HP is 14), teleport commands, and r_cleardecals, so it should look neat.
  3. (2:17/3:01) I demonstrated the knockback immunity from Quick-Fix's Uber the same way, but now there's health and Ubercharge HUD.
  4. (2:56/3:47) I did the "mirror blast jumping" part outdoors, although it might not look neat. I'm sorry.
  5. (3:26/4:17) I demonstrated crit healing (after the recipient doesn't take damage for 10-15 seconds) with the Quick-Fix's Uber in addition to the non-Uber Quick-Fix. Yes, the 3x healing rate Uber stacks with the crit heal.
  6. (3:53/6:56) I redid the "Uber build rate comparison on different HP threshold" because the old one didn't have the Quick-Fix as the second healing beam, hence it doesn't explain if the second healing beam alone would slow down the Quick-Fix's Uber build rate (the Quick-Fix has 125% maximum overheal, lower than the usual Uber build rate penalty at 142.5% overheal).
  7. (4:26/5:06) I demonstrated the Quick-Fix maximum overheal limit and decay rate on Scout vs. Heavy as well as comparing it to the stock Medi Gun's overheal in addition to the "maintain overheal above 125%" that the old video demonstrated. For the last part, I only used one Heavy, as the aforementioned added demonstrations make up for that, and I maintained the overheal above and below 142.5% overheal (Uber build rate comparison) as well as healing the Heavy when the overheal goes down below 125%.
  8. (4:46/8:32) For the "healing disguised Spy" part, I have two enemy bots (Heavy and Demoman) so that the Spy doesn't disguise as a Demoman named "Medic". Both bots are injured, so my disguise will be healed, too.

Pictogram comment.png The new ones (the timestamps refer to the new demonstration):

  1. (7:39) Demonstrating stock Medi Gun's Uber vs. Quick-Fix's Uber (the latter doesn't reduce incoming damage, but prevents incoming knockback unlike the former) and the fact that they have same duration (barring the stock's lingering effect). Also has Quick-Fix's Uber without incoming rockets to demonstrate that the duration is the same.
  2. (7:58) Ubering multiple teammates at the same time drain faster than Ubering a single teammate alone. Also, only the aforementioned Ubering multiple teammates drains Uber faster; Ubering an injured teammate drains at the same rate as Ubering a healthy teammate (fully overhealed) and not healing someone when Ubered.


I did the "Uber draining when dropped" part, but both mediguns show "Dropped by Exaskliri." Is it allowed? I gave the bot the Quick-Fix via bot_mirror command. https://youtu.be/0ZlwvHZrjdU Exaskliri (talk) 04:27, 30 April 2021 (UTC)
Nothing you can do about that, that's just how it shows. Shouldn't be too noticeable and there's no point in going through the trouble of setting up a server and getting a buddy to join only so it doesn't show. Though the confusion on where the quick-fix actually is should be redone so it doesn't look like you are looking for it.
GrampaSwood (talk) 10:37, 30 April 2021 (UTC)
  1. I just did the "mirroring the explosive jump" part, though I don't think it looks neat. Is it OK? https://youtu.be/NQo1iTxQSEA Exaskliri (talk) 03:31, 3 May 2021 (UTC)
  2. Just finished the whole demonstration. I just need to attach the segments. Exaskliri (talk) 15:15, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
  3. Just finished uploading re-uploading the new Quick-Fix demonstration video to YouTube and MediaFire.
  1. https://youtu.be/hj5FuFVFV2U
  2. https://www.mediafire.com/file/kx7kbaik5vwpwyj/Quick-Fix_Weapon_Demonstration_Video.mp4/file
Exaskliri (talk) 08:08, 6 May 2021 (UTC)
I don't see any problems, except for the the explosive jumps scenes, that looks a bit laggy, and in general the quality, that seems to be more like a rendering issue, though shouldn't be a problem · Ashe (talk) 04:40, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
I'm fixing the video right now (quieting projector sound, incorrect fade out time, etc.). Gotta reupload soon. Exaskliri (talk) 10:39, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
Just uploaded the fixed version of the Quick-Fix demonstration video. Exaskliri (talk) 13:01, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
This is spectacular work, thanks a lot! Just two comments, none of which should require a lot of work to fix hopefully:
  • Video quality also seems to have the same artifacts as the Winger demonstration. Please increase the bitrate. Unlike the Winger demonstration, I understand that a demonstration this long could take forever and use a lot of bandwidth to upload twice (to YouTube and to MediaFire), so if the video quality is approved for the Winger demonstration is good enough and you've used the same settings for re-rendering this demonstration, feel free to just upload the higher-quality Quick Fix demonstration to MediaFire only, in order to avoid having to upload the huge file twice.
  • There is an audio/video glitch at 9:56 - 9:57.

Wind 05:46, 10 May 2021 (UTC)

You finally responded! Thank you so much. The video/audio glitch is from the .dem recording, so I had to conduct another play, especially since it involves another player. Exaskliri (talk) 15:12, 10 May 2021 (UTC)
Alright. Can you upload the new version? — Wind 04:40, 1 June 2021 (UTC)

Blutsauger Blutsauger

Pictogram wait.png This demonstration has been reserved: Mediarch User Mediarch PFP.pngTalkMy Edits 10:42, 12 May 2024 (UTC)

Old discussion (2021)

Update on this. Video seems to require multiple people. Wasn't able to find anyone else to help me. If you want to help me record this please ping me. Naleksuh (talk) 19:53, 21 December 2021 (UTC)

Here's the Blutsauger demonstration ready for feedback. Shows the updated description and I also included a clip to show that you don't gain health from buildings. Mediarch User Mediarch PFP.pngTalkMy Edits 19:28, 13 May 2024 (UTC)

The demo also needs to show that the effect is pasive, so you have to include a clip where the medic receives damage with the blutsauger and the medigun/bonesaw deployed · Ashe (talk) 04:25, 27 May 2024 (UTC)
Here's version two with a clip showing the effect is passive Mediarch User Mediarch PFP.pngTalkMy Edits 01:58, 28 May 2024 (UTC)

Eyelander Eyelander, Nessie's Nine Iron Nessie's Nine Iron, Horseless Headless Horsemann's Headtaker Horseless Headless Horsemann's Headtaker, and Half-Zatoichi Half-Zatoichi

Pictogram comment.png Show slower deploy and holster comparision.

The other swords shows the comparision except for the above ones. ThunderRunner (talk) 08:54, 18 December 2021 (UTC)

Pictogram wait.png This demonstration has been reserved: ----User Slimyboi500 Logo.png User Slimyboi500 Profile.jpg Talk Speech voice.png Contribs Wrench IMG.png Steam Steam tray.png 04:32, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

I think I am capable of doing demonstrations again. As someone on the wiki that doesn't get credited for shit, I think these might upper my reputation.
----User Slimyboi500 Logo.png User Slimyboi500 Profile.jpg Talk Speech voice.png Contribs Wrench IMG.png Steam Steam tray.png 04:32, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

What edits/contributions have you made that you did not get credited for?
BLU Wiki Cap.png | s | GrampaSwood Praise the Sun! (talk) (contribs) 05:13, 19 April 2024 (UTC)
Oh, I dunno, this, this, and especially these.
----User Slimyboi500 Logo.png User Slimyboi500 Profile.jpg Talk Speech voice.png Contribs Wrench IMG.png Steam Steam tray.png 15:57, 19 April 2024 (UTC)
On all of these edits you are credited just fine. How did you expect to be credited?
BLU Wiki Cap.png | s | GrampaSwood Praise the Sun! (talk) (contribs) 16:00, 19 April 2024 (UTC)
Wikicheivments? I never got another one since November. Mediarch is getting all the fame and glory. I just don't wanna think I'm the odd one out.
----User Slimyboi500 Logo.png User Slimyboi500 Profile.jpg Talk Speech voice.png Contribs Wrench IMG.png Steam Steam tray.png 16:15, 19 April 2024 (UTC)
Slimy, you don't need Wikichievements on a wiki. The point of it is to inform, not be popular. Also, Mediarch has been constantly doing this sort of thing, pretty consistently too. Just look at the recent changes. Besides, your contributions don't warrant most of the stuff Medi has, n' you've already got a decent amount of Wikichieves. — payn. Beggar's Bazooka.png Talk Speech voice.png Contribs Market Gardener.png 00:02, 13 May 2024 (UTC)

Kritzkrieg Kritzkrieg

Pictogram comment.png Does not show that Kritz Über does not prevent capping or carrying the Intelligence.

Pictogram comment.png Does not show health of patients, overheal is not shown properly.

I think I'll take this one! Greenfox (talk) 20:51, 22 October 2022 (UTC)

Please sign your comments using ~~~~.
GrampaSwood (talk) 20:56, 22 October 2022 (UTC)

sorry! Greenfox (talk) 06:27, 23 October 2022 (UTC)

Trading demonstration

Pictogram comment.png Doesn't show the "Requires Steam Guard verification" window

We can make the same Medic and Heavy conversation joke.

Alright, it seems that Steam won't allow me to change the Trading window language for some reason, so i'm leaving this to a English-speaker user · Ashe (talk) 04:55, 27 February 2022 (UTC)
I don't think we should redo this just for this reason; there may be more UI changes to that process in the future, and it seems unnecessary. — Wind 00:33, 24 April 2022 (UTC)

Ullapool Caber Ullapool Caber

Pictogram wait.png This demonstration has been reserved: CheddarTalk 11:04, 20 April 2024 (UTC)

  • Pictogram comment.png Does not demonstrate activation on cloaked enemy Spies
  • Pictogram comment.png Does not demonstrate activation on disguised enemy Spies

This video does not need a desperate rework, but it is worth adding some extra stuff here and there. Specifically the cloak and disguise interactions.

Part 1: The Main Gang (Pyro, Soldier, Medic)

  1. Attack the Pyro with a full caber. Watch the explosion and Demoman saying "Kablooey!" or similar.
  2. After landing, kill the Pyro with the now empty caber.
  3. Kill the Soldier with consecutive hits of the empty caber.
  4. Kill the Medic with consecutive hits of the empty caber.
  5. Taunt

Part 2: Blast Radius Tests + Caber Jumping

Do the same as current video's Part 2 except friendly Scout is removed. And some more added too.

  1. Approach between an enemy Engineer and an enemy Sniper. [Note: Friendly Scout is moved to the next Act]
  2. Look at both of them while standing still.
  3. Look down at the ground and then swing the caber.
  4. Crouch, look down, and then swing the caber. Watch the explosion affect the enemy players.
  5. Look at the enemy players again.
  6. Run to the Resupply room, look at the sign, and enter the room.
  7. Touch the Resupply cabinet.
  8. Repeat Step 4.
  9. Run to the Resupply room and immediately go to the Resupply cabinet and out.
  10. Approach a high location (in the current video, it is a bunch of crates)
  11. Jump and strike the wall of the high location to get to the top of it.

Part 3: Player Interactions

First part is a single enemy Spy.

Part 3a: Cloaked Spy

  1. Let the Spy cloak
  2. Approach cloaked Spy and attack with the full caber. If the facts are right, an explosion should trigger.
  3. Refresh the screen to the next scene...

There are two players on the side, a friendly Scout and an enemy Spy.

Part 3b: Disguised Spy

  1. Let the Spy disguise as a friendly Scout.
  2. Approach friendly Scout and attack with the full caber. Nothing should happen.
  3. Now go to the disguised Spy and repeat Step 3. The difference is that the explosion should trigger.

Part 4: Deployment and Holstering

  • Do the same set of actions as the current video, or in any appropriate method.

Qwertyxp2000 (talk) 02:23, 22 June 2022 (UTC) Qwertyxp2000 (talk) 02:31, 22 June 2022 (UTC)

Good list, but agree that this isn't worth redoing if it's only for those extra interactions. — Wind 21:39, 31 July 2022 (UTC)
Here is the video, feedback needed!
CheddarTalk 11:03, 4 May 2024 (UTC)

RED Teleporter.png Teleporters

Pictogram comment.png Needs to show the updated metal cost.

Cleaner's Carbine Cleaner's Carbine

Pictogram wait.png This demonstration has been reserved: CheddarTalk 13:59, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

Pictogram comment.png Needs a firing speed comparison to stock, does not show CRIKEY! gain from damaging buildings and disguised Spies.
I may need a bit of time to obtain a Cleaner's Carbine for this video. This will be solved once Scrap.TF is working again. Scorchshotgaming (talk) 06:45, 19 April 2024 (UTC)
Here's the video, feedback needed!
CheddarTalk 17:51, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
What about the disguised spies? or did I miss it somewhere in the video? Mediarch User Mediarch PFP.pngTalkMy Edits 18:11, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
I forgot
CheddarTalk 18:12, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
Here is a newer version!
CheddarTalk 19:11, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
It doesn't show invisible spies also filling crikey · Ashe (talk) 16:31, 27 May 2024 (UTC)
Here is a newer version!
CheddarTalk 21:50, 29 May 2024 (UTC)

Maul Maul, Homewrecker Homewrecker

Pictogram comment.png Does not show damage against players vs stock

Pictogram wait.png This demonstration has been reserved: Mediarch User Mediarch PFP.pngTalkMy Edits 17:41, 26 March 2024 (UTC)

Here's the Maul Mediarch User Mediarch PFP.pngTalkMy Edits 00:19, 27 March 2024 (UTC)

Here's Maul v2 Mediarch User Mediarch PFP.pngTalkMy Edits 20:20, 8 April 2024 (UTC)

Here's the Homewrecker Mediarch User Mediarch PFP.pngTalkMy Edits 00:19, 27 March 2024 (UTC)

It seems like the combattext batching was still on, as the damage numbers get added up. You don't have to be named "Friendly Engineer" for the Dispenser clip, it can just be your own name.
In the Homewrecker one specifically: Try not to rotate around a target too much when hitting them (this is mostly when hitting the Pyro at the start, where all 3 subsequent hits are from a different angle). Both look good otherwise.
BLU Wiki Cap.png | s | GrampaSwood Praise the Sun! (talk) (contribs) 20:40, 7 April 2024 (UTC)
Here's Homewrecka v2 Mediarch User Mediarch PFP.pngTalkMy Edits 20:20, 8 April 2024 (UTC)
Both look good. Thanks · Ashe (talk) 16:36, 27 May 2024 (UTC)

Amputator Amputator

Pictogram comment.png Does not show damage against players vs stock

Pictogram wait.png This demonstration has been reserved: Mediarch User Mediarch PFP.pngTalkMy Edits 04:11, 31 May 2024 (UTC)

I recorded most of this but medic's health regen is completely random as far I can tell. I can't get the clips to line up so I can properly demonstrate the increased health regen so I'm removing my reservation for the time being. I might try again some other time to brute force it but it doesn't seem promising Mediarch User Mediarch PFP.pngTalkMy Edits 18:34, 28 March 2024 (UTC)

Not having them be synced up is fine as long as it's clear that the Amputator goes faster.
BLU Wiki Cap.png | s | GrampaSwood Praise the Sun! (talk) (contribs) 18:55, 28 March 2024 (UTC)
That's not the issue I'm having. It's the part where you're showing that it only regenerates faster while you are actively holding the amputator itself. The original video has a 3-way splitscreen with the left side being Amputator, the middle having the Amputator equipped but switched to hold the medi gun, and the right holding the stock bonesaw. I can't the medi gun side and bonesaw side to sync up so it looks like one of them is slightly faster than the other. One of the two is always slightly faster or slower which makes it really difficult to properly demonstrate that part. Even the actual health you gain each tick is slightly variable from what I can tell. I had 6 different clips and synched them all up and they all finished at different times and would have different health values despite all other variables being equal. All 6 clips started at the same time but all 6 of them have different HP https://imgur.com/3NVTjSG. My only thought for a fix is I could try to cheat and essentially just crop the health bar from one of the clips and paste it onto the other so that way they are perfectly synced up. It'd have to be a seamless edit though which is pretty hard to do. Mediarch User Mediarch PFP.pngTalkMy Edits 19:15, 28 March 2024 (UTC)

Direct Hit Direct Hit

Pictogram comment.png Does not show splash damage size compared to stock. No damage comparison to stock. You can airshot a soldier that rocket jumps.

Pomson 6000 Pomson 6000

Pictogram comment.png October 21, 2016 Patch - Fixed the Pomson 6000 playing the Shotgun reload sound.

Thermal Thruster Thermal Thruster

Pictogram comment.png Video doesn't show the increased knockback while using the item This video was created when the rule was just "at least 30 fps". Now, the knockback clips are a bit random and doesn't properly show the actual effect. Maybe the demonstrator can show it by placing a pyro aiming upwards and make it airblast them. The clips would be in badwater roof, the left clip without the thermal just falling off from it and the right clip, jumping with the thermal onto the pyro. · Ashe (talk) 17:18, 28 March 2024 (UTC)

Team Fortress Classic

TFC Crowbar.PNG Crowbar (Classic)

Pictogram comment.png Haven't been able to find a proper bot program. Will need another players in order to successfully demonstrate

Questions and Proposals

Note: This section is for questions and proposals that aren't specific to a single weapon. If you think a demo ought to be remade, then make an entry for it in the Need to be Redone section above and it will be dealt with.

Item icon Voodoo-Cursed Heavy Soul.png Zombie Infection Zombies

Pictogram comment.png Zombies have different abillities than normal players.

Hello, I am Slimyboi500. I will be doing the demostrations for each zombie in Zombie Infection.

Why, you may ask? Unlike normal gamemodes, the BLU team (or in this case, the zombies), have different abillities than normal:

They also have different effects, like different amounts of health and speed. The zombies only can use melee attacks however, which makes it harder to kill.

Let me know if it's a good idea or not.


Slimyboi500 (talk) User Slimyboi500 Profile.jpg 17:35, 27 October 2023 (UTC)

If we're doing this, I think there should be a demonstration made for each gamemode, rather than just Zombie Infection. Although ZI has gotten an introduction video now that shows off the mode pretty well, so I don't believe it is necessary.
BLU Wiki Cap.png | s | GrampaSwood Praise the Sun! (talk) (contribs) 17:53, 27 October 2023 (UTC)
The introduction is missing a few key details, such as not showing the Soldier or Heavy's abilities. I feel like it would be a good idea. Such as like there should be a demo for VSH.
----Slimyboi500 (talk) User Slimyboi500 Profile.jpg 18:12, 27 October 2023 (UTC)
It doesn't show each ability, but it does overall show the gamemode very well and I think does a sufficient job. Although, again, if we are making demonstrations for this, I think one should be made for each gamemode.
BLU Wiki Cap.png | s | GrampaSwood Praise the Sun! (talk) (contribs) 18:18, 27 October 2023 (UTC)
Yes, I think there should be one for each gamemode.
----Slimyboi500 (talk) User Slimyboi500 Profile.jpg 19:41, 27 October 2023 (UTC)
Remember to also indent your signature and to keep your answers above the hidden comment.
BLU Wiki Cap.png | s | GrampaSwood Praise the Sun! (talk) (contribs) 19:51, 27 October 2023 (UTC)
Still, is that a yes on the idea?
----Slimyboi500 (talk) User Slimyboi500 Profile.jpg 20:28, 27 October 2023 (UTC)

──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── I'm voting no, but other people might be in favour of it. Profiteer was, for example, so I'm waiting for more input.
BLU Wiki Cap.png | s | GrampaSwood Praise the Sun! (talk) (contribs) 20:35, 27 October 2023 (UTC)

I vote yes for the Zombie Infection zombies (as well Saxton Hale on VSH), but not for other gamemodes. I consider these zombies kinda like "new weapons". They all have different abilities, passives, first-person views, etc. I'm not quite sure if there needs to be a demonstration regarding the human part (only if demonstrated humans being infected by zombies upon dying), and perhaps the only thing related to humans would be that zombies drop small healthkits (because it's related to them, the zombies). A showcase of each zombie class, its ability, and some human interactions like being infected by them, and, killing them as humans, would probably be a nifty video package. Headphones style when? - User Gabrielwoj Signature 1.pngUser Gabrielwoj Signature 2.png - User Gabrielwoj Signature 3.png 22:34, 27 October 2023 (UTC)
I'm all in for ZI and VSH demos, but a significant issue would be future balance patches to the modes. Each balance patch so far has significantly changed the zombies, and if we had already made the demo, we would have to redo the video for each one of these updates, which would result in multiple uploads of the same video over and over again and a lot of work (and given how we can barely keep up with the current demos in the backlog...). Maybe instead of a gamemode demonstration, we could simply do a "zombie class demonstration" ("Zombie Sniper", etc.) and a "mechanics demonstration" (weapon modifications, gamemode-specific elements). This way, if a zombie is changed, we wouldn't have to redo the entire video. — Tark 22:51, 27 October 2023 (UTC)
I will do the demo as soon as I get enough votes for it
----Slimyboi500 (talk) User Slimyboi500 Profile.jpg 18:42, 15 November 2023 (UTC)
Voting yes for the demo, ZI and VSH seems stable...for now at leastProfiteer(奸商)the tryhard (talk) 11:05, 21 November 2023 (UTC)

Flippin' Awesome and Skullcracker in VSH

When Saxton Hale used Flippin' Awesome or Skullcracker, the other mercenary participating the taunt will be taunt killed, is this something worth remaking the taunt demonstration? Or we just keep the current taunt demonstration, but add this feature into the VSH demonstration? --AlexT 18:31, 22 July 2023 (UTC)

I think a VSH demonstration would be better, as it may be confusing why Saxton Hale is suddenly there when he's not normally playable.
BLU Wiki Cap.png | s | GrampaSwood (talk) 19:52, 22 July 2023 (UTC)
Yes, a demonstration regarding VSH, showing all Hale's abilities, and some unique taunt interactions, would be the most ideal (including his default taunt kill). That one would probably be more lengthy, and some things would probably require to be discussed beforehand. Like Mercs being able to wall climb (which is applied to even stock weaponry), should that be shown too? Headphones style when? - User Gabrielwoj Signature 1.pngUser Gabrielwoj Signature 2.png - User Gabrielwoj Signature 3.png 20:31, 22 July 2023 (UTC)
I think maybe a demonstration for every game mode could be in order, as a sort of semi-tutorial created by us. A VSH one would fit that too.
BLU Wiki Cap.png | s | GrampaSwood (talk) 08:33, 23 July 2023 (UTC)

Configs for partner taunt demonstrations

I've created some configs for partner taunt demonstrations. It automatically spawns 2 bots, places you in the starting position, and has another small command ("teleport") to input after it to teleport both the bots to the right position. It binds H and J to the bots performing taunts, H = BLU bot does taunt, J = RED bot does taunt. They're all class-specific and automatically kick any other bots there. There's no way (right now) that I know of to update the weaponref.zip, so if anyone needs it I can forward you a zip of the files. Just let me know on my talk page (or if you know of a way to update weaponref).
BLU Wiki Cap.png | s | GrampaSwood Praise the Sun! (talk) (contribs) 23:56, 13 November 2023 (UTC)

New tr_karma and requirements

I've been working in the past week in fixing some issues tr_karma has and some new guidelines. The changes to tr_karma are:

  • Increased lightmap quality in the interiors
  • Fixed a "checkerboard" texture in the gas cylinder, the ceiling fan and the cardboard boxes
  • Added chat scripts to enable noclip (!n in the chat), regenerate (!r), spawn an ammo pack (!am) and enable demonstration server settings (!demo) (these commands are available also in the new tr_karma_basic.cfg)
  • Fixed the func_buttons in the wood targets only working once, thus displaying the hit particle once
  • Removed Tough Break cases and the Gargoyle prop as they didn't fit the ambience
  • Removed the mining cart prop in the rails due of a lighting issue
  • Repacked the map, reducing the map size from ~91 MB to ~18 MB

The link to the download and new proposed guidelines are here. Check them out and give feedback · Ashe (talk) 16:38, 13 December 2023 (UTC)

Issues with tr_krama and tr_krama_event

When I start a local server and load tr_krama/tr_krama_event, it won't load (probably because it doesn't exsit) lights/shadow making the map super bright, this only happens on 2 krama maps, I tried to download a modified version of tr_krama on workshop and it worked perfectly, pretty sure something is missing in the map file from weaponref.zip.Profiteer the tryhard (talk|contribute) 05:59, 10 March 2024 (UTC)

It works fine on my end.
BLU Wiki Cap.png | s | GrampaSwood Praise the Sun! (talk) (contribs) 10:11, 10 March 2024 (UTC)
Join the IRC to help you @Profiteer · Ashe (talk) 21:33, 16 March 2024 (UTC)
@Profiteer do you have HDR enabled? · Ashe (talk) 16:50, 23 March 2024 (UTC)

Question about 2D and 3D player models

A question I've had for a while about weapon demonstrations is, is there a specific reason that 2D player images in the HUD are standard rather than the 3D player model (be it for performance, consistency, or any other reason), also considering that 3D player models are enabled by default? The 3D model could also generally be more useful for certain cosmetics or demonstrations. Scorchshotgaming (talk) 16:47, 8 April 2024 (UTC)

they're buggy, eat up frame rate on a lot of systems, and aren't really necessary. I don't think they really add anything of value to the videos so my vote would be to keep them disabled. Mediarch User Mediarch PFP.pngTalkMy Edits 16:50, 8 April 2024 (UTC)
As far as I know, there's no real reason that we prefer one over the other. 3D models are enabled by default, but it may have just been something that was done for a while and became the standard.
BLU Wiki Cap.png | s | GrampaSwood Praise the Sun! (talk) (contribs) 16:57, 8 April 2024 (UTC)
Fair point, it would obviously be a massive hassle to redo every demonstration with a 2D player model. Also for some people I suppose keeping them off improves framerate. Scorchshotgaming (talk) 19:59, 8 April 2024 (UTC)
I'm pretty sure it's because when they were added to the game, it caused lag to a lot of people. The recent 64 bits update fixed the 3d character using a lot of cpu and now it shouldn't affect fps (although i guess modern pcs didn't have issue with it anyways) · Ashe (talk) 15:21, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

Mastercomfig question

I am planning to make a demonstration, and the recommended requirements state that Mastercomfig High/Ultra is preferrable. However, I highly doubt my PC is able to run Mastercomfig High/Ultra properly and all the other high graphics settings. Is it acceptable if I use Mastercomfig Medium High and use average graphics settings? May look slightly lower quality than a typical reservation, but I don't think much will be affected. Scorchshotgaming (talk) 21:44, 18 April 2024 (UTC)

Ultra is preferable, but setting your game to all max settings should suffice.
BLU Wiki Cap.png | s | GrampaSwood Praise the Sun! (talk) (contribs) 21:45, 18 April 2024 (UTC)
Well, I'll look through some configurations, and if I find one that looks high enough quality without sacrificing my computer's performance I will use it (my PC is not too high spec, to say the least). My demonstration is for the Cleaner's Carbine; once you review it tell me your thoughts. For me this is especially important because I will need to screen record this too. Scorchshotgaming (talk) 21:48, 18 April 2024 (UTC)