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:I've got a legit one, I'll give it a shot. :) [[User:Scoot-teh-Destroyer|Scoot-teh-Destroyer]] ([[User talk:Scoot-teh-Destroyer|talk]]) 22:32, 7 October 2015 (PDT)
 
:: Good to hear! I'd suggest making sure the loadout view shows that the item is tradable, I think currently all of the new reskins are marked with a "untradable" tag. <span style="font-family:aharoni; font-size:110%; font-style:;font-weight:bold;">[[File:User_Obilisk_Demo1.png]] [[User:Obilisk|<span style="text-decoration:">Obilisk</span>]]</span> 23:23, 7 October 2015 (PDT)
 
::: Yeah, the Bat's currently untradeable since I got those crates from the Comm. Market. I'll deal with that part last. [[User:Scoot-teh-Destroyer|Scoot-teh-Destroyer]] ([[User talk:Scoot-teh-Destroyer|talk]]) 04:06, 8 October 2015 (PDT)
 
::::Gonna do a test render soon. What should I do for the Bat's inspect animation? It's currently bugged but they'll eventually patch it of course. [[User:Scoot-teh-Destroyer|Scoot-teh-Destroyer]] ([[User talk:Scoot-teh-Destroyer|talk]]) 21:08, 8 October 2015 (PDT)
 
:::::Trying to rediscover how to use Srcdemo2, but haven't been successful. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ShEXK_5Cjwk&feature=youtu.be| Here's the rough test] for the video just to test the format. Will probably spend more time waiting for the vaporization animations to complete before moving onto the next target. [[User:Scoot-teh-Destroyer|Scoot-teh-Destroyer]] ([[User talk:Scoot-teh-Destroyer|talk]]) 21:43, 8 October 2015 (PDT)
 
  
::::: So far it's looking pretty good. I'd suggest making the following changes:
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::::* In your loadout, after you give time for the viewers to read the description of the item, move your mouse so they can see the Scout.
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== {{Demo Header|Chemistry Set}} ==
::::* After you hit the Pyro with the first swing allow a tiny bit more time to stare at him before jumping over the barrier and continuing.
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Hi, just made a vid demonstration about Chemistry kit. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R2uEkaw6Jbs&feature=youtu.be
::::* Allow more time to watch the corpses disappear, also let at least most of the Scout's quote finish when you kill the Soldier before moving on to the Medic.
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What should i do next? ~ Fokus 03.06.2020 16:50 GMT+2
::::* After killing the medic wait for a tiny bit longer still showing the crits, then let them disappear and then taunt.
 
::::* Also, in the lower right of your screen while hitting the Medic a icon appears several times.
 
::::* Also, VERY picky for me to say, but since you're re-recording the clip I'd suggest kicking the Spy from the server, as he's not needed for this clip.
 
  
::::Very good demonstration attempt dude, only a few small changes need to be made. If you haven't been already, watch the current [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zoxjz2bN3kk Bat Demonstration] and use it as a reference, try mimic it as close as possible. (The delays, intervals of swings etc) and your clip will look much nicer. Also, regarding your first question, are you referring to the skin inspection animation? If so, they are not required for the wiki's demonstrations. <span style="font-family:aharoni; font-size:110%; font-style:;font-weight:bold;">[[File:User_Obilisk_Demo1.png]] [[User:Obilisk|<span style="text-decoration:">Obilisk</span>]]</span> 03:26, 9 October 2015 (PDT)
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:Hi there,
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: You now have to wait for [[User:WindPower|WindPower]] to respond. He usually does this every week on Sundays, though he's very busy nowadays.
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: My advice on your video is: Don't start in the Main Menu, start in the backpack (first page) instead. Make sure your backpack's page is also clear of other stuff, so when you finished using the chemistry set it doesnt go to the third page and you'll have to drag it from there. Show yourself using the Chemistry Set, too, it's part of its functionality. Your video also seems to have a delay between sound and the video.
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: It also lacks editing.<br>[[User:GrampaSwood|GrampaSwood]] ([[User talk:GrampaSwood|talk]]) 15:05, 3 June 2020 (UTC)
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:::> he's very busy nowadays
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:::You give me too much credit. [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 05:44, 8 July 2020 (UTC)
  
I looked into it, and it appears that as default, at least with exec'ing weaponref the numbers stack. Place "hud_combattext_batching 0" into your console and it should fix the problem,
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::Hi, thanks for tips. I fixed the video, now it should be much better. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-fgON6QQ6Mk&feature=youtu.be <br />
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::[[User:Fokuskii|Fokuskii]] ([[User talk:Fokuskii|talk]]) 23:53, 3 June 2020 (UTC)
  
EDIT: Disregard what I said about the damage stacking, I'm just not used to it taking effect on the Scout's melee, since usually it doesn't stack on melee as they're not firing fast enough. <span style="font-family:aharoni; font-size:110%; font-style:;font-weight:bold;">[[File:User_Obilisk_Demo1.png]] [[User:Obilisk|<span style="text-decoration:">Obilisk</span>]]</span> 05:13, 9 October 2015 (PDT)
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:::The same problem applies with the backpack. It should start on the first page (that's empty except for the required items). The section where you hover over the chemistry set is too long, perhaps make it 1 or 2 seconds. The same thing applies to the end, show the strangifier being applied. It also lacks fading (A lot of these things can be fixed with simple editing, but I think the pages thing will have to be done with a new one :\)<br>[[User:GrampaSwood|GrampaSwood]] ([[User talk:GrampaSwood|talk]]) 13:10, 4 June 2020 (UTC)
:All of what Obilisk said, plus:
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:::The video should also be 1080p (your first version was 1080p but the second version is 720p). Agreed with all other comments — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 05:44, 8 July 2020 (UTC)
* If you can set your recording program to show your mouse cursor, please do so in the loadout view. It's not a hard rule but most demonstrations have it visible. If you can't then no big deal.
 
* Hide the Spy; he's visible a few times in the clip. The most effective way to do that is to do what Obilisk said (kick the spy).
 
* The weapon selection HUD is visible for a split-second right after taunting.
 
Also if you need help with SrcDemo2 please ask~ Though your current recording setup and video quality is very nice as-is. — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 17:13, 10 October 2015 (PDT)
 
  
:[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9peUIsMcFs&feature=youtu.be Here's the latest test demo.] I'll be sure to do one more similar to this when the item is actually tradable. On another note, Nvidia Shadowplay seems to have no setting to show the mouse cursor, so I believe showing it on the loadout screen will be impossible. Seem to not be able to launch SrcDemo2 at all, not even the software will launch. I'll just stick with my current setup for now. [[User:Scoot-teh-Destroyer|Scoot-teh-Destroyer]] ([[User talk:Scoot-teh-Destroyer|talk]]) 15:26, 11 October 2015 (PDT)
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I have both an alt and a professor speks chemistry set for this demonstration, I just have yet to find the password to the account...<br>[[File:BLU Wiki Cap.png|20px|link=List of Wiki Cap owners]] | [[Help:Group rights|<span style="color:green;font-family:TF2 Build;">s</span>]] | [[User:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">GrampaSwood</font>]] [[File:PraisetheSun.png|20px|alt=Praise the Sun!]] ([[User talk:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) ([[Special:Contributions/GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">contribs</font>]]) 21:36, 12 November 2023 (UTC)
:: Clip is looking very good Scoot! My one suggestion to make the clip perfect would be to after killing the medic not release the crits instantly, rather wait a tiny bit then release. Very nit picky but it would make the clip great, though since it's not too noticable Wind may let it slide. My suggestion for the mouse cursor would either be manually edit the mouse cursor (Yes, a struggle :S) Or perhaps try recording with another software. Although I remember some old demonstrations in the past not having a cursor so you'd want to wait for Wind's reply on that. <span style="font-family:aharoni; font-size:110%; font-style:;font-weight:bold;">[[File:User_Obilisk_Demo1.png]] [[User:Obilisk|<span style="text-decoration:">Obilisk</span>]]</span> 02:27, 12 October 2015 (PDT)
 
  
=={{icon item|Burstchester|16px}} [[Burstchester]] ==
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Hey, was wondering if this was still open? I can do a possible version with a collector chemistry kit but not sure if it matters if it's strangifier or collector's. [[User:God&#39;sWrath|God&#39;sWrath]] ([[User talk:God&#39;sWrath|talk]]) 01:15, 16 February 2024 (UTC)
  
=={{icon item|C.A.P.P.E.R|16px}} [[C.A.P.P.E.R]] ==
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:It's still open, although a collector's kit may be too large as it would require showing all 100 items added.<br>[[File:BLU Wiki Cap.png|20px|link=List of Wiki Cap owners]] {{!}} [[Help:Group rights|<span style="color:green;font-family:TF2 Build;">s</span>]] {{!}} [[User:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">GrampaSwood</font>]] [[File:PraisetheSun.png|20px|alt=Praise the Sun!]] ([[User talk:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) ([[Special:Contributions/GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">contribs</font>]]) 11:13, 16 February 2024 (UTC)
{{Reservation| [[User:Scoot-teh-Destroyer|Scoot-teh-Destroyer]] ([[User talk:Scoot-teh-Destroyer|talk]]) 06:07, 9 October 2015 (PDT)}}
 
:Guess I'll do this one too. [[User:Scoot-teh-Destroyer|Scoot-teh-Destroyer]] ([[User talk:Scoot-teh-Destroyer|talk]]) 06:07, 9 October 2015 (PDT)
 
  
=={{icon item|Giger_Counter|16px}} [[Giger Counter]] ==
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::Ah, alright so what if I show a strangifier first and add a section for the collector's where I only put 1 in but I put disclaimer stating it's x amount of x items and not 1 item for a collector's kit? So video doesn't drag out. [[User:God&#39;sWrath|God&#39;sWrath]] ([[User talk:God&#39;sWrath|talk]]) 03:41, 17 February 2024 (UTC)
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:::Just pick a simpler, cheaper chemistry set like in the first video · [[User:Ashe|<font color="DB9C1F">Ashe</font>]] ([[User talk:Ashe|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) 05:15, 17 February 2024 (UTC)
  
=={{icon item|Shooting_Star|16px}} [[Shooting Star]] ==
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== {{Demo Header|Upgrade to Premium Gift}} ==
{{Reservation|[[User:Punishment Fatal|Punishment Fatal]] ([[User talk:Punishment Fatal|talk]]) 03:28, 11 October 2015 (PDT)}}
 
: I just traded up mine, so I guess I'll try it.
 
 
 
=={{icon item|Kazotsky Kick|16px}} [[The Kazotsky Kick]]==
 
:I think Valve beat our asses on this one. Not sure if we should still do it, because it'd be weird to have two videos on the same page. — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 18:47, 26 September 2015 (PDT)
 
 
 
=={{icon item|Grappling Hook|16px}} [[Grappling Hook]]==
 
(I mean, if nothing else, it ''is'' able to kill players.) [[User:Dogman15|Dogman15]] ([[User talk:Dogman15|talk]]) 02:26, 24 December 2014 (PST)
 
: I don't know, but, Grappling Hook is having several changes each update, so every time an update releases, it would be need to re-made the entire video. In my opinion, I would wait until Mannpower to release it completely before doing a Weapon Demonstration video. [[File:Gabrielwoj Signature 1.png|link=User:Gabrielwoj]] ▪ [[File:Gabrielwoj Signature 2.png|link=Special:Contribs/Gabrielwoj]] - [[File:Gabrielwoj Signature 3.png|link=User talk:Gabrielwoj]] 08:37, 16 March 2015 (PDT)
 
:: Yeah I agree with Gabrielwoj, otherwise we'd be constantly doing this demonstration :(  <span style="font-family:aharoni; font-size:110%; font-style:;font-weight:bold;">[[File:User_Obilisk_Demo1.png]] [[User:Obilisk|<span style="text-decoration:">Obilisk</span>]]</span> 13:32, 17 March 2015 (PDT)
 
 
 
==[[Image:Pumpkinbomb.png|16px]] [[Pumpkin bomb]]==
 
:does it really need a video?  [[File:Charger 2.png|20px|]] [[User:Karmacharger|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Karmacharger</span>]] 4:52 AM 10/19/2014 (PDT)
 
::Not really. That or the other mechanics would need videos too (ghosts, halloween bosses, spells, etc) — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 19:59, 27 October 2014 (PDT)
 
 
 
= Tools =
 
=={{icon item|Gift Wrap|16px}} [[Gift Wrap]]==
 
:Does this still need to be done? I can do it. ~[[User:Hi5TBone|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Hi5TBone</span>]] 4:45 PM 6/12/2015 (CST)
 
:: No one seems to have touched it, so go ahead. <span style="font-family:aharoni; font-size:110%; font-style:;font-weight:bold;">[[File:User_Obilisk_Demo1.png]] [[User:Obilisk|<span style="text-decoration:">Obilisk</span>]]</span> 05:11, 13 June 2015 (PDT)
 
 
 
=={{icon item|Upgrade to Premium Gift|16px}} [[Upgrade to Premium Gift]]==
 
 
:I'm not quite sure if this one is necessary [[File:Charger 2.png|20px|]] [[User:Karmacharger|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Karmacharger</span>]] 9:12 PM 8/24/2014 (PDT)
 
:I'm not quite sure if this one is necessary [[File:Charger 2.png|20px|]] [[User:Karmacharger|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Karmacharger</span>]] 9:12 PM 8/24/2014 (PDT)
 
::Nah, probably not unless someone just happens to run upon that item — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 19:59, 27 October 2014 (PDT)
 
::Nah, probably not unless someone just happens to run upon that item — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 19:59, 27 October 2014 (PDT)
  
= Cosmetics =
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Question: Do I need to show I, person giving the premium gift, receive the professor speks?<br>[[User:GrampaSwood|GrampaSwood]] ([[User talk:GrampaSwood|talk]]) 11:04, 6 September 2019 (UTC)
=={{icon item|Boston Boom-Bringer|16px}} [[Boston Boom-Bringer]] ==
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:Yes, that's part of the item's effects. — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 23:39, 8 September 2019 (UTC)
  
{{c|Demonstration of how the sound effect works}}
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I have brought the premium gift to another account, the only issue is that the professor speks is already on my TF2 account, so I would need a third account to receive the speks (while already having premium). It may take a while longer but if anyone else wants to give a crack at it.<br>[[File:BLU Wiki Cap.png|20px|link=List of Wiki Cap owners]] | [[Help:Group rights|<span style="color:green;font-family:TF2 Build;">s</span>]] | [[User:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">GrampaSwood</font>]] [[File:PraisetheSun.png|20px|alt=Praise the Sun!]] ([[User talk:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) ([[Special:Contributions/GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">contribs</font>]]) 21:36, 12 November 2023 (UTC)
  
Pardon me if I'm putting in the wrong place, but I noticed that [[Infernal Orchestrina]] includes the demonstration. I know that was for a pyroland item, but what if the Boston Boom-Bringer had a demonstration video where it shows the sound effect that is played when taunting? Just like the Orchestrina had (albeit the Pyroland thing). There is several sound effects, though, so all of them has to be played. [[File:Gabrielwoj Signature 1.png|link=User:Gabrielwoj]] ▪ [[File:Gabrielwoj Signature 2.png|link=Special:Contribs/Gabrielwoj]] - [[File:Gabrielwoj Signature 3.png|link=User talk:Gabrielwoj]] 21:32, 26 March 2015 (PDT)
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== {{Demo Header|Something Special For Someone Special}} (Tool)==
:Infernal Orchestrina was demonstrated because it turns pyroland vision on by itself, not because of the sound effect it adds. This item has no such dramatic change, so no need to demonstrate — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 15:08, 29 March 2015 (PDT)
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::Alright, thanks. [[File:Gabrielwoj Signature 1.png|link=User:Gabrielwoj]] [[File:Gabrielwoj Signature 2.png|link=Special:Contribs/Gabrielwoj]] - [[File:Gabrielwoj Signature 3.png|link=User talk:Gabrielwoj]] 15:12, 29 March 2015 (PDT)
 
  
= Need to be redone=
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=={{icon item|Baby Face's Blaster|16px}} [[Baby Face's Blaster]]==
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Old discussion (2019)
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Hi. I know this item is quite expensive for someone to make a demonstration, but I was thinking, a video showcasing how the item works (which the purchaser's choose they person), and then, on the same video, showing the chosen player's screen perspective, showing the option to accept the proposal, and after that, showing the notification on the Main Menu for the accepted proposal.
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<br>Considering the high cost that would be making this demonstration, I wonder if Valve could gives us a hand and supply one for our demonstrations purposes, as long we delete both rings after doing the full video.
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<br>It seems that the process is mostly the same as the [[Gift Wrap]], but I have no idea how are the things when someone receives that Gift. We also lack a proper Gift Wrap video, apparently. [[File:Gabrielwoj Signature Icon.png|15px|link=User:Gabrielwoj]] - [[File:Gabrielwoj Signature 1.png|link=User:Gabrielwoj]] ▪ [[File:Gabrielwoj Signature 2.png|link=Special:Contribs/Gabrielwoj]] - [[File:Gabrielwoj Signature 3.png|link=User talk:Gabrielwoj]] 19:26, 16 July 2019 (UTC)
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: Keep dreaming, valve won't even fix server issues much less give us free items. If you are planning to make a demonstration though, better ask windpower for some super detailed instructions to make sure it's right the first time. [[User:Naleksuh|Naleksuh]] ([[User talk:Naleksuh|talk]]) 21:37, 18 July 2019 (UTC)
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::Well, they have the ability to both give and delete items, it could work? Yes. Will it happen? We don't know. If there's anything we can do, is ask for someone who plans on buying one legitimately and asking them for help. Last time that the item got in 50% off, a lot of people bought one, so. [[File:Gabrielwoj Signature Icon.png|15px|link=User:Gabrielwoj]] - [[File:Gabrielwoj Signature 1.png|link=User:Gabrielwoj]] ▪ [[File:Gabrielwoj Signature 2.png|link=Special:Contribs/Gabrielwoj]] - [[File:Gabrielwoj Signature 3.png|link=User talk:Gabrielwoj]] 20:01, 19 July 2019 (UTC)
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:::If you give it some time, I could save up to get it and try to make it. <br>[[User:GrampaSwood|GrampaSwood]] ([[User talk:GrampaSwood|talk]]) 20:16, 19 July 2019 (UTC)
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:I offer to give a 50 USD Steam gift card to anyone who has already gotten an item demonstration video approved and uploaded in order to make this demonstration, and then another 50 USD Steam gift card upon video approval. I'm not sure what the price of the item is in other currencies but I'll also match that if possible as long as it's not too much more expensive. Please make sure to record both sides (sender account and receiver account). — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 23:00, 21 July 2019 (UTC)
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::Well, I guess we should start discussing how should it be done. Firstly, I think the Gifter should be named "Scout" and the Recipient be "Miss Pauling". Scout has the [https://steamcdn-a.akamaihd.net/steamcommunity/public/images/avatars/c7/c718b0c234a3f5ff5fc8f0b99c3f64f0de4ccefe_full.jpg Scout avatar] (184x184 version from Steam), while Miss Pauling can use [https://i.imgur.com/bBLbzuP.png this]. I think the name could be something along what Scout would say, my suggestion, name it as "You are really frickin' sweet". That'd go nice, eh?
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::Secondly, I don't know who's going to be the Recipient. Should we create a Steam account just for that, or should we rely with another Video Demonstration Creator to do a collab? [[File:Gabrielwoj Signature Icon.png|15px|link=User:Gabrielwoj]] - [[File:Gabrielwoj Signature 1.png|link=User:Gabrielwoj]] ▪ [[File:Gabrielwoj Signature 2.png|link=Special:Contribs/Gabrielwoj]] - [[File:Gabrielwoj Signature 3.png|link=User talk:Gabrielwoj]] 23:55, 21 July 2019 (UTC)
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::<br> well how about we can hit two birds with one store and do the ring and the Upgrade to Premium Gift from the same two account?, First the two account would demostrate the Upgrade to Premium Gift which the sender should buy it from the store and send to the receiver who don't have premium. them Recycle the same account to do the ring. We could make a story out of it as well from friendship when a user gifted the premium to the other use then after few days they both got engaged via the sender would give the ring. It won't end up a awkward situation. but for this situation we need 4 people to do the ring tho 2 sender reciever, 2 regular tf2 player to recieved the message one in the tf2 main menu and the other while in-game[[User:Jomarcenter|Jomarcenter]] ([[User talk:Jomarcenter|talk]]) 14:27, 28 August 2019 (UTC)
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::::That's a cute story, but let's keep the demonstration to just one item (the ring), not the Upgrade to Premium Gift on top of it. — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 22:17, 1 September 2019 (UTC)
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:::: I don't know what you're talking about, wind. Story time is clearly more important than the actual video. (but in all seriousness the two '''accounts''' would be okay to reuse right?) [[User:Naleksuh|Naleksuh]] ([[User talk:Naleksuh|talk]]) 04:52, 4 September 2019 (UTC)
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:::::Yeah, sure, it would just be two separate videos — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 23:39, 8 September 2019 (UTC)
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:::<br> I kind of thought the role playing names were unnnecessary to begin with, and could also cause confusion as to whether or not those texts always appear in game. But if WP or thed feels that's the best way to do it without commercializing it then oh well for me.
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::: The two steam accounts would be kinda hard to sync up (and would also be a waste of $100), i'm willing to be proposed to if no one else will :) [[User:Naleksuh|Naleksuh]] ([[User talk:Naleksuh|talk]]) 01:06, 25 July 2019 (UTC)
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::::No need for roleplaying. It's cool if you want to do it but totally optional. — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 06:26, 29 July 2019 (UTC)
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{{c|Increased amount of Boost lost on air jump}}
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== [[File:Mannpower Powerup King.png|16px|link=Mannpower]] [[Mannpower]] powerups ==
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{{c|Demonstrate all powerups.}}
  
{{Reservation|[[User:Jimbo Jones|Jimbo Jones]] ([[User talk:Jimbo Jones|talk]]) 09:27, 29 August 2015 (PDT)}} I'll do it. I've been noticing the demonstrations have been falling behind, we should get stuff done. [[User:Jimbo Jones|Jimbo Jones]] ([[User talk:Jimbo Jones|talk]]) 09:27, 29 August 2015 (PDT)
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{{c|Show you can switch to the Grappling Hook under the effects of the Knockout powerup.}}
  
Alright, I got the first version of the demo here: http://youtu.be/MJAqQuEUVls. Sorry it looks a bit stretched, I selected to not maintain the aspect ratio while in Sony Vegas. Otherwise it would have gotten a 4:3 ratio. If you need demo files, I'll be happy to provide the downloads. [[User:Jimbo Jones|Jimbo Jones]] ([[User talk:Jimbo Jones|talk]]) 12:24, 31 August 2015 (PDT)
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Hello, I had a question about preforming/recording this demonstration. Mannpower has a domination mechanic (Not to be confused with [[Domination|dominations]]), this mechanic works by when a player has many more kills than other players on the enemy team, and so that player gets nerfs on their power ups. I'm guessing I would have to demonstrate this in the video, however I do not know how to activate it. I have not been able to activate this on myself in tr_karma, however even if I did, the player who is dominating does not get the message on their screen showing that they are dominating. The only effects the player who is dominating sees is they are marked for death if they have a power up, and a nerf on that power up for that player. I don't know how I would go about demonstrating the effects of domination mechanic, considering the viewer wouldn't know that being marked for death with a power up means you are dominating. If I were to get the domination mechanic to work, should I just show the class as marked for death, or something else? [[User:Andrew360|<span style="font-family:TF2 Build; color:#038d3a ">Andrew360</span>]] [[File:Edit_icon.png|20px|link=Special:Contributions/Andrew360]] [[File:Taunt Rancho Relaxo.png|25px|link=User_talk:Andrew360]] 01:51, 12 July 2022 (UTC)
:Sorry, but the ratio requirement is there because it should be respected... Stretching the video doesn't help. Similarly:
 
* The video must run in DirectX 9+ mode or OpenGL (yours is running in DirectX 8 or 7 mode, you can tell by the lack of reflective cartoon-y shaders on the characters and the non-dynamic lighting of the map). You can change this by running the game with the <code>-dxlevel 95</code> flag.
 
* Framerate is choppy
 
* The video is cut on the sides (ammo HUD counter and kill notices are chopped off)
 
* Video and audio glitch while taunting at 0:57
 
Please see if you can get the video quality up to the requirements first before making large demonstration efforts. If you can't run TF2 at better settings than that then I'm afraid you can't really make demonstration videos :( — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 20:21, 9 September 2015 (PDT)
 
  
Don't worry, I got a new widescreen laptop with way more graphical capabilities. I'll be able to turn in the demonstration in much better quality and I won't have to stretch it.
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:This does sound hard to demonstrate. If you enable third-person mode, do you see the skull icon above the player's head in the 3D world (not on the HUD)? If so, here's a structure that might work:
Now that I look at the video, I agree that it isn't demonstration quality. [[User:Jimbo Jones|Jimbo Jones]] ([[User talk:Jimbo Jones|talk]]) 20:45, 12 September 2015 (PDT)
 
  
DEMONSTRATION REQUEST:
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* Spawn enough enemies on the map such that you can reach domination status, and still have enough enemies left over to show that the effect isn't about killing *all* other enemies.
I've got a rough draft right here, of Baby Face post-Gun Mettle. Feedback welcome. Edited with Sony Vegas, 720p WMV. The video does not have the thumbnail, I'd expect that to be added in post. https://youtu.be/UuM1zwVTEwo [[User:PePeToads|PePeToads]] ([[User talk:PePeToads|talk]]) 03:01, 15 October 2015 (PDT)
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* Start the demonstration in first-person mode.
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* Switch to third-person mode.
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* Kill enough enemies such that domination status appears.
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* Highlight the correlation between the third-person skull icon and the HUD one, for example by zooming in on both at once, or drawing a red box around both or something.
  
Not a bad attempt PePeToads, however Jimbo Jones has reserved this demonstration, so only he should be working on it. Either way I have still watched your video and these are what I picked up on.
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Now you've established that "skull on HUD" = "having killed enough enemies".
  
* The loadout text popup has a white border. Try restarting your game, usually it fixes it.
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Now, demonstrate each powerup one by one. For each powerup, do a split-screen, with the left being non-dominating, and the right being already-in-dominating status. Pick up the powerup on both clips and demonstrate the effect. The skull icon being visible on the clip on the right should be enough of a hint that this is the cause. If not obvious enough, you can draw attention to it at the beginning of the clip, such as by drawing a red box over it or something.
* Overall the loadout view seems a bit low quality, the Scout appears to be very pixel-y.
 
* Please use the default TF2 crosshair.
 
* A bit too long of a delay between the shots at the Pyro.
 
* You shouldn't reload until you have emptied your magazine in the first clip.
 
* After shooting the Medic you should shoot the wooden target at the back.
 
* Though the second clip is interesting, overall it'd be much more effective showing it how the [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ry1XU_U-KuU current demonstration does. ]
 
* Music looping needs work, primarily noticeable at 1:00 and 2:00. It's also too loud, the gameplay should be louder than the music.
 
* The double jumping clip again, would be demonstrated better if it's more like the current demonstration. Also, if the bots don't have a purpose (Both the Medic and the Soldier don't appear to in this clip) I'd suggest kicking them from the server.
 
* The splitscreen should show more than just two. It'd be worth seeing the speed comparison when the Boost bar is at different levels. The current demonstration has a 6 way splitscreen, so I'd suggest going with that, and also, if doing a 2 way I'd suggest having them next to each other rather than on top.
 
* At the end of the demonstration I'd suggest having the fade out a bit faster.
 
* Just a side note, when uploading your preview to Youtube, please make them unlisted.
 
  
Overall not bad for an attempt at this demonstration. However, in the future keep an eye out for demonstrations that have been reserved. If you're unsure on how the discussion page works and whatnot, check the [https://wiki.teamfortress.com/wiki/Team_Fortress_Wiki:Weapon_Demonstration Project page] for the basic rules and guidelines. The suggestions I have made are mine though, and Wind may have a different opinion on a few of them. However, since this demonstration is reserved from another user, considering a video from someone else would not be considered unless the demonstration has been unreserved. Currently there are plenty of demonstrations that need to be done though, so feel free to take a stab at one that no one has touched. :) <span style="font-family:aharoni; font-size:110%; font-style:;font-weight:bold;">[[File:User_Obilisk_Demo1.png]] [[User:Obilisk|<span style="text-decoration:">Obilisk</span>]]</span> 04:10, 15 October 2015 (PDT)
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Hope this helps. I suggest doing a test demo with just one or two powerups demonstrated and posting it here first before doing all the work it would take to get this all done for all powerups, as there are a lot. (Perhaps each powerup should have its own video? That's a separate question...)
  
How would I go about looping the music better? I didn't want to just have the whole file played over and over, but I couldn't get the loop to be seamless [[User:PePeToads|PePeToads]] ([[User talk:PePeToads|talk]]) 08:12, 15 October 2015 (PDT)
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[[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 21:39, 31 July 2022 (UTC)
:: [http://www.mediafire.com/download/y0gjm9yekjj6zzx/Demonstration_Music_v2.rar Here] you can download the extended version. It's outrageous in length, so it should be able to fit any demonstration, no matter how long. <span style="font-family:aharoni; font-size:110%; font-style:;font-weight:bold;">[[File:User_Obilisk_Demo1.png]] [[User:Obilisk|<span style="text-decoration:">Obilisk</span>]]</span> 01:16, 16 October 2015 (PDT)
 
  
=={{icon item|Black Box|16px}} [[Black Box]]==
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:I might try my hand at this, but only after I finish my other demonstrations and receive feedback and corrections for them. [[User:Po1yb1ank|Po1yb1ank]] ([[User talk:Po1yb1ank|talk]]) 23:56, 14 December 2023 (UTC)
{{c|Changed +15 health on hit to +20 health on hit per attack}}
 
  
{{c|Changed how health on hit works for radius damage. Is now capped per attack and scales with total damage done relative to base damage.}}
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== {{Demo Header|Secret Saxton}} ==
:{{Reservation|[[File:Charger 2.png|20px|]] [[User:Karmacharger|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Karmacharger</span>]] 2:22 AM 9/20/2015 (PDT)}}
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::https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HFvEAgXgEY0 hate to say, the animation is pretty glitchy though [[File:Charger 2.png|20px|]] [[User:Karmacharger|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Karmacharger</span>]] 4:56 AM 9/20/2015 (PDT)
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I don't think it's very needed, but since it seems very simple, I can do it · [[User:Ashe|<font color="DB9C1F">Ashe</font>]] ([[User talk:Ashe|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) 05:13, 16 December 2023 (UTC)
:::Is good, please srcdemo2~ — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 18:45, 26 September 2015 (PDT)
 
::::https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u723Wrfhips [[File:Charger 2.png|20px|]] [[User:Karmacharger|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Karmacharger</span>]] 9:27 PM 10/2/2015 (PDT)
 
:::::Is good, please upload~ — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 21:08, 4 October 2015 (PDT)
 
  
=={{icon item|Blutsauger|16px}} [[Blutsauger]]==
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:Won't you need another person since they are only delivered to players while playing on a server? [[User:Cheddar|Cheddar]] ([[User talk:Cheddar|talk]]) 08:18, 16 December 2023 (UTC)
{{c|Updated description to better detail the weapon's features.}}
 
:{{Reservation|[[File:Charger 2.png|20px|]] [[User:Karmacharger|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Karmacharger</span>]] 8:29 PM 9/20/2015 (PDT)}}
 
::https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V1aZ7iMkyeI [[File:Charger 2.png|20px|]] [[User:Karmacharger|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Karmacharger</span>]] 2:03 AM 9/21/2015 (PDT)
 
:::Is good, please srcdemo2~ — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 18:45, 26 September 2015 (PDT)
 
::::https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hbxtan3uW9o [[File:Charger 2.png|20px|]] [[User:Karmacharger|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Karmacharger</span>]] 2:50 PM 10/9/2015 (PDT)
 
:::::Is good, please upload~ — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 17:13, 10 October 2015 (PDT)
 
  
=={{icon item|Bonk! Atomic Punch|16px}} [[Bonk! Atomic Punch]]==
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::To add on, maybe have it filmed from the perspective of the gift being sent, and have the perspective of the recipient? [[User:Cheddar|Cheddar]] ([[User talk:Cheddar|talk]]) 08:19, 16 December 2023 (UTC)
{{c|Updated description to better detail the weapon's features.}}
 
:{{Reservation|[[File:Charger 2.png|20px|]] [[User:Karmacharger|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Karmacharger</span>]] 8:29 PM 9/20/2015 (PDT)}}
 
::https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vvMHUp9o51I [[File:Charger 2.png|20px|]] [[User:Karmacharger|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Karmacharger</span>]] 3:21 AM 9/21/2015 (PDT)
 
:::Is good, please srcdemo2~ — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 18:45, 26 September 2015 (PDT)
 
::::https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cYB2NMc_jOA [[File:Charger 2.png|20px|]] [[User:Karmacharger|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Karmacharger</span>]] 9:28 PM 10/2/2015 (PDT)
 
:::::Is good, please upload~ — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 21:08, 4 October 2015 (PDT)
 
  
=={{icon item|Brass Beast|16px}} [[Brass Beast]]==
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:::I could help with this one, I can do most days after 22:00 CEST [[User:Po1yb1ank|Po1yb1ank]] ([[User talk:Po1yb1ank|talk]]) 15:29, 16 December 2023 (UTC)
{{c|Added 20% damage resistance while spun up}}
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::::@Po1yb1ank we appreciate your enthusiasm, but before doing this, please complete the KGB video first. I can wait · [[User:Ashe|<font color="DB9C1F">Ashe</font>]] ([[User talk:Ashe|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) 17:45, 16 December 2023 (UTC)
  
{{Reservation|[[Thedop]] 22:05, 11 August 2015 (UTC+2)}}
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:::::Sure thing, I've just been trying to edit it and the fist bump videos, expect them both in the coming days. [[User:Po1yb1ank|Po1yb1ank]] ([[User talk:Po1yb1ank|talk]]) 21:34, 16 December 2023 (UTC)
:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K9g7_aqz1bY&feature=youtu.be
 
::My first try, How's this ?
 
  
::: Hey Thedop,
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::::::I might delay doing the KGB taunt until the new year, I was going through the files and all of them have bots dropping the Smissmas presents, so expect the KGB to be completed later than expected. [[User:Po1yb1ank|Po1yb1ank]] ([[User talk:Po1yb1ank|talk]]) 13:55, 20 December 2023 (UTC)
 
Very nice for your first demonstration. A few very small things I picked out though:
 
  
* In the loadout screen it'd be nicer if you could try get the minigun to not be under the pop up at all, so it's completely in sight.
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{{Outdent|6}} I'm still up for making this demonstration, I would need a lovely assistant to help out with it. [[User:Cheddar|Cheddar]] ([[User talk:Cheddar|talk]]) 18:24, 21 January 2024 (UTC)
* All three of your splitscreens appear to have the hud in different positions. When the transitions to the next splitscreen happens you can see the hud moving. Are the splitscreens perhaps not all identically 'split' and centered?
 
*  Since you're possibly redoing the second clip, while you're at it I'd suggest the starting positions for each of the clips to be identical. (the minigun on the right has to re position after spinning up.)
 
*  You should try have the soldier sync up his rockets with both clips during the last splitscreen. I'd say try at least sync the first rocket.
 
  
Overall very good for your first attempt Thedop, just a few very small problems to fix. This is all however, just my opinion. Wind will give you another review when he comes on, so it may be worth waiting for him. Good luck! <span style="font-family:aharoni; font-size:110%; font-style:;font-weight:bold;">[[File:User_Obilisk_Demo1.png]] [[User:Obilisk|<span style="text-decoration:">Obilisk</span>]]</span> 06:45, 14 August 2015 (PDT)
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:IF you still need an assist I could help some time just let me know [[User:Mediarch|Mediarch]] ([[User talk:Mediarch|talk]]) 23:43, 12 March 2024 (UTC)
:Three more things:
 
  
* The video is [http://upload.gaiatools.com/files/vlcsnap-Brass%20Beast%20Demonstration%20%281080p%29.mp4-%40-00_00_16-00001_0.png interlaced].
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::Yeah still need a hand with it, the only problem is getting a way to join one another because using create server won't make it joinable, I think there some other stuff you gotta do.<br>[[User:Cheddar|<font color="#193940">'''Cheddar'''</font>]] • [[User talk:Cheddar|<font color="#193940">'''Talk'''</font>]] 07:53, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
* Would be nice with [http://upload.gaiatools.com/files/vlcsnap-Brass%20Beast%20Demonstration%20%281080p%29.mp4-%40-00_00_10-00002_0.png more antialiasing and anisotropic filtering], also increased bitrate because some edges are blurry
 
* For Minigun demonstrations, advance up until you are touching the front wooden barrier of the box you spawn in. This hides the clipping of the muzzleflash against the wooden box.
 
  
Thanks and good luck~ — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 15:56, 16 August 2015 (PDT)
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::: pretty sure You should be able to use https://na.serveme.tf/ to temporarily rent a server. That's what a lot of the competitive teams use for matches. If that doesn't work I could ask around and know a few people that might have their own servers we could borrow [[User:Mediarch|Mediarch]] ([[User talk:Mediarch|talk]]) 08:49, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
  
:(Sorry for my english) Thanks both of you, i hope i made an improvement.
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::::[https://drive.google.com/file/d/1vprZjfUfVNmIYVgJTo2B1kWNxwoXQ-zR/view?usp=sharing Here] is the demo feedback needed! <br>[[User:Cheddar|<font color="#193940">'''Cheddar'''</font>]] [[User talk:Cheddar|<font color="#193940">'''Talk'''</font>]] 17:30, 27 April 2024 (UTC)
::https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KlBmv_50NmQ&feature=youtu.be
 
:Unfortunaly, i coudn't do anything to fix this problem [http://upload.gaiatools.com/files/vlcsnap-Brass%20Beast%20Demonstration%20%281080p%29.mp4-%40-00_00_10-00002_0.png], TF2 is on max setting and it still happening. [[Thedop]] 16:16, 20 August 2015 (UTC+2)
 
::This is a lot better. Antialiasing looks good now, though I think you're still not on full anisotropic filtering but it's OK. This is fine. Just one small thing to fix: The video ends just before the final video-ending sound finishes. You can fix this by adding like a block of 0.5 seconds at the end of the video, or add a half-second fade-to-black at the end such that the video lasts long enough for the sound to finish. Thanks~ — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 20:21, 9 September 2015 (PDT)
 
:::https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoukjM86FTQ&feature=youtu.be
 
:::How's this ? [[Thedop]] 20:44, 10 September 2015
 
::::All good, thanks. Please upload~ — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 18:45, 26 September 2015 (PDT)
 
:::::http://www.mediafire.com/watch/a379dap1j0b15tj/brass_beast_demonstration.mp4 [[Thedop]] 20:54, 27 September 2015
 
  
=={{icon item|Buffalo Steak Sandvich|16px}} [[Buffalo Steak Sandvich]]==
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:::::[https://drive.google.com/file/d/1n6LxHCztXG7Fql9_k6DIl_tzvvPxb6Z5/view?usp=sharing Here] is a newer version! <br>[[User:Cheddar|<font color="#193940">'''Cheddar'''</font>]] • [[User talk:Cheddar|<font color="#193940">'''Talk'''</font>]] 19:51, 28 April 2024 (UTC)
  
{{c|Updated description to note that this item can be thrown (alt-fire) to supply players with a medkit}}
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= Action =
:{{Reservation|[[File:Charger 2.png|20px|]] [[User:Karmacharger|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Karmacharger</span>]] 12:58 PM 9/21/2015 (PDT)}}
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== {{Demo Header|Spellbook Magazine}} ==
::https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l8befhy8WIk [[File:Charger 2.png|20px|]] [[User:Karmacharger|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Karmacharger</span>]] 2:10 PM 9/21/2015 (PDT)
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{{c|Demonstrate all Magic spells with the Stock (Normal quality) version equipped.}}
:::The description hover time is too short for a long item description like that. Wait a few more seconds.
 
:::At 1:00, you should switch to the sandwich now that you have it. Just showing the slot doesn't really make an impression that it's back (in fact, it sort of feels like you can't switch to it). Rest is good, please srcdemo2 it~ — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 18:45, 26 September 2015 (PDT)
 
::::https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rnY7Js1ZTTE [[File:Charger 2.png|20px|]] [[User:Karmacharger|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Karmacharger</span>]] 5:13 PM 10/11/2015 (PDT)
 
  
=={{icon item|Bushwacka|16px}} [[Bushwacka]]==
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{{c|Maybe include this one on the [[Magic spells]] page, other spellbook variants are not needed (Fancy and Diary).}}<br>
{{c|Changed penalty from +20% fire vulnerability to +20% damage vulnerability while active}}
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Suggestion: Use {{cvar|tf_test_spellindex}} to always get a specific spell · [[User:Ashe|<font color="DB9C1F">Ashe</font>]] ([[User talk:Ashe|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) 21:19, 28 January 2024 (UTC)
  
{{Reservation|[[User:Akuago220|Akuago220, The Jungle Expeditioner]] ([[User talk:Akuago220|talk]]) 06:47, 3 July 2015 (PDT)}}
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== {{Demo Header|Fancy Spellbook}} ==
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{{c|Same as above, with the exception that the particle effects that emit on the hand are different.}}
  
=={{icon item|Chargin' Targe|16px}} [[Chargin' Targe]]==
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== {{Demo Header|Fireproof Secret Diary}} ==
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{{c|Same as above, with the exception that the particle effects that emit on the hand are different.}}
  
{{c|Updated description to better detail the weapon's features.}}
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== {{Demo Header|Kritz or Treat Canteen}} ==
  
=={{icon item|Claidheamh Mor|16px}} [[Claidheamh Mór]]==
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== [[File:Heavyhumiliation.png|16px|link=Match outcomes]] [[Match outcomes]] ==
{{c|Changed 25 charge on charge kill to 25 charge on melee kill}}
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{{c|Current one does not show front, crouching, running, etc, at all angles.}}
  
=={{icon item|Cloak and Dagger|16px}} [[Cloak and Dagger]]==
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So there's a bit of a problem with showing the other angles with this demonstration, as you can't actually rotate the camera. Despite it being in third person, you cannot change the angle of the camera nor use +left or +right to make only the camera move. Any attempt to move the camera either doesn't work or makes the character move along with the camera. My original plan for this demonstration was the following:
{{c|Can now pick up ammo kits for cloak meter while visible.}}
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* Show a split screen with a player on RED team on one screen and player on BLU team on the other screen
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** The RED player would capture the intelligence on 2Fort, and the other screen would show the BLU player in humiliation after they lose
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*** This part would repeat for each class
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* It would then cut to tr_karma where I would rotate the camera around the class when they're standing, crouching, running, etc
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* After this I would move on to the next class until all of them are done<br>
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However I can't do this because I can't rotate the camera, does anyone have any ideas on how to rotate or have other ideas of how to demonstration and show the different angles? <br>[[User:Andrew360|<span style="font-family:TF2 Build; color:#038d3a ">Andrew360</span>]] [[File:Edit_icon.png|20px|link=Special:Contributions/Andrew360]] [[File:Taunt Rancho Relaxo.png|25px|link=User_talk:Andrew360]] 22:47, 6 February 2023 (UTC)
  
{{c|While invisible, Spy receives 20% less damage from all damage sources}}
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::How about just use the RED player to see the BLU humiliation animation. Like:
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::''RED player is the main camera, BLU player is a bot/a smaller pip/split screen in the video''
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::#BLU player stands beside the intel point
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::#RED player captures the intel and win the game
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::#BLU player enters humiliation
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::#RED player look at the BLU player
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::#BLU player moves around to show off the humiliation animation.
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::I feel like this also shows off the concept of "match outcomes", make the whole story connected via one team wins and see another team loses with humiliation animations. Do we have to use tr_karma map for demonstration? Is this demonstration video about "match outcomes" or "humiliation animations"?--[[User:AlexT|<span style="background:linear-gradient(#D1EEFC, #81F3FD);border:1px #99F3FD solid;color:#007FFF;border-radius:8px">'''Alex'''</span>]]┋[[User talk:AlexT|<span style="color: #FF6600;">'''T'''</span>]] 03:19, 7 February 2023 (UTC)
  
{{c|While invisible, Spy has reduced timer on debuffs (fire, jarate, milk, bleed)}}
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:Simply using {{code|thirdperson_mayamode}} it would be possible to show off these animations from a stationary angle (turning your character rather than camera, although tr_karma/tr_target have no winning objective, so you'd need a different map for it (I suggest [[Thunder Mountain]] and standing in first BLU's spawn so it's still somewhat related to the tr_target map, using {{code|mp_bonusroundtime}} to extend the time at the end and just capping the first point).<br>[[User:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">GrampaSwood</font>]] ([[User talk:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) 11:01, 7 February 2023 (UTC)
  
=={{icon item|Conniver's Kunai|16px}} [[Conniver's Kunai]]==
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::I'm a bit confused on what you mean on the capping part, as you say to stay in BLU spawn, but also cap the point to win which would make BLU would win and RED would be in humiliation. Do you mean to make the time run out so RED wins instead? <br> [[User:Andrew360|<span style="font-family:TF2 Build; color:#038d3a ">Andrew360</span>]] [[File:Edit_icon.png|20px|link=Special:Contributions/Andrew360]] [[File:Taunt Rancho Relaxo.png|25px|link=User_talk:Andrew360]] 23:24, 7 February 2023 (UTC)
{{c|Health penalty reduced from -65 to -55 (70 Health total)}}
 
  
{{c|Minimum Health gain of 75 on kill}}
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:::Either works. Just any way to make the classes go into the humiliation pose. I personally wouldn't mind it that much if RED was in BLU spawn, but it's up to you.<br>[[User:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">GrampaSwood</font>]] ([[User talk:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) 12:33, 8 February 2023 (UTC)
  
{{c|Maximum overheal from Kunai increased from 195 to 210}}
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::::I went in game to test out thirdperson_mayamode, and it does not work, as for some reason the losing animation isn't considered as in "thirdperson" by the game I think. Does anyone else have any other ideas? Only other way I can think of is using SourceTV, however I don't know how to set that up. <br> [[User:Andrew360|<span style="font-family:TF2 Build; color:#038d3a ">Andrew360</span>]] [[File:Edit_icon.png|20px|link=Special:Contributions/Andrew360]] [[File:Taunt Rancho Relaxo.png|25px|link=User_talk:Andrew360]] 01:15, 12 February 2023 (UTC)
  
=={{icon item|Crusader's Crossbow|16px}} [[Crusader's Crossbow]]==
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= Need to be redone=
{{c|Updated description to better detail the weapon's features.}}
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== {{Demo Header|Axtinguisher}}, {{Demo Header|Postal Pummeler}} ==
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{{c|Updated attribute (removed Sketchek references), also doesn't show minicrit on pyro}}
  
Updated once again, needs a redo. [[User:InstantMan|InstantMan]] ([[User talk:InstantMan|talk]]) 17:31, 10 August 2015 (PDT)
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=={{icon item|Dalokohs Bar|16px}} [[Dalokohs Bar]]==
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[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3io0y4iiBsM Is this good?] Let me know if you like it and i'll do it again for the postal pumeller. Upload link is [https://mega.nz/#!NWghEarS!K1CqAOkKpGcc9yIcZGcfyQJQ9oYUbjsDH9yRvgNZtt4 here]. [[User:Naleksuh|Naleksuh]] ([[User talk:Naleksuh|talk]]) 19:48, 15 April 2019 (UTC)
{{c|Now has 10 second cool down on use}}
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:The framerate is very low, maybe try to reduce your video settings. - [[User:Thedop|Thedop]]  17:27, 22 April 2019 (UTC+1)
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::It's 30fps, how is that "very low"? windpower was okay with 30fps before. [[User:Naleksuh|Naleksuh]] ([[User talk:Naleksuh|talk]]) 23:37, 22 April 2019 (UTC)
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:::Well, maybe it's just me. - [[User:Thedop|Thedop]]  08:40, 23 April 2019 (UTC+1)
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::::I agree with [[User:Thedop|Thedop]]. The demonstration itself is very good, but the framerate is low which makes it look very choppy. That's my two cents at least [[User:Zeklyn|Zeklyn]] ([[User talk:Zeklyn|talk]]) 06:59, 23 April 2019 (UTC)
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:::::i dont know if i have the raw video files anymore but i might try exporting in a higher fps [[User:Naleksuh|Naleksuh]] ([[User talk:Naleksuh|talk]]) 15:49, 23 April 2019 (UTC)
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::::::A video might be 30 frames per second, but what matters is the number of *distinct* frames per second. If a video has 30 frames per second and every set of 3 frames is identical, then it may be technically 30 frames per second, but to the eye it's actually just 10 frames per second.
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::::::This video is definitely in the "too low framerate" category; if you're not convinced of that, compare the Axtinguisher swing animation in 0.25x speed on your video vs [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EyxKPRuR2D8 the current video] and count the number of unique frames of the swing animation that you can see. You can actually count them in your video, which means it's too low framerate.
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::::::Also, the fade in/out of the 3-way split-screen has [https://i.imgur.com/Ve0qUTY.jpg overlapping clips], i.e. each clip is transparently bleeding into each other. One easy way to solve this is to render a separate video with the 3-way split-screen rendered with no fades at high quality, then import that video as a single clip into the main video, and add the fades there.
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::::::Lastly, please add a second or so after the 3-way split-screen clip, as it currently ends before the last damage number finishes scrolling off. — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 00:37, 20 May 2019 (UTC)
  
{{c|Can now overheal up to 400hp}}
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I have a question before doing this one:
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Should I show off that even players immune to afterburn (Pyros/Danger Shield Sniper)? Like on a Pyro being actively burned can still get hit with the Mini-Crit (Its damage is based off of afterburn, if Pyros are immune to afterburn some people may think it means there is no damage bonus). If yes, can I do it with the Degreaser for faster switch speed or have a secondary Pyro ready?<br>[[User:GrampaSwood|GrampaSwood]] ([[User talk:GrampaSwood|talk]]) 18:00, 28 February 2020 (UTC)
  
{{c|Can be thrown (alt-fire) as a small medkit for other players to use}}
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:Sure, sounds useful to show. I think showing it on the Pyro is enough. — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 04:11, 24 April 2020 (UTC)
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::Video done, just have to edit it.<br>[[User:GrampaSwood|GrampaSwood]] ([[User talk:GrampaSwood|talk]]) 08:33, 27 June 2020 (UTC)
  
{{c|Updated description to note that this item can be thrown (alt-fire) to supply players with a medkit}}
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[https://drive.google.com/file/d/1fHLSZpRQ4ydyKYEQcxXbcVayxMKDX_PR/view?usp=sharing Here's the Axtinguisher] [[User:Mediarch|'''Mediarch''']] [[File:User Mediarch PFP.png|25px]][[User:Mediarch|<font color="#ff66cc"> ♥ </font>]][[User talk:Mediarch|'''Talk''']][[User:Mediarch|<font color="#ff66cc"> ♥ </font>]][[Special:Contributions/Mediarch|'''My Edits''']] 23:02, 28 March 2024 (UTC)
  
=={{icon item|Dead Ringer|16px}} [[Dead Ringer]]==
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:: [https://drive.google.com/file/d/1T9XlD8Jlf2Qocc4vEJlVJAuI1pAEFzG4/view?usp=drive_link here's v2 for the axe] [[User:Mediarch|'''Mediarch''']] [[File:User Mediarch PFP.png|25px]][[User:Mediarch|<font color="#ff66cc"> ♥ </font>]][[User talk:Mediarch|'''Talk''']][[User:Mediarch|<font color="#ff66cc"> ♥ </font>]][[Special:Contributions/Mediarch|'''My Edits''']] 17:25, 8 April 2024 (UTC)
{{c|Cloak mechanism has been overhauled (see patch notes)}}
 
  
=={{icon item|Detonator|16px}} [[Detonator]]==
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[https://drive.google.com/file/d/1fIjjdKLHWE6rwlGiadLDvODI9EGRAv43/view?usp=sharing Here's the Mailbox] [[User:Mediarch|'''Mediarch''']] [[File:User Mediarch PFP.png|25px]][[User:Mediarch|<font color="#ff66cc"> ♥ </font>]][[User talk:Mediarch|'''Talk''']][[User:Mediarch|<font color="#ff66cc"> ♥ </font>]][[Special:Contributions/Mediarch|'''My Edits''']] 23:04, 28 March 2024 (UTC)
  
{{c|Added text to describe 100% minicrits on burning targets}}
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:It seems like you left the combattext batching setting on, which makes it add up all the damage. Looks good otherwise.<br>[[File:BLU Wiki Cap.png|20px|link=List of Wiki Cap owners]] {{!}} [[Help:Group rights|<span style="color:green;font-family:TF2 Build;">s</span>]] {{!}} [[User:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">GrampaSwood</font>]] [[File:PraisetheSun.png|20px|alt=Praise the Sun!]] ([[User talk:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) ([[Special:Contributions/GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">contribs</font>]]) 20:40, 7 April 2024 (UTC)
  
{{c|Slightly increased blast jump height when doing a Detonator jump}}
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:: [https://drive.google.com/file/d/1vuKMWPevqPXFQnTO-kvO1FpykW_3lc1o/view?usp=sharing Here's Version 2 for the Mailbox] [[User:Mediarch|'''Mediarch''']] [[File:User Mediarch PFP.png|25px]][[User:Mediarch|<font color="#ff66cc"> ♥ </font>]][[User talk:Mediarch|'''Talk''']][[User:Mediarch|<font color="#ff66cc"> ♥ </font>]][[Special:Contributions/Mediarch|'''My Edits''']] 17:21, 8 April 2024 (UTC)
  
{{c|Increased blast radius from 92Hu to 110Hu}}
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== {{Demo Header|Crusader's Crossbow}} ==
  
{{c|Detonated explosions now also minicrit burning targets}}
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{{c|Ubercharge gain rate is reduced in the same way that the Medi Gun's healing (and therefore, Ubercharge build rate) is - it is based on the last time the target was in combat.}}  
  
{{c|Increased damage penalty to -25%}}
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{{c|Does not show that if you try to heal up an enemy Spy, Über is not built.}}
  
{{c|Increased self-damage penalty from +25% to +50%}}
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{{c|Does not show that if you heal an enemy player through a Pyro's reflect, Über is built.}}
  
=={{icon item|Diamondback|16px}} [[Diamondback]]==
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I removed the clip from the previous demonstration when the medic is building his übercharge with the crossbow, the actual changes make it way too long. [https://youtu.be/Ssaodg-dl7g Video] — [[User:Thedop|Thedop]] ([[User talk:Thedop|talk]]) 14:44, 11 September 2019 (UTC)
{{c|Spy no longer smacks himself in the face while reloading a revolver}}
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:The picture-in-picture clip is too large and covers the center of the main video's vision. So when the heavy/spy turns to see the medic, it just doesn't show up on the screen. Please decrease the size of the picture-in-picture — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 00:38, 16 September 2019 (UTC)
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::[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6asv69_x0o&feature=youtu.be Second try] — [[User:Thedop|Thedop]] ([[User talk:Thedop|talk]]) 06:45, 25 September 2019 (UTC)
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:::The Minigun is still hiding the medic when he's firing... — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 00:07, 30 September 2019 (UTC)
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::::''*sigh*'' Thedop's demonstration has been in hiatus for two years. Maybe I can make my own demonstration if Thedop doesn't mind. — [[User:Exaskliri|Exaskliri]] <sub>(they/them)</sub> ([[User talk:Exaskliri|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Exaskliri|contribs]]) 06:43, 14 April 2022 (UTC)
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:::::Demonstration reservations are only valid for 2 weeks. If the reservation tag remains on a video and no action has happened since, you can ignore the reservation and replace it with a reservation of your own. — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 00:33, 24 April 2022 (UTC)
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::::::Oh, and by the way, don't forget to add a demonstration of healing afterburn (probably the most common type of status effect). [[User:Qwertyxp2000|Qwertyxp2000]] ([[User talk:Qwertyxp2000|talk]]) 23:17, 16 June 2022 (UTC)
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::::::: Definitely doable for making an entry about using Crossbow at point blank range to both hit enemies and heal teammates. [[User:Qwertyxp2000|Qwertyxp2000]] ([[User talk:Qwertyxp2000|talk]]) 21:06, 25 June 2022 (UTC)
  
=={{icon item|Disguise Kit|16px}} [[Disguise Kit]]==
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== {{Demo Header|Dalokohs Bar}} ==
{{c| Disguise kit menu appearance has been updated.}}
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{{c|The model now included the bite mark, the plate model added}}
  
{{c|Changing to a new disguise while already under a disguise takes 0.5 seconds instead of the normal disguise time of 2 seconds}}
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As mentioned on the weapon's page, the overheal bug is still effective since JI and i'm not sure if it's temporary or not.  - '''[[User:Thedop|Thedop]]''' 19:11, 20 Obtober 2018 (UTC+1)
:Is this still needed? I didn't notice any significant changes from before(If any) [[User:JamesCatty|JamesCatty]] ([[User talk:JamesCatty|talk]]) 12:10, 30 October 2014 (PDT)
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:Got this video finished, just need 1 more scene with Thedop.
: Yes, I believe so. "Modified the Disguise Kit menu. It now has a Spy Mask icon in the upper-left corner and a white line above the class portraits." - Quoted from the June 11th patch. <span style="font-family:aharoni; font-size:110%; font-style:;font-weight:bold;">[[File:User_Obilisk_Demo1.png]] [[User:Obilisk|<span style="text-decoration:">Obilisk</span>]]</span> 18:01, 30 October 2014 (PDT)
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:Edit on 27/6/2020: Same thing applies<br>[[User:GrampaSwood|GrampaSwood]] ([[User talk:GrampaSwood|talk]]) 13:12, 9 February 2020 (UTC)
:: Alrighty, I guess I will go ahead and do it when I get time (a few hours) [[User:JamesCatty|JamesCatty]] ([[User talk:JamesCatty|talk]]) 18:15, 30 October 2014 (PDT)
 
  
Would it be worth also showing that being undisguised and invisible won't let you use an enemy dispenser, but being disguised and invisible will?  <span style="font-family:aharoni; font-size:110%; font-style:;font-weight:bold;">[[File:User_Obilisk_Demo1.png]] [[User:Obilisk|<span style="text-decoration:">Obilisk</span>]]</span> 03:27, 10 February 2015 (PST)
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::The video files are on a different PC now, so unlikely I'll ever bother to retrieve them. Someone else can do them at some point.<br>[[File:BLU Wiki Cap.png|20px|link=List of Wiki Cap owners]] | [[Help:Group rights|<span style="color:green;font-family:TF2 Build;">s</span>]] | [[User:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">GrampaSwood</font>]] [[File:PraisetheSun.png|20px|alt=Praise the Sun!]] ([[User talk:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) ([[Special:Contributions/GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">contribs</font>]]) 21:36, 12 November 2023 (UTC)
:The cloak demonstrations already show this but it's not a bad idea to show it here too — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 16:24, 16 February 2015 (PST)
 
  
==[[Dispenser]]==
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A demonstration of the Dalokohs bar https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F8lOulgqmZ4
{{c|Increased base wrench construction speed on hit boost by 50%. Buildings now build 2.5x faster instead of just 2x (additive of 1.5x + base speed)}}
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'''[[User:Wimmer|Wimmer]]''' 23:01, 1 December 2023 (GMT+1)
:{{Reservation|[[File:Charger 2.png|20px|]] [[User:Karmacharger|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Karmacharger</span>]] 3:02 PM 7/27/2015 (PDT)}}
 
::https://youtu.be/bovmOyVHwmI Hopefully this one has no lagging-movements. As usual, will Srcdemo2 the final version [[File:Charger 2.png|20px|]] [[User:Karmacharger|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Karmacharger</span>]] 2:44 AM 9/17/2015 (PDT)
 
:::The Spy clip should use a non-Spy disguise for RED (probably engineer so that the name matches), and might as well disguise into a non-Spy BLU class though because the viewer has already seen that an undisguised Spy doesn't get healed. Rest is good, please srcdemo2 it~ — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 18:45, 26 September 2015 (PDT)
 
  
=={{icon item|Enforcer|16px}} [[Enforcer]]==
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:Looks good.<br>[[File:BLU Wiki Cap.png|20px|link=List of Wiki Cap owners]] | [[Help:Group rights|<span style="color:green;font-family:TF2 Build;">s</span>]] | [[User:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">GrampaSwood</font>]] [[File:PraisetheSun.png|20px|alt=Praise the Sun!]] ([[User talk:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) ([[Special:Contributions/GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">contribs</font>]]) 12:37, 2 December 2023 (UTC)
{{c|Spy no longer smacks himself in the face while reloading a revolver}}
 
  
{{c|Changed +20% damage bonus while undisguised to +20% damage bonus while disguised}}
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::In the loadout scene the heavy is not holding the chocolate. You could also increase the volume by 50%. Everything else is good · [[User:Ashe|<font color="DB9C1F">Ashe</font>]] ([[User talk:Ashe|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) 05:31, 17 February 2024 (UTC)
  
{{reservation/sandbox}} <span style="font-family:aharoni; font-size:110%; font-style:;font-weight:bold;">[[File:User_Obilisk_Demo1.png]] [[User:Obilisk|<span style="text-decoration:">Obilisk</span>]]</span> 02:38, 1 October 2015 (PDT)
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[https://drive.google.com/file/d/18J16uO_PVG_MiDEnopxAG0-ARRbK0qA_/view?usp=sharing Here's V1] of the Dalokohs bar demo [[User:Mediarch|'''Mediarch''']] [[File:User Mediarch PFP.png|25px]][[User:Mediarch|<font color="#ff66cc"> ♥ </font>]][[User talk:Mediarch|'''Talk''']][[User:Mediarch|<font color="#ff66cc"> </font>]][[Special:Contributions/Mediarch|'''My Edits''']] 22:57, 20 April 2024 (UTC)
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:Not sure if it's a bit picky, but I personally think that the recharge scene should involve Heavy eating chocolate off cooldown, so it will show how many chocolates Heavy can eat before the Sandvich recharges. [[User:Qwertyxp2000|Qwertyxp2000]] ([[User talk:Qwertyxp2000|talk]]) 22:07, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
  
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a9IM7gV9JkA&feature=youtu.be How's this?] The split screen HUD doesn't seem to work with the Spy silhouette that appears once a disguise has been picked anymore, which is a shame (0:56). I'll keep looking into a fix, but for now here's the finished demonstration, if I don't find anyway around it, will this be fine as it is? <span style="font-family:aharoni; font-size:110%; font-style:;font-weight:bold;">[[File:User_Obilisk_Demo1.png]] [[User:Obilisk|<span style="text-decoration:">Obilisk</span>]]</span> 03:18, 2 October 2015 (PDT)
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:: [https://drive.google.com/file/d/11Hb4fEVxa7i6rgeR_wRJEkJJCTeRZHzr/view?usp=sharing chocolatev2 with more chocolate eating][[User:Mediarch|'''Mediarch''']] [[File:User Mediarch PFP.png|25px]][[User:Mediarch|<font color="#ff66cc"> </font>]][[User talk:Mediarch|'''Talk''']][[User:Mediarch|<font color="#ff66cc"> </font>]][[Special:Contributions/Mediarch|'''My Edits''']] 22:53, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
: In addition to the previous video I also rendered the [https://youtu.be/R3OpoDZmzBg last clips without the HUD.] The silhouette works, but you can't see what I'm disguising as, and a small section of the HUD is visible in the split screen after disguising. I haven't found a workaround for the silhouette problem, so sadley it looks like these two are our only choices currently. <span style="font-family:aharoni; font-size:110%; font-style:;font-weight:bold;">[[File:User_Obilisk_Demo1.png]] [[User:Obilisk|<span style="text-decoration:">Obilisk</span>]]</span> 17:10, 2 October 2015 (PDT)
 
::I'd go for the first version (silhouette broken, but bottom-left corner shows disguise). Please upload~ — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 21:08, 4 October 2015 (PDT)
 
:: Righto, [http://www.mediafire.com/download/csims9885rl7qqm/Enforcer+demonstration.wmv Download] <span style="font-family:aharoni; font-size:110%; font-style:;font-weight:bold;">[[File:User_Obilisk_Demo1.png]] [[User:Obilisk|<span style="text-decoration:">Obilisk</span>]]</span> 03:20, 5 October 2015 (PDT)
 
  
=={{icon item|Enthusiast's Timepiece|16px}} [[Enthusiast's Timepiece]]==
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== {{Demo Header|Enforcer}} ==
{{c|While invisible, Spy receives 20% less damage from all damage sources}}
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Note: Future redos won't have to do as many status effect clips as the previous video. - '''[[User:Thedop|Thedop]]''' 19:11, 20 October 2018 (UTC+1)
  
{{c|While invisible, Spy has reduced timer on debuffs (fire, jarate, milk, bleed)}}
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== {{Demo Header|Fishcake}} ==
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=={{icon item|Equalizer|16px}} [[Equalizer]]==
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{{c|The model now included the bite mark, the plate model added}}
{{c|Changed no healing penalty to 90% less healing from Medics while active}}
 
  
{{Reservation/sandbox}} <span style="font-family:aharoni; font-size:110%; font-style:;font-weight:bold;">[[File:User_Obilisk_Demo1.png]] [[User:Obilisk|<span style="text-decoration:">Obilisk</span>]]</span> 03:46, 19 September 2015 (PDT)
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See [[#Dalokohs Bar|Dalokohs Bar]]. - '''[[User:Thedop|Thedop]]''' 10:39, 12 October 2018 (UTC+1)
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:Got this video finished, just need 1 more scene with Thedop.
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:Edit on 27/6/2020: Same thing applies<br>[[User:GrampaSwood|GrampaSwood]] ([[User talk:GrampaSwood|talk]]) 13:12, 9 February 2020 (UTC)
  
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YgOtfqtbSWE&feature=youtu.be How's this?] For some reason the demo playback for the Lumbricus Lid wouldn't show the hat on the soldier, so I had to fraps it. Other than that though, what do you thin? Also, do you think it's worth showing the health go from 1 -> 300 in the 3 way splitscreen? It's quite a long clip having it as it is at the moment, that's all. <span style="font-family:aharoni; font-size:110%; font-style:;font-weight:bold;">[[File:User_Obilisk_Demo1.png]] [[User:Obilisk|<span style="text-decoration:">Obilisk</span>]]</span> 13:10, 20 September 2015 (PDT)
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Here is my version of the Fishcake weapon demonstration https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ym8r-gSEm10 - '''[[User:Wimmer|Wimmer]]''' 4:46, 25 November 2023 (GMT+1)
:You can cut the clip at 2:30. It shows nothing that the clip after it doesn't. The dispenser clip ought to be a 2- or 3-way though because it's not clear what the usual rate would be compared to that. — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 18:45, 26 September 2015 (PDT)
 
:: Alright cool. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eB7336j9Gs4&feature=youtu.be How's this?] I made the last clip a 2 way as it fits and works better in my opinion. I synced them up as best as I could, though if one were to pause at some VERY specific points the clips may be 1 HP off of each other. I think the overall splitscreen works tho. <span style="font-family:aharoni; font-size:110%; font-style:;font-weight:bold;">[[File:User_Obilisk_Demo1.png]] [[User:Obilisk|<span style="text-decoration:">Obilisk</span>]]</span> 00:47, 28 September 2015 (PDT)
 
:::Is good, please upload~ — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]]
 
:::: [http://www.mediafire.com/download/82x4b58ew2xocwu/Equalizer+Demonstration.wmv Download] <span style="font-family:aharoni; font-size:110%; font-style:;font-weight:bold;">[[File:User_Obilisk_Demo1.png]] [[User:Obilisk|<span style="text-decoration:">Obilisk</span>]]</span> 03:16, 5 October 2015 (PDT)
 
  
=={{icon item|Escape Plan|16px}} [[Escape Plan]]==
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:You don't need to spin the Heavy around in the Loadout menu, simply hover over the weapon then press escape once you feel like the viewer has had enough time to read the description. When the Soldier fires, you are also getting healed by the Medic at the same time. There is a command to only have bots with a specific weapon fire, not sure what the parameter for the Rocket Launcher is, but using that command bound to a key would be better as it wouldn't temporarily have you healed by the Medic. Alternatively, try to stand in a position where the Medic won't hit you when he heals.
{{c|Changed no healing penalty to 90% less healing from Medics while active}}
 
  
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:It seems like the clip for dropping the Fishcake on the ground is missing, it's meant to demonstrate that picking it up yourself while injured doesn't heal you. It's also not necessary to use voice lines, no need to yell for Medic or say thanks. Although a nice touch, it makes the video feel more like a cartoonish animation video than a demonstration. When the clip with the Medic starts, ideally you would have an unbitten Fishcake, and when the clip of the Soldier starts ideally you'd have max ammo (so 4 loaded, 20 reserve). When killing the Heavy, make sure your hit/killsound is off and that you look at the ammo pack he drops before walking over it. Currently, it looks like walking over a dropped Fishcake gives you health. Also a minor nitpick, friendly classes should be called "Friendly Classname". So rather than "Medic", it should be "Friendly Medic".
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: I like the inspect after eating it, that's not smth that's been done before IIRC but it's a nice touch.<br>[[File:BLU Wiki Cap.png|20px|link=List of Wiki Cap owners]] | [[Help:Group rights|<span style="color:green;font-family:TF2 Build;">s</span>]] | [[User:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">GrampaSwood</font>]] [[File:PraisetheSun.png|20px|alt=Praise the Sun!]] ([[User talk:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) ([[Special:Contributions/GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">contribs</font>]]) 12:12, 25 November 2023 (UTC)
  
I'm unable to render the 6 way splitscreen as the 6 way hud seems to have problems with the new TF2 HUD. Karma said he'll update the HUD soon. Until then this demonstration will be delayed. :( <span style="font-family:aharoni; font-size:110%; font-style:;font-weight:bold;">[[File:User_Obilisk_Demo1.png]] [[User:Obilisk|<span style="text-decoration:">Obilisk</span>]]</span> 04:07, 23 September 2015 (PDT)
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::Thanks for the verifications, I'll make sure to fix all of these issues. And I do too think it's worth inspecting the item after eating it, especially with how the fishcake never had a bit model before.
: My mistake , it appears the 3 way splitscreen was used instead. Expect the demonstration up soon. <span style="font-family:aharoni; font-size:110%; font-style:;font-weight:bold;">[[File:User_Obilisk_Demo1.png]] [[User:Obilisk|<span style="text-decoration:">Obilisk</span>]]</span> 07:03, 24 September 2015 (PDT)
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::'''[[User:Wimmer|Wimmer]]''' 12:14, 28 November 2023 (GMT+1)
  
:: Sorry about the delay, took a while to render, as well as the additional feedback from the Equalizer requiring more clips for the Escape Plan. [https://youtu.be/PacekiPdyEU How's this?] I reorganized the order to be more similar to the Equalizer. I synced the dispenser clip at the end as well as I could. Do you think it still works? I had to have the splitscreens change weapons half way due to the running speed difference would screw up the variables. The dispensers are around 1HP off of each other at times though, much more frequent in this clip than the Equalizer, is this a problem? I synced them as best as I could. Also, the clip with the 3 way splitscreen of me getting shot, I noticed that Armisael used a different hud in the previous video, to show more of the weapon. Is it fine how it is? If not, do you know which HUD Armisael used? <span style="font-family:aharoni; font-size:110%; font-style:;font-weight:bold;">[[File:User_Obilisk_Demo1.png]] [[User:Obilisk|<span style="text-decoration:">Obilisk</span>]]</span> 02:51, 30 September 2015 (PDT)
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::Here is the new version of the Fishcake weapon demonstration with the suggested changes https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Md1n6ei8Z1M
:::So much worrying~ This is fine as-is, please upload~ — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 21:08, 4 October 2015 (PDT)
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::'''[[User:Wimmer|Wimmer]]''' 14:48, 28 November 2023 (GMT+1)
:::: Haha, just doing my part :P [http://www.mediafire.com/download/5oehamsvz1fn3yw/Escape+Plan+Demonstration.wmv Download] <span style="font-family:aharoni; font-size:110%; font-style:;font-weight:bold;">[[File:User_Obilisk_Demo1.png]] [[User:Obilisk|<span style="text-decoration:">Obilisk</span>]]</span> 03:17, 5 October 2015 (PDT)
 
  
=={{icon item|Fan O'War|16px}} [[Fan O'War]]==
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:::In the loadout menu, your mouse should be over the Fishcake the entire time (this can be easily fixed, it only requires editing so no entire redo). The only thing that's missing is a clip of the Medic being on fire and being extinguished (you can skip the Medic walking over it, you can just make it so the Medic is on fire and then you throw it directly at him. Otherwise it requires 2 players). Other than that, it looks good to me, especially the transition between the first clip and the second clip. That must have taken a long time to set up, though do note that it's not entirely necessary if you do feel like it's too much effort, so don't worry about doing that each transition.<br>[[File:BLU Wiki Cap.png|20px|link=List of Wiki Cap owners]] | [[Help:Group rights|<span style="color:green;font-family:TF2 Build;">s</span>]] | [[User:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">GrampaSwood</font>]] [[File:PraisetheSun.png|20px|alt=Praise the Sun!]] ([[User talk:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) ([[Special:Contributions/GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">contribs</font>]]) 14:04, 28 November 2023 (UTC)
{{c|Now crits whenever it would normally mini-crit}}
 
  
{{c|Reduced damage penalty from -90% to -75%}}
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:::Here is the new version of the Fishcake weapon demonstration with the new changes https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xFnrRS-ihbY
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:::'''[[User:Wimmer|Wimmer]]''' 21:22, 29 November 2023 (GMT+1)
  
{{Reservation/sandbox}} <span style="font-family:aharoni; font-size:110%; font-style:;font-weight:bold;">[[File:User_Obilisk_Demo1.png]] [[User:Obilisk|<span style="text-decoration:">Obilisk</span>]]</span> 22:06, 7 August 2015 (PDT)
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::::Yeah looks good, although I swear in previous clips you were damaged when you picked up the Fishcake that was dropped on the floor. If you are going to re-record that, perhaps reload your Rocket Launcher beforehand to make sure it shows you get healed but no ammo. It also doesn't show off the Scout's 25 extra HP from dropped lunchbox items.<br>[[File:BLU Wiki Cap.png|20px|link=List of Wiki Cap owners]] | [[Help:Group rights|<span style="color:green;font-family:TF2 Build;">s</span>]] | [[User:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">GrampaSwood</font>]] [[File:PraisetheSun.png|20px|alt=Praise the Sun!]] ([[User talk:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) ([[Special:Contributions/GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">contribs</font>]]) 20:39, 29 November 2023 (UTC)
  
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQLrIw34AMY&feature=youtu.be How's this?] Luckily my internet has sorted itself out, so I can access the wiki again. I added the clip with the Jarate as I thought it was necessary to show, though it can easily be fixed or removed if you wish. <span style="font-family:aharoni; font-size:110%; font-style:;font-weight:bold;">[[File:User_Obilisk_Demo1.png]] [[User:Obilisk|<span style="text-decoration:">Obilisk</span>]]</span> 01:29, 8 August 2015 (PDT)
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::::Added the reload for Soldier and the scout scene https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OKHJxhkDWxQ
:Should also show if the status expires after a while vs something like the GRU — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 15:56, 16 August 2015 (PDT)
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::::'''[[User:Wimmer|Wimmer]]''' 23:42, 29 November 2023 (GMT+1)
:: I sent you a question a while ago on the IRC. Did you get it? I hope the message didn't expire or something. <span style="font-family:aharoni; font-size:110%; font-style:;font-weight:bold;">[[File:User_Obilisk_Demo1.png]] [[User:Obilisk|<span style="text-decoration:">Obilisk</span>]]</span> 00:40, 5 September 2015 (PDT)
 
:::Sorry, forget about the GRU. I just meant that it should show that it expires after a while at all. The current video always kills the marked victim or switches to another victim before it has a chance to expire. — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 20:21, 9 September 2015 (PDT)
 
:::: Alright, [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oKU0QGcIXg0&feature=youtu.be how's this?] I squeezed it into the first clip. <span style="font-family:aharoni; font-size:110%; font-style:;font-weight:bold;">[[File:User_Obilisk_Demo1.png]] [[User:Obilisk|<span style="text-decoration:">Obilisk</span>]]</span> 06:41, 13 September 2015 (PDT)
 
:::::Is good, please upload~ — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 18:45, 26 September 2015 (PDT)
 
:::::: [http://www.mediafire.com/download/hqfplblwzbgfycq/Fan+%27o+War+DemonstrationNEW.wmv Download] <span style="font-family:aharoni; font-size:110%; font-style:;font-weight:bold;">[[File:User_Obilisk_Demo1.png]] [[User:Obilisk|<span style="text-decoration:">Obilisk</span>]]</span> 23:24, 26 September 2015 (PDT)
 
  
=={{icon item|Fishcake|16px}} [[Fishcake]]==
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::::I just realised I forgot to disable the Killsound again, I’ll have to modify that
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::::'''[[User:Wimmer|Wimmer]]''' 12:12, 30 November 2023 (GMT+1)
  
{{Reservation|[[User:Kobias|kobias]] ([[User talk:Kobias|talk]]) 12:55, 16 September 2015 (PDT)}}
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::::New revision with no killsounds https://youtu.be/tOotHamBl2s
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::::'''[[User:Wimmer|Wimmer]]''' 00:45, 1 December 2023 (GMT+1)
  
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:::::Seems like you're not injured during the clips where you kill the Heavy, other than that I don't see any issues.<br>[[File:BLU Wiki Cap.png|20px|link=List of Wiki Cap owners]] | [[Help:Group rights|<span style="color:green;font-family:TF2 Build;">s</span>]] | [[User:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">GrampaSwood</font>]] [[File:PraisetheSun.png|20px|alt=Praise the Sun!]] ([[User talk:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) ([[Special:Contributions/GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">contribs</font>]]) 00:37, 1 December 2023 (UTC)
  
{{c|Now has 10 second cool down on use}}
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::::::Final edit of the Fishcake Demonstration video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kTVlybWCIf4
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::::::'''[[User:Wimmer|Wimmer]]''' 22:06, 1 December 2023 (GMT+1)
  
{{c|Can now overheal up to 400hp}}
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{{Outdent|6}}Looks good to me.<br>[[File:BLU Wiki Cap.png|20px|link=List of Wiki Cap owners]] | [[Help:Group rights|<span style="color:green;font-family:TF2 Build;">s</span>]] | [[User:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">GrampaSwood</font>]] [[File:PraisetheSun.png|20px|alt=Praise the Sun!]] ([[User talk:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) ([[Special:Contributions/GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">contribs</font>]]) 12:37, 2 December 2023 (UTC)
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:Looks good. Send the link· [[User:Ashe|<font color="DB9C1F">Ashe</font>]] ([[User talk:Ashe|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) 17:49, 17 February 2024 (UTC)
  
{{c|Can be thrown (alt-fire) as a small medkit for other players to use}}
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[https://drive.google.com/file/d/1D7PKA13E0BcQvEVsaRmmDA5yFlp3CLQA/view?usp=drive_link Fishcakev1][[User:Mediarch|'''Mediarch''']] [[File:User Mediarch PFP.png|25px]][[User:Mediarch|<font color="#ff66cc"> ♥ </font>]][[User talk:Mediarch|'''Talk''']][[User:Mediarch|<font color="#ff66cc"> ♥ </font>]][[Special:Contributions/Mediarch|'''My Edits''']] 20:25, 19 April 2024 (UTC)
  
{{c|Updated description to note that this item can be thrown (alt-fire) to supply players with a medkit}}
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:: Should I also include a comparison of how fast it recharges compared to the normal Sandvich? Would just be a quick little sided by side. [[User:Mediarch|'''Mediarch''']] [[File:User Mediarch PFP.png|25px]][[User:Mediarch|<font color="#ff66cc"> ♥ </font>]][[User talk:Mediarch|'''Talk''']][[User:Mediarch|<font color="#ff66cc"> ♥ </font>]][[Special:Contributions/Mediarch|'''My Edits''']] 00:12, 20 April 2024 (UTC)
  
=={{icon item|Force-A-Nature|16px}} [[Force-A-Nature]]==
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:::Yes.<br>[[File:BLU Wiki Cap.png|20px|link=List of Wiki Cap owners]] {{!}} [[Help:Group rights|<span style="color:green;font-family:TF2 Build;">s</span>]] {{!}} [[User:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">GrampaSwood</font>]] [[File:PraisetheSun.png|20px|alt=Praise the Sun!]] ([[User talk:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) ([[Special:Contributions/GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">contribs</font>]]) 08:41, 20 April 2024 (UTC)
{{c|Updated description to better detail the weapon's features.}}
 
:{{Reservation|[[User:Punishment Fatal|Punishment Fatal]] ([[User talk:Punishment Fatal|talk]]) 23:18, 10 October 2015 (PDT)}}
 
::I'll try my hand at it. I've gotten most of the clips down. I just need to put the 2 demos together and get a screen recorder for the loadout.--[[User:Punishment Fatal|Punishment Fatal]] ([[User talk:Punishment Fatal|talk]]) 23:18, 10 October 2015 (PDT)
 
::Edit: I have the demos, but I'm having trouble compressing them. Quicktime doesn't want to let me work in h264 and the tga's have some sort of stop at certain frames when I didn't have in them in the game. How can I use a program that can smooth out the tga's or use a different format while recording a movie to extract the video and audio without stuttering or 1,000 files flooding my TF2?
 
::: If you're talking about bringing the images together to form a clip, personally I use [http://virtualdub.sourceforge.net/ Virtualdub.] After you srcdemo2 and use Virtualdub you can delete all the images you used, as you will have the video. <span style="font-family:aharoni; font-size:110%; font-style:;font-weight:bold;">[[File:User_Obilisk_Demo1.png]] [[User:Obilisk|<span style="text-decoration:">Obilisk</span>]]</span> 01:21, 11 October 2015 (PDT)
 
:::: Yeah, I was using Virtualdub as well. It's just when I was watching the tgas compiled together, I noticed that at certain tgas the game completely halted and froze as if my game was stuttering though in the demo itself there was no visible sign of any framerate drop. [[User:Punishment Fatal|Punishment Fatal]] ([[User talk:Punishment Fatal|talk]]) 01:26, 11 October 2015 (PDT)
 
:::: I've also seemed to have encountered another problem. Everytime I try to open SrcDemo2, it just loads and stops immediately even without opening a window to let me troubleshoot the problem. Do you know how to work around this? Also, should I use OBS for recording the loadout or do you recommend some other program? [[User:Punishment Fatal|Punishment Fatal]] ([[User talk:Punishment Fatal|talk]]) 03:47, 11 October 2015 (PDT)
 
::::: Throw me a friend request, I can help out. [http://www.steamcommunity.com/id/obilisk/ Add me.] <span style="font-family:aharoni; font-size:110%; font-style:;font-weight:bold;">[[File:User_Obilisk_Demo1.png]] [[User:Obilisk|<span style="text-decoration:">Obilisk</span>]]</span> 05:48, 11 October 2015 (PDT)
 
:::::: Alright, I found the problem for Virtualdub. It stuttered since it wasn't an actual player and didn't load all the frames together. However, when I exported the frames, it reduced the quality quite a bit. Is there any way I can keep the quality while converting? [[User:Punishment Fatal|Punishment Fatal]] ([[User talk:Punishment Fatal|talk]]) 13:10, 11 October 2015 (PDT)
 
:::::: Edit: Nevermind, only Windows Media player was showing the quality as blocky. Windows Movie Maker shows it as normal. [[User:Punishment Fatal|Punishment Fatal]] ([[User talk:Punishment Fatal|talk]]) 13:36, 11 October 2015 (PDT)
 
::::::: Alright, here's the [https://youtu.be/SkybTkQ4YXM rough edit] for the Demonstration. I haven't added a loadout option yet or rendered it in SrcDemo2, but I want to hear your guys' critique. (Also thanks again to Obilisk for sending me the training vid music). [[User:Punishment Fatal|Punishment Fatal]] ([[User talk:Punishment Fatal|talk]]) 19:26, 12 October 2015 (PDT)
 
  
: Overall It's looking pretty good so far Punishment Fatal. My only suggestions would be to perhaps not fire two shots every time you intend to shoot. From the looks of your demonstration it seems compulsory to always fire both barrels. I'd say maybe just shoot one shot when you know the other won't be shooting at anything. ( An example is at 0:40 when you kill the medic, one of your shots go to waste. Try killing him with just the amount of bullets you need to, and again straight after, you should only shoot the backboard once.)  Also, the ending sound should merge with the original demonstration music, rather than cutting to no music then bringing it in.  Otherwise, as I said, looking good! <span style="font-family:aharoni; font-size:110%; font-style:;font-weight:bold;">[[File:User_Obilisk_Demo1.png]] [[User:Obilisk|<span style="text-decoration:">Obilisk</span>]]</span> 04:16, 15 October 2015 (PDT)
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:::: [https://drive.google.com/file/d/18rk3bCFdC3APxAyGTyBy9qIY6WkwmsCr/view?usp=sharing Here's V2] with the sandvich comparison [[User:Mediarch|'''Mediarch''']] [[File:User Mediarch PFP.png|25px]][[User:Mediarch|<font color="#ff66cc"> ♥ </font>]][[User talk:Mediarch|'''Talk''']][[User:Mediarch|<font color="#ff66cc"> </font>]][[Special:Contributions/Mediarch|'''My Edits''']] 22:55, 20 April 2024 (UTC)
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:::::Likewise with the Chocolate comment, I sorta believe it would be a good idea to have Heavy eat the fishcake off cooldown just to show how many fishcakes he can eat before the Sandvich recharges. [[User:Qwertyxp2000|Qwertyxp2000]] ([[User talk:Qwertyxp2000|talk]]) 22:11, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
  
: Here's the [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G3x1uctWuBQ&feature=youtu.be fixed edit]. Again, it's pre SrcDemo2 and loadout since I'm still trying to get SrcDemo to work (Dokanlibrary doesn't want to work for me on Windows 8) and I'm trying to decide which program to use for the loadout screen (would OBS be the best option?).
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::::::[https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Z46i8aGJlCRNc1UAAAwm8tNDJo1mFU4A/view?usp=sharing fishcake V3][[User:Mediarch|'''Mediarch''']] [[File:User Mediarch PFP.png|25px]][[User:Mediarch|<font color="#ff66cc"> ♥ </font>]][[User talk:Mediarch|'''Talk''']][[User:Mediarch|<font color="#ff66cc"> ♥ </font>]][[Special:Contributions/Mediarch|'''My Edits''']] 22:57, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
  
:: The clips you have provided are looking very nice. Though, not sure about the blurred transition, I'd say try avoid the blur and just have a transition if possible. Personally I use Fraps to record loadout views, can't say I've experienced much with other programs though I'm sure any one of them would do the trick. <span style="font-family:aharoni; font-size:110%; font-style:;font-weight:bold;">[[File:User_Obilisk_Demo1.png]] [[User:Obilisk|<span style="text-decoration:">Obilisk</span>]]</span> 05:10, 18 October 2015 (PDT)
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== {{Demo Header|Gloves of Running Urgently}} ==
  
=={{icon item|Frontier Justice|16px}} [[Frontier Justice]]==
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{{c|Show the hidden (?) functionality with Dalakohs Bar/Fishcake.}}
  
{{c| Updated description}}
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{{c|Have a section dedicated to see if it's faster to run with the GRU at a certain point + eating the Dalokhs vs. not using the GRU.}}
  
=={{icon item|Golden Wrench|16px}} [[Golden Wrench]]==
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GRU has a hidden (?) functionality with the chocolate bar which can regenerate all the health lost upon eating. Not shown on the demonstration video, should it be? [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MvV_CnCpezo Video about the functionality]. I am also not sure if this should be a thing on the Daloks/Fishcake video or GRU (or both). [[File:User Gabrielwoj Signature Icon.png|15px|link=User:Gabrielwoj]] - [[File:User Gabrielwoj Signature 1.png|link=User:Gabrielwoj]] ▪ [[File:User Gabrielwoj Signature 2.png|link=Special:Contribs/Gabrielwoj]] - [[File:User Gabrielwoj Signature 3.png|link=User talk:Gabrielwoj]] 14:29, 14 August 2021 (UTC)
{{c|Increased base wrench construction speed on hit boost by 50%. Buildings now build 2.5x faster instead of just 2x (additive of 1.5x + base speed)}}
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:It's most likely a glitch and not intended. Yes, it's been out since forever, but so are other glitches out there, and these videos typically don't demonstrate these, in order to avoid a redo in case valve ever fixes them (lol, I know). — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 05:03, 17 September 2021 (UTC)
  
{{c|Teleporters and Dispensers redeploy +50% faster (2.5x without wrench boost, 5.5x with wrench boost)}}
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== {{Demo Header|Holiday Punch}} ==
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{{c|Does not demonstrate that disguised spies do not laugh from Holiday Punch.}}
  
{{c|Building pick up speed penalty reduced from 25% to 10%}}
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{{c|Does not demonstrate interaction between cloaked spies and Holiday Punch crits.}}
  
{{c|Building repair costs increased from 20 metal to 33 metal to repair 100hp per wrench hit (from 5HP per metal to 3HP per metal)}}
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I kind of felt Holiday Punch could possibly be redone such that it demonstrates its interaction with cloaked and disguised spies. [[User:Qwertyxp2000|Qwertyxp2000]] ([[User talk:Qwertyxp2000|talk]]) 08:11, 17 March 2020 (UTC)
:The only way i can get the Golden Wrench, Golden Pan and Saxxy is to use a plugin called [TF2Items Giveweapon] for Sourcemod and install it in a Dedicated server. With that plugin you can give yourself any weapon. So the problem is, any recorded demos in a Dedicated server with plugins installed the movement will not be smooth, exactly what happened to my Mini-Sentry video, and the clips where the movement are not smoother was recorded in my Dedicated server. Well i don't know what causes the problem and i can't figure it out. I recorded a video of it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AiWA7MdoRLk That would be really nice if Valve can actually borrow these just for recording demonstrations :> [[File:Charger 2.png|20px|]] [[User:Karmacharger|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Karmacharger</span>]] 1:09 AM 8/14/2015 (PDT)
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:Not very practical, but sure, if anyone's up for it — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 04:11, 24 April 2020 (UTC)
::The demo doesn't look that bad to me. Another way you could do this is by playing on a custom server with that mode and with <code>host_timescale 0.1</code>. Record both the demo and fraps at the same time. Then speed up the video 10x with frameblending and you'll get something that's a bit like SrcDemo2 would give you (it's equivalent to 10 fpf and 360 shutter angle). Then you can play the demo at <code>demo_timescale 1.0</code> to get the audio out of it. Merge it into one video, add the backpack view, then add in the pre-echo'd versions of the Golden Wrench sound lines. It's not easy but can be done. This demonstration is a one-of-a-kind and it's hard to make, yes. [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 15:56, 16 August 2015 (PDT)
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::Not sure if I have to create a new section for the Holiday Punch or add information on an already existing one, but there's several things that probably should also be demonstrated:
:::[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qIqjTOShnEg Wow, it actually worked!] It just a test, i used "Smart resample" for the clip, and speed it up x10. [[File:Charger 2.png|20px|]] [[User:Karmacharger|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Karmacharger</span>]] 12:30 AM 9/26/2015 (PDT)
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::{{c|Demonstrate that enemies underwater doesn't laugh on the back / critical hits, which therefore, they don't receive damage}} (The map used for demonstrations does not have water, though)
::::Video looks good but the audio is badly synced. The hit sound should start just a few frames before the hit happens. An easier way to sync is to look at the enemy's lips and do lipsyncing on their "ow" voice lines. Also (I know it's just a test but just putting it out there just in case), remember to add in all the golden wrench voice lines on each kill. 4 enemies, 4 lines. You can make this easier by overwriting the engineer .wav files with blank audio, that way he doesn't accidentally speak when killing. Then you can add the 4 golden wrench voice lines later. — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 18:45, 26 September 2015 (PDT)
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::{{c|Demonstrate that punching an enemy at the back / doing a critical hit on an enemy that is jumping / is on the air, has no effect, and does no damage}}
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::{{c|Demonstrate that it's possible to tickle enemies that are being Ubercharged, possibly include both the patient and the Medic being tickled}}
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::* Tickle the patient first, show that it's still in the effects of Uber, and tickle the Medic second, that would probably be more ideal, so it shows that when a Medic is tickled, his target loses the healing / ubercharge
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::* Perhaps also demonstrate the Quick-Fix ubercharge, since it mentions it blocks "movement-impairing effects", which isn't the case for the Holiday Punch (I'm pretty sure you can still get tickled with the Quick-Fix uber)
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::{{c|Demonstrate that a Scout with the effects of Bonk! can be tickled}}
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::{{c|Demonstrate that a Soldier with the Battalion's Backup active, as well his teammates receiving the Backup effect, can still be tickled}}
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:: A few other ones that I am unsure about:
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::{{c|Demonstrate that it's not possible to tickle robots and giant robots on MVM}} (I don't think we often make MVM-related stuff on these demonstrations, unless it's an unique mechanic like the Projectile Shield)
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::{{c|Demonstrate that an enemy who is taunting does not get tickled, and that it receives no damage on critical hits}} [[File:User Gabrielwoj Signature Icon.png|15px|Headphones style when?|link=User:Gabrielwoj]] - [[File:User Gabrielwoj Signature 1.png|link=User:Gabrielwoj]] ▪ [[File:User Gabrielwoj Signature 2.png|link=Special:Contribs/Gabrielwoj]] - [[File:User Gabrielwoj Signature 3.png|link=User talk:Gabrielwoj]] 04:23, 24 April 2022 (UTC)
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:::The <code>tr_karma_rc1</code> map has water (see [[Sydney Sleeper]] demonstration [https://youtu.be/95qD-3XF8ws?t=132 here]). I use that map for demonstrations, as it is preferred (according to the Weapon Demonstration page). [[User:Exaskliri|Exaskliri]] <sub>({{gender:Exaskliri|he/him|she/her|they/them}})</sub> ([[User talk:Exaskliri|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Exaskliri|contribs]]) 09:23, 24 April 2022 (UTC)
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:::No to the Quick-Fix + Bonk + Battalion's Backup things; as the project page states, non-stock item interactions are usually not demonstrated, in order to avoid having a full explosion of weapon interactions to demonstrate. The Quick Fix one also sounds like a bug, so usually that isn't worth demonstrating either because it has marginal utility and may eventually get patched, which would just create more video work later down the line. But all the other points are good to demonstrate, so +1 that a redo is in order for this one — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 04:49, 12 May 2022 (UTC)
  
=={{icon item|Golden Frying Pan|16px}} [[Golden Frying Pan]]==
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I have an idea on how the new video might be represented:
{{c|Increased base wrench construction speed on hit boost by 50%. Buildings now build 2.5x faster instead of just 2x (additive of 1.5x + base speed)}}
 
  
{{c|Teleporters and Dispensers redeploy +50% faster (2.5x without wrench boost, 5.5x with wrench boost)}}
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'''Part 1: The Main Gang (Pyro, Soldier, Medic, Spy)'''
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*Do the same actions as was done in the original video
  
{{c|Building pick up speed penalty reduced from 25% to 10%}}
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'''Part 2: Basic Interactions'''
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Do the same actions as was done in the original video, demonstrating Kritzkrieg on Soldier (via friendly Medic) and Jarate on Demoman (via friendly Sniper), plus another for Medic interactions.
  
{{c|Building repair costs increased from 20 metal to 33 metal to repair 100hp per wrench hit (from 5HP per metal to 3HP per metal)}}
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'''Part 2a:'''
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# Approach friendly Kritzkrieg Medic, who has full charge
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# Get charged with the Kritzkrieg buff
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# Keep punching the enemy Soldier until the buff wears off
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# Punch again while the buff is off, and keep doing it until the Soldier dies
  
Yes, for the Engineer it functions as a Wrench, and all the Wrench things are demonstrated in this video. - [[User:Uufje|Uufje]] 01:40, 3 July 2015 (PDT)
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'''Part 2b:'''
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# Approach friendly Sniper holding Jarate
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# Let the Sniper throw Jarate at the enemy Demoman
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# Attack the Demoman normally while he is Jarated
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# Attack the Demoman from behind while he is Jarated
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# Kill the Demoman normally again while he is Jarated
  
=={{icon item|Gunslinger|16px}} [[Gunslinger]]==
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'''Part 2c:'''
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# '''(This is where the new stuff begins)''' Approach an enemy Medic who is healing a <s>friendly</s> enemy Scout with his Medi Gun
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# Attack the Scout from the front and behind
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# Enemy Medic activate Medi Gun invulnerability
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# Do the same as Step 2 onto Scout except while Übercharged
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# Do the same as Step 4 except on Medic
  
{{c|Increased base wrench construction speed on hit boost by 50%. Buildings now build 2.5x faster instead of just 2x (additive of 1.5x + base speed)}}
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'''Part 3: Versus Mittens Heavy'''
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# Approach the enemy Mittens Heavy
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# Attack the Mittens Heavy with your Holiday Punch. Watch him laugh.
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# Let the Mittens Heavy attack you with his Holiday Punch. Watch yourself laugh.
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# Mittens Heavy will swap out Holiday Punch for Minigun.
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# Attack the Heavy with your Holiday Punch.
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# Swap your Holiday Punch for the Shotgun
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# Mittens Heavy will swap out Minigun for Holiday Punch
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# Let the Mittens Heavy attack you with his Holiday Punch.
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# '''(This is where the new stuff begins)''' Jump, and while mid-air let the Mittens Heavy attack you with his Holiday Punch. There should be no laugh.
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# Go behind the Mitten Heavy's back
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# Let the Mittens Heavy jump, and attack the Mittens Heavy with your Holiday Punch. There should be no laugh.
  
{{c|Teleporters and Dispensers redeploy +50% faster (2.5x without wrench boost, 5.5x with wrench boost)}}
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'''Part 4: Spy Interactions'''
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View from the Heavy's and Spy's points of view, with a smaller video on the top-right (or something like that) for the Spy's point of view.
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# Approach the enemy Spy
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# Let the enemy Spy cloak
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# Attack the Spy with your Holiday Punch from behind. There should be no laugh.
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# Let the enemy Spy uncloak and disguise as any class (maybe the Heavy again)
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# Attack the Spy with your Holiday Punch from behind. There should be no laugh.
  
{{c|Building pick up speed penalty reduced from 25% to 10%}}
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'''Part 5: Taunts and Water'''
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# Let the enemy Engineer taunt from his Shotgun. It should be the one where he dances around.
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# While the enemy Engineer is taunting, attack him from behind with the Holiday Punch. There should be no laugh.
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# Repeat Steps 1 and 2 except attack him from the front.
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# The enemy Engineer runs to the water. Follow him into the water.
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# Attack him from behind with the Holiday Punch. There should be no laugh.
  
{{c|Building repair costs increased from 20 metal to 33 metal to repair 100hp per wrench hit (from 5HP per metal to 3HP per metal)}}
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'''Part 6: Robots'''
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# Approach an enemy Robot, preferably the Holiday Punch Heavy Robot.
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# Attack him with your Holiday Punch from the front, and then attack him from behind. There should be no laugh.
  
{{c|Mini Sentries can now be repaired and wrench construction boosted}}
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<s>[[User:Qwertyxp2000|Qwertyxp2000]] ([[User talk:Qwertyxp2000|talk]]) 02:49, 8 June 2022 (UTC)</s> <s>[[User:Qwertyxp2000|Qwertyxp2000]] ([[User talk:Qwertyxp2000|talk]]) 02:51, 8 June 2022 (UTC)</s> [[User:Qwertyxp2000|Qwertyxp2000]] ([[User talk:Qwertyxp2000|talk]]) 10:08, 8 June 2022 (UTC)
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:Very detailed, nice. — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 22:48, 19 June 2022 (UTC)
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::By the way, I also think that it would be helpful to add a section dedicating to observing a duration comparison for all [[Schadenfreude]] taunts. I have a feeling that the length of the taunt has an impact on gameplay of the Holiday Punch. So maybe we could do a section where 9 Holiday Punch Heavies simultaneously attack one of each class, which demonstrates the time it would take to get out of the forced animation.  [[User:Qwertyxp2000|Qwertyxp2000]] ([[User talk:Qwertyxp2000|talk]]) 01:41, 22 June 2022 (UTC)
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:::Might be cool if only for the comedy of it all. — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 21:39, 31 July 2022 (UTC)
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::::On "Part 4 - Let the enemy Spy uncloak and disguise as any class (maybe the Heavy again)", why not make the Spy disguise as the Heavy, and make sure that the Holiday Punch is active? The Spy won't be able to laugh, but I wonder if you (the player), would laugh. In case that happens, then it would be important to also showcase trying to punch the Spy from behind without having him with the Holiday Punch active. [[File:User Gabrielwoj Signature Icon.png|15px|Headphones style when?|link=User:Gabrielwoj]] - [[File:User Gabrielwoj Signature 1.png|link=User:Gabrielwoj]] ▪ [[File:User Gabrielwoj Signature 2.png|link=Special:Contribs/Gabrielwoj]] - [[File:User Gabrielwoj Signature 3.png|link=User talk:Gabrielwoj]] 03:19, 18 February 2023 (UTC)
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:::::Actually, never mind. For some reason I thought you also laughed with who you just punched that is also wearing the mittens (it commonly happens when both Heavies hold their left clicks after being tickled). But, the Spy wearing the Holiday Punch may be the best scenario here, so it shows that the disguise is not lost (although make sure to show also without the mittens active, and, when the mittens is active for Spy, punch him from the back, then punch him from the front). [[File:User Gabrielwoj Signature Icon.png|15px|Headphones style when?|link=User:Gabrielwoj]] - [[File:User Gabrielwoj Signature 1.png|link=User:Gabrielwoj]] ▪ [[File:User Gabrielwoj Signature 2.png|link=Special:Contribs/Gabrielwoj]] - [[File:User Gabrielwoj Signature 3.png|link=User talk:Gabrielwoj]] 13:08, 18 February 2023 (UTC)
  
{{c|Mini Sentry base build speed decreased. Mini Sentries that are wrench boosted build slightly faster than previously.}}
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== {{Demo Header|Original}} ==
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{{Reservation|[[User:MudkipOnYT|MudkipOnYT]] ([[User talk:MudkipOnYT|talk]]) 18:23, 5 April 2024 (UTC)}}
  
{{c|Mini Sentries start at 50% health on construction and gain health during construction instead of starting at 100%}}
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Old Reservation (5th January 2024)
  
=={{icon item|Homewrecker|16px}} [[Homewrecker]]==
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{{c|Missing new reload sound}}
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I'd say this is an incredibly low priority one, may not even be worth redoing.<br>[[User:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">GrampaSwood</font>]] ([[User talk:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) 11:23, 17 January 2023 (UTC)
  
{{c|Updated description to better detail the weapon's features.}}
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I hope I've done this correctly, I am just beginning to get to work setting up to film my demonstration — [[User:MudkipOnYT|MudkipOnYT]] ([[User talk:MudkipOnYT|talk]]) 18:23, 5 April 2024 (UTC)
  
{{Reservation/sandbox}} <span style="font-family:aharoni; font-size:110%; font-style:;font-weight:bold;">[[File:User_Obilisk_Demo1.png]] [[User:Obilisk|<span style="text-decoration:">Obilisk</span>]]</span> 22:23, 17 October 2015 (PDT)
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[https://drive.google.com/file/d/1AFvw7WW2T2ND179t1MBsemdeGDrhApZV/view?usp=share_link Here is the link] to my finished demonstration, I noticed other users who uploaded to Google Drive being told by the Moderators that their videos were in 30FPS. This one is at 60FPS, it just doesn't play at 60FPS in the Google Drive embedded player, it must be downloaded. Awaiting feedback! — [[User:MudkipOnYT|MudkipOnYT]] ([[User talk:MudkipOnYT|talk]]) 12:10, 6 April 2024 (UTC)
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:In the firing angle demonstrations, wait for about 3 seconds before commencing the firing. The rightwards angle demonstration is a bit too quick. Same with the frontal angle demonstration. Also, for the rocket jumping demonstration, don't wiggle around the screen so much during those idle phases; 1:29-1:31 are quite noticeably obvious. [[User:Qwertyxp2000|Qwertyxp2000]] ([[User talk:Qwertyxp2000|talk]]) 22:03, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
  
I don't think this needs to be redone. The current Demonstration's description is identical to the Homewrecker's at the moment. <span style="font-family:aharoni; font-size:110%; font-style:;font-weight:bold;">[[File:User_Obilisk_Demo1.png]] [[User:Obilisk|<span style="text-decoration:">Obilisk</span>]]</span> 00:36, 10 September 2015 (PDT)
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Yeah I notice all of that now, can just go and re-record it at some point, I also interrupted the reload animation at the beginning. - [[User:MudkipOnYT|MudkipOnYT]] ([[User talk:MudkipOnYT|talk]]) 10:05, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
  
: The difference is the text has been updated from "100% damage vs buildings" to "+100% damage vs buildings" adding a "+" before the number to correct the attribute to how it's supposed to be calculated.
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== {{Demo Header|Power Up Canteen}} ==
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{{c|doesn't show Canteen Specialist upgrades like Battery Canteens demo does}}
  
: 100% would mean 65 damage.
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I feel like I can do a demonstration for this one. But my canteen is a crafted version so it has my username on it. Is that acceptable ? [[User:Kaezle|Kaezle]] ([[User talk:Kaezle|talk]]) 04:21, 25 August 2019 (UTC)
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: If you right click on it you should be able to remove that. [[User:Naleksuh|Naleksuh]] ([[User talk:Naleksuh|talk]]) 06:22, 25 August 2019 (UTC)
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::I think the stock version (Normal quality) should be used over the Unique one, considering all players have it. [[File:User Gabrielwoj Signature Icon.png|15px|link=User:Gabrielwoj]] - [[File:User Gabrielwoj Signature 1.png|link=User:Gabrielwoj]] ▪ [[File:User Gabrielwoj Signature 2.png|link=Special:Contribs/Gabrielwoj]] - [[File:User Gabrielwoj Signature 3.png|link=User talk:Gabrielwoj]] 04:23, 14 August 2021 (UTC)
  
: +100% means 130 damage.
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== {{Demo Header|Sandvich}} ==
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{{c|Show that a dropped plate doesn't heal}}
  
: The current demonstration has the outdated wrong description though. [[User:InstantMan|InstantMan]] ([[User talk:InstantMan|talk]]) 06:31, 10 September 2015 (PDT)
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Hinaomi recommended this, so might as well try it. I would be up to make it if it's a valid reason [[User:GrampaSwood|GrampaSwood]] ([[User talk:GrampaSwood|talk]]) 12:02, 13 September 2019 (UTC)
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:Not sure I follow. You mean that picking up a dropped plate restocks the sandvich? That's already demonstrated... — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 00:38, 16 September 2019 (UTC)
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::Show that picking up a sandvich that's dropped via mouse2 doesn't heal.<br>[[User:GrampaSwood|GrampaSwood]] ([[User talk:GrampaSwood|talk]]) 05:30, 16 September 2019 (UTC)
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:::Oh OK, yeah. Might replace the existing pickup from full health then, so that it doesn't make the clip longer. — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 04:28, 23 September 2019 (UTC)
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::::Sure. Yes, please replace the existing pickup. — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 04:11, 24 April 2020 (UTC)
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:Just talked on the IRC channel today ([https://irc.biringa.com/channel/tfwiki/2022-04-18.html#07-53-57 log]) and GrampaSwood willingly relinquished the reservation for me. I am gonna focus on my reservations first, though. [[User:Exaskliri|Exaskliri]] <sub>(they/them)</sub> ([[User talk:Exaskliri|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Exaskliri|contribs]]) 15:54, 18 April 2022 (UTC)
  
:: Ah alright, didn't look that close. Nice. <span style="font-family:aharoni; font-size:110%; font-style:;font-weight:bold;">[[File:User_Obilisk_Demo1.png]] [[User:Obilisk|<span style="text-decoration:">Obilisk</span>]]</span> 19:03, 10 September 2015 (PDT)
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== {{Demo Header|Self-Aware Beauty Mark}} ==
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{{Reservation|[[User:KingK|KingK]] ([[User talk:KingK|talk]]) 04:16, 6 January 2024 (UTC)}}
  
=={{icon item|Horseless Headless Horsemann's Headtaker|16px}} [[Horseless Headless Horsemann's Headtaker]]==
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{{c|Updated description. (Also handy for putting out a fire)}}
  
{{c|Updated description to better detail the weapon's features.}}
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{{c|Extinguish an ally reduces the cooldown by 20%}}
  
=={{icon item|Huo-Long Heater|16px}} [[Huo-Long Heater]]==
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[https://imgur.com/a/4bwI65r A funny bug] but i think i better waiting for Valve to fix it. - '''[[User:Thedop|Thedop]]''' 10:35, 12 October 2018 (UTC+1)
  
{{c|Updated description to better detail the weapon's features.}}
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Hey there, I decided I'd help out on this
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Hopefully around Jan 8-9 would be where I have everything for this demonstration. [[User:KingK|KingK]] ([[User talk:KingK|talk]]) 04:16, 6 January 2024 (UTC)
  
=={{icon item|Invis Watch|16px}} [[Invis Watch]]==
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Alright I got it all right here.
{{c|While invisible, Spy receives 20% less damage from all damage sources}}
 
  
{{c|While invisible, Spy has reduced timer on debuffs (fire, jarate, milk, bleed)}}
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[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JM1TOt4zxiw Video]
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- [[User:KingK|KingK]] ([[User talk:KingK|talk]]) 03:51, 10 January 2024 (UTC)
  
{{Reservation/sandbox}} <span style="font-family:aharoni; font-size:110%; font-style:;font-weight:bold;">[[File:User_Obilisk_Demo1.png]] [[User:Obilisk|<span style="text-decoration:">Obilisk</span>]]</span> 06:02, 3 October 2015 (PDT)
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:Seems like your graphics settings aren't on the max, the windows on tr_karma also seem to be bugged. For the first clip, your kill sound should be turned off. For the second clip, make sure to switch all the bots back to the Shotgun. For the third clip, the clip is quite laggy and the sound suddenly increases halfway through. Fourth clip looks fine, albeit with some quality issues as mentioned before. For the first Spy clip, make sure to wait until he's fully invisible to throw the Jarate on him. Splitting up the cloaked and disguised Spy clip like this is better imo, rather than having it be one clip like the original. In the clip where you extinguish 3 teammates, it's fine to just use a single Heavy for that rather than 3 teammates. Maybe 3 clips at the same time would also be suitable for this: one to show off no extinguish, one to show off 1 extinguish, and one to show off extinguishing 2 teammates. It would show that 1 ally extinguished and 2 allies extinguished equally reduces the cooldown.
  
Alright so in order to show the reduced timers on the debuffs, would you prefer 3 way or 2 way splitscreens? I have examples of the two. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iVrt1RtHyqc&feature=youtu.be 2 way] [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LqUSV3Sj4R4&feature=youtu.be 3 way] Which do you think works better? Also should I show all of them? Or for example not show the Milk, as Jarate's practically the same? And do you think they should all be from the Spy's POV? Or perhaps from the 'Attacker's?' Also, which weapon would you suggest to show the bleed effect? I was thinking perhaps a cleaver, but if the Scout's standing where the Pyro is in the example clip I showed you and threw it, would viewers understand that he's indeed throwing a cleaver? Just wanting to clear this up before I srcdemo2 all the clips. Phew. Those are a lot of questions for ya :P <span style="font-family:aharoni; font-size:110%; font-style:;font-weight:bold;">[[File:User_Obilisk_Demo1.png]] [[User:Obilisk|<span style="text-decoration:">Obilisk</span>]]</span> 04:30, 7 October 2015 (PDT)
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:Other than that, remember to stand still between each clip. It seems like this was most notable on the clip with you and the Heavy being extinguished. The minimum acceptable video quality would be 1080p 60fps, perhaps recording only at that resolution rather than 4k will help with running the game a bit smoother, as currently some clips are very laggy even on 1080p.<br>[[File:BLU Wiki Cap.png|20px|link=List of Wiki Cap owners]] | [[Help:Group rights|<span style="color:green;font-family:TF2 Build;">s</span>]] | [[User:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">GrampaSwood</font>]] [[File:PraisetheSun.png|20px|alt=Praise the Sun!]] ([[User talk:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) ([[Special:Contributions/GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">contribs</font>]]) 11:48, 10 January 2024 (UTC)
:There's no need to show all debuffs. The 2-way split-screen clip there already shows everything except the fact that it's not fire-specific. I'd opt for 2 2-way clips: One for damage, such as the flare gun already done there, and then one with the Jarate, because the on-screen effect is obvious when it's gone and because it's one that's easily recognized as a debuff. — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 17:13, 10 October 2015 (PDT)
 
::Take a look at my [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S9_52YT-R74 Quäckenbirdt video]. Since it was already accepted, it should give a good hint of what it should look like.
 
::: Thanks, I already had the clips recorded, but they're practically identical. Good to see! <span style="font-family:aharoni; font-size:110%; font-style:;font-weight:bold;">[[File:User_Obilisk_Demo1.png]] [[User:Obilisk|<span style="text-decoration:">Obilisk</span>]]</span> 18:02, 17 October 2015 (PDT)
 
:::: Alright [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6g9JHdKozaM how's this?] Sorry for the massive delay, been very busy IRL. I've combined some clips throughout as I thought it looked better. I've also added a few small things that I thought should be shown (Such as me shooting the invisible spy at 4:07) However, you tell me if it should be different. Also, when I disguised and used the teleporter at 2:21 I had to disguise as a spy, otherwise my shadow would glitch and show the class' weapon that I disguised as on my shadow. (So the Pyro's flamethrower would show up on the spy's silhouette for example.) For some reason the glitch only occurred in that clip. Also, expect me to be a taking a little longer with demonstrations in the near future, as my schedule is really getting filled up. <span style="font-family:aharoni; font-size:110%; font-style:;font-weight:bold;">[[File:User_Obilisk_Demo1.png]] [[User:Obilisk|<span style="text-decoration:">Obilisk</span>]]</span> 21:53, 17 October 2015 (PDT)
 
  
=={{icon item|Iron Bomber|16px}} [[Iron Bomber]]==
 
{{c|Removed damage penalty on self-detonate}}
 
  
{{c|Reduced radius penalty from -20% to -15%}}
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::Aight will get working on it, Thanks Grampa Swood  [[User:KingK|KingK]] ([[User talk:KingK|talk]]) 11:52, 10 January 2024 (UTC)
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::Here's the newly updated video
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::[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_3_hfEnpB4 Video]
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::[[User:KingK|KingK]] ([[User talk:KingK|talk]]) 15:54, 12 January 2024 (UTC)
  
{{Reservation/sandbox}} <span style="font-family:aharoni; font-size:110%; font-style:;font-weight:bold;">[[File:User_Obilisk_Demo1.png]] [[User:Obilisk|<span style="text-decoration:">Obilisk</span>]]</span> 03:40, 15 September 2015 (PDT)
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:::The video still looks laggy. It was not recorded at 60 fps. Also your antialiasing settings are still low. Use 4x or 8x.
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:::The video still has some problems. General: You wait too much between clips. When using half/third width clips don't disabled the HUD. I know that sometimes the elements look out of place but that can be fixed by editing the hud. First clip: The jar being misplaced is not your fault, but I think I can send a fix here. Second clip: The demoman should hit his 2 pipes instead of trying to kill the medic with rollers. 4th clip: I think you recorded the clips with normal width. Use half-width. 5th clip: The spy clips are now similar to the mad milk video. That's good, however, don't separate the spy clips. Record the clip in one shot. 6th clip: wait a bit before extinguishing yourself and the heavy. 7th clip: again, don't hide the hud. Final clip: It still shows the match hud bar. You can fix this by reloading the hud using hud_reloadscheme. · [[User:Ashe|<font color="DB9C1F">Ashe</font>]] ([[User talk:Ashe|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) 22:30, 24 January 2024 (UTC)
  
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YrlZUzo7GRs&feature=youtu.be How's this?] Call me lazy, but many of the clips I was able to reuse, since the weapon functioned identically in those clips. Also, at the end of the first clip I hit the backboard with a roller grenade. I've always been meaning to ask, does this matter? Or should I always hit them with a direct hit in future grenade launcher demonstrations? <span style="font-family:aharoni; font-size:110%; font-style:;font-weight:bold;">[[File:User_Obilisk_Demo1.png]] [[User:Obilisk|<span style="text-decoration:">Obilisk</span>]]</span> 03:34, 16 September 2015 (PDT)
 
:Nice jump. It doesn't really matter how you hit the wooden target at the back, the point of that is to show the projectile trajectory over a long distance. Is good, please upload~ — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 18:45, 26 September 2015 (PDT)
 
:: Awesome, good to hear. [http://www.mediafire.com/download/2cvruuhws4ju4wo/Iron+Bomber+Demonstration.wmv Download] <span style="font-family:aharoni; font-size:110%; font-style:;font-weight:bold;">[[File:User_Obilisk_Demo1.png]] [[User:Obilisk|<span style="text-decoration:">Obilisk</span>]]</span> 23:23, 26 September 2015 (PDT)
 
  
=={{icon item|Jag|16px}} [[Jag]]==
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== {{Demo Header|Chargin' Targe}}, {{Demo Header|Tide Turner}}, and {{Demo Header|Splendid Screen}} ==
{{c|With the change to Base Construction boost, Jag bonus has improved.}}
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Should these be redone to show that they remove debuffs such as Jarate, bleeding, afterburn, etc.? If so, which effects should I specifically show?<br>[[User:GrampaSwood|GrampaSwood]] ([[User talk:GrampaSwood|talk]]) 08:31, 25 June 2020 (UTC)
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:{{c|yes}}, the effects that should show are just some of them, not all
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:* Soaking, Jarate is preferable as it make the screen yellow tint.
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:* Fire, simple burn from Flamethrower.
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:* Bleeding, from Southern Hospitality?
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:* Mark for death, from Fan O'War
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:I think those are all. [[File:User Hinaomi Hinaomi-sig.png|link=User:Hinaomi]] [[User:Hinaomi|Rikka Takanashi]] <small>([[User talk:Hinaomi|talk]]) • ([[Special:Contributions/Hinaomi|contributions]])</small> 12:47, 25 June 2020 (UTC)
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::Yes, that would all be good. — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 05:44, 8 July 2020 (UTC)
  
{{c|Added +15% swing speed.}}
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== {{Demo Header|Quick-Fix}} ==
  
{{c|Added 20% repair penalty. Repairs will give up to 80hp per swing instead 100hp per swing.}}
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<div class="mw-collapsible mw-collapsed" style="width:100%">
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Old reservation (29 April 2021)
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<div class="mw-collapsible-content" style="width:100%; text-align:left">
  
{{c|Teleporters and Dispensers redeploy +50% faster (2.5x without wrench boost, 5.5x with wrench boost)}}
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{{c|What I've done in addition to the existing one (the timestamp in the parentheses are the old/new ones):}}
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# ([https://youtu.be/mWbjD7LjtVg?t=74 1:14]/[https://youtu.be/hj5FuFVFV2U?t=84 1:24]) On the first scene demonstrating the Quick-Fix's basic functions, I did the same as the old one, plus damaging myself and the patient Heavy while being Ubered, demonstrating that the Quick-Fix's Uber doesn't reduce incoming damage. I also damaged myself (the Medic) twice instead of once.
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# ([https://youtu.be/mWbjD7LjtVg?t=129 2:09]/[https://youtu.be/hj5FuFVFV2U?t=159 2:39]) When demonstrating the Quick-Fix's heal rate in comparison to the stock [[Medi Gun]], while mostly the same, I used a recently-injured Heavy, so that the heal rate (for each medigun) is at the slowest. I used an offscreen pistol Engineer (hence why the starting HP is 14), teleport commands, and <code>r_cleardecals</code>, so it should look neat.
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# ([https://youtu.be/mWbjD7LjtVg?t=137 2:17]/[https://youtu.be/hj5FuFVFV2U?t=181 3:01]) I demonstrated the knockback immunity from Quick-Fix's Uber the same way, but now there's health and Ubercharge HUD.
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# ([https://youtu.be/mWbjD7LjtVg?t=176 2:56]/[https://youtu.be/hj5FuFVFV2U?t=227 3:47]) I did the "mirror blast jumping" part outdoors, although it might not look neat. I'm sorry.
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# ([https://youtu.be/mWbjD7LjtVg?t=206 3:26]/[https://youtu.be/hj5FuFVFV2U?t=257 4:17]) I demonstrated crit healing (after the recipient doesn't take damage for 10-15 seconds) with the Quick-Fix's Uber in addition to the non-Uber Quick-Fix. Yes, the 3x healing rate Uber stacks with the crit heal.
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# ([https://youtu.be/mWbjD7LjtVg?t=233 3:53]/[https://youtu.be/hj5FuFVFV2U?t=416 6:56]) I redid the "Uber build rate comparison on different HP threshold" because the old one didn't have the Quick-Fix as the second healing beam, hence it doesn't explain if the second healing beam alone would slow down the Quick-Fix's Uber build rate (the Quick-Fix has 125% maximum overheal, lower than the usual Uber build rate penalty at 142.5% overheal).
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# ([https://youtu.be/mWbjD7LjtVg?t=266 4:26]/[https://youtu.be/hj5FuFVFV2U?t=306 5:06]) I demonstrated the Quick-Fix maximum overheal limit and decay rate on Scout vs. Heavy as well as comparing it to the stock [[Medi Gun]]'s overheal in addition to the "maintain overheal above 125%" that the old video demonstrated. For the last part, I only used one Heavy, as the aforementioned added demonstrations make up for that, and I maintained the overheal above and below 142.5% overheal (Uber build rate comparison) as well as healing the Heavy when the overheal goes down below 125%.
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# ([https://youtu.be/mWbjD7LjtVg?t=286 4:46]/[https://youtu.be/hj5FuFVFV2U?t=512 8:32]) For the "healing disguised Spy" part, I have two enemy bots (Heavy and Demoman) so that the Spy doesn't disguise as a Demoman named "Medic". Both bots are injured, so my disguise will be healed, too.
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{{c|The new ones (the timestamps refer to the new demonstration):}}
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# ([https://youtu.be/hj5FuFVFV2U?t=459 7:39]) Demonstrating stock [[Medi Gun]]'s Uber vs. Quick-Fix's Uber (the latter doesn't reduce incoming damage, but prevents incoming knockback unlike the former) and the fact that they have same duration (barring the stock's lingering effect). Also has Quick-Fix's Uber without incoming rockets to demonstrate that the duration is the same.
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# ([https://youtu.be/hj5FuFVFV2U?t=478 7:58]) Ubering multiple teammates at the same time drain faster than Ubering a single teammate alone. Also, only the aforementioned Ubering multiple teammates drains Uber faster; Ubering an injured teammate drains at the same rate as Ubering a healthy teammate (fully overhealed) and not healing someone when Ubered.
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{{c|Building pick up speed penalty reduced from 25% to 10%}}
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:I did the "Uber draining when dropped" part, but both mediguns show "Dropped by Exaskliri." Is it allowed? I gave the bot the Quick-Fix via bot_mirror command. https://youtu.be/0ZlwvHZrjdU [[User:Exaskliri|Exaskliri]] ([[User talk:Exaskliri|talk]]) 04:27, 30 April 2021 (UTC)
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::Nothing you can do about that, that's just how it shows. Shouldn't be too noticeable and there's no point in going through the trouble of setting up a server and getting a buddy to join only so it doesn't show. Though the confusion on where the quick-fix actually is should be redone so it doesn't look like you are looking for it.<br>[[User:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">GrampaSwood</font>]] ([[User talk:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) 10:37, 30 April 2021 (UTC)
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:# I just did the "mirroring the explosive jump" part, though I don't think it looks neat. Is it OK? https://youtu.be/NQo1iTxQSEA [[User:Exaskliri|Exaskliri]] ([[User talk:Exaskliri|talk]]) 03:31, 3 May 2021 (UTC)
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:# Just finished the whole demonstration. I just need to attach the segments. [[User:Exaskliri|Exaskliri]] ([[User talk:Exaskliri|talk]]) 15:15, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
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:# Just finished <s>uploading</s> re-uploading the new Quick-Fix demonstration video to YouTube and MediaFire.
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::# https://youtu.be/hj5FuFVFV2U
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::# https://www.mediafire.com/file/kx7kbaik5vwpwyj/Quick-Fix_Weapon_Demonstration_Video.mp4/file
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:::[[User:Exaskliri|Exaskliri]] ([[User talk:Exaskliri|talk]]) 08:08, 6 May 2021 (UTC)
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:::: I don't see any problems, except for the the explosive jumps scenes, that looks a bit laggy, and in general the quality, that seems to be more like a rendering issue, though shouldn't be a problem · [[User:Ashe|Ashe]] ([[User talk:Ashe|talk]]) 04:40, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
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: I'm fixing the video right now (quieting projector sound, incorrect fade out time, etc.). Gotta reupload soon. [[User:Exaskliri|Exaskliri]] ([[User talk:Exaskliri|talk]]) 10:39, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
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: Just uploaded the fixed version of the [[Quick-Fix]] demonstration video. [[User:Exaskliri|Exaskliri]] ([[User talk:Exaskliri|talk]]) 13:01, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
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::This is spectacular work, thanks a lot! Just two comments, none of which should require a lot of work to fix hopefully:
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* Video quality also seems to have the same artifacts as the Winger demonstration. Please increase the bitrate. Unlike the Winger demonstration, I understand that a demonstration this long could take forever and use a lot of bandwidth to upload twice (to YouTube and to MediaFire), so if the video quality is approved for the Winger demonstration is good enough and you've used the same settings for re-rendering this demonstration, feel free to just upload the higher-quality Quick Fix demonstration to MediaFire only, in order to avoid having to upload the huge file twice.
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* There is an audio/video glitch at 9:56 - 9:57.
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— [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 05:46, 10 May 2021 (UTC)
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:::You finally responded! Thank you so much. The video/audio glitch is from the .dem recording, so I had to conduct another play, especially since it involves another player. [[User:Exaskliri|Exaskliri]] ([[User talk:Exaskliri|talk]]) 15:12, 10 May 2021 (UTC)
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::::Alright. Can you upload the new version? — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 04:40, 1 June 2021 (UTC)
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{{c|Building repair costs increased from 20 metal to 33 metal to repair 100hp per wrench hit (from 5HP per metal to 3HP per metal)}}
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== {{Demo Header|Blutsauger}} ==
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: Update on this. Video seems to require multiple people. Wasn't able to find anyone else to help me. If you want to help me record this please ping me. [[User:Naleksuh|Naleksuh]] ([[User talk:Naleksuh|talk]]) 19:53, 21 December 2021 (UTC)
  
{{Reservation|[[User:Akuago220|Akuago220, The Jungle Expeditioner]] ([[User talk:Akuago220|talk]]) 06:47, 3 July 2015 (PDT)}}
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== {{Demo Header|Eyelander}}, {{Demo Header|Nessie's Nine Iron}}, {{Demo Header|Horseless Headless Horsemann's Headtaker}}, and {{Demo Header|Half-Zatoichi}} ==
  
=={{icon item|Loose Cannon|16px}} [[Loose Cannon]]==
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{{c|Show slower deploy and holster comparision.}}
  
{{c|Updated description to better detail the weapon's features.}}
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The other swords shows the comparision except for the above ones. [[User:ThunderRunner|ThunderRunner]] ([[User talk:ThunderRunner|talk]]) 08:54, 18 December 2021 (UTC)
  
=={{icon item|Mad Milk|16px}} [[Mad Milk]]==
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{{Reservation|----[[File:User Slimyboi500 Logo.png|100px|link=User:Slimyboi500]] [[File:User Slimyboi500 Profile.jpg|25px|link=User:Slimyboi500]] [[User talk:Slimyboi500|Talk]] [[File:Speech voice.png|25px|link=User talk:Slimyboi500]] [[Special:Contributions/Slimyboi500|Contribs]] [[File:Wrench_IMG.png|25px|link=Special:Contributions/Slimyboi500]] [https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561199515551163/ Steam]  [[File:Steam tray.png|25px|link=https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561199515551163/]] 04:32, 19 April 2024 (UTC)}}
  
{{c|Updated description. (Also handy for putting out a fire)}}
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I think I am capable of doing demonstrations again.  As someone on the wiki that doesn't get credited for shit, I think these might upper my reputation.<br>----[[File:User Slimyboi500 Logo.png|100px|link=User:Slimyboi500]] [[File:User Slimyboi500 Profile.jpg|25px|link=User:Slimyboi500]] [[User talk:Slimyboi500|Talk]] [[File:Speech voice.png|25px|link=User talk:Slimyboi500]] [[Special:Contributions/Slimyboi500|Contribs]] [[File:Wrench_IMG.png|25px|link=Special:Contributions/Slimyboi500]] [https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561199515551163/ Steam]  [[File:Steam tray.png|25px|link=https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561199515551163/]] 04:32, 19 April 2024 (UTC)
  
=={{icon item|Manmelter|16px}} [[Manmelter]]==
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:What edits/contributions have you made that you did not get credited for?<br>[[File:BLU Wiki Cap.png|20px|link=List of Wiki Cap owners]] {{!}} [[Help:Group rights|<span style="color:green;font-family:TF2 Build;">s</span>]] {{!}} [[User:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">GrampaSwood</font>]] [[File:PraisetheSun.png|20px|alt=Praise the Sun!]] ([[User talk:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) ([[Special:Contributions/GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">contribs</font>]]) 05:13, 19 April 2024 (UTC)
  
{{c|Updated description to better detail the weapon's features.}}
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::Oh, I dunno, [https://wiki.teamfortress.com/w/index.php?title=Soldier_Robot&diff=3568960&oldid=3552448 this], [https://wiki.teamfortress.com/w/index.php?title=Template:Item_set_infobox&diff=3618268&oldid=3565663 this], and [https://wiki.teamfortress.com/w/index.php?title=Ghost&diff=3649086&oldid=3401209 especially] [https://wiki.teamfortress.com/w/index.php?title=Saw_blade&diff=3649104&oldid=3314666 these].
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::----[[File:User Slimyboi500 Logo.png|100px|link=User:Slimyboi500]] [[File:User Slimyboi500 Profile.jpg|25px|link=User:Slimyboi500]] [[User talk:Slimyboi500|Talk]] [[File:Speech voice.png|25px|link=User talk:Slimyboi500]] [[Special:Contributions/Slimyboi500|Contribs]] [[File:Wrench_IMG.png|25px|link=Special:Contributions/Slimyboi500]] [https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561199515551163/ Steam]  [[File:Steam tray.png|25px|link=https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561199515551163/]] 15:57, 19 April 2024 (UTC)
  
=={{icon item|Maul|16px}} [[Maul]]==
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:::On all of these edits you are credited just fine. How did you expect to be credited?<br>[[File:BLU Wiki Cap.png|20px|link=List of Wiki Cap owners]] {{!}} [[Help:Group rights|<span style="color:green;font-family:TF2 Build;">s</span>]] {{!}} [[User:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">GrampaSwood</font>]] [[File:PraisetheSun.png|20px|alt=Praise the Sun!]] ([[User talk:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) ([[Special:Contributions/GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">contribs</font>]]) 16:00, 19 April 2024 (UTC)
  
{{c|Updated description to better detail the weapon's features.}}
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::::Wikicheivments?  I never got another one since [[User talk:Slimyboi500/Arch1#Wikichievement unlocked|November]].  [[User:Mediarch|Mediarch]] is [[User talk:Mediarch#Wikichievement unlocked.21|getting]] [[User talk:Mediarch#Wikichievement Unlocked.21 2|all]] [[User talk:Mediarch#Wikichievement Unlocked.21 3|the]] [[User talk:Mediarch#Wikichievement unlocked.21 4|fame]] [[User talk:Mediarch#C .3E 7|and glory]].  I just don't wanna think I'm the odd one out.
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::::----[[File:User Slimyboi500 Logo.png|100px|link=User:Slimyboi500]] [[File:User Slimyboi500 Profile.jpg|25px|link=User:Slimyboi500]] [[User talk:Slimyboi500|Talk]] [[File:Speech voice.png|25px|link=User talk:Slimyboi500]] [[Special:Contributions/Slimyboi500|Contribs]] [[File:Wrench_IMG.png|25px|link=Special:Contributions/Slimyboi500]] [https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561199515551163/ Steam]  [[File:Steam tray.png|25px|link=https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561199515551163/]] 16:15, 19 April 2024 (UTC)
  
{{reservation/sandbox}} <span style="font-family:aharoni; font-size:110%; font-style:;font-weight:bold;">[[File:User_Obilisk_Demo1.png]] [[User:Obilisk|<span style="text-decoration:">Obilisk</span>]]</span> 22:25, 17 October 2015 (PDT)
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== {{Demo Header|Kritzkrieg}} ==
  
Same as the Homewrecker, I don't think the description has changed. <span style="font-family:aharoni; font-size:110%; font-style:;font-weight:bold;">[[File:User_Obilisk_Demo1.png]] [[User:Obilisk|<span style="text-decoration:">Obilisk</span>]]</span> 00:37, 10 September 2015 (PDT)
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{{c|Does not show that Kritz Über does not prevent capping or carrying the Intelligence.}}
: I stand corrected, the description now contains a "+" I think I need glasses haha. <span style="font-family:aharoni; font-size:110%; font-style:;font-weight:bold;">[[File:User_Obilisk_Demo1.png]] [[User:Obilisk|<span style="text-decoration:">Obilisk</span>]]</span> 19:06, 10 September 2015 (PDT)
 
  
=={{icon item|Minigun|16px}} [[Minigun]]==
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{{c|Does not show health of patients, overheal is not shown properly.}}
{{c|Viewmodel has been updated.}}
 
:{{Reservation|[[User:Luigifan656|Luigifan656]] ([[User talk:Luigifan656|talk]]) 15:43, 29 July 2015 (PDT)}}
 
Is this here good? https://youtu.be/GUFxZuTWU1o [[User:Luigifan656|Luigifan656]] ([[User talk:Luigifan656|talk]]) 06:31, 30 July 2015 (PDT)
 
:I personally noticed a few things:
 
* Quality I think could use some improvement, try increasing your bitrate or quantizer settings when rendering the final video.
 
* A minor thing, but usually the mouse pointer is already pointing at the backpack icon when the video starts.
 
* The splitscreen scene looks weird, doesn't look like you centered and cropped the clips well enough. I'm assuming you meant to make a three-way splitscreen, try fiddling around until you can make three equally wide clips next to each other.
 
* The music ends too soon, the "clack" ending sound should be at the very end.
 
This is not an official review, but it should give you something to work with before Wind returns. Good luck - [[User:Uufje|Uufje]] 07:52, 30 July 2015 (PDT)
 
  
I am nearly done now, but I can't seem to find a training video mp3 that is as long as my demonstration. [[User:Luigifan656|Luigifan656]] ([[User talk:Luigifan656|talk]]) 10:10, 30 July 2015 (PDT)
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I think I'll take this one! [[User:Greenfox|Greenfox]] ([[User talk:Greenfox|talk]]) 20:51, 22 October 2022 (UTC)
:You can find extended music here: http://www.mediafire.com/download/y0gjm9yekjj6zzx/Demonstration+Music+v2.rar - [[User:Uufje|Uufje]] 13:35, 30 July 2015 (PDT)
 
  
Is this here better? https://youtu.be/94Jt9uwb1uU [[User:Luigifan656|Luigifan656]] ([[User talk:Luigifan656|talk]]) 14:27, 30 July 2015 (PDT)
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:Please sign your comments using <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>.<br>[[User:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">GrampaSwood</font>]] ([[User talk:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) 20:56, 22 October 2022 (UTC)
  
: Hi Luigifan656, first clip looks good to me, though the second clip needs some work.
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sorry! [[User:Greenfox|Greenfox]] ([[User talk:Greenfox|talk]]) 06:27, 23 October 2022 (UTC)
* Generally speaking, the hud needs to be present in all 3 splitscreens, two of yours appear to be cropped. However, with this specific splitscreen you don't even need the hud present at all, as the splitscreens are comparing the speed rather than the health or ammo.
 
* Please give more time for the transition.
 
* Start the splitscreen from a stationary potision, rather than having the heavies already running. (Basically try get the clip to be as identical as the [https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=47&v=_YF2L0vty3U original demonstration] )
 
* During the splitscreen there is no sound. I'd suggest having the shooting clip's sound play as well as the far left sound's play.
 
* You should swap the splitscreen order, having the shooting clip on the far right and the spinning clip in the middle.
 
* Don't end the splitscreen clip so suddenly, give some time then unspin the miniguns. (Again, try mimic the original demonstration.)
 
* Also, are you running a german version of the game? When you shoot the enemies they appear to spark. Not sure if this is an issue or not, but worth noting.
 
  
Overall, good attempt at your demonstration dude, the first clip looks spot on to me, though the splitscreens do need some work. I know it seems like a mouthful, splitscreens can be a pain, but most of them are a easy fix. - This is only my opinion, so it'd be worth waiting for Wind's response. <span style="font-family:aharoni; font-size:110%; font-style:;font-weight:bold;">[[File:User_Obilisk_Demo1.png]] [[User:Obilisk|<span style="text-decoration:">Obilisk</span>]]</span> 19:54, 30 July 2015 (PDT)
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== Trading demonstration ==
:Yeah, the splitscreens don't seem to be centered. The middle clip is good, since the minigun is exactly in the middle, but the other two are still off. Try to fiddle around and make the right and left clips look like the middle one. - [[User:Uufje|Uufje]] 00:37, 31 July 2015 (PDT)
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{{c|Doesn't show the "Requires Steam Guard verification" window}}
  
This is better I think: https://youtu.be/qDKNgbImsZ4 oh, and I am playing on the german version of the game. I hope that isn't bad. [[User:Luigifan656|Luigifan656]] ([[User talk:Luigifan656|talk]]) 07:37, 31 July 2015 (PDT)
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We can make the same Medic and Heavy conversation joke.
: Hmmm what is it? http://prntscr.com/7z90rp <span style="background:#ffffff;border:1px solid #000000;padding:0em 0.5em;font-family:Arial Black; color:#000000">[[User:Radist|RADIST]]&nbsp;|&nbsp;[[User talk:Radist|T]]&nbsp;|&nbsp;[[Special:Contributions/Radist|C]]</span> 07:43, 31 July 2015 (PDT)
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:Alright, it seems that Steam won't allow me to change the Trading window language for some reason, so i'm leaving this to a English-speaker user · [[User:Ashe|Ashe]] ([[User talk:Ashe|talk]]) 04:55, 27 February 2022 (UTC)
Oh, I think Sony Vegas corrupted the file. Weird that I didn't see it when I edited it.
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:I don't think we should redo this just for this reason; there may be more UI changes to that process in the future, and it seems unnecessary. — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 00:33, 24 April 2022 (UTC)
  
This? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1zF0H-HOHHQ&feature=youtu.be [[User:Luigifan656|Luigifan656]] ([[User talk:Luigifan656|talk]]) 13:33, 31 July 2015 (PDT)
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== {{Demo Header|Ullapool Caber}} ==
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{{Reservation|[[User:Cheddar|<font color="#193940">'''Cheddar'''</font>]] [[User talk:Cheddar|<font color="#193940">'''Talk'''</font>]] 11:04, 20 April 2024 (UTC)}}
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*{{c|Does not demonstrate activation on cloaked enemy Spies}}
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*{{c|Does not demonstrate activation on disguised enemy Spies}}
  
Still a few things you need to fix up Luigifan656,
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This video does not need a desperate rework, but it is worth adding some extra stuff here and there. Specifically the cloak and disguise interactions.
  
* The splitscreen position and sizes are still a bit off. To get 3 splitscreens even, have the far left track motion as "-640", the middle clip as "0" and the far right as "640" You then want to crop each clip to the size of "640" Doing so will have all three perfectly even.
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'''Part 1: The Main Gang (Pyro, Soldier, Medic)'''
* The right clip is out of sync. It should sync perfectly with the middle clip. (Starting of the walk and ending of the walk should be perfeclty synced for the two.)
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#Attack the Pyro with a full caber. Watch the explosion and Demoman saying "Kablooey!" or similar.
* The far left clip appears to lag/jolt at 0:48.
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#After landing, kill the Pyro with the now empty caber.
* There are bullet holes present in your clips all over the walls. To clear them simply type "r_cleardecals" in the console.
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#Kill the Soldier with consecutive hits of the empty caber.
* You should allow the miniguns to fully spin down before ending the demonstration. Also, the fade to black for each clip should be synced.
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#Kill the Medic with consecutive hits of the empty caber.
* Also, I don't think the transitions between the clips should fade completely to black, to make them easily merge simply just place one clip over the other with a 0:15 transition. It should look [http://s4.postimg.org/qp9invil9/example.png like this.] <span style="font-family:aharoni; font-size:110%; font-style:;font-weight:bold;">[[File:User_Obilisk_Demo1.png]] [[User:Obilisk|<span style="text-decoration:">Obilisk</span>]]</span> 00:54, 1 August 2015 (PDT)
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#Taunt
  
Feel free to wait for Wind's responce, I'm not sure what his opinion is about the minigun spin ups, as he may want them to be walking then spin and walk (Like the original minigun demonstrations are currently) Again though, it's very close to looking nice. Keep it up! <span style="font-family:aharoni; font-size:110%; font-style:;font-weight:bold;">[[File:User_Obilisk_Demo1.png]] [[User:Obilisk|<span style="text-decoration:">Obilisk</span>]]</span> 00:54, 1 August 2015 (PDT)
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'''Part 2: Blast Radius Tests + Caber Jumping'''
  
:Oh hi. Thanks for iterating pretty quickly on this demonstration. Here's my opinion:
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Do the same as current video's Part 2 except friendly Scout is removed. And some more added too.
* All of what Obilisk said applies (including spin and walk)
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# Approach between an enemy Engineer and an enemy Sniper. '''[Note: Friendly Scout is moved to the next Act]'''
* For Minigun-like weapon demonstrations, it's customary to move a little bit forward in the spawning wooden box so that you are right up against the front wooden barrier during the first clip. This way, in this position, the minigun firing effect won't clip against the top wooden barrier. Do so before starting to record (don't move while recording).
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# Look at both of them while standing still.
* There is some lag (or perhaps just a jittery mouse) around 0:20-0:23
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# Look down at the ground and then swing the caber.
— [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 16:50, 2 August 2015 (PDT)
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# Crouch, look down, and then swing the caber. Watch the explosion affect the enemy players.
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# Look at the enemy players again.
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# Run to the Resupply room, look at the sign, and enter the room.
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# Touch the Resupply cabinet.
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# Repeat Step 4.
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# Run to the Resupply room and immediately go to the Resupply cabinet and out.
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# Approach a high location (in the current video, it is a bunch of crates)
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# Jump and strike the wall of the high location to get to the top of it.
  
Sorry that it took so long, but I hope this is better now: https://youtu.be/OyQibzGLowA [[User:Luigifan656|Luigifan656]] ([[User talk:Luigifan656|talk]]) 15:43, 9 August 2015 (PDT)
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'''Part 3: Player Interactions'''
  
:Hey Luigifan656,
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First part is a single enemy Spy.
  
:Another good attempt at the demonstration, but there's still a few things:
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'''Part 3a: Cloaked Spy'''
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# Let the Spy cloak
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# Approach cloaked Spy and attack with the full caber. If the facts are right, an explosion should trigger.
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# Refresh the screen to the next scene...
  
:* In my opinion you spend just a little too long shooting the pyro. After the 4th or so 'burst' you can increase the fire rate a bit to finish him off, however this may be alright as it is.
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There are two players on the side, a friendly Scout and an enemy Spy.
:* Your splitscreen doesn't appear to be even nor centered, each of the clips should have the crosshair in the middle.
 
:* Your far left splitscreen appears to have a black crosshair, try keep all the colours consistant throughout the demonstration.
 
:* The miniguns need to spin up completely in sync.
 
:* Again, try have the heavy's start in a stationary position, then move all at once and then spin up the miniguns. (Just like the original Minigun demonstration.)
 
  
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'''Part 3b: Disguised Spy'''
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# Let the Spy disguise as a friendly Scout.
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# Approach friendly Scout and attack with the full caber. Nothing should happen.
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# Now go to the disguised Spy and repeat Step 3. The difference is that the explosion should trigger.
  
:Overall, again VERY close Luigi, just a few things. Since you said you're using Sony Vegas I made you a quick video on how to get the clips perfectly placed for a 3 way splitscreen. Note this is on Sony Vegas 12.0 [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qGVBtgS3KCA&feature=youtu.be Watch here.] Ignore the glitches at the end, it's just Sony Vegas not liking to preview it properly. Wind hopefully will be checking the talk page within the next few days, so you should be able to get his opinion soon as well. Hang tight. <span style="font-family:aharoni; font-size:110%; font-style:;font-weight:bold;">[[File:User_Obilisk_Demo1.png]] [[User:Obilisk|<span style="text-decoration:">Obilisk</span>]]</span> 05:35, 10 August 2015 (PDT)
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'''Part 4: Deployment and Holstering'''
::I don't have anything to add to what Obilisk said except that no need to worry about #1 (shooting the pyro too long). Nice Vegas tutorial :3 — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 15:56, 16 August 2015 (PDT)
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*Do the same set of actions as the current video, or in any appropriate method.
  
=={{Icon item|Natascha|16px}} [[Natascha]]==
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<s>[[User:Qwertyxp2000|Qwertyxp2000]] ([[User talk:Qwertyxp2000|talk]]) 02:23, 22 June 2022 (UTC)</s> [[User:Qwertyxp2000|Qwertyxp2000]] ([[User talk:Qwertyxp2000|talk]]) 02:31, 22 June 2022 (UTC)
{{c|Added 20% damage resistance while spun up}}
 
  
{{c|Stun amount now has distance falloff. Decreases starting at 512hu down to zero stun at 1536Hu}}
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:Good list, but agree that this isn't worth redoing if it's only for those extra interactions. — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 21:39, 31 July 2022 (UTC)
  
=={{icon item|Necro Smasher|16px}} [[Necro Smasher]]==
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:: [https://drive.google.com/file/d/1UYRHocDtVBJbtYHnGVX6UjG_olg-VjqU/view?usp=sharing Here] is the video, feedback needed!<br>[[User:Cheddar|<font color="#193940">'''Cheddar'''</font>]] • [[User talk:Cheddar|<font color="#193940">'''Talk'''</font>]] 11:03, 4 May 2024 (UTC)
{{c|Increased base wrench construction speed on hit boost by 50%. Buildings now build 2.5x faster instead of just 2x (additive of 1.5x + base speed)}}
 
  
{{c|Teleporters and Dispensers redeploy +50% faster (2.5x without wrench boost, 5.5x with wrench boost)}}
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== [[File:RED Teleporter.png|16px|link=Teleporters]] [[Teleporters]] ==
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{{c|Needs to show the updated metal cost.}}
  
{{c|Building pick up speed penalty reduced from 25% to 10%}}
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== {{Demo Header|Cleaner's Carbine}} ==
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{{Reservation|[[User:Cheddar|<font color="#193940">'''Cheddar'''</font>]] • [[User talk:Cheddar|<font color="#193940">'''Talk'''</font>]] 13:59, 3 May 2024 (UTC)}}<br>
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:{{c|Needs a firing speed comparison to stock, does not show CRIKEY! gain from damaging buildings and disguised Spies.}}
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:: I may need a bit of time to obtain a Cleaner's Carbine for this video. This will be solved once Scrap.TF is working again. [[User:Scorchshotgaming|Scorchshotgaming]] ([[User talk:Scorchshotgaming|talk]]) 06:45, 19 April 2024 (UTC)
  
{{c|Building repair costs increased from 20 metal to 33 metal to repair 100hp per wrench hit (from 5HP per metal to 3HP per metal)}}
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:::[https://drive.google.com/file/d/1snBQbOnOMnNxuKgUzsNOQhNieC8H1t0H/view?usp=sharing Here's] the video, feedback needed! <br>[[User:Cheddar|<font color="#193940">'''Cheddar'''</font>]] • [[User talk:Cheddar|<font color="#193940">'''Talk'''</font>]] 17:51, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
  
Yes, for the Engineer it functions as a Wrench, and all the Wrench things are demonstrated in this video. - [[User:Uufje|Uufje]] 01:40, 3 July 2015 (PDT)
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:::: What about the disguised spies? or did I miss it somewhere in the video? [[User:Mediarch|<font color="ec5c69">'''Mediarch'''</font>]] [[File:User Mediarch PFP.png|25px]][[User:Mediarch|<font color="#ff66cc"> ♥ </font>]][[User talk:Mediarch|<font color="ec5c69">'''Talk'''</font>]][[User:Mediarch|<font color="#ff66cc"> ♥ </font>]][[Special:Contributions/Mediarch|<font color="ec5c69">'''My Edits'''</font>]] 18:11, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
  
=={{icon item|Panic Attack|16px}} [[Panic Attack]]==
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::::: I forgot <br> [[User:Cheddar|<font color="#193940">'''Cheddar'''</font>]] • [[User talk:Cheddar|<font color="#193940">'''Talk'''</font>]] 18:12, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
{{c|Base Fire rate increased (from 15% to 30%)}}
 
  
{{c|Base reload speed increased (from 33% to 50%)}}
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:::::: [https://drive.google.com/file/d/1e88Z5orKHDRcgNKPimVsP5nL5CXdxTlO/view?usp=sharing Here] is a newer version! <br>[[User:Cheddar|<font color="#193940">'''Cheddar'''</font>]] • [[User talk:Cheddar|<font color="#193940">'''Talk'''</font>]] 19:11, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
  
{{c|Added increased switch to speed by +50%}}
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== {{Demo Header|Maul}}, {{Demo Header|Homewrecker}} ==
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{{c|Does not show damage against players vs stock}}
  
{{Reservation/sandbox}} <span style="font-family:aharoni; font-size:110%; font-style:;font-weight:bold;">[[File:User_Obilisk_Demo1.png]] [[User:Obilisk|<span style="text-decoration:">Obilisk</span>]]</span> 01:55, 1 August 2015 (PDT)
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{{reservation|[[User:Mediarch|'''Mediarch''']] [[File:User Mediarch PFP.png|25px]][[User:Mediarch|<font color="#ff66cc"> </font>]][[User talk:Mediarch|'''Talk''']][[User:Mediarch|<font color="#ff66cc"> </font>]][[Special:Contributions/Mediarch|'''My Edits''']] 17:41, 26 March 2024 (UTC)}}
:Hey, Obilisk can't access the wiki, so I'm posting this here for him. Quote from Obilisk: " [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nsWkS4btlOw&feature=youtu.be How's this?] Overall I think everything's covered except for the faster weapon switch to the Panic Attack. How would you suggest showing it? I would have done the usual 'shoot primary, shoot secondary, swing melee' like the degreaser, but it's a bit more tricky than that, as the Panic Attack has to be reloaded first in order to shoot. Would I perhaps have the shotgun in the splitscreen also unloaded then compare? Or something completley different? As usual, your call." [[File:Charger 2.png|20px|]] [[User:Karmacharger|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Karmacharger</span>]] 9:08 PM 8/6/2015 (PDT)
 
::The usual "shoot primary, shoot secondary, swing melee" with splitscreen against vanilla loadout. The weapon has to be pre-loaded and that's part of the deal you get by having this weapon, so the vanilla shotgun should be fully loaded when comparing. Might also want to show it with 200/100/1 HP to see if that tilts the balance from one side to the other — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 15:56, 16 August 2015 (PDT)
 
::: I made a test clip(s) [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LG1XamUdN9o&feature=youtu.be how's this?] Not sure if it's noticeable but switching after shooting the rocket is hard to predict, as you can almost switch instantly (cutting off the audio for the rocket) or wait for the entire sound to happen then switch, not sure if it matters too much, but I think It to sync rather well. Do you think the three way splitscreen works? I was thinking that I should at least change the weapon to idle the end clip with the rocket launcher, as the shovel's not visible on the 3 way splitscreen, or I could change to the shotgun and reload if necessary. Also, do you think what I have recorded here shows that it only has a faster switch speed '''to''' the panic attack? Or should I try a different method to show it? And last but not least, ignore the steam messages I receive while recording, this is all just a fraps preview so nothing has been edited properly. <span style="font-family:aharoni; font-size:110%; font-style:;font-weight:bold;">[[File:User_Obilisk_Demo1.png]] [[User:Obilisk|<span style="text-decoration:">Obilisk</span>]]</span> 04:40, 20 August 2015 (PDT)
 
::::I think the final weapon should be the shotgun instead of the shovel, such that it is visible on 3-way and you can reload the stock shotgun. Though you're right that it doesn't show which switch it accelerates or not. No matter what you do, it's going to be pretty hard to notice at this speed and when there's so much going on on the screen so I'd say not worth showing. — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 20:21, 9 September 2015 (PDT)
 
::::: Alrighty, [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bKeptX63kPc&feature=youtu.be how's this?] I redid just the two way splitscreen. <span style="font-family:aharoni; font-size:110%; font-style:;font-weight:bold;">[[File:User_Obilisk_Demo1.png]] [[User:Obilisk|<span style="text-decoration:">Obilisk</span>]]</span> 06:41, 12 September 2015 (PDT)
 
::::::Is good, please upload~ — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 18:45, 26 September 2015 (PDT)
 
::::::: [http://www.mediafire.com/download/g9czj7yzkzsj0u7/Panic+Attack+Demonstration.wmv Download] <span style="font-family:aharoni; font-size:110%; font-style:;font-weight:bold;">[[File:User_Obilisk_Demo1.png]] [[User:Obilisk|<span style="text-decoration:">Obilisk</span>]]</span> 23:27, 26 September 2015 (PDT)
 
  
=={{icon item|Overdose|16px}} [[Overdose]]==
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[https://drive.google.com/file/d/1RuotuJq4wrNwBO07H-bjgSrtHo1tyhkJ/view?usp=sharing Here's the Maul] [[User:Mediarch|'''Mediarch''']] [[File:User Mediarch PFP.png|25px]][[User:Mediarch|<font color="#ff66cc"> ♥ </font>]][[User talk:Mediarch|'''Talk''']][[User:Mediarch|<font color="#ff66cc"> ♥ </font>]][[Special:Contributions/Mediarch|'''My Edits''']] 00:19, 27 March 2024 (UTC)
  
{{c|Updated description to better detail the weapon's features.}}
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: [https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ihbl2VE57Y-w-wt6Cu28KSL7cOYtDbGJ/view?usp=sharing Here's Maul v2] [[User:Mediarch|'''Mediarch''']] [[File:User Mediarch PFP.png|25px]][[User:Mediarch|<font color="#ff66cc"> ♥ </font>]][[User talk:Mediarch|'''Talk''']][[User:Mediarch|<font color="#ff66cc"> ♥ </font>]][[Special:Contributions/Mediarch|'''My Edits''']] 20:20, 8 April 2024 (UTC)
  
=={{icon item|Persian Persuader|16px}} [[Persian Persuader]]==
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[https://drive.google.com/file/d/1YkPdQZhRUCRbBqNM13vzVrjDWE2oLJKL/view?usp=sharing Here's the Homewrecker] [[User:Mediarch|'''Mediarch''']] [[File:User Mediarch PFP.png|25px]][[User:Mediarch|<font color="#ff66cc"> ♥ </font>]][[User talk:Mediarch|'''Talk''']][[User:Mediarch|<font color="#ff66cc"> ♥ </font>]][[Special:Contributions/Mediarch|'''My Edits''']] 00:19, 27 March 2024 (UTC)
  
{{c|Updated description to better detail the weapon's features.}}
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:It seems like the combattext batching was still on, as the damage numbers get added up. You don't have to be named "Friendly Engineer" for the Dispenser clip, it can just be your own name.
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:In the Homewrecker one specifically: Try not to rotate around a target too much when hitting them (this is mostly when hitting the Pyro at the start, where all 3 subsequent hits are from a different angle). Both look good otherwise.<br>[[File:BLU Wiki Cap.png|20px|link=List of Wiki Cap owners]] {{!}} [[Help:Group rights|<span style="color:green;font-family:TF2 Build;">s</span>]] {{!}} [[User:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">GrampaSwood</font>]] [[File:PraisetheSun.png|20px|alt=Praise the Sun!]] ([[User talk:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) ([[Special:Contributions/GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">contribs</font>]]) 20:40, 7 April 2024 (UTC)
  
=={{icon item|Pomson 6000|16px}} [[Pomson 6000]]==
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:: [https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Ae8jB8jsbp3Q2oy-BCWPdFtm5R6niPvh/view?usp=sharing Here's Homewrecka v2] [[User:Mediarch|'''Mediarch''']] [[File:User Mediarch PFP.png|25px]][[User:Mediarch|<font color="#ff66cc"> ♥ </font>]][[User talk:Mediarch|'''Talk''']][[User:Mediarch|<font color="#ff66cc"> ♥ </font>]][[Special:Contributions/Mediarch|'''My Edits''']] 20:20, 8 April 2024 (UTC)
  
{{c|Über and Cloak drain decreases over distance from target.}}
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== {{Demo Header|Amputator}} ==
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{{c|Does not show damage against players vs stock}}
  
=={{icon item|Power Up Canteen|16px}} [[Power Up Canteen]]==
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I recorded most of this but medic's health regen is completely random as far I can tell. I can't get the clips to line up so I can properly demonstrate the increased health regen so I'm removing my reservation for the time being. I might try again some other time to brute force it but it doesn't seem promising [[User:Mediarch|'''Mediarch''']] [[File:User Mediarch PFP.png|25px]][[User:Mediarch|<font color="#ff66cc"> ♥ </font>]][[User talk:Mediarch|'''Talk''']][[User:Mediarch|<font color="#ff66cc"> ♥ </font>]][[Special:Contributions/Mediarch|'''My Edits''']] 18:34, 28 March 2024 (UTC)
{{c|doesn't show Canteen Specialist upgrades like Battery Canteens demo does}} [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] 10:04, 26 June 2014 (PDT)
 
  
=={{icon item|Quick-Fix|16px}} [[Quick-Fix]]==
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:Not having them be synced up is fine as long as it's clear that the Amputator goes faster.<br>[[File:BLU Wiki Cap.png|20px|link=List of Wiki Cap owners]] {{!}} [[Help:Group rights|<span style="color:green;font-family:TF2 Build;">s</span>]] {{!}} [[User:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">GrampaSwood</font>]] [[File:PraisetheSun.png|20px|alt=Praise the Sun!]] ([[User talk:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) ([[Special:Contributions/GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">contribs</font>]]) 18:55, 28 March 2024 (UTC)
  
{{c|Updated description to better detail the weapon's features.}}
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:: That's not the issue I'm having. It's the part where you're showing that it only regenerates faster while you are actively holding the amputator itself. The original video has a 3-way splitscreen with the left side being Amputator, the middle having the Amputator equipped but switched to hold the medi gun, and the right holding the stock bonesaw. I can't the medi gun side and bonesaw side to sync up so it looks like one of them is slightly faster than the other. One of the two is always slightly faster or slower which makes it really difficult to properly demonstrate that part. Even the actual health you gain each tick is slightly variable from what I can tell. I had 6 different clips and synched them all up and they all finished at different times and would have different health values despite all other variables being equal. All 6 clips started at the same time but all 6 of them have different HP https://imgur.com/3NVTjSG. My only thought for a fix is I could try to cheat and essentially just crop the health bar from one of the clips and paste it onto the other so that way they are perfectly synced up. It'd have to be a seamless edit though which is pretty hard to do. [[User:Mediarch|'''Mediarch''']] [[File:User Mediarch PFP.png|25px]][[User:Mediarch|<font color="#ff66cc"> ♥ </font>]][[User talk:Mediarch|'''Talk''']][[User:Mediarch|<font color="#ff66cc"> ♥ </font>]][[Special:Contributions/Mediarch|'''My Edits''']] 19:15, 28 March 2024 (UTC)
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== {{Demo Header|Direct Hit}} ==
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{{c|Does not show splash damage size compared to stock. No damage comparison to stock. You can airshot a soldier that rocket jumps.}}
  
=={{icon item|Quickiebomb Launcher|16px}} [[Quickiebomb Launcher]]==
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== {{Demo Header|Pomson 6000}} ==
{{c|Damage is now increased based on charge amount when the bomb is fired}}
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{{c|October 21, 2016 Patch - Fixed the Pomson 6000 playing the Shotgun reload sound.}}
  
=={{icon item|Robo-Sandvich|16px}} [[Robo-Sandvich]]==
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== {{Demo Header|Thermal Thruster}} ==
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{{c|Video doesn't show the increased knockback while using the item}}
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This video was created when the rule was just "at least 30 fps". Now, the knockback clips are a bit random and doesn't properly show the actual effect. Maybe the demonstrator can show it by placing a pyro aiming upwards and make it airblast them. The clips would be in badwater roof, the left clip without the thermal just falling off from it and the right clip, jumping with the thermal onto the pyro. · [[User:Ashe|<font color="DB9C1F">Ashe</font>]] ([[User talk:Ashe|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) 17:18, 28 March 2024 (UTC)
  
{{c|Updated description to note that this item can be thrown (alt-fire) to supply players with a medkit}}
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= [[Main Page (Classic)|Team Fortress Classic]] =
:As far as I know since I still have the Robo-Sandvich, Valve didn't update the description to include the note about its attributes like Sandvich. No need to be redone (for now). [[File:User Hinaomi Hinaomi-sig.png|link=User:Hinaomi]] [[User:Hinaomi|Rikka Takanashi]] <small>([[User talk:Hinaomi|talk]]) • ([[Special:Contributions/Hinaomi|contributions]])</small> 16:33, 10 July 2015 (PDT)
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== [[File:TFC Crowbar.PNG|16px]] [[Crowbar (Classic)]] ==
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{{c|Haven't been able to find a proper bot program. Will need another players in order to successfully demonstrate}}
  
=={{icon item|Rocket Jumper|16px}} [[Rocket Jumper]]==
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=Questions and Proposals=
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'''Note: This section is for questions and proposals that aren't specific to a single weapon. If you think a demo ought to be remade, then make an entry for it in the [[Team_Fortress_Wiki_talk:Weapon_Demonstration#Need_to_be_redone|Need to be Redone]] section above and it will be dealt with.'''
  
{{c|Updated description to better detail the weapon's features.}}
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== [[File:Item icon Voodoo-Cursed Heavy Soul.png|20px|link=Zombie Infection]] [[Zombie Infection]] Zombies ==
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{{c|Zombies have different abillities than normal players}}.
  
=={{icon item|Sandvich|16px}} [[Sandvich]]==
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Hello, I am Slimyboi500.  I will be doing the demostrations for each zombie in Zombie Infection.
  
{{c|Updated description to note that this item can be thrown (alt-fire) to supply players with a medkit}}
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Why, you may ask?  Unlike normal gamemodes, the [[BLU]] team (or in this case, the zombies), have different [[Zombie_Infection#Zombie_abilities|abillities]] than normal:
  
=={{icon item|Sapper|16px}} [[Sapper]]==
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*[[Scout]]: Speed Demon
{{c|Decreased the damage penalty on Sentries sapped by the Spy from -66% to -33%}}
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*[[Soldier]]: Pounce
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*[[Pyro]]: Hellspawn
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*[[Demoman]]: Blast Charge
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*[[Heavy]]: The Tank
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*[[Engineer]]: EMP Grenade
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*[[Medic]]: Heal
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*[[Sniper]]: Spit
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*[[Spy]]: Reveal
  
=={{icon item|Saxxy|16px}} [[Saxxy]]==
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They also have different effects, like different amounts of [[health]] and [[speed]]. The zombies only can use melee attacks however, which makes it harder to kill.
{{c|Increased base wrench construction speed on hit boost by 50%. Buildings now build 2.5x faster instead of just 2x (additive of 1.5x + base speed)}}
 
  
{{c|Teleporters and Dispensers redeploy +50% faster (2.5x without wrench boost, 5.5x with wrench boost)}}
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Let me know if it's a good idea or not.
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----[[User:Slimyboi500|Slimyboi500]] ([[User talk:Slimyboi500|talk]]) [[File:User Slimyboi500 Profile.jpg|25px]] 17:35, 27 October 2023 (UTC)
  
{{c|Building pick up speed penalty reduced from 25% to 10%}}
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:If we're doing this, I think there should be a demonstration made for each gamemode, rather than just Zombie Infection. Although ZI has gotten an introduction video now that shows off the mode pretty well, so I don't believe it is necessary.<br>[[File:BLU Wiki Cap.png|20px|link=List of Wiki Cap owners]] | [[Help:Group rights|<span style="color:green;font-family:TF2 Build;">s</span>]] | [[User:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">GrampaSwood</font>]] [[File:PraisetheSun.png|20px|alt=Praise the Sun!]] ([[User talk:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) ([[Special:Contributions/GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">contribs</font>]]) 17:53, 27 October 2023 (UTC)
  
{{c|Building repair costs increased from 20 metal to 33 metal to repair 100hp per wrench hit (from 5HP per metal to 3HP per metal)}}
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::The introduction is missing a few key details, such as not showing the Soldier or Heavy's abilities.  I feel like it would be a good idea.  Such as like there should be a demo for VSH.
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::----[[User:Slimyboi500|Slimyboi500]] ([[User talk:Slimyboi500|talk]]) [[File:User Slimyboi500 Profile.jpg|25px]] 18:12, 27 October 2023 (UTC)
  
Yes, for the Engineer it functions as a Wrench, and all the Wrench things are demonstrated in this video. - [[User:Uufje|Uufje]] 01:40, 3 July 2015 (PDT)
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:::It doesn't show each ability, but it does overall show the gamemode very well and I think does a sufficient job. Although, again, if we are making demonstrations for this, I think one should be made for each gamemode.<br>[[File:BLU Wiki Cap.png|20px|link=List of Wiki Cap owners]] | [[Help:Group rights|<span style="color:green;font-family:TF2 Build;">s</span>]] | [[User:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">GrampaSwood</font>]] [[File:PraisetheSun.png|20px|alt=Praise the Sun!]] ([[User talk:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) ([[Special:Contributions/GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">contribs</font>]]) 18:18, 27 October 2023 (UTC)
  
=={{icon item|Scorch Shot|16px}} [[Scorch Shot]]==
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::::Yes, I think there should be one for each gamemode.
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::::----[[User:Slimyboi500|Slimyboi500]] ([[User talk:Slimyboi500|talk]]) [[File:User Slimyboi500 Profile.jpg|25px]] 19:41, 27 October 2023 (UTC)
  
{{c|Now has increased knock back on burning targets}}
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:::::Remember to also indent your signature and to keep your answers above the hidden comment.<br>[[File:BLU Wiki Cap.png|20px|link=List of Wiki Cap owners]] | [[Help:Group rights|<span style="color:green;font-family:TF2 Build;">s</span>]] | [[User:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">GrampaSwood</font>]] [[File:PraisetheSun.png|20px|alt=Praise the Sun!]] ([[User talk:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) ([[Special:Contributions/GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">contribs</font>]]) 19:51, 27 October 2023 (UTC)
  
{{c|Increased the blast radius from flares from 92Hu to 110Hu}}
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::::::Still, is that a yes on the idea?
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::::::----[[User:Slimyboi500|Slimyboi500]] ([[User talk:Slimyboi500|talk]]) [[File:User Slimyboi500 Profile.jpg|25px]] 20:28, 27 October 2023 (UTC)
  
{{c|Hits and explosions always minicrit burning targets}}
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{{Outdent|6}} I'm voting no, but other people might be in favour of it. [[User:Profiteer|Profiteer]] was, for example, so I'm waiting for more input.<br>[[File:BLU Wiki Cap.png|20px|link=List of Wiki Cap owners]] | [[Help:Group rights|<span style="color:green;font-family:TF2 Build;">s</span>]] | [[User:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">GrampaSwood</font>]] [[File:PraisetheSun.png|20px|alt=Praise the Sun!]] ([[User talk:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) ([[Special:Contributions/GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">contribs</font>]]) 20:35, 27 October 2023 (UTC)
  
=={{icon item|Scotsman's Skullcutter|16px}} [[Scotsman's Skullcutter]]==
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:I vote yes for the Zombie Infection zombies (as well Saxton Hale on VSH), but not for other gamemodes. I consider these zombies kinda like "new weapons". They all have different abilities, passives, first-person views, etc. I'm not quite sure if there needs to be a demonstration regarding the human part (only if demonstrated humans being infected by zombies upon dying), and perhaps the only thing related to humans would be that zombies drop small healthkits (because it's related to them, the zombies). A showcase of each zombie class, its ability, and some human interactions like being infected by them, and, killing them as humans, would probably be a nifty video package. [[File:User Gabrielwoj Signature Icon.png|15px|Headphones style when?|link=User:Gabrielwoj]] - [[File:User Gabrielwoj Signature 1.png|link=User:Gabrielwoj]] ▪ [[File:User Gabrielwoj Signature 2.png|link=Special:Contribs/Gabrielwoj]] - [[File:User Gabrielwoj Signature 3.png|link=User talk:Gabrielwoj]] 22:34, 27 October 2023 (UTC)
  
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:: I'm all in for ZI and VSH demos, but a significant issue would be future balance patches to the modes. Each balance patch so far has significantly changed the zombies, and if we had already made the demo, we would have to redo the video for each one of these updates, which would result in multiple uploads of the same video over and over again and a lot of work (and given how we can barely keep up with the current demos in the [[#Need_to_be_redone|backlog]]...). Maybe instead of a gamemode demonstration, we could simply do a "zombie class demonstration" ("Zombie Sniper", etc.) and a "mechanics demonstration" (weapon modifications, gamemode-specific elements). This way, if a zombie is changed, we wouldn't have to redo the entire video. — [[User:Tark|<span style="font-weight:bold;color: #5BC236">Tark</span>]] 22:51, 27 October 2023 (UTC)
  
[https://youtu.be/u3nyb-PeSX0 How's this?] <span style="font-family:aharoni; font-size:110%; font-style:;font-weight:bold;">[[File:User_Obilisk_Demo1.png]] [[User:Obilisk|<span style="text-decoration:">Obilisk</span>]]</span> 02:42, 3 October 2015 (PDT)
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::: I will do the demo as soon as I get enough votes for it
:Is good, please upload~ — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 21:08, 4 October 2015 (PDT)
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::: ----[[User:Slimyboi500|Slimyboi500]] ([[User talk:Slimyboi500|talk]]) [[File:User Slimyboi500 Profile.jpg|25px]] 18:42, 15 November 2023 (UTC)
:: [http://www.mediafire.com/download/tgz6d33dfv65f69/Scotman%27s+Skullcutter+Demonstrationnew.wmv Download] <span style="font-family:aharoni; font-size:110%; font-style:;font-weight:bold;">[[File:User_Obilisk_Demo1.png]] [[User:Obilisk|<span style="text-decoration:">Obilisk</span>]]</span> 03:31, 5 October 2015 (PDT)
 
  
==[[Sentry Gun]]==
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::::Voting yes for the demo, ZI and VSH seems stable...for now at least[[User:Profiteer|Profiteer(奸商)the tryhard]] ([[User talk:Profiteer|talk]]) 11:05, 21 November 2023 (UTC)
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{{c|Teleporters and Dispensers redeploy +50% faster (2.5x without wrench boost, 5.5x with wrench boost)}}
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== Flippin' Awesome and Skullcracker in VSH ==
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When Saxton Hale used [[Flippin' Awesome]] or [[Skullcracker]], the other mercenary participating the taunt will be [[VS_Saxton_Hale_Mode#cite_ref-10|taunt killed]], is this something worth remaking the taunt demonstration? Or we just keep the current taunt demonstration, but add this feature into the VSH demonstration? --[[User:AlexT|<span style="background:linear-gradient(#D1EEFC, #81F3FD);border:1px #99F3FD solid;color:#007FFF;border-radius:8px">'''Alex'''</span>]]┋[[User talk:AlexT|<span style="color: #FF6600;">'''T'''</span>]] 18:31, 22 July 2023 (UTC)
  
{{c|Building repair costs increased from 20 metal to 33 metal to repair 100hp per wrench hit (from 5HP per metal to 3HP per metal)}}
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:I think a VSH demonstration would be better, as it may be confusing why Saxton Hale is suddenly there when he's not normally playable.<br>[[File:BLU Wiki Cap.png|20px|link=Wiki Cap]] | [[Help:Group rights|<span style="color:green;font-family:TF2 Build;">s</span>]] | [[User:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">GrampaSwood</font>]] ([[User talk:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) 19:52, 22 July 2023 (UTC)
:{{Reservation|[[File:Charger 2.png|20px|]] [[User:Karmacharger|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Karmacharger</span>]] 3:07 PM 7/27/2015 (PDT)}}
 
::https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wOuwYJKoiIY At 3:49 for some reason my sentry can hit that spy if he taunts [[File:Charger 2.png|20px|]] [[User:Karmacharger|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Karmacharger</span>]] 5:06 PM 8/17/2015 (PDT)
 
:::Even if it's the crab taunt? Maybe you just got unlucky sentry placement. Please try again a few times, I really would like to keep spycrab as long as possible. If not then please upload~ — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 20:21, 9 September 2015 (PDT)
 
::::I tried many times, no matter how i place my buildings, my Sentry can still hit him if he taunts, and yes even the crab taunt :/ [[File:Charger 2.png|20px|]] [[User:Karmacharger|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Karmacharger</span>]] 4:11 PM 9/13/2015 (PDT)
 
:::::https://youtu.be/KoK9kv-MRCI I re-recorded all the clips which has lagging-movements, and rendered in Srcdemo2 [[File:Charger 2.png|20px|]] [[User:Karmacharger|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Karmacharger</span>]] 3:28 PM 9/19/2015 (PDT)
 
::::::Oh well, no taunt. :( Is good, please upload~ — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 18:45, 26 September 2015 (PDT)
 
  
=={{icon item|Soda Popper|16px}} [[Soda Popper]]==
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::Yes, a demonstration regarding VSH, showing all Hale's abilities, and some unique taunt interactions, would be the most ideal (including his default taunt kill). That one would probably be more lengthy, and some things would probably require to be discussed beforehand. Like Mercs being able to wall climb (which is applied to even stock weaponry), should that be shown too? [[File:User Gabrielwoj Signature Icon.png|15px|Headphones style when?|link=User:Gabrielwoj]] - [[File:User Gabrielwoj Signature 1.png|link=User:Gabrielwoj]] ▪ [[File:User Gabrielwoj Signature 2.png|link=Special:Contribs/Gabrielwoj]] - [[File:User Gabrielwoj Signature 3.png|link=User talk:Gabrielwoj]] 20:31, 22 July 2023 (UTC)
{{c|Updated description to better detail the weapon's features.}}
 
  
=={{icon item|Short Circuit|16px}} [[Short Circuit]]==
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:::I think maybe a demonstration for every game mode could be in order, as a sort of semi-tutorial created by us. A VSH one would fit that too.<br>[[File:BLU Wiki Cap.png|20px|link=Wiki Cap]] | [[Help:Group rights|<span style="color:green;font-family:TF2 Build;">s</span>]] | [[User:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">GrampaSwood</font>]] ([[User talk:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) 08:33, 23 July 2023 (UTC)
{{c|Projectile destruction has been moved to alt-fire at the cost of -15 per shot. There is a 0.5s cool down between attempts and refire}}
 
  
{{c|Cannot pick up buildings when the Short Circuit is deployed}}
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== Configs for partner taunt demonstrations ==
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I've created some configs for partner taunt demonstrations. It automatically spawns 2 bots, places you in the starting position, and has another small command ("teleport") to input after it to teleport both the bots to the right position. It binds H and J to the bots performing taunts, H = BLU bot does taunt, J = RED bot does taunt. They're all class-specific and automatically kick any other bots there. There's no way (right now) that I know of to update the weaponref.zip, so if anyone needs it I can forward you a zip of the files. Just let me know on my talk page (or if you know of a way to update weaponref).<br>[[File:BLU Wiki Cap.png|20px|link=List of Wiki Cap owners]] | [[Help:Group rights|<span style="color:green;font-family:TF2 Build;">s</span>]] | [[User:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">GrampaSwood</font>]] [[File:PraisetheSun.png|20px|alt=Praise the Sun!]] ([[User talk:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) ([[Special:Contributions/GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">contribs</font>]]) 23:56, 13 November 2023 (UTC)
  
=={{icon item|Southern Hospitality|16px}} [[Southern Hospitality]]==
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== New tr_karma and requirements ==
{{c|Increased base wrench construction speed on hit boost by 50%. Buildings now build 2.5x faster instead of just 2x (additive of 1.5x + base speed)}}
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I've been working in the past week in fixing some issues tr_karma has and some new guidelines. The changes to tr_karma are:
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* Increased lightmap quality in the interiors
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* Fixed a "checkerboard" texture in the gas cylinder, the ceiling fan and the cardboard boxes
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* Added chat scripts to enable noclip (!n in the chat), regenerate (!r), spawn an ammo pack (!am) and enable demonstration server settings (!demo) (these commands are available also in the new tr_karma_basic.cfg)
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* Fixed the func_buttons in the wood targets only working once, thus displaying the hit particle once
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* Removed Tough Break cases and the Gargoyle prop as they didn't fit the ambience
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* Removed the mining cart prop in the rails due of a lighting issue
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* Repacked the map, reducing the map size from ~91 MB to ~18 MB
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The link to the download and new proposed guidelines are [[User:Ashe/Sandbox2|here]]. Check them out and give feedback · [[User:Ashe|<font color="DB9C1F">Ashe</font>]] ([[User talk:Ashe|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) 16:38, 13 December 2023 (UTC)
  
{{c|Teleporters and Dispensers redeploy +50% faster (2.5x without wrench boost, 5.5x with wrench boost)}}
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== Issues with tr_krama and tr_krama_event ==
 
 
{{c|Building pick up speed penalty reduced from 25% to 10%}}
 
 
 
{{c|Building repair costs increased from 20 metal to 33 metal to repair 100hp per wrench hit (from 5HP per metal to 3HP per metal)}}
 
 
 
=={{icon item|Splendid Screen|16px}} [[Splendid Screen]]==
 
 
 
{{c|Updated description to better detail the weapon's features.}}
 
 
 
==[[Teleporter]]==
 
{{c|Increased base wrench construction speed on hit boost by 50%. Buildings now build 2.5x faster instead of just 2x (additive of 1.5x + base speed)}}
 
:{{Reservation|[[File:Charger 2.png|20px|]] [[User:Karmacharger|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Karmacharger</span>]] 3:02 PM 7/27/2015 (PDT)}}
 
::https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iLf9W61Hots I couldn't find the "building only" 3 split-screen hud. I'm pretty sure Armisael modified the hud himself just for the video, it's a shame he didn't release it on public or whatsoever. Anyway, tell me what you think about the video. Also Wind, sorry about that i reserved more than 4 demonstrations at a time, just hoping can get stuff done as soon as possible before any big update release or something, hope you don't mind :> [[File:Charger 2.png|20px|]] [[User:Karmacharger|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Karmacharger</span>]] 9:02 PM 9/25/2015 (PDT)
 
:::More work done is good, especially when I'm late on reviews... All is good, please srcdemo2. — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 18:45, 26 September 2015 (PDT)
 
 
 
=={{icon item|Tide Turner|16px}} [[Tide Turner]]==
 
{{c|Self damage will no longer decrease charge when charging}}
 
 
 
{{c|Fall damage will no longer decrease charge when charging}}
 
 
 
{{c|Amount of charge taken away on damage when charging reduced from 3 to 1 per point of damage}}
 
 
 
=={{icon item|Tomislav|16px}} [[Tomislav]]==
 
{{c|Now 20% more accurate (less spread)}}
 
 
 
{{c|Increased spin up bonus from 10% to 20%}}
 
 
 
{{Reservation|[[User:Jimbo Jones|Jimbo Jones]] ([[User talk:Jimbo Jones|talk]]) 18:26, 31 August 2015 (PDT)}}
 
 
 
=={{icon item|Ullapool Caber|16px}} [[Ullapool Caber]]==
 
{{c|Reduced explosion base damage from 100 to 75}}
 
 
 
{{c|Reduced damage ramp up bonus for close range attacks. Now is the same as other explosive weapons.}}
 
 
 
=={{icon item|Vaccinator|16px}} [[Vaccinator]]==
 
{{c|Resistance and Über mechanism changed, see patch notes.}}
 
 
 
=={{icon item|Wrangler|16px}} [[Wrangler]]==
 
{{c|Ammo and Repair given to a shielded Sentry is reduced by the strength of the shield (66% reduced) when shield is active}}
 
 
 
=={{icon item|Wrench|16px}} [[Wrench]]==
 
{{c|Increased base wrench construction speed on hit boost by 50%. Buildings now build 2.5x faster instead of just 2x (additive of 1.5x + base speed)}}
 
 
 
{{c|Teleporters and Dispensers redeploy +50% faster (2.5x without wrench boost, 5.5x with wrench boost)}}
 
 
 
{{c|Building pick up speed penalty reduced from 25% to 10%}}
 
 
 
{{c|Building repair costs increased from 20 metal to 33 metal to repair 100hp per wrench hit (from 5HP per metal to 3HP per metal)}}
 
 
 
=Questions and Proposals=
 
'''Note: This section is for questions and proposals that aren't specific to a single weapon. If you think a demo ought to be remade, then make an entry for it in the [[Team_Fortress_Wiki_talk:Weapon_Demonstration#Need_to_be_redone|Need to be Redone]] section above and it will be dealt with.'''
 
  
== The Gun Mettle rebalancing ==
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When I start a local server and load tr_krama/tr_krama_event, it won't load (probably because it doesn't exsit) lights/shadow making the map super bright, this only happens on 2 krama maps, I tried to download a modified version of tr_krama on workshop and it worked perfectly, pretty sure something is missing in the map file from weaponref.zip.[[User:Profiteer|<font color="8470FF">Profiteer]] the tryhard ([[User talk:Profiteer|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Profiteer|contribute]])</font> 05:59, 10 March 2024 (UTC)
  
You guys better clear out your schedules, because Valve has a big order coming up. My guestimate is that about a fifth of all videos need to be redone.--[[User:Henke37|Henke37]] ([[User talk:Henke37|talk]]) 04:46, 2 July 2015 (PDT)
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:It works fine on my end.<br>[[File:BLU Wiki Cap.png|20px|link=List of Wiki Cap owners]] {{!}} [[Help:Group rights|<span style="color:green;font-family:TF2 Build;">s</span>]] {{!}} [[User:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">GrampaSwood</font>]] [[File:PraisetheSun.png|20px|alt=Praise the Sun!]] ([[User talk:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) ([[Special:Contributions/GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">contribs</font>]]) 10:11, 10 March 2024 (UTC)
: Yeah, when I saw the list of update notes tears of either joy or sadness came down my cheeks... Not sure which though, haha. <span style="font-family:aharoni; font-size:110%; font-style:;font-weight:bold;">[[File:User_Obilisk_Demo1.png]] [[User:Obilisk|<span style="text-decoration:">Obilisk</span>]]</span> 06:31, 2 July 2015 (PDT)
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::Join the IRC to help you @Profiteer · [[User:Ashe|<font color="DB9C1F">Ashe</font>]] ([[User talk:Ashe|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) 21:33, 16 March 2024 (UTC)
::Well, looks like it's time to dust off Fraps and get back into the swing of things here. --[[User:Akuago220|Akuago220, The Jungle Expeditioner]] ([[User talk:Akuago220|talk]]) 06:42, 2 July 2015 (PDT)
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:::@Profiteer do you have HDR enabled? · [[User:Ashe|<font color="DB9C1F">Ashe</font>]] ([[User talk:Ashe|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) 16:50, 23 March 2024 (UTC)
:::Did anyone miss me? I'm ready to help too. - [[User:Uufje|Uufje]] 08:12, 2 July 2015 (PDT)
 
:::Well, i think that we are ready for this update.[[User:PETPO|PETPO]] ([[User talk:PETPO|talk]]) 08:21, 2 July 2015 (PDT)
 
::::Let's do this. [[File:Charger 2.png|20px|]] [[User:Karmacharger|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Karmacharger</span>]] 1:30 AM 7/3/2015 (PDT)
 
  
Phew.wav. I've put everything in here that was changed. It's probably not perfect, please correct or add anything if needed. - [[User:Uufje|Uufje]] 01:40, 3 July 2015 (PDT)
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== Question about 2D and 3D player models ==
:Good luck to all. Might want to wait a week or so before doing the updated weapons in case they tweak the balance changes a bit? Or feel free to redo them right away if you're feeling adventurous and don't mind having to redo things. — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 21:37, 4 July 2015 (PDT)
 
  
== Pending videos ==
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A question I've had for a while about weapon demonstrations is, is there a specific reason that 2D player images in the HUD are standard rather than the 3D player model (be it for performance, consistency, or any other reason), also considering that 3D player models are enabled by default? The 3D model could also generally be more useful for certain cosmetics or demonstrations. [[User:Scorchshotgaming|Scorchshotgaming]] ([[User talk:Scorchshotgaming|talk]]) 16:47, 8 April 2024 (UTC)
  
On the project page I see a list of videos that are done and good to go, but haven't been uploaded yet. Apparently we're waiting for thumbnails? It's been five months since anything was uploaded to the channel. Isn't there a way to get those thumbnails? - [[User:Uufje|Uufje]] 02:03, 3 July 2015 (PDT)
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: they're buggy, eat up frame rate on a lot of systems, and aren't really necessary. I don't think they really add anything of value to the videos so my vote would be to keep them disabled. [[User:Mediarch|'''Mediarch''']] [[File:User Mediarch PFP.png|25px]][[User:Mediarch|<font color="#ff66cc"> </font>]][[User talk:Mediarch|'''Talk''']][[User:Mediarch|<font color="#ff66cc"> </font>]][[Special:Contributions/Mediarch|'''My Edits''']] 16:50, 8 April 2024 (UTC)
:Yeah, it's getting badly needed at this point. [[User:RagnarHomsar|RagnarHomsar]] used to do all of them, and got (understandably) tired of doing so. He did write a [[User:RagnarHomsar/ThumbnailDocumentation|guide on how to make those thumbnails]] though. If anyone has Windows + a bunch of free time + HLMV setup + Photoshop, please try following that guide and see if it's doable — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 21:37, 4 July 2015 (PDT)
 
::Apparently you need a resolution of 2560x1440... goodness. I'll fiddle around with it and see if I can make it work, but I can't promise anything. - [[User:Uufje|Uufje]] 02:33, 5 July 2015 (PDT)
 
:::Alright, I've got it to work! I'll start working on cranking out some thumbnails. - [[User:Uufje|Uufje]] 06:18, 8 July 2015 (PDT)
 
::::Thanks a lot for doing these. There's a huge backlog to go through :( — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 15:20, 12 July 2015 (PDT)
 
:::::Still very busy (got a flight to catch in 3 hours and I'm just sitting here reviewing weapon demonstration videos (now there's a sentence that will get me on various 3-lettered agencies' watchlist)), will try to release some videos next weekend. — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 18:10, 26 July 2015 (PDT)
 
::::::I'll try to get all the thumbnails for the old videos done by then. - [[User:Uufje|Uufje]] 06:54, 28 July 2015 (PDT)
 
:::::::Might do it tonight or sometime this week hopefully. — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 16:50, 2 August 2015 (PDT)
 
::::::::Published \o/ — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 15:56, 16 August 2015 (PDT)
 
:::::::::And again \o/ — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 17:13, 10 October 2015 (PDT)
 
  
== The jack ==
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::As far as I know, there's no real reason that we prefer one over the other. 3D models are enabled by default, but it may have just been something that was done for a while and became the standard.<br>[[File:BLU Wiki Cap.png|20px|link=List of Wiki Cap owners]] {{!}} [[Help:Group rights|<span style="color:green;font-family:TF2 Build;">s</span>]] {{!}} [[User:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">GrampaSwood</font>]] [[File:PraisetheSun.png|20px|alt=Praise the Sun!]] ([[User talk:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) ([[Special:Contributions/GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">contribs</font>]]) 16:57, 8 April 2024 (UTC)
  
The new gamemode has a weaponlike item that you pickup and throw. I think it would be ideal for a demonstration video.--[[User:Henke37|Henke37]] ([[User talk:Henke37|talk]]) 07:27, 20 August 2015 (PDT)
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:::Fair point, it would obviously be a massive hassle to redo every demonstration with a 2D player model. Also for some people I suppose keeping them off improves framerate. [[User:Scorchshotgaming|Scorchshotgaming]] ([[User talk:Scorchshotgaming|talk]]) 19:59, 8 April 2024 (UTC)
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::::I'm pretty sure it's because when they were added to the game, it caused lag to a lot of people. The recent 64 bits update fixed the 3d character using a lot of cpu and now it shouldn't affect fps (although i guess modern pcs didn't have issue with it anyways) · [[User:Ashe|<font color="DB9C1F">Ashe</font>]] ([[User talk:Ashe|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) 15:21, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
  
== Strangifier ==
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== Mastercomfig question ==
  
I forgot to mention, I made a [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBVGm0cRI_A&feature=youtu.be Strangifier Demonstration] quite a while ago and completley forgot about it. Think it's worth having anywhere? Otherwise I may trash it. <span style="font-family:aharoni; font-size:110%; font-style:;font-weight:bold;">[[File:User_Obilisk_Demo1.png]] [[User:Obilisk|<span style="text-decoration:">Obilisk</span>]]</span> 04:56, 27 August 2015 (PDT)
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I am planning to make a demonstration, and the recommended requirements state that Mastercomfig High/Ultra is preferrable. However, I highly doubt my PC is able to run Mastercomfig High/Ultra properly and all the other high graphics settings. Is it acceptable if I use Mastercomfig Medium High and use average graphics settings? May look slightly lower quality than a typical reservation, but I don't think much will be affected. [[User:Scorchshotgaming|Scorchshotgaming]] ([[User talk:Scorchshotgaming|talk]]) 21:44, 18 April 2024 (UTC)
:If you can set it to music and fix the UI glitches in the scout loadout view (slots appearing as hovered even though they're not) then sure, it's a good tool demonstration. You can fix the UI glitches by taking a snapshot of the scout inventory, cropping out just the item boxes (primary slot and cosmetic slot), and putting them on top of the video in all frames where the cursor isn't on top of the slots. — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 20:21, 9 September 2015 (PDT)
 
:: Alright, I masked out the loadout view, but the problem is doing so makes the footage half of the old UI and half new. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SmhhqxW29fA&feature=youtu.be Tell me what you think.] Overall it probably won't work out. :( <span style="font-family:aharoni; font-size:110%; font-style:;font-weight:bold;">[[File:User_Obilisk_Demo1.png]] [[User:Obilisk|<span style="text-decoration:">Obilisk</span>]]</span> 18:12, 12 September 2015 (PDT)
 
::::Yeah, bleh. Also the Scattergun is visible at 1:57, lol. Please upload the old footage with music. Also, raise the volume on it to match other weapon demonstrations. This is very quiet. — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 18:45, 26 September 2015 (PDT)
 
::::: Haha, can't believe I missed the scattergun, I was too busy focusing on the right side of the screen obviously... Alright I have updated / downdated..? The video. [https://youtu.be/F_E3lnu7zLo How's this?]  I've also included the [http://www.mediafire.com/download/kqkkopcaa61gtpx/Strangifier+demonstration.wmv download link,] if all is good. <span style="font-family:aharoni; font-size:110%; font-style:;font-weight:bold;">[[File:User_Obilisk_Demo1.png]] [[User:Obilisk|<span style="text-decoration:">Obilisk</span>]]</span> 03:12, 27 September 2015 (PDT)
 
::::::Is good, please upload~ — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 21:08, 4 October 2015 (PDT)
 
  
== Shred Alert ==
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:Ultra is preferable, but setting your game to all max settings should suffice.<br>[[File:BLU Wiki Cap.png|20px|link=List of Wiki Cap owners]] {{!}} [[Help:Group rights|<span style="color:green;font-family:TF2 Build;">s</span>]] {{!}} [[User:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">GrampaSwood</font>]] [[File:PraisetheSun.png|20px|alt=Praise the Sun!]] ([[User talk:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) ([[Special:Contributions/GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">contribs</font>]]) 21:45, 18 April 2024 (UTC)
  
So it appears the current video of the Shred Alert [https://youtu.be/aYfczWT1Vrg?t=1m22s has a glitch occurring on the Engineer's loadout,]  it's funny that neither of us spotted it first time 'round haha, I couldn't just redo the for the Engineer's loadout due to the new UI, so I redid them all. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQ5g9SHC7qQ&feature=youtu.be How's this?] I double checked the loadout views this time haha. <span style="font-family:aharoni; font-size:110%; font-style:;font-weight:bold;">[[File:User_Obilisk_Demo1.png]] [[User:Obilisk|<span style="text-decoration:">Obilisk</span>]]</span> 07:23, 3 October 2015 (PDT)
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::Well, I'll look through some configurations, and if I find one that looks high enough quality without sacrificing my computer's performance I will use it (my PC is not too high spec, to say the least). My demonstration is for the Cleaner's Carbine; once you review it tell me your thoughts. For me this is especially important because I will need to screen record this too. [[User:Scorchshotgaming|Scorchshotgaming]] ([[User talk:Scorchshotgaming|talk]]) 21:48, 18 April 2024 (UTC)
:Lol whoops. Is good, please upload~ — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 21:08, 4 October 2015 (PDT)
 
:: Cool, [http://www.mediafire.com/download/s0gysor7mwdn0jv/Shred+Alert+Taunt+Demonstration.wmv download.] <span style="font-family:aharoni; font-size:110%; font-style:;font-weight:bold;">[[File:User_Obilisk_Demo1.png]] [[User:Obilisk|<span style="text-decoration:">Obilisk</span>]]</span> 03:18, 5 October 2015 (PDT)
 

Latest revision as of 21:52, 8 May 2024


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Chemistry Set Chemistry Set

Hi, just made a vid demonstration about Chemistry kit. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R2uEkaw6Jbs&feature=youtu.be What should i do next? ~ Fokus 03.06.2020 16:50 GMT+2

Hi there,
You now have to wait for WindPower to respond. He usually does this every week on Sundays, though he's very busy nowadays.
My advice on your video is: Don't start in the Main Menu, start in the backpack (first page) instead. Make sure your backpack's page is also clear of other stuff, so when you finished using the chemistry set it doesnt go to the third page and you'll have to drag it from there. Show yourself using the Chemistry Set, too, it's part of its functionality. Your video also seems to have a delay between sound and the video.
It also lacks editing.
GrampaSwood (talk) 15:05, 3 June 2020 (UTC)
> he's very busy nowadays
You give me too much credit. — Wind 05:44, 8 July 2020 (UTC)
Hi, thanks for tips. I fixed the video, now it should be much better. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-fgON6QQ6Mk&feature=youtu.be
Fokuskii (talk) 23:53, 3 June 2020 (UTC)
The same problem applies with the backpack. It should start on the first page (that's empty except for the required items). The section where you hover over the chemistry set is too long, perhaps make it 1 or 2 seconds. The same thing applies to the end, show the strangifier being applied. It also lacks fading (A lot of these things can be fixed with simple editing, but I think the pages thing will have to be done with a new one :\)
GrampaSwood (talk) 13:10, 4 June 2020 (UTC)
The video should also be 1080p (your first version was 1080p but the second version is 720p). Agreed with all other comments — Wind 05:44, 8 July 2020 (UTC)

I have both an alt and a professor speks chemistry set for this demonstration, I just have yet to find the password to the account...
BLU Wiki Cap.png | s | GrampaSwood Praise the Sun! (talk) (contribs) 21:36, 12 November 2023 (UTC)

Hey, was wondering if this was still open? I can do a possible version with a collector chemistry kit but not sure if it matters if it's strangifier or collector's. God'sWrath (talk) 01:15, 16 February 2024 (UTC)

It's still open, although a collector's kit may be too large as it would require showing all 100 items added.
BLU Wiki Cap.png | s | GrampaSwood Praise the Sun! (talk) (contribs) 11:13, 16 February 2024 (UTC)
Ah, alright so what if I show a strangifier first and add a section for the collector's where I only put 1 in but I put disclaimer stating it's x amount of x items and not 1 item for a collector's kit? So video doesn't drag out. God'sWrath (talk) 03:41, 17 February 2024 (UTC)
Just pick a simpler, cheaper chemistry set like in the first video · Ashe (talk) 05:15, 17 February 2024 (UTC)

Upgrade to Premium Gift Upgrade to Premium Gift

I'm not quite sure if this one is necessary User Karmacharger Charger 2.png Karmacharger 9:12 PM 8/24/2014 (PDT)
Nah, probably not unless someone just happens to run upon that item — Wind 19:59, 27 October 2014 (PDT)

Question: Do I need to show I, person giving the premium gift, receive the professor speks?
GrampaSwood (talk) 11:04, 6 September 2019 (UTC)

Yes, that's part of the item's effects. — Wind 23:39, 8 September 2019 (UTC)

I have brought the premium gift to another account, the only issue is that the professor speks is already on my TF2 account, so I would need a third account to receive the speks (while already having premium). It may take a while longer but if anyone else wants to give a crack at it.
BLU Wiki Cap.png | s | GrampaSwood Praise the Sun! (talk) (contribs) 21:36, 12 November 2023 (UTC)

Something Special For Someone Special Something Special For Someone Special (Tool)

Pictogram wait.png This demonstration has been reserved: Mediarch User Mediarch PFP.pngTalkMy Edits 00:29, 2 May 2024 (UTC)

Old discussion (2019)

Hi. I know this item is quite expensive for someone to make a demonstration, but I was thinking, a video showcasing how the item works (which the purchaser's choose they person), and then, on the same video, showing the chosen player's screen perspective, showing the option to accept the proposal, and after that, showing the notification on the Main Menu for the accepted proposal.
Considering the high cost that would be making this demonstration, I wonder if Valve could gives us a hand and supply one for our demonstrations purposes, as long we delete both rings after doing the full video.
It seems that the process is mostly the same as the Gift Wrap, but I have no idea how are the things when someone receives that Gift. We also lack a proper Gift Wrap video, apparently. User Gabrielwoj Signature Icon.png - User Gabrielwoj Signature 1.pngUser Gabrielwoj Signature 2.png - User Gabrielwoj Signature 3.png 19:26, 16 July 2019 (UTC)

Keep dreaming, valve won't even fix server issues much less give us free items. If you are planning to make a demonstration though, better ask windpower for some super detailed instructions to make sure it's right the first time. Naleksuh (talk) 21:37, 18 July 2019 (UTC)
Well, they have the ability to both give and delete items, it could work? Yes. Will it happen? We don't know. If there's anything we can do, is ask for someone who plans on buying one legitimately and asking them for help. Last time that the item got in 50% off, a lot of people bought one, so. User Gabrielwoj Signature Icon.png - User Gabrielwoj Signature 1.pngUser Gabrielwoj Signature 2.png - User Gabrielwoj Signature 3.png 20:01, 19 July 2019 (UTC)
If you give it some time, I could save up to get it and try to make it.
GrampaSwood (talk) 20:16, 19 July 2019 (UTC)
I offer to give a 50 USD Steam gift card to anyone who has already gotten an item demonstration video approved and uploaded in order to make this demonstration, and then another 50 USD Steam gift card upon video approval. I'm not sure what the price of the item is in other currencies but I'll also match that if possible as long as it's not too much more expensive. Please make sure to record both sides (sender account and receiver account). — Wind 23:00, 21 July 2019 (UTC)
Well, I guess we should start discussing how should it be done. Firstly, I think the Gifter should be named "Scout" and the Recipient be "Miss Pauling". Scout has the Scout avatar (184x184 version from Steam), while Miss Pauling can use this. I think the name could be something along what Scout would say, my suggestion, name it as "You are really frickin' sweet". That'd go nice, eh?
Secondly, I don't know who's going to be the Recipient. Should we create a Steam account just for that, or should we rely with another Video Demonstration Creator to do a collab? User Gabrielwoj Signature Icon.png - User Gabrielwoj Signature 1.pngUser Gabrielwoj Signature 2.png - User Gabrielwoj Signature 3.png 23:55, 21 July 2019 (UTC)

well how about we can hit two birds with one store and do the ring and the Upgrade to Premium Gift from the same two account?, First the two account would demostrate the Upgrade to Premium Gift which the sender should buy it from the store and send to the receiver who don't have premium. them Recycle the same account to do the ring. We could make a story out of it as well from friendship when a user gifted the premium to the other use then after few days they both got engaged via the sender would give the ring. It won't end up a awkward situation. but for this situation we need 4 people to do the ring tho 2 sender reciever, 2 regular tf2 player to recieved the message one in the tf2 main menu and the other while in-gameJomarcenter (talk) 14:27, 28 August 2019 (UTC)
That's a cute story, but let's keep the demonstration to just one item (the ring), not the Upgrade to Premium Gift on top of it. — Wind 22:17, 1 September 2019 (UTC)
I don't know what you're talking about, wind. Story time is clearly more important than the actual video. (but in all seriousness the two accounts would be okay to reuse right?) Naleksuh (talk) 04:52, 4 September 2019 (UTC)
Yeah, sure, it would just be two separate videos — Wind 23:39, 8 September 2019 (UTC)

I kind of thought the role playing names were unnnecessary to begin with, and could also cause confusion as to whether or not those texts always appear in game. But if WP or thed feels that's the best way to do it without commercializing it then oh well for me.
The two steam accounts would be kinda hard to sync up (and would also be a waste of $100), i'm willing to be proposed to if no one else will :) Naleksuh (talk) 01:06, 25 July 2019 (UTC)
No need for roleplaying. It's cool if you want to do it but totally optional. — Wind 06:26, 29 July 2019 (UTC)

Mannpower Powerup King.png Mannpower powerups

Pictogram comment.png Demonstrate all powerups.

Pictogram comment.png Show you can switch to the Grappling Hook under the effects of the Knockout powerup.

Hello, I had a question about preforming/recording this demonstration. Mannpower has a domination mechanic (Not to be confused with dominations), this mechanic works by when a player has many more kills than other players on the enemy team, and so that player gets nerfs on their power ups. I'm guessing I would have to demonstrate this in the video, however I do not know how to activate it. I have not been able to activate this on myself in tr_karma, however even if I did, the player who is dominating does not get the message on their screen showing that they are dominating. The only effects the player who is dominating sees is they are marked for death if they have a power up, and a nerf on that power up for that player. I don't know how I would go about demonstrating the effects of domination mechanic, considering the viewer wouldn't know that being marked for death with a power up means you are dominating. If I were to get the domination mechanic to work, should I just show the class as marked for death, or something else? Andrew360 Edit icon.png Taunt Rancho Relaxo.png 01:51, 12 July 2022 (UTC)

This does sound hard to demonstrate. If you enable third-person mode, do you see the skull icon above the player's head in the 3D world (not on the HUD)? If so, here's a structure that might work:
  • Spawn enough enemies on the map such that you can reach domination status, and still have enough enemies left over to show that the effect isn't about killing *all* other enemies.
  • Start the demonstration in first-person mode.
  • Switch to third-person mode.
  • Kill enough enemies such that domination status appears.
  • Highlight the correlation between the third-person skull icon and the HUD one, for example by zooming in on both at once, or drawing a red box around both or something.

Now you've established that "skull on HUD" = "having killed enough enemies".

Now, demonstrate each powerup one by one. For each powerup, do a split-screen, with the left being non-dominating, and the right being already-in-dominating status. Pick up the powerup on both clips and demonstrate the effect. The skull icon being visible on the clip on the right should be enough of a hint that this is the cause. If not obvious enough, you can draw attention to it at the beginning of the clip, such as by drawing a red box over it or something.

Hope this helps. I suggest doing a test demo with just one or two powerups demonstrated and posting it here first before doing all the work it would take to get this all done for all powerups, as there are a lot. (Perhaps each powerup should have its own video? That's a separate question...)

Wind 21:39, 31 July 2022 (UTC)

I might try my hand at this, but only after I finish my other demonstrations and receive feedback and corrections for them. Po1yb1ank (talk) 23:56, 14 December 2023 (UTC)

Secret Saxton Secret Saxton

Pictogram wait.png This demonstration has been reserved: CheddarTalk 16:07, 27 April 2024 (UTC)
I don't think it's very needed, but since it seems very simple, I can do it · Ashe (talk) 05:13, 16 December 2023 (UTC)

Won't you need another person since they are only delivered to players while playing on a server? Cheddar (talk) 08:18, 16 December 2023 (UTC)
To add on, maybe have it filmed from the perspective of the gift being sent, and have the perspective of the recipient? Cheddar (talk) 08:19, 16 December 2023 (UTC)
I could help with this one, I can do most days after 22:00 CEST Po1yb1ank (talk) 15:29, 16 December 2023 (UTC)
@Po1yb1ank we appreciate your enthusiasm, but before doing this, please complete the KGB video first. I can wait · Ashe (talk) 17:45, 16 December 2023 (UTC)
Sure thing, I've just been trying to edit it and the fist bump videos, expect them both in the coming days. Po1yb1ank (talk) 21:34, 16 December 2023 (UTC)
I might delay doing the KGB taunt until the new year, I was going through the files and all of them have bots dropping the Smissmas presents, so expect the KGB to be completed later than expected. Po1yb1ank (talk) 13:55, 20 December 2023 (UTC)

──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── I'm still up for making this demonstration, I would need a lovely assistant to help out with it. Cheddar (talk) 18:24, 21 January 2024 (UTC)

IF you still need an assist I could help some time just let me know Mediarch (talk) 23:43, 12 March 2024 (UTC)
Yeah still need a hand with it, the only problem is getting a way to join one another because using create server won't make it joinable, I think there some other stuff you gotta do.
CheddarTalk 07:53, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
pretty sure You should be able to use https://na.serveme.tf/ to temporarily rent a server. That's what a lot of the competitive teams use for matches. If that doesn't work I could ask around and know a few people that might have their own servers we could borrow Mediarch (talk) 08:49, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
Here is the demo feedback needed!
CheddarTalk 17:30, 27 April 2024 (UTC)
Here is a newer version!
CheddarTalk 19:51, 28 April 2024 (UTC)

Action

Spellbook Magazine Spellbook Magazine

Pictogram comment.png Demonstrate all Magic spells with the Stock (Normal quality) version equipped.

Pictogram comment.png Maybe include this one on the Magic spells page, other spellbook variants are not needed (Fancy and Diary).
Suggestion: Use tf_test_spellindex to always get a specific spell · Ashe (talk) 21:19, 28 January 2024 (UTC)

Fancy Spellbook Fancy Spellbook

Pictogram comment.png Same as above, with the exception that the particle effects that emit on the hand are different.

Fireproof Secret Diary Fireproof Secret Diary

Pictogram comment.png Same as above, with the exception that the particle effects that emit on the hand are different.

Kritz or Treat Canteen Kritz or Treat Canteen

Heavyhumiliation.png Match outcomes

Pictogram comment.png Current one does not show front, crouching, running, etc, at all angles.

So there's a bit of a problem with showing the other angles with this demonstration, as you can't actually rotate the camera. Despite it being in third person, you cannot change the angle of the camera nor use +left or +right to make only the camera move. Any attempt to move the camera either doesn't work or makes the character move along with the camera. My original plan for this demonstration was the following:

  • Show a split screen with a player on RED team on one screen and player on BLU team on the other screen
    • The RED player would capture the intelligence on 2Fort, and the other screen would show the BLU player in humiliation after they lose
      • This part would repeat for each class
  • It would then cut to tr_karma where I would rotate the camera around the class when they're standing, crouching, running, etc
  • After this I would move on to the next class until all of them are done

However I can't do this because I can't rotate the camera, does anyone have any ideas on how to rotate or have other ideas of how to demonstration and show the different angles?
Andrew360 Edit icon.png Taunt Rancho Relaxo.png 22:47, 6 February 2023 (UTC)

How about just use the RED player to see the BLU humiliation animation. Like:
RED player is the main camera, BLU player is a bot/a smaller pip/split screen in the video
  1. BLU player stands beside the intel point
  2. RED player captures the intel and win the game
  3. BLU player enters humiliation
  4. RED player look at the BLU player
  5. BLU player moves around to show off the humiliation animation.
I feel like this also shows off the concept of "match outcomes", make the whole story connected via one team wins and see another team loses with humiliation animations. Do we have to use tr_karma map for demonstration? Is this demonstration video about "match outcomes" or "humiliation animations"?--AlexT 03:19, 7 February 2023 (UTC)
Simply using thirdperson_mayamode it would be possible to show off these animations from a stationary angle (turning your character rather than camera, although tr_karma/tr_target have no winning objective, so you'd need a different map for it (I suggest Thunder Mountain and standing in first BLU's spawn so it's still somewhat related to the tr_target map, using mp_bonusroundtime to extend the time at the end and just capping the first point).
GrampaSwood (talk) 11:01, 7 February 2023 (UTC)
I'm a bit confused on what you mean on the capping part, as you say to stay in BLU spawn, but also cap the point to win which would make BLU would win and RED would be in humiliation. Do you mean to make the time run out so RED wins instead?
Andrew360 Edit icon.png Taunt Rancho Relaxo.png 23:24, 7 February 2023 (UTC)
Either works. Just any way to make the classes go into the humiliation pose. I personally wouldn't mind it that much if RED was in BLU spawn, but it's up to you.
GrampaSwood (talk) 12:33, 8 February 2023 (UTC)
I went in game to test out thirdperson_mayamode, and it does not work, as for some reason the losing animation isn't considered as in "thirdperson" by the game I think. Does anyone else have any other ideas? Only other way I can think of is using SourceTV, however I don't know how to set that up.
Andrew360 Edit icon.png Taunt Rancho Relaxo.png 01:15, 12 February 2023 (UTC)

Need to be redone

Axtinguisher Axtinguisher, Postal Pummeler Postal Pummeler

Pictogram comment.png Updated attribute (removed Sketchek references), also doesn't show minicrit on pyro

Pictogram wait.png This demonstration has been reserved: Mediarch User Mediarch PFP.pngTalkMy Edits 19:21, 28 March 2024 (UTC)

Is this good? Let me know if you like it and i'll do it again for the postal pumeller. Upload link is here. Naleksuh (talk) 19:48, 15 April 2019 (UTC)

The framerate is very low, maybe try to reduce your video settings. - Thedop 17:27, 22 April 2019 (UTC+1)
It's 30fps, how is that "very low"? windpower was okay with 30fps before. Naleksuh (talk) 23:37, 22 April 2019 (UTC)
Well, maybe it's just me. - Thedop 08:40, 23 April 2019 (UTC+1)
I agree with Thedop. The demonstration itself is very good, but the framerate is low which makes it look very choppy. That's my two cents at least Zeklyn (talk) 06:59, 23 April 2019 (UTC)
i dont know if i have the raw video files anymore but i might try exporting in a higher fps Naleksuh (talk) 15:49, 23 April 2019 (UTC)
A video might be 30 frames per second, but what matters is the number of *distinct* frames per second. If a video has 30 frames per second and every set of 3 frames is identical, then it may be technically 30 frames per second, but to the eye it's actually just 10 frames per second.
This video is definitely in the "too low framerate" category; if you're not convinced of that, compare the Axtinguisher swing animation in 0.25x speed on your video vs the current video and count the number of unique frames of the swing animation that you can see. You can actually count them in your video, which means it's too low framerate.
Also, the fade in/out of the 3-way split-screen has overlapping clips, i.e. each clip is transparently bleeding into each other. One easy way to solve this is to render a separate video with the 3-way split-screen rendered with no fades at high quality, then import that video as a single clip into the main video, and add the fades there.
Lastly, please add a second or so after the 3-way split-screen clip, as it currently ends before the last damage number finishes scrolling off. — Wind 00:37, 20 May 2019 (UTC)

I have a question before doing this one: Should I show off that even players immune to afterburn (Pyros/Danger Shield Sniper)? Like on a Pyro being actively burned can still get hit with the Mini-Crit (Its damage is based off of afterburn, if Pyros are immune to afterburn some people may think it means there is no damage bonus). If yes, can I do it with the Degreaser for faster switch speed or have a secondary Pyro ready?
GrampaSwood (talk) 18:00, 28 February 2020 (UTC)

Sure, sounds useful to show. I think showing it on the Pyro is enough. — Wind 04:11, 24 April 2020 (UTC)
Video done, just have to edit it.
GrampaSwood (talk) 08:33, 27 June 2020 (UTC)

Here's the Axtinguisher Mediarch User Mediarch PFP.pngTalkMy Edits 23:02, 28 March 2024 (UTC)

here's v2 for the axe Mediarch User Mediarch PFP.pngTalkMy Edits 17:25, 8 April 2024 (UTC)

Here's the Mailbox Mediarch User Mediarch PFP.pngTalkMy Edits 23:04, 28 March 2024 (UTC)

It seems like you left the combattext batching setting on, which makes it add up all the damage. Looks good otherwise.
BLU Wiki Cap.png | s | GrampaSwood Praise the Sun! (talk) (contribs) 20:40, 7 April 2024 (UTC)
Here's Version 2 for the Mailbox Mediarch User Mediarch PFP.pngTalkMy Edits 17:21, 8 April 2024 (UTC)

Crusader's Crossbow Crusader's Crossbow

Pictogram comment.png Ubercharge gain rate is reduced in the same way that the Medi Gun's healing (and therefore, Ubercharge build rate) is - it is based on the last time the target was in combat.

Pictogram comment.png Does not show that if you try to heal up an enemy Spy, Über is not built.

Pictogram comment.png Does not show that if you heal an enemy player through a Pyro's reflect, Über is built.

I removed the clip from the previous demonstration when the medic is building his übercharge with the crossbow, the actual changes make it way too long. VideoThedop (talk) 14:44, 11 September 2019 (UTC)

The picture-in-picture clip is too large and covers the center of the main video's vision. So when the heavy/spy turns to see the medic, it just doesn't show up on the screen. Please decrease the size of the picture-in-picture — Wind 00:38, 16 September 2019 (UTC)
Second tryThedop (talk) 06:45, 25 September 2019 (UTC)
The Minigun is still hiding the medic when he's firing... — Wind 00:07, 30 September 2019 (UTC)
*sigh* Thedop's demonstration has been in hiatus for two years. Maybe I can make my own demonstration if Thedop doesn't mind. — Exaskliri (they/them) (talk | contribs) 06:43, 14 April 2022 (UTC)
Demonstration reservations are only valid for 2 weeks. If the reservation tag remains on a video and no action has happened since, you can ignore the reservation and replace it with a reservation of your own. — Wind 00:33, 24 April 2022 (UTC)
Oh, and by the way, don't forget to add a demonstration of healing afterburn (probably the most common type of status effect). Qwertyxp2000 (talk) 23:17, 16 June 2022 (UTC)
Definitely doable for making an entry about using Crossbow at point blank range to both hit enemies and heal teammates. Qwertyxp2000 (talk) 21:06, 25 June 2022 (UTC)

Dalokohs Bar Dalokohs Bar

Pictogram wait.png This demonstration has been reserved: Mediarch User Mediarch PFP.pngTalkMy Edits 16:18, 19 April 2024 (UTC) Pictogram comment.png The model now included the bite mark, the plate model added

As mentioned on the weapon's page, the overheal bug is still effective since JI and i'm not sure if it's temporary or not. - Thedop 19:11, 20 Obtober 2018 (UTC+1)

Got this video finished, just need 1 more scene with Thedop.
Edit on 27/6/2020: Same thing applies
GrampaSwood (talk) 13:12, 9 February 2020 (UTC)
The video files are on a different PC now, so unlikely I'll ever bother to retrieve them. Someone else can do them at some point.
BLU Wiki Cap.png | s | GrampaSwood Praise the Sun! (talk) (contribs) 21:36, 12 November 2023 (UTC)

A demonstration of the Dalokohs bar https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F8lOulgqmZ4 Wimmer 23:01, 1 December 2023 (GMT+1)

Looks good.
BLU Wiki Cap.png | s | GrampaSwood Praise the Sun! (talk) (contribs) 12:37, 2 December 2023 (UTC)
In the loadout scene the heavy is not holding the chocolate. You could also increase the volume by 50%. Everything else is good · Ashe (talk) 05:31, 17 February 2024 (UTC)

Here's V1 of the Dalokohs bar demo Mediarch User Mediarch PFP.pngTalkMy Edits 22:57, 20 April 2024 (UTC)

Not sure if it's a bit picky, but I personally think that the recharge scene should involve Heavy eating chocolate off cooldown, so it will show how many chocolates Heavy can eat before the Sandvich recharges. Qwertyxp2000 (talk) 22:07, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
chocolatev2 with more chocolate eatingMediarch User Mediarch PFP.pngTalkMy Edits 22:53, 22 April 2024 (UTC)

Enforcer Enforcer

Note: Future redos won't have to do as many status effect clips as the previous video. - Thedop 19:11, 20 October 2018 (UTC+1)

Fishcake Fishcake

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Pictogram comment.png The model now included the bite mark, the plate model added

See Dalokohs Bar. - Thedop 10:39, 12 October 2018 (UTC+1)

Got this video finished, just need 1 more scene with Thedop.
Edit on 27/6/2020: Same thing applies
GrampaSwood (talk) 13:12, 9 February 2020 (UTC)

Here is my version of the Fishcake weapon demonstration https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ym8r-gSEm10 - Wimmer 4:46, 25 November 2023 (GMT+1)

You don't need to spin the Heavy around in the Loadout menu, simply hover over the weapon then press escape once you feel like the viewer has had enough time to read the description. When the Soldier fires, you are also getting healed by the Medic at the same time. There is a command to only have bots with a specific weapon fire, not sure what the parameter for the Rocket Launcher is, but using that command bound to a key would be better as it wouldn't temporarily have you healed by the Medic. Alternatively, try to stand in a position where the Medic won't hit you when he heals.
It seems like the clip for dropping the Fishcake on the ground is missing, it's meant to demonstrate that picking it up yourself while injured doesn't heal you. It's also not necessary to use voice lines, no need to yell for Medic or say thanks. Although a nice touch, it makes the video feel more like a cartoonish animation video than a demonstration. When the clip with the Medic starts, ideally you would have an unbitten Fishcake, and when the clip of the Soldier starts ideally you'd have max ammo (so 4 loaded, 20 reserve). When killing the Heavy, make sure your hit/killsound is off and that you look at the ammo pack he drops before walking over it. Currently, it looks like walking over a dropped Fishcake gives you health. Also a minor nitpick, friendly classes should be called "Friendly Classname". So rather than "Medic", it should be "Friendly Medic".
I like the inspect after eating it, that's not smth that's been done before IIRC but it's a nice touch.
BLU Wiki Cap.png | s | GrampaSwood Praise the Sun! (talk) (contribs) 12:12, 25 November 2023 (UTC)
Thanks for the verifications, I'll make sure to fix all of these issues. And I do too think it's worth inspecting the item after eating it, especially with how the fishcake never had a bit model before.
Wimmer 12:14, 28 November 2023 (GMT+1)
Here is the new version of the Fishcake weapon demonstration with the suggested changes https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Md1n6ei8Z1M
Wimmer 14:48, 28 November 2023 (GMT+1)
In the loadout menu, your mouse should be over the Fishcake the entire time (this can be easily fixed, it only requires editing so no entire redo). The only thing that's missing is a clip of the Medic being on fire and being extinguished (you can skip the Medic walking over it, you can just make it so the Medic is on fire and then you throw it directly at him. Otherwise it requires 2 players). Other than that, it looks good to me, especially the transition between the first clip and the second clip. That must have taken a long time to set up, though do note that it's not entirely necessary if you do feel like it's too much effort, so don't worry about doing that each transition.
BLU Wiki Cap.png | s | GrampaSwood Praise the Sun! (talk) (contribs) 14:04, 28 November 2023 (UTC)
Here is the new version of the Fishcake weapon demonstration with the new changes https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xFnrRS-ihbY
Wimmer 21:22, 29 November 2023 (GMT+1)
Yeah looks good, although I swear in previous clips you were damaged when you picked up the Fishcake that was dropped on the floor. If you are going to re-record that, perhaps reload your Rocket Launcher beforehand to make sure it shows you get healed but no ammo. It also doesn't show off the Scout's 25 extra HP from dropped lunchbox items.
BLU Wiki Cap.png | s | GrampaSwood Praise the Sun! (talk) (contribs) 20:39, 29 November 2023 (UTC)
Added the reload for Soldier and the scout scene https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OKHJxhkDWxQ
Wimmer 23:42, 29 November 2023 (GMT+1)
I just realised I forgot to disable the Killsound again, I’ll have to modify that
Wimmer 12:12, 30 November 2023 (GMT+1)
New revision with no killsounds https://youtu.be/tOotHamBl2s
Wimmer 00:45, 1 December 2023 (GMT+1)
Seems like you're not injured during the clips where you kill the Heavy, other than that I don't see any issues.
BLU Wiki Cap.png | s | GrampaSwood Praise the Sun! (talk) (contribs) 00:37, 1 December 2023 (UTC)
Final edit of the Fishcake Demonstration video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kTVlybWCIf4
Wimmer 22:06, 1 December 2023 (GMT+1)

────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────Looks good to me.
BLU Wiki Cap.png | s | GrampaSwood Praise the Sun! (talk) (contribs) 12:37, 2 December 2023 (UTC)

Looks good. Send the link· Ashe (talk) 17:49, 17 February 2024 (UTC)

Fishcakev1Mediarch User Mediarch PFP.pngTalkMy Edits 20:25, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

Should I also include a comparison of how fast it recharges compared to the normal Sandvich? Would just be a quick little sided by side. Mediarch User Mediarch PFP.pngTalkMy Edits 00:12, 20 April 2024 (UTC)
Yes.
BLU Wiki Cap.png | s | GrampaSwood Praise the Sun! (talk) (contribs) 08:41, 20 April 2024 (UTC)
Here's V2 with the sandvich comparison Mediarch User Mediarch PFP.pngTalkMy Edits 22:55, 20 April 2024 (UTC)
Likewise with the Chocolate comment, I sorta believe it would be a good idea to have Heavy eat the fishcake off cooldown just to show how many fishcakes he can eat before the Sandvich recharges. Qwertyxp2000 (talk) 22:11, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
fishcake V3Mediarch User Mediarch PFP.pngTalkMy Edits 22:57, 22 April 2024 (UTC)

Gloves of Running Urgently Gloves of Running Urgently

Pictogram comment.png Show the hidden (?) functionality with Dalakohs Bar/Fishcake.

Pictogram comment.png Have a section dedicated to see if it's faster to run with the GRU at a certain point + eating the Dalokhs vs. not using the GRU.

GRU has a hidden (?) functionality with the chocolate bar which can regenerate all the health lost upon eating. Not shown on the demonstration video, should it be? Video about the functionality. I am also not sure if this should be a thing on the Daloks/Fishcake video or GRU (or both). User Gabrielwoj Signature Icon.png - User Gabrielwoj Signature 1.pngUser Gabrielwoj Signature 2.png - User Gabrielwoj Signature 3.png 14:29, 14 August 2021 (UTC)

It's most likely a glitch and not intended. Yes, it's been out since forever, but so are other glitches out there, and these videos typically don't demonstrate these, in order to avoid a redo in case valve ever fixes them (lol, I know). — Wind 05:03, 17 September 2021 (UTC)

Holiday Punch Holiday Punch

Pictogram comment.png Does not demonstrate that disguised spies do not laugh from Holiday Punch.

Pictogram comment.png Does not demonstrate interaction between cloaked spies and Holiday Punch crits.

I kind of felt Holiday Punch could possibly be redone such that it demonstrates its interaction with cloaked and disguised spies. Qwertyxp2000 (talk) 08:11, 17 March 2020 (UTC)

Not very practical, but sure, if anyone's up for it — Wind 04:11, 24 April 2020 (UTC)
Not sure if I have to create a new section for the Holiday Punch or add information on an already existing one, but there's several things that probably should also be demonstrated:
Pictogram comment.png Demonstrate that enemies underwater doesn't laugh on the back / critical hits, which therefore, they don't receive damage (The map used for demonstrations does not have water, though)
Pictogram comment.png Demonstrate that punching an enemy at the back / doing a critical hit on an enemy that is jumping / is on the air, has no effect, and does no damage
Pictogram comment.png Demonstrate that it's possible to tickle enemies that are being Ubercharged, possibly include both the patient and the Medic being tickled
  • Tickle the patient first, show that it's still in the effects of Uber, and tickle the Medic second, that would probably be more ideal, so it shows that when a Medic is tickled, his target loses the healing / ubercharge
  • Perhaps also demonstrate the Quick-Fix ubercharge, since it mentions it blocks "movement-impairing effects", which isn't the case for the Holiday Punch (I'm pretty sure you can still get tickled with the Quick-Fix uber)
Pictogram comment.png Demonstrate that a Scout with the effects of Bonk! can be tickled
Pictogram comment.png Demonstrate that a Soldier with the Battalion's Backup active, as well his teammates receiving the Backup effect, can still be tickled
A few other ones that I am unsure about:
Pictogram comment.png Demonstrate that it's not possible to tickle robots and giant robots on MVM (I don't think we often make MVM-related stuff on these demonstrations, unless it's an unique mechanic like the Projectile Shield)
Pictogram comment.png Demonstrate that an enemy who is taunting does not get tickled, and that it receives no damage on critical hits Headphones style when? - User Gabrielwoj Signature 1.pngUser Gabrielwoj Signature 2.png - User Gabrielwoj Signature 3.png 04:23, 24 April 2022 (UTC)
The tr_karma_rc1 map has water (see Sydney Sleeper demonstration here). I use that map for demonstrations, as it is preferred (according to the Weapon Demonstration page). — Exaskliri (they/them) (talk | contribs) 09:23, 24 April 2022 (UTC)
No to the Quick-Fix + Bonk + Battalion's Backup things; as the project page states, non-stock item interactions are usually not demonstrated, in order to avoid having a full explosion of weapon interactions to demonstrate. The Quick Fix one also sounds like a bug, so usually that isn't worth demonstrating either because it has marginal utility and may eventually get patched, which would just create more video work later down the line. But all the other points are good to demonstrate, so +1 that a redo is in order for this one — Wind 04:49, 12 May 2022 (UTC)

I have an idea on how the new video might be represented:

Part 1: The Main Gang (Pyro, Soldier, Medic, Spy)

  • Do the same actions as was done in the original video

Part 2: Basic Interactions Do the same actions as was done in the original video, demonstrating Kritzkrieg on Soldier (via friendly Medic) and Jarate on Demoman (via friendly Sniper), plus another for Medic interactions.

Part 2a:

  1. Approach friendly Kritzkrieg Medic, who has full charge
  2. Get charged with the Kritzkrieg buff
  3. Keep punching the enemy Soldier until the buff wears off
  4. Punch again while the buff is off, and keep doing it until the Soldier dies

Part 2b:

  1. Approach friendly Sniper holding Jarate
  2. Let the Sniper throw Jarate at the enemy Demoman
  3. Attack the Demoman normally while he is Jarated
  4. Attack the Demoman from behind while he is Jarated
  5. Kill the Demoman normally again while he is Jarated

Part 2c:

  1. (This is where the new stuff begins) Approach an enemy Medic who is healing a friendly enemy Scout with his Medi Gun
  2. Attack the Scout from the front and behind
  3. Enemy Medic activate Medi Gun invulnerability
  4. Do the same as Step 2 onto Scout except while Übercharged
  5. Do the same as Step 4 except on Medic

Part 3: Versus Mittens Heavy

  1. Approach the enemy Mittens Heavy
  2. Attack the Mittens Heavy with your Holiday Punch. Watch him laugh.
  3. Let the Mittens Heavy attack you with his Holiday Punch. Watch yourself laugh.
  4. Mittens Heavy will swap out Holiday Punch for Minigun.
  5. Attack the Heavy with your Holiday Punch.
  6. Swap your Holiday Punch for the Shotgun
  7. Mittens Heavy will swap out Minigun for Holiday Punch
  8. Let the Mittens Heavy attack you with his Holiday Punch.
  9. (This is where the new stuff begins) Jump, and while mid-air let the Mittens Heavy attack you with his Holiday Punch. There should be no laugh.
  10. Go behind the Mitten Heavy's back
  11. Let the Mittens Heavy jump, and attack the Mittens Heavy with your Holiday Punch. There should be no laugh.

Part 4: Spy Interactions View from the Heavy's and Spy's points of view, with a smaller video on the top-right (or something like that) for the Spy's point of view.

  1. Approach the enemy Spy
  2. Let the enemy Spy cloak
  3. Attack the Spy with your Holiday Punch from behind. There should be no laugh.
  4. Let the enemy Spy uncloak and disguise as any class (maybe the Heavy again)
  5. Attack the Spy with your Holiday Punch from behind. There should be no laugh.

Part 5: Taunts and Water

  1. Let the enemy Engineer taunt from his Shotgun. It should be the one where he dances around.
  2. While the enemy Engineer is taunting, attack him from behind with the Holiday Punch. There should be no laugh.
  3. Repeat Steps 1 and 2 except attack him from the front.
  4. The enemy Engineer runs to the water. Follow him into the water.
  5. Attack him from behind with the Holiday Punch. There should be no laugh.

Part 6: Robots

  1. Approach an enemy Robot, preferably the Holiday Punch Heavy Robot.
  2. Attack him with your Holiday Punch from the front, and then attack him from behind. There should be no laugh.

Qwertyxp2000 (talk) 02:49, 8 June 2022 (UTC) Qwertyxp2000 (talk) 02:51, 8 June 2022 (UTC) Qwertyxp2000 (talk) 10:08, 8 June 2022 (UTC)

Very detailed, nice. — Wind 22:48, 19 June 2022 (UTC)
By the way, I also think that it would be helpful to add a section dedicating to observing a duration comparison for all Schadenfreude taunts. I have a feeling that the length of the taunt has an impact on gameplay of the Holiday Punch. So maybe we could do a section where 9 Holiday Punch Heavies simultaneously attack one of each class, which demonstrates the time it would take to get out of the forced animation. Qwertyxp2000 (talk) 01:41, 22 June 2022 (UTC)
Might be cool if only for the comedy of it all. — Wind 21:39, 31 July 2022 (UTC)
On "Part 4 - Let the enemy Spy uncloak and disguise as any class (maybe the Heavy again)", why not make the Spy disguise as the Heavy, and make sure that the Holiday Punch is active? The Spy won't be able to laugh, but I wonder if you (the player), would laugh. In case that happens, then it would be important to also showcase trying to punch the Spy from behind without having him with the Holiday Punch active. Headphones style when? - User Gabrielwoj Signature 1.pngUser Gabrielwoj Signature 2.png - User Gabrielwoj Signature 3.png 03:19, 18 February 2023 (UTC)
Actually, never mind. For some reason I thought you also laughed with who you just punched that is also wearing the mittens (it commonly happens when both Heavies hold their left clicks after being tickled). But, the Spy wearing the Holiday Punch may be the best scenario here, so it shows that the disguise is not lost (although make sure to show also without the mittens active, and, when the mittens is active for Spy, punch him from the back, then punch him from the front). Headphones style when? - User Gabrielwoj Signature 1.pngUser Gabrielwoj Signature 2.png - User Gabrielwoj Signature 3.png 13:08, 18 February 2023 (UTC)

Original Original

Pictogram wait.png This demonstration has been reserved: MudkipOnYT (talk) 18:23, 5 April 2024 (UTC)

Old Reservation (5th January 2024)

Pictogram comment.png Missing new reload sound I'd say this is an incredibly low priority one, may not even be worth redoing.
GrampaSwood (talk) 11:23, 17 January 2023 (UTC)

I hope I've done this correctly, I am just beginning to get to work setting up to film my demonstration — MudkipOnYT (talk) 18:23, 5 April 2024 (UTC)

Here is the link to my finished demonstration, I noticed other users who uploaded to Google Drive being told by the Moderators that their videos were in 30FPS. This one is at 60FPS, it just doesn't play at 60FPS in the Google Drive embedded player, it must be downloaded. Awaiting feedback! — MudkipOnYT (talk) 12:10, 6 April 2024 (UTC)

In the firing angle demonstrations, wait for about 3 seconds before commencing the firing. The rightwards angle demonstration is a bit too quick. Same with the frontal angle demonstration. Also, for the rocket jumping demonstration, don't wiggle around the screen so much during those idle phases; 1:29-1:31 are quite noticeably obvious. Qwertyxp2000 (talk) 22:03, 22 April 2024 (UTC)

Yeah I notice all of that now, can just go and re-record it at some point, I also interrupted the reload animation at the beginning. - MudkipOnYT (talk) 10:05, 23 April 2024 (UTC)

Power Up Canteen Power Up Canteen

Pictogram comment.png Doesn't show Canteen Specialist upgrades like Battery Canteens demo does

I feel like I can do a demonstration for this one. But my canteen is a crafted version so it has my username on it. Is that acceptable ? Kaezle (talk) 04:21, 25 August 2019 (UTC)

If you right click on it you should be able to remove that. Naleksuh (talk) 06:22, 25 August 2019 (UTC)
I think the stock version (Normal quality) should be used over the Unique one, considering all players have it. User Gabrielwoj Signature Icon.png - User Gabrielwoj Signature 1.pngUser Gabrielwoj Signature 2.png - User Gabrielwoj Signature 3.png 04:23, 14 August 2021 (UTC)

Sandvich Sandvich

Pictogram comment.png Show that a dropped plate doesn't heal

Hinaomi recommended this, so might as well try it. I would be up to make it if it's a valid reason GrampaSwood (talk) 12:02, 13 September 2019 (UTC)

Not sure I follow. You mean that picking up a dropped plate restocks the sandvich? That's already demonstrated... — Wind 00:38, 16 September 2019 (UTC)
Show that picking up a sandvich that's dropped via mouse2 doesn't heal.
GrampaSwood (talk) 05:30, 16 September 2019 (UTC)
Oh OK, yeah. Might replace the existing pickup from full health then, so that it doesn't make the clip longer. — Wind 04:28, 23 September 2019 (UTC)
Sure. Yes, please replace the existing pickup. — Wind 04:11, 24 April 2020 (UTC)
Just talked on the IRC channel today (log) and GrampaSwood willingly relinquished the reservation for me. I am gonna focus on my reservations first, though. — Exaskliri (they/them) (talk | contribs) 15:54, 18 April 2022 (UTC)

Self-Aware Beauty Mark Self-Aware Beauty Mark

Pictogram wait.png This demonstration has been reserved: KingK (talk) 04:16, 6 January 2024 (UTC)

Pictogram comment.png Updated description. (Also handy for putting out a fire)

Pictogram comment.png Extinguish an ally reduces the cooldown by 20%

A funny bug but i think i better waiting for Valve to fix it. - Thedop 10:35, 12 October 2018 (UTC+1)

Hey there, I decided I'd help out on this Hopefully around Jan 8-9 would be where I have everything for this demonstration. KingK (talk) 04:16, 6 January 2024 (UTC)

Alright I got it all right here.

Video - KingK (talk) 03:51, 10 January 2024 (UTC)

Seems like your graphics settings aren't on the max, the windows on tr_karma also seem to be bugged. For the first clip, your kill sound should be turned off. For the second clip, make sure to switch all the bots back to the Shotgun. For the third clip, the clip is quite laggy and the sound suddenly increases halfway through. Fourth clip looks fine, albeit with some quality issues as mentioned before. For the first Spy clip, make sure to wait until he's fully invisible to throw the Jarate on him. Splitting up the cloaked and disguised Spy clip like this is better imo, rather than having it be one clip like the original. In the clip where you extinguish 3 teammates, it's fine to just use a single Heavy for that rather than 3 teammates. Maybe 3 clips at the same time would also be suitable for this: one to show off no extinguish, one to show off 1 extinguish, and one to show off extinguishing 2 teammates. It would show that 1 ally extinguished and 2 allies extinguished equally reduces the cooldown.
Other than that, remember to stand still between each clip. It seems like this was most notable on the clip with you and the Heavy being extinguished. The minimum acceptable video quality would be 1080p 60fps, perhaps recording only at that resolution rather than 4k will help with running the game a bit smoother, as currently some clips are very laggy even on 1080p.
BLU Wiki Cap.png | s | GrampaSwood Praise the Sun! (talk) (contribs) 11:48, 10 January 2024 (UTC)


Aight will get working on it, Thanks Grampa Swood KingK (talk) 11:52, 10 January 2024 (UTC)
Here's the newly updated video
Video
KingK (talk) 15:54, 12 January 2024 (UTC)
The video still looks laggy. It was not recorded at 60 fps. Also your antialiasing settings are still low. Use 4x or 8x.
The video still has some problems. General: You wait too much between clips. When using half/third width clips don't disabled the HUD. I know that sometimes the elements look out of place but that can be fixed by editing the hud. First clip: The jar being misplaced is not your fault, but I think I can send a fix here. Second clip: The demoman should hit his 2 pipes instead of trying to kill the medic with rollers. 4th clip: I think you recorded the clips with normal width. Use half-width. 5th clip: The spy clips are now similar to the mad milk video. That's good, however, don't separate the spy clips. Record the clip in one shot. 6th clip: wait a bit before extinguishing yourself and the heavy. 7th clip: again, don't hide the hud. Final clip: It still shows the match hud bar. You can fix this by reloading the hud using hud_reloadscheme. · Ashe (talk) 22:30, 24 January 2024 (UTC)


Chargin' Targe Chargin' Targe, Tide Turner Tide Turner, and Splendid Screen Splendid Screen

Should these be redone to show that they remove debuffs such as Jarate, bleeding, afterburn, etc.? If so, which effects should I specifically show?
GrampaSwood (talk) 08:31, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

Pictogram tick.png Yes, the effects that should show are just some of them, not all
  • Soaking, Jarate is preferable as it make the screen yellow tint.
  • Fire, simple burn from Flamethrower.
  • Bleeding, from Southern Hospitality?
  • Mark for death, from Fan O'War
I think those are all. User Hinaomi Hinaomi-sig.png Rikka Takanashi (talk) • (contributions) 12:47, 25 June 2020 (UTC)
Yes, that would all be good. — Wind 05:44, 8 July 2020 (UTC)

Quick-Fix Quick-Fix

Old reservation (29 April 2021)

Pictogram comment.png What I've done in addition to the existing one (the timestamp in the parentheses are the old/new ones):

  1. (1:14/1:24) On the first scene demonstrating the Quick-Fix's basic functions, I did the same as the old one, plus damaging myself and the patient Heavy while being Ubered, demonstrating that the Quick-Fix's Uber doesn't reduce incoming damage. I also damaged myself (the Medic) twice instead of once.
  2. (2:09/2:39) When demonstrating the Quick-Fix's heal rate in comparison to the stock Medi Gun, while mostly the same, I used a recently-injured Heavy, so that the heal rate (for each medigun) is at the slowest. I used an offscreen pistol Engineer (hence why the starting HP is 14), teleport commands, and r_cleardecals, so it should look neat.
  3. (2:17/3:01) I demonstrated the knockback immunity from Quick-Fix's Uber the same way, but now there's health and Ubercharge HUD.
  4. (2:56/3:47) I did the "mirror blast jumping" part outdoors, although it might not look neat. I'm sorry.
  5. (3:26/4:17) I demonstrated crit healing (after the recipient doesn't take damage for 10-15 seconds) with the Quick-Fix's Uber in addition to the non-Uber Quick-Fix. Yes, the 3x healing rate Uber stacks with the crit heal.
  6. (3:53/6:56) I redid the "Uber build rate comparison on different HP threshold" because the old one didn't have the Quick-Fix as the second healing beam, hence it doesn't explain if the second healing beam alone would slow down the Quick-Fix's Uber build rate (the Quick-Fix has 125% maximum overheal, lower than the usual Uber build rate penalty at 142.5% overheal).
  7. (4:26/5:06) I demonstrated the Quick-Fix maximum overheal limit and decay rate on Scout vs. Heavy as well as comparing it to the stock Medi Gun's overheal in addition to the "maintain overheal above 125%" that the old video demonstrated. For the last part, I only used one Heavy, as the aforementioned added demonstrations make up for that, and I maintained the overheal above and below 142.5% overheal (Uber build rate comparison) as well as healing the Heavy when the overheal goes down below 125%.
  8. (4:46/8:32) For the "healing disguised Spy" part, I have two enemy bots (Heavy and Demoman) so that the Spy doesn't disguise as a Demoman named "Medic". Both bots are injured, so my disguise will be healed, too.

Pictogram comment.png The new ones (the timestamps refer to the new demonstration):

  1. (7:39) Demonstrating stock Medi Gun's Uber vs. Quick-Fix's Uber (the latter doesn't reduce incoming damage, but prevents incoming knockback unlike the former) and the fact that they have same duration (barring the stock's lingering effect). Also has Quick-Fix's Uber without incoming rockets to demonstrate that the duration is the same.
  2. (7:58) Ubering multiple teammates at the same time drain faster than Ubering a single teammate alone. Also, only the aforementioned Ubering multiple teammates drains Uber faster; Ubering an injured teammate drains at the same rate as Ubering a healthy teammate (fully overhealed) and not healing someone when Ubered.


I did the "Uber draining when dropped" part, but both mediguns show "Dropped by Exaskliri." Is it allowed? I gave the bot the Quick-Fix via bot_mirror command. https://youtu.be/0ZlwvHZrjdU Exaskliri (talk) 04:27, 30 April 2021 (UTC)
Nothing you can do about that, that's just how it shows. Shouldn't be too noticeable and there's no point in going through the trouble of setting up a server and getting a buddy to join only so it doesn't show. Though the confusion on where the quick-fix actually is should be redone so it doesn't look like you are looking for it.
GrampaSwood (talk) 10:37, 30 April 2021 (UTC)
  1. I just did the "mirroring the explosive jump" part, though I don't think it looks neat. Is it OK? https://youtu.be/NQo1iTxQSEA Exaskliri (talk) 03:31, 3 May 2021 (UTC)
  2. Just finished the whole demonstration. I just need to attach the segments. Exaskliri (talk) 15:15, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
  3. Just finished uploading re-uploading the new Quick-Fix demonstration video to YouTube and MediaFire.
  1. https://youtu.be/hj5FuFVFV2U
  2. https://www.mediafire.com/file/kx7kbaik5vwpwyj/Quick-Fix_Weapon_Demonstration_Video.mp4/file
Exaskliri (talk) 08:08, 6 May 2021 (UTC)
I don't see any problems, except for the the explosive jumps scenes, that looks a bit laggy, and in general the quality, that seems to be more like a rendering issue, though shouldn't be a problem · Ashe (talk) 04:40, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
I'm fixing the video right now (quieting projector sound, incorrect fade out time, etc.). Gotta reupload soon. Exaskliri (talk) 10:39, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
Just uploaded the fixed version of the Quick-Fix demonstration video. Exaskliri (talk) 13:01, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
This is spectacular work, thanks a lot! Just two comments, none of which should require a lot of work to fix hopefully:
  • Video quality also seems to have the same artifacts as the Winger demonstration. Please increase the bitrate. Unlike the Winger demonstration, I understand that a demonstration this long could take forever and use a lot of bandwidth to upload twice (to YouTube and to MediaFire), so if the video quality is approved for the Winger demonstration is good enough and you've used the same settings for re-rendering this demonstration, feel free to just upload the higher-quality Quick Fix demonstration to MediaFire only, in order to avoid having to upload the huge file twice.
  • There is an audio/video glitch at 9:56 - 9:57.

Wind 05:46, 10 May 2021 (UTC)

You finally responded! Thank you so much. The video/audio glitch is from the .dem recording, so I had to conduct another play, especially since it involves another player. Exaskliri (talk) 15:12, 10 May 2021 (UTC)
Alright. Can you upload the new version? — Wind 04:40, 1 June 2021 (UTC)

Blutsauger Blutsauger

Update on this. Video seems to require multiple people. Wasn't able to find anyone else to help me. If you want to help me record this please ping me. Naleksuh (talk) 19:53, 21 December 2021 (UTC)

Eyelander Eyelander, Nessie's Nine Iron Nessie's Nine Iron, Horseless Headless Horsemann's Headtaker Horseless Headless Horsemann's Headtaker, and Half-Zatoichi Half-Zatoichi

Pictogram comment.png Show slower deploy and holster comparision.

The other swords shows the comparision except for the above ones. ThunderRunner (talk) 08:54, 18 December 2021 (UTC)

Pictogram wait.png This demonstration has been reserved: ----User Slimyboi500 Logo.png User Slimyboi500 Profile.jpg Talk Speech voice.png Contribs Wrench IMG.png Steam Steam tray.png 04:32, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

I think I am capable of doing demonstrations again. As someone on the wiki that doesn't get credited for shit, I think these might upper my reputation.
----User Slimyboi500 Logo.png User Slimyboi500 Profile.jpg Talk Speech voice.png Contribs Wrench IMG.png Steam Steam tray.png 04:32, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

What edits/contributions have you made that you did not get credited for?
BLU Wiki Cap.png | s | GrampaSwood Praise the Sun! (talk) (contribs) 05:13, 19 April 2024 (UTC)
Oh, I dunno, this, this, and especially these.
----User Slimyboi500 Logo.png User Slimyboi500 Profile.jpg Talk Speech voice.png Contribs Wrench IMG.png Steam Steam tray.png 15:57, 19 April 2024 (UTC)
On all of these edits you are credited just fine. How did you expect to be credited?
BLU Wiki Cap.png | s | GrampaSwood Praise the Sun! (talk) (contribs) 16:00, 19 April 2024 (UTC)
Wikicheivments? I never got another one since November. Mediarch is getting all the fame and glory. I just don't wanna think I'm the odd one out.
----User Slimyboi500 Logo.png User Slimyboi500 Profile.jpg Talk Speech voice.png Contribs Wrench IMG.png Steam Steam tray.png 16:15, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

Kritzkrieg Kritzkrieg

Pictogram comment.png Does not show that Kritz Über does not prevent capping or carrying the Intelligence.

Pictogram comment.png Does not show health of patients, overheal is not shown properly.

I think I'll take this one! Greenfox (talk) 20:51, 22 October 2022 (UTC)

Please sign your comments using ~~~~.
GrampaSwood (talk) 20:56, 22 October 2022 (UTC)

sorry! Greenfox (talk) 06:27, 23 October 2022 (UTC)

Trading demonstration

Pictogram comment.png Doesn't show the "Requires Steam Guard verification" window

We can make the same Medic and Heavy conversation joke.

Alright, it seems that Steam won't allow me to change the Trading window language for some reason, so i'm leaving this to a English-speaker user · Ashe (talk) 04:55, 27 February 2022 (UTC)
I don't think we should redo this just for this reason; there may be more UI changes to that process in the future, and it seems unnecessary. — Wind 00:33, 24 April 2022 (UTC)

Ullapool Caber Ullapool Caber

Pictogram wait.png This demonstration has been reserved: CheddarTalk 11:04, 20 April 2024 (UTC)

  • Pictogram comment.png Does not demonstrate activation on cloaked enemy Spies
  • Pictogram comment.png Does not demonstrate activation on disguised enemy Spies

This video does not need a desperate rework, but it is worth adding some extra stuff here and there. Specifically the cloak and disguise interactions.

Part 1: The Main Gang (Pyro, Soldier, Medic)

  1. Attack the Pyro with a full caber. Watch the explosion and Demoman saying "Kablooey!" or similar.
  2. After landing, kill the Pyro with the now empty caber.
  3. Kill the Soldier with consecutive hits of the empty caber.
  4. Kill the Medic with consecutive hits of the empty caber.
  5. Taunt

Part 2: Blast Radius Tests + Caber Jumping

Do the same as current video's Part 2 except friendly Scout is removed. And some more added too.

  1. Approach between an enemy Engineer and an enemy Sniper. [Note: Friendly Scout is moved to the next Act]
  2. Look at both of them while standing still.
  3. Look down at the ground and then swing the caber.
  4. Crouch, look down, and then swing the caber. Watch the explosion affect the enemy players.
  5. Look at the enemy players again.
  6. Run to the Resupply room, look at the sign, and enter the room.
  7. Touch the Resupply cabinet.
  8. Repeat Step 4.
  9. Run to the Resupply room and immediately go to the Resupply cabinet and out.
  10. Approach a high location (in the current video, it is a bunch of crates)
  11. Jump and strike the wall of the high location to get to the top of it.

Part 3: Player Interactions

First part is a single enemy Spy.

Part 3a: Cloaked Spy

  1. Let the Spy cloak
  2. Approach cloaked Spy and attack with the full caber. If the facts are right, an explosion should trigger.
  3. Refresh the screen to the next scene...

There are two players on the side, a friendly Scout and an enemy Spy.

Part 3b: Disguised Spy

  1. Let the Spy disguise as a friendly Scout.
  2. Approach friendly Scout and attack with the full caber. Nothing should happen.
  3. Now go to the disguised Spy and repeat Step 3. The difference is that the explosion should trigger.

Part 4: Deployment and Holstering

  • Do the same set of actions as the current video, or in any appropriate method.

Qwertyxp2000 (talk) 02:23, 22 June 2022 (UTC) Qwertyxp2000 (talk) 02:31, 22 June 2022 (UTC)

Good list, but agree that this isn't worth redoing if it's only for those extra interactions. — Wind 21:39, 31 July 2022 (UTC)
Here is the video, feedback needed!
CheddarTalk 11:03, 4 May 2024 (UTC)

RED Teleporter.png Teleporters

Pictogram comment.png Needs to show the updated metal cost.

Cleaner's Carbine Cleaner's Carbine

Pictogram wait.png This demonstration has been reserved: CheddarTalk 13:59, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

Pictogram comment.png Needs a firing speed comparison to stock, does not show CRIKEY! gain from damaging buildings and disguised Spies.
I may need a bit of time to obtain a Cleaner's Carbine for this video. This will be solved once Scrap.TF is working again. Scorchshotgaming (talk) 06:45, 19 April 2024 (UTC)
Here's the video, feedback needed!
CheddarTalk 17:51, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
What about the disguised spies? or did I miss it somewhere in the video? Mediarch User Mediarch PFP.pngTalkMy Edits 18:11, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
I forgot
CheddarTalk 18:12, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
Here is a newer version!
CheddarTalk 19:11, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

Maul Maul, Homewrecker Homewrecker

Pictogram comment.png Does not show damage against players vs stock

Pictogram wait.png This demonstration has been reserved: Mediarch User Mediarch PFP.pngTalkMy Edits 17:41, 26 March 2024 (UTC)

Here's the Maul Mediarch User Mediarch PFP.pngTalkMy Edits 00:19, 27 March 2024 (UTC)

Here's Maul v2 Mediarch User Mediarch PFP.pngTalkMy Edits 20:20, 8 April 2024 (UTC)

Here's the Homewrecker Mediarch User Mediarch PFP.pngTalkMy Edits 00:19, 27 March 2024 (UTC)

It seems like the combattext batching was still on, as the damage numbers get added up. You don't have to be named "Friendly Engineer" for the Dispenser clip, it can just be your own name.
In the Homewrecker one specifically: Try not to rotate around a target too much when hitting them (this is mostly when hitting the Pyro at the start, where all 3 subsequent hits are from a different angle). Both look good otherwise.
BLU Wiki Cap.png | s | GrampaSwood Praise the Sun! (talk) (contribs) 20:40, 7 April 2024 (UTC)
Here's Homewrecka v2 Mediarch User Mediarch PFP.pngTalkMy Edits 20:20, 8 April 2024 (UTC)

Amputator Amputator

Pictogram comment.png Does not show damage against players vs stock

I recorded most of this but medic's health regen is completely random as far I can tell. I can't get the clips to line up so I can properly demonstrate the increased health regen so I'm removing my reservation for the time being. I might try again some other time to brute force it but it doesn't seem promising Mediarch User Mediarch PFP.pngTalkMy Edits 18:34, 28 March 2024 (UTC)

Not having them be synced up is fine as long as it's clear that the Amputator goes faster.
BLU Wiki Cap.png | s | GrampaSwood Praise the Sun! (talk) (contribs) 18:55, 28 March 2024 (UTC)
That's not the issue I'm having. It's the part where you're showing that it only regenerates faster while you are actively holding the amputator itself. The original video has a 3-way splitscreen with the left side being Amputator, the middle having the Amputator equipped but switched to hold the medi gun, and the right holding the stock bonesaw. I can't the medi gun side and bonesaw side to sync up so it looks like one of them is slightly faster than the other. One of the two is always slightly faster or slower which makes it really difficult to properly demonstrate that part. Even the actual health you gain each tick is slightly variable from what I can tell. I had 6 different clips and synched them all up and they all finished at different times and would have different health values despite all other variables being equal. All 6 clips started at the same time but all 6 of them have different HP https://imgur.com/3NVTjSG. My only thought for a fix is I could try to cheat and essentially just crop the health bar from one of the clips and paste it onto the other so that way they are perfectly synced up. It'd have to be a seamless edit though which is pretty hard to do. Mediarch User Mediarch PFP.pngTalkMy Edits 19:15, 28 March 2024 (UTC)

Direct Hit Direct Hit

Pictogram comment.png Does not show splash damage size compared to stock. No damage comparison to stock. You can airshot a soldier that rocket jumps.

Pomson 6000 Pomson 6000

Pictogram comment.png October 21, 2016 Patch - Fixed the Pomson 6000 playing the Shotgun reload sound.

Thermal Thruster Thermal Thruster

Pictogram comment.png Video doesn't show the increased knockback while using the item This video was created when the rule was just "at least 30 fps". Now, the knockback clips are a bit random and doesn't properly show the actual effect. Maybe the demonstrator can show it by placing a pyro aiming upwards and make it airblast them. The clips would be in badwater roof, the left clip without the thermal just falling off from it and the right clip, jumping with the thermal onto the pyro. · Ashe (talk) 17:18, 28 March 2024 (UTC)

Team Fortress Classic

TFC Crowbar.PNG Crowbar (Classic)

Pictogram comment.png Haven't been able to find a proper bot program. Will need another players in order to successfully demonstrate

Questions and Proposals

Note: This section is for questions and proposals that aren't specific to a single weapon. If you think a demo ought to be remade, then make an entry for it in the Need to be Redone section above and it will be dealt with.

Item icon Voodoo-Cursed Heavy Soul.png Zombie Infection Zombies

Pictogram comment.png Zombies have different abillities than normal players.

Hello, I am Slimyboi500. I will be doing the demostrations for each zombie in Zombie Infection.

Why, you may ask? Unlike normal gamemodes, the BLU team (or in this case, the zombies), have different abillities than normal:

They also have different effects, like different amounts of health and speed. The zombies only can use melee attacks however, which makes it harder to kill.

Let me know if it's a good idea or not.


Slimyboi500 (talk) User Slimyboi500 Profile.jpg 17:35, 27 October 2023 (UTC)

If we're doing this, I think there should be a demonstration made for each gamemode, rather than just Zombie Infection. Although ZI has gotten an introduction video now that shows off the mode pretty well, so I don't believe it is necessary.
BLU Wiki Cap.png | s | GrampaSwood Praise the Sun! (talk) (contribs) 17:53, 27 October 2023 (UTC)
The introduction is missing a few key details, such as not showing the Soldier or Heavy's abilities. I feel like it would be a good idea. Such as like there should be a demo for VSH.
----Slimyboi500 (talk) User Slimyboi500 Profile.jpg 18:12, 27 October 2023 (UTC)
It doesn't show each ability, but it does overall show the gamemode very well and I think does a sufficient job. Although, again, if we are making demonstrations for this, I think one should be made for each gamemode.
BLU Wiki Cap.png | s | GrampaSwood Praise the Sun! (talk) (contribs) 18:18, 27 October 2023 (UTC)
Yes, I think there should be one for each gamemode.
----Slimyboi500 (talk) User Slimyboi500 Profile.jpg 19:41, 27 October 2023 (UTC)
Remember to also indent your signature and to keep your answers above the hidden comment.
BLU Wiki Cap.png | s | GrampaSwood Praise the Sun! (talk) (contribs) 19:51, 27 October 2023 (UTC)
Still, is that a yes on the idea?
----Slimyboi500 (talk) User Slimyboi500 Profile.jpg 20:28, 27 October 2023 (UTC)

──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── I'm voting no, but other people might be in favour of it. Profiteer was, for example, so I'm waiting for more input.
BLU Wiki Cap.png | s | GrampaSwood Praise the Sun! (talk) (contribs) 20:35, 27 October 2023 (UTC)

I vote yes for the Zombie Infection zombies (as well Saxton Hale on VSH), but not for other gamemodes. I consider these zombies kinda like "new weapons". They all have different abilities, passives, first-person views, etc. I'm not quite sure if there needs to be a demonstration regarding the human part (only if demonstrated humans being infected by zombies upon dying), and perhaps the only thing related to humans would be that zombies drop small healthkits (because it's related to them, the zombies). A showcase of each zombie class, its ability, and some human interactions like being infected by them, and, killing them as humans, would probably be a nifty video package. Headphones style when? - User Gabrielwoj Signature 1.pngUser Gabrielwoj Signature 2.png - User Gabrielwoj Signature 3.png 22:34, 27 October 2023 (UTC)
I'm all in for ZI and VSH demos, but a significant issue would be future balance patches to the modes. Each balance patch so far has significantly changed the zombies, and if we had already made the demo, we would have to redo the video for each one of these updates, which would result in multiple uploads of the same video over and over again and a lot of work (and given how we can barely keep up with the current demos in the backlog...). Maybe instead of a gamemode demonstration, we could simply do a "zombie class demonstration" ("Zombie Sniper", etc.) and a "mechanics demonstration" (weapon modifications, gamemode-specific elements). This way, if a zombie is changed, we wouldn't have to redo the entire video. — Tark 22:51, 27 October 2023 (UTC)
I will do the demo as soon as I get enough votes for it
----Slimyboi500 (talk) User Slimyboi500 Profile.jpg 18:42, 15 November 2023 (UTC)
Voting yes for the demo, ZI and VSH seems stable...for now at leastProfiteer(奸商)the tryhard (talk) 11:05, 21 November 2023 (UTC)

Flippin' Awesome and Skullcracker in VSH

When Saxton Hale used Flippin' Awesome or Skullcracker, the other mercenary participating the taunt will be taunt killed, is this something worth remaking the taunt demonstration? Or we just keep the current taunt demonstration, but add this feature into the VSH demonstration? --AlexT 18:31, 22 July 2023 (UTC)

I think a VSH demonstration would be better, as it may be confusing why Saxton Hale is suddenly there when he's not normally playable.
BLU Wiki Cap.png | s | GrampaSwood (talk) 19:52, 22 July 2023 (UTC)
Yes, a demonstration regarding VSH, showing all Hale's abilities, and some unique taunt interactions, would be the most ideal (including his default taunt kill). That one would probably be more lengthy, and some things would probably require to be discussed beforehand. Like Mercs being able to wall climb (which is applied to even stock weaponry), should that be shown too? Headphones style when? - User Gabrielwoj Signature 1.pngUser Gabrielwoj Signature 2.png - User Gabrielwoj Signature 3.png 20:31, 22 July 2023 (UTC)
I think maybe a demonstration for every game mode could be in order, as a sort of semi-tutorial created by us. A VSH one would fit that too.
BLU Wiki Cap.png | s | GrampaSwood (talk) 08:33, 23 July 2023 (UTC)

Configs for partner taunt demonstrations

I've created some configs for partner taunt demonstrations. It automatically spawns 2 bots, places you in the starting position, and has another small command ("teleport") to input after it to teleport both the bots to the right position. It binds H and J to the bots performing taunts, H = BLU bot does taunt, J = RED bot does taunt. They're all class-specific and automatically kick any other bots there. There's no way (right now) that I know of to update the weaponref.zip, so if anyone needs it I can forward you a zip of the files. Just let me know on my talk page (or if you know of a way to update weaponref).
BLU Wiki Cap.png | s | GrampaSwood Praise the Sun! (talk) (contribs) 23:56, 13 November 2023 (UTC)

New tr_karma and requirements

I've been working in the past week in fixing some issues tr_karma has and some new guidelines. The changes to tr_karma are:

  • Increased lightmap quality in the interiors
  • Fixed a "checkerboard" texture in the gas cylinder, the ceiling fan and the cardboard boxes
  • Added chat scripts to enable noclip (!n in the chat), regenerate (!r), spawn an ammo pack (!am) and enable demonstration server settings (!demo) (these commands are available also in the new tr_karma_basic.cfg)
  • Fixed the func_buttons in the wood targets only working once, thus displaying the hit particle once
  • Removed Tough Break cases and the Gargoyle prop as they didn't fit the ambience
  • Removed the mining cart prop in the rails due of a lighting issue
  • Repacked the map, reducing the map size from ~91 MB to ~18 MB

The link to the download and new proposed guidelines are here. Check them out and give feedback · Ashe (talk) 16:38, 13 December 2023 (UTC)

Issues with tr_krama and tr_krama_event

When I start a local server and load tr_krama/tr_krama_event, it won't load (probably because it doesn't exsit) lights/shadow making the map super bright, this only happens on 2 krama maps, I tried to download a modified version of tr_krama on workshop and it worked perfectly, pretty sure something is missing in the map file from weaponref.zip.Profiteer the tryhard (talk|contribute) 05:59, 10 March 2024 (UTC)

It works fine on my end.
BLU Wiki Cap.png | s | GrampaSwood Praise the Sun! (talk) (contribs) 10:11, 10 March 2024 (UTC)
Join the IRC to help you @Profiteer · Ashe (talk) 21:33, 16 March 2024 (UTC)
@Profiteer do you have HDR enabled? · Ashe (talk) 16:50, 23 March 2024 (UTC)

Question about 2D and 3D player models

A question I've had for a while about weapon demonstrations is, is there a specific reason that 2D player images in the HUD are standard rather than the 3D player model (be it for performance, consistency, or any other reason), also considering that 3D player models are enabled by default? The 3D model could also generally be more useful for certain cosmetics or demonstrations. Scorchshotgaming (talk) 16:47, 8 April 2024 (UTC)

they're buggy, eat up frame rate on a lot of systems, and aren't really necessary. I don't think they really add anything of value to the videos so my vote would be to keep them disabled. Mediarch User Mediarch PFP.pngTalkMy Edits 16:50, 8 April 2024 (UTC)
As far as I know, there's no real reason that we prefer one over the other. 3D models are enabled by default, but it may have just been something that was done for a while and became the standard.
BLU Wiki Cap.png | s | GrampaSwood Praise the Sun! (talk) (contribs) 16:57, 8 April 2024 (UTC)
Fair point, it would obviously be a massive hassle to redo every demonstration with a 2D player model. Also for some people I suppose keeping them off improves framerate. Scorchshotgaming (talk) 19:59, 8 April 2024 (UTC)
I'm pretty sure it's because when they were added to the game, it caused lag to a lot of people. The recent 64 bits update fixed the 3d character using a lot of cpu and now it shouldn't affect fps (although i guess modern pcs didn't have issue with it anyways) · Ashe (talk) 15:21, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

Mastercomfig question

I am planning to make a demonstration, and the recommended requirements state that Mastercomfig High/Ultra is preferrable. However, I highly doubt my PC is able to run Mastercomfig High/Ultra properly and all the other high graphics settings. Is it acceptable if I use Mastercomfig Medium High and use average graphics settings? May look slightly lower quality than a typical reservation, but I don't think much will be affected. Scorchshotgaming (talk) 21:44, 18 April 2024 (UTC)

Ultra is preferable, but setting your game to all max settings should suffice.
BLU Wiki Cap.png | s | GrampaSwood Praise the Sun! (talk) (contribs) 21:45, 18 April 2024 (UTC)
Well, I'll look through some configurations, and if I find one that looks high enough quality without sacrificing my computer's performance I will use it (my PC is not too high spec, to say the least). My demonstration is for the Cleaner's Carbine; once you review it tell me your thoughts. For me this is especially important because I will need to screen record this too. Scorchshotgaming (talk) 21:48, 18 April 2024 (UTC)