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[[File:Stun.PNG|175px|right|A Pyro stunned by the Sandman]]
 
[[File:Stun.PNG|175px|right|A Pyro stunned by the Sandman]]
 
{{Quotation|'''The Scout'''|Nice catch, knucklehead!|sound=Scout_stunballhit08.wav}}
 
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Being '''stunned''' is the state of being incapacitated. While stunned, players are forced into the third-person [[humiliation]] stance and rendered unable to attack, with the exception of [[taunt kills]]. Stunned players also suffer from a 50% movement speed penalty, and cannot jump or crouch. Players can also be "fully" stunned, which renders the player completely immobile.
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Being '''stunned''' is the state of being incapacitated. While stunned, players are forced into the third-person [[humiliation]] stance and rendered unable to attack, with the exception of [[taunt kills]]. Stunned players also suffer from a 50% movement speed penalty. Players can also be "fully" stunned, which renders the player completely immobile.
  
 
== Sources ==
 
== Sources ==
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=== Sandman ===
 
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[[File:Stunned.png|right]]
 
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{{main|Sandman}}
 
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With the [[Sandman]] equipped, the [[Scout]] gains the ability to stun opponents with his trusty baseball. By pressing alternate fire with a baseball in hand, the Scout will bat it forward in an arc. If it connects with an opponent who is more than 256 Hammer units away (approximately 16 feet), they will become stunned. From extremely long range (approximately 112 feet or 1792 Hammer units), they will be [[Knock back|knocked back]] a short distance and the letters 'BONK' will float above their head, accompanied by [[Media:Pl_impact_stun_range.wav|this sound]]. This is coupled with a 'seeing stars' effect as they remain completely immobile for 7 seconds. Heavies spinning their miniguns will continue to spin when stunned (whether primary or alternate fire is pressed). The ability to stun opponents has lead to the controversial nature of using the Sandman, especially in competitive scenes.
 
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Getting hit by a ball will damage the player for approximately 15 points, or 45 on a [[Critical hit]].
 
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The Scout can perform the stun ability once every fifteen seconds unless he manually retrieves the baseball just used, picks up the baseball of another Scout, or visits a [[resupply]] cabinet. New baseballs cannot be retrieved from ammo packs or dropped weapons.
 
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The baseballs of enemy Scouts can be struck back at them and upon a successful return will stun them. Doing this results in the ''Beanball'' achievement. [[Pyro]]s can [[compression blast]] a baseball and stun opponents if it hits.
 
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{{anchor|Alternative stun sources}}
 
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=== Other ===
 
 
The initial stab of the [[Sniper]]'s [[Skewer]], the [[Medic]]'s [[Spinal Tap]], and the [[Engineer]]'s [[Organ Grinder]] will fully stun a player if it connects. These attacks can stun an [[ÜberCharge]]d opponent. ÜberCharged enemies are often distracted or keeping their aim at a Sentry Gun, long enough to stab them with the taunt. Even without damage, it will waste precious seconds of ÜberCharge.
 
The initial stab of the [[Sniper]]'s [[Skewer]], the [[Medic]]'s [[Spinal Tap]], and the [[Engineer]]'s [[Organ Grinder]] will fully stun a player if it connects. These attacks can stun an [[ÜberCharge]]d opponent. ÜberCharged enemies are often distracted or keeping their aim at a Sentry Gun, long enough to stab them with the taunt. Even without damage, it will waste precious seconds of ÜberCharge.
  
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In [[Mann vs. Machine (game mode)|Mann vs. Machine]], [[Sappers]] can be placed on [[robots]] to disable them. But unlike the 'scared' effect, this is an ordinary full stun, and can even trigger Sandman voice lines if the [[Spy]] placing the Sapper is disguised as a Scout. Giant robots are immune to being stunned, but will still receive [[slowdown]] from Sappers and the Sandman, and crits from the Flying Guillotine, for the duration of the effect. Additionally, all regular-sized robots on the map [[Mannhattan]] will automatically be stunned for approximately 20 seconds whenever a point is captured.
 
In [[Mann vs. Machine (game mode)|Mann vs. Machine]], [[Sappers]] can be placed on [[robots]] to disable them. But unlike the 'scared' effect, this is an ordinary full stun, and can even trigger Sandman voice lines if the [[Spy]] placing the Sapper is disguised as a Scout. Giant robots are immune to being stunned, but will still receive [[slowdown]] from Sappers and the Sandman, and crits from the Flying Guillotine, for the duration of the effect. Additionally, all regular-sized robots on the map [[Mannhattan]] will automatically be stunned for approximately 20 seconds whenever a point is captured.
  
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The [[Natascha]], the [[Force-A-Nature]], and the [[Pyro]]'s [[Compression blast]] are also able to stun players for a short time, granting the [[Flying Guillotine]] guaranteed crits during that time. These stuns do not disable the use of weapons on stunned opponents, unlike other forms of stunning. Subsequent compression blasts do not grant further stun on the target as of the [[Tough Break Update]].
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The [[Natascha]] and the [[Force-A-Nature]] are also able to stun players for a short time. These stuns do not disable the use of weapons on stunned opponents, unlike other forms of stunning.
  
 
== Measurements ==
 
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'''{{Patch name|12|17|2015}}''' ([[Tough Break Update]])
 
'''{{Patch name|12|17|2015}}''' ([[Tough Break Update]])
 
* Consecutive Airblasts will no longer prevent enemies from air-strafing until they touch the ground.
 
* Consecutive Airblasts will no longer prevent enemies from air-strafing until they touch the ground.
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'''{{Patch name|10|20|2017}}''' ([[Jungle Inferno Update]])
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* Changed attribute on the Sandman:
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** Long-range ball impacts no longer remove the victim's ability to fire their weapon (but the victim is still slowed).
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* Changed on the Airblast:
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** Airblast now causes target player to have reduced footing and air control for a short period.
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*** No longer a flat stun.
  
 
== Bugs ==
 
== Bugs ==

Revision as of 22:45, 25 October 2017

A Pyro stunned by the Sandman
“
Nice catch, knucklehead!
Click to listen
— The Scout
 ”

Being stunned is the state of being incapacitated. While stunned, players are forced into the third-person humiliation stance and rendered unable to attack, with the exception of taunt kills. Stunned players also suffer from a 50% movement speed penalty. Players can also be "fully" stunned, which renders the player completely immobile.

Sources

The initial stab of the Sniper's Skewer, the Medic's Spinal Tap, and the Engineer's Organ Grinder will fully stun a player if it connects. These attacks can stun an ÜberCharged opponent. ÜberCharged enemies are often distracted or keeping their aim at a Sentry Gun, long enough to stab them with the taunt. Even without damage, it will waste precious seconds of ÜberCharge.

The Ghosts on Halloween maps can scare players, as well as the Horseless Headless Horsemann's taunt on Mann Manor. This counts towards achievements as a stun, and also causes the Flying Guillotine to inflict crits.

In Mann vs. Machine, Sappers can be placed on robots to disable them. But unlike the 'scared' effect, this is an ordinary full stun, and can even trigger Sandman voice lines if the Spy placing the Sapper is disguised as a Scout. Giant robots are immune to being stunned, but will still receive slowdown from Sappers and the Sandman, and crits from the Flying Guillotine, for the duration of the effect. Additionally, all regular-sized robots on the map Mannhattan will automatically be stunned for approximately 20 seconds whenever a point is captured.

The Natascha and the Force-A-Nature are also able to stun players for a short time. These stuns do not disable the use of weapons on stunned opponents, unlike other forms of stunning.

Measurements

Distance

Distance
(Hammer units / feet) 		Stun Time
(seconds)
256 / 16 1
512 / 32 2
768 / 48 3
1024 / 64 4
1280 / 80 5
1536 / 96 6
1792 / 112 7

Notes

  1. These tests were done with bots. Stun times may be subject to random variance.
  2. The closest the Sandman can stun is 256 Hammer units / 16 feet.
  3. The range the Sandman fully stuns an opponent is at 1792 Hammer units / 112 feet. A hit at this distance or further is required for the Moon Shot achievement.
  4. Critical hits add 2 seconds to the normal stun duration.
  5. Mini-Crits do not affect stun duration.
  6. Stun time is calculated at time of impact. Firing the ball and moving closer could result in decreased times.

Speed

When a player is stunned by the Sandman, their speed is decreased by 50%. The below table lists the exact values.

Class Stunned Speed Original Speed
Leaderboard class scout.png Scout 200v 400v
Leaderboard class soldier.png Soldier 120v 240v
Leaderboard class pyro.png Pyro 150v 300v
Leaderboard class demoman.png Demoman 140v 280v
Leaderboard class heavy.png Heavy 115v 230v
Leaderboard class engineer.png Engineer 150v 300v
Leaderboard class medic.png Medic 160v 320v
Leaderboard class sniper.png Sniper 150v 300v
Leaderboard class spy.png Spy 160v 320v
Unknownweapon.png Civilian 150v 300v

Demonstration

Related achievements

Leaderboard class scout.png Scout

Beanball
 Beanball
Stun a Scout with their own ball.


Brushback
 Brushback
Stun 50 enemies while they are capturing a point or pushing the cart.


Foul Territory
 Foul Territory
Cause an environmental death by stunning or slowing an enemy.
Moon Shot
 Moon Shot
Stun an enemy for the maximum possible duration by hitting them with a long-range ball.


Strike Zone
 Strike Zone
Kill or assist kill 50 enemies while they are stunned or slowed.


The Big Hurt
 The Big Hurt
Stun 2 Medics that are ready to deploy an ÜberCharge.

Leaderboard class soldier.png Soldier

The Longest Daze
 The Longest Daze
Kill 5 stunned or slowed players.


Update history

February 24, 2009 Patch (Scout Update)

  • Added Stun mechanic.

December 17, 2015 Patch (Tough Break Update)

  • Consecutive Airblasts will no longer prevent enemies from air-strafing until they touch the ground.

October 20, 2017 Patch (Jungle Inferno Update)

  • Changed attribute on the Sandman:
    • Long-range ball impacts no longer remove the victim's ability to fire their weapon (but the victim is still slowed).
  • Changed on the Airblast:
    • Airblast now causes target player to have reduced footing and air control for a short period.
      • No longer a flat stun.

Bugs

  • Being stunned while taunting allows a player to move at the reduced stun speed before the taunt's completion.
  • It is possible to perform melee attacks while stunned with any of the Heavy's melee weapons via alt-fire.
  • It is possible to perform melee attacks while stunned with the Disciplinary Action.

Trivia

  • Originally any stun effects inflicted would result in the current maximum stun pose but their duration would be subject to the range (as it is now, though the minimum ranges have been tweaked also). This was changed through many permutations of the Sandman in the name of balance.
  • While stunned it is possible to taunt, which can be used as a last ditch attack if you have a taunt-killing weapon equipped and your enemy is close enough.
  • Should a Sniper with an arrow drawn, or a Soldier charging a Cow Mangler 5000 or reloading a Beggar's Bazooka be stunned, their shot will be released as if normally fired and may injure or kill opponents.
  • It is possible to still keep reloading if the player reloads before getting stunned.
  • A Heavy can rev up his primary weapons while stunned.

Class Gallery

See also

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